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This Pride month, we hear the story of one queer person’s journey to the Bay, in their own words.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC2647739090&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong> I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra, and welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. For a long time, Quin Petty thought of the Bay area as this mythical place. The only real representation they’d actually seen of San Francisco specifically was in the TV show Charmed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I was obsessed with Charmed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>It was so unattainable. Almost. It just felt like, I don’t know, like. Like I said, like a fairyland where I wasn’t allowed to be. And if I could only make it there that, like, I don’t know, everything would be perfect, I guess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Beyond Charmed, there was just one thing they knew about the Bay. It was where they could find other queer people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And that I was someone who identified that way. And I didn’t know much about community before that. So, like, the concept of community was so foreign to me that I was like, I just know that this is where my people are, and I need to be there as much as possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>This month, San Francisco joined Sacramento and West Hollywood in becoming a sanctuary city for transgender people. But even before San Francisco was officially a sanctuary city, it has always been a beacon for queer folks like Quin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>My connection to the Bay area is very much a part of my connection with like myself and like my body.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>This Pride Month, we’re sharing this story of one trans person’s journey to the bay in their own words. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>My name is Quin Petty. I was raised in what is sometimes colloquially known as the Bible Belt of Southern California. Very Mormon forward town, in a place called Marietta, California. My mom is Mexican and my dad is half Japanese and half white. Growing up, I always knew that I was different and I always kind of felt. Closer to femininity than I did to boy things, I guess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>I feel like it’s a very typical queer experience to like, know yourself, telling yourself without actually telling on yourself for a while until you reach pre-K kindergarten. But I think more than anything, my attraction to boys was definitely more so. The thing that led me to realizing I was different, especially because I knew that boys liked girls and like I wanted boys to like me. I do very specifically remember when I was younger constantly asking like, why was I born a boy? Like, why can’t I be a girl? It just wasn’t clicking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>I didn’t understand why that option wasn’t available to me. So yeah, I came out around sophomore year of high school. It was the first day of P.E., and I had it with one of my best friends, and there was like some new girl was like, approaching me and like, we were talking and blah, blah, blah. I specifically remember her, like asking. She was like, are you okay? I just remember my best friend fully ready to defend me. She took in the breath to say no. And I was like, yeah. I just remember the look of shock on her face like, bitch, I’ve been lying for you this whole time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>Everyone was already blaming me for thinking that I was gay and I was like, well, if I am gay, then they have to find something else to bully me for. Like, they can’t just keep going with us forever. If there ever was a perfect time to come out, I think I got a good time. I got a good time slot. 2008 was around the time, like Lady Gaga was coming out. Katy Perry was out here kissing girls. There was just so much culturally going on. Prop A was a big issue. Don’t ask, Don’t Tell was still being talked about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>There were things happening not only within culture, but within government and within everybody’s TVs at home. It wasn’t necessarily this bad thing anymore. And if anything, I think I saw that and I realized that like, hey, here’s this thing that I’ve had in me for forever, and people are finally starting to appreciate it, kind of see it as this thing that makes you special and makes you different. And it’s crazy too, because throughout high school, I was still kind of getting bullied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>Like people are still talking behind my back, but I didn’t care. Another big thing that was happening around this time was like social media. I mean, yeah, I’d had a Myspace for a minute. I think I just made my Facebook. I actually happened to stumble upon this boy’s profile who, like, looked really cool. His all his photos were amazing and like, I believe he had a Lady Gaga song on his profile. And we just started talking like every single day. And they were working towards going to the Academy of Art in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>So yeah, that’s how I met my best friend Alejo. There was an opportunity that came up where I was able to, like, go visit Alejo, and I think my parents were down for it. But something happened and I ended up getting grounded. And they’re like, you’re not going to San Francisco anymore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I was like, I know you guys didn’t cancel the stick. I had access to their email. And so I went through their email and I found the ticket, printed it out. And like I specifically remember in the dead of night, slowly opening the front door, and my mom comes out and like her little nightgown and basically catches me running away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I just remember her repeating in her little sleepy haze, she was like, you’re going to come back for me? And I was like, yeah, there’s a return flight. Like, I’m not going to just stay there. I spent a good like my first two weeks in San Francisco. Alejo was this, like, broke art school student living in what used to be a utility closet in this, like, poorly kept apartment complex right off of Octavian. They had one single loft bed, but I was having the time of my life. I didn’t care. We had a hot plate, we had ramen, we had hot dogs and a dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>I stole a couple meals from that Safeway right there off of Market Street. Went to Dolores for the first time. It felt like one of those things where it’s like, I shouldn’t be here. This isn’t a place I was meant to be, but here I am. Me as a gay person from this horrible little town. Like, I wasn’t meant to make it out, but I did. I ended up moving up to the Bay about two years, 2 or 3 years after I first visited the morning of like, I think it was like four in the morning. I decided to start this voyage, with my parents permission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>This time I ended up moving in with Alejo again for about like four months or so. We were living in Concord. And I was working at Club Monaco at the Westfield in San Francisco. And, yeah. After like 4 or 6 months, maybe I was able to save up enough money to get an apartment. Well, a room in San Francisco for $400. And that was it. That’s all I needed. I lived in what I like to refer to as the outer, outer, outer mission. It’s past Excelsior, but like literally one block away from Daily City. I guess you could call it a duplex.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>You could also call it a Chinese family living in their basement and letting four crust punks and me live above them. When I moved up here for the first time, and especially when I moved to San Francisco, it felt like everything about my like, being just felt like it was at a time when I made it, you know, I was just like, yes, I was just a sales associate, but I don’t know, I felt like I was on Gossip Girl. So when I first came out, I was very much a gay boy. I mean, I looked the part. I was very Twinkie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>In those days, I would say that I was I was happy enough at the time. I started to have more of a concrete idea of like. Where I was headed gender wise. If you ask any trans person who has taken time to transition and has like had multiple coming out, I think we all have this little conversation with ourself, this little mini check in where we’re like, girl, are you are you trans lady? Like, are you sure? And then there’s always that talk back where you’re like, no, there’s no way. Why would you want to make your life harder?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>I ended up moving back home for about a year, actually. So like living back home, especially living in a place where you sort of have to rehash a lot of your trauma, a lot of it gets brought back up again. And I think in having that stuff being brought back up, I realized that I couldn’t necessarily have these important conversations with myself and go through these healing processes in the same place that I had endured so much trauma as well. So when I finally ended up moving back to the Bay area, I decided to go into food service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>There was a coworker there. Shout out to Justine! We love Justine. She asked the most simple question. This was the first time we were meeting and she was like, oh, what are your pronouns, by the way, that it was the first time anyone had ever asked me that question. And I paused for like a good 15 seconds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I literally remember responding with like, I’ll get back to you. Months after that, like whole situation where Justine had asked me that question. I don’t know if I ever gave them an answer, but I was still very much in flux with that question when the pandemic started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>Because my job was affected by the pandemic. I was getting checks at that time. 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Me and my parents sort of had this like this break.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>We didn’t talk for like a good, I want to say to 2 or 3 years. Basically around the time of the George Floyd protests. I was talking on the phone with my mom. We were sort of talking about it, and she sort of said something along the lines of like, well, you know, if like, those people just followed the way of Jehovah. And I was like, mom, it led me to this question that I asked her where I was, like, as it stands, like I’m the way that I am when you die and when I die and like, you’re in Paradise, like, and I’m not there, like, are you going to be okay with that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>She paused a little, but she was also like, well, I mean, yeah, I’m going to miss you. But. And like, that was kind of all it took. I just remember clicking the phone off. I didn’t talk to her for like 2 or 3 years after that. Currently I identify as. Ultimately non-binary, ultimately, ultimately trans like. I really prefer using that umbrella. Mostly to give myself room to grow. I suppose I do often think that like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I know this is there’s a lot of discourse about this, within the community of like the validity of taking on certain monikers and like. Like it’s okay, but like, I don’t, I don’t know, I just I still think that there are. Other trans women who have gone through so much more than I have to be able, would like to be able to to take on that title. Feels like I am. I’m taking on so much more than just that. I’ve pretty much fully socially transitioned like my parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>No, they don’t necessarily talk about it, but they know. I’ve also sort of been a part of this school of thought that’s like your transness is also not invalid. 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This Pride month, we hear the story of one queer person’s journey to the Bay, in their own words.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC2647739090&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong> I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra, and welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. For a long time, Quin Petty thought of the Bay area as this mythical place. The only real representation they’d actually seen of San Francisco specifically was in the TV show Charmed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I was obsessed with Charmed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>It was so unattainable. Almost. It just felt like, I don’t know, like. Like I said, like a fairyland where I wasn’t allowed to be. And if I could only make it there that, like, I don’t know, everything would be perfect, I guess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Beyond Charmed, there was just one thing they knew about the Bay. It was where they could find other queer people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And that I was someone who identified that way. And I didn’t know much about community before that. So, like, the concept of community was so foreign to me that I was like, I just know that this is where my people are, and I need to be there as much as possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>This month, San Francisco joined Sacramento and West Hollywood in becoming a sanctuary city for transgender people. But even before San Francisco was officially a sanctuary city, it has always been a beacon for queer folks like Quin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>My connection to the Bay area is very much a part of my connection with like myself and like my body.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>This Pride Month, we’re sharing this story of one trans person’s journey to the bay in their own words. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>My name is Quin Petty. I was raised in what is sometimes colloquially known as the Bible Belt of Southern California. Very Mormon forward town, in a place called Marietta, California. My mom is Mexican and my dad is half Japanese and half white. Growing up, I always knew that I was different and I always kind of felt. Closer to femininity than I did to boy things, I guess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>I feel like it’s a very typical queer experience to like, know yourself, telling yourself without actually telling on yourself for a while until you reach pre-K kindergarten. But I think more than anything, my attraction to boys was definitely more so. The thing that led me to realizing I was different, especially because I knew that boys liked girls and like I wanted boys to like me. I do very specifically remember when I was younger constantly asking like, why was I born a boy? Like, why can’t I be a girl? It just wasn’t clicking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>I didn’t understand why that option wasn’t available to me. So yeah, I came out around sophomore year of high school. It was the first day of P.E., and I had it with one of my best friends, and there was like some new girl was like, approaching me and like, we were talking and blah, blah, blah. I specifically remember her, like asking. She was like, are you okay? I just remember my best friend fully ready to defend me. She took in the breath to say no. And I was like, yeah. I just remember the look of shock on her face like, bitch, I’ve been lying for you this whole time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>Everyone was already blaming me for thinking that I was gay and I was like, well, if I am gay, then they have to find something else to bully me for. Like, they can’t just keep going with us forever. If there ever was a perfect time to come out, I think I got a good time. I got a good time slot. 2008 was around the time, like Lady Gaga was coming out. Katy Perry was out here kissing girls. There was just so much culturally going on. Prop A was a big issue. Don’t ask, Don’t Tell was still being talked about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>There were things happening not only within culture, but within government and within everybody’s TVs at home. It wasn’t necessarily this bad thing anymore. And if anything, I think I saw that and I realized that like, hey, here’s this thing that I’ve had in me for forever, and people are finally starting to appreciate it, kind of see it as this thing that makes you special and makes you different. And it’s crazy too, because throughout high school, I was still kind of getting bullied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>Like people are still talking behind my back, but I didn’t care. Another big thing that was happening around this time was like social media. I mean, yeah, I’d had a Myspace for a minute. I think I just made my Facebook. I actually happened to stumble upon this boy’s profile who, like, looked really cool. His all his photos were amazing and like, I believe he had a Lady Gaga song on his profile. And we just started talking like every single day. And they were working towards going to the Academy of Art in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>So yeah, that’s how I met my best friend Alejo. There was an opportunity that came up where I was able to, like, go visit Alejo, and I think my parents were down for it. But something happened and I ended up getting grounded. And they’re like, you’re not going to San Francisco anymore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I was like, I know you guys didn’t cancel the stick. I had access to their email. And so I went through their email and I found the ticket, printed it out. And like I specifically remember in the dead of night, slowly opening the front door, and my mom comes out and like her little nightgown and basically catches me running away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I just remember her repeating in her little sleepy haze, she was like, you’re going to come back for me? And I was like, yeah, there’s a return flight. Like, I’m not going to just stay there. I spent a good like my first two weeks in San Francisco. Alejo was this, like, broke art school student living in what used to be a utility closet in this, like, poorly kept apartment complex right off of Octavian. They had one single loft bed, but I was having the time of my life. I didn’t care. We had a hot plate, we had ramen, we had hot dogs and a dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>I stole a couple meals from that Safeway right there off of Market Street. Went to Dolores for the first time. It felt like one of those things where it’s like, I shouldn’t be here. This isn’t a place I was meant to be, but here I am. Me as a gay person from this horrible little town. Like, I wasn’t meant to make it out, but I did. I ended up moving up to the Bay about two years, 2 or 3 years after I first visited the morning of like, I think it was like four in the morning. I decided to start this voyage, with my parents permission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>This time I ended up moving in with Alejo again for about like four months or so. We were living in Concord. And I was working at Club Monaco at the Westfield in San Francisco. And, yeah. After like 4 or 6 months, maybe I was able to save up enough money to get an apartment. Well, a room in San Francisco for $400. And that was it. That’s all I needed. I lived in what I like to refer to as the outer, outer, outer mission. It’s past Excelsior, but like literally one block away from Daily City. I guess you could call it a duplex.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>You could also call it a Chinese family living in their basement and letting four crust punks and me live above them. When I moved up here for the first time, and especially when I moved to San Francisco, it felt like everything about my like, being just felt like it was at a time when I made it, you know, I was just like, yes, I was just a sales associate, but I don’t know, I felt like I was on Gossip Girl. So when I first came out, I was very much a gay boy. I mean, I looked the part. I was very Twinkie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>In those days, I would say that I was I was happy enough at the time. I started to have more of a concrete idea of like. Where I was headed gender wise. If you ask any trans person who has taken time to transition and has like had multiple coming out, I think we all have this little conversation with ourself, this little mini check in where we’re like, girl, are you are you trans lady? Like, are you sure? And then there’s always that talk back where you’re like, no, there’s no way. Why would you want to make your life harder?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>I ended up moving back home for about a year, actually. So like living back home, especially living in a place where you sort of have to rehash a lot of your trauma, a lot of it gets brought back up again. And I think in having that stuff being brought back up, I realized that I couldn’t necessarily have these important conversations with myself and go through these healing processes in the same place that I had endured so much trauma as well. So when I finally ended up moving back to the Bay area, I decided to go into food service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>There was a coworker there. Shout out to Justine! We love Justine. She asked the most simple question. This was the first time we were meeting and she was like, oh, what are your pronouns, by the way, that it was the first time anyone had ever asked me that question. And I paused for like a good 15 seconds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I literally remember responding with like, I’ll get back to you. Months after that, like whole situation where Justine had asked me that question. I don’t know if I ever gave them an answer, but I was still very much in flux with that question when the pandemic started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>Because my job was affected by the pandemic. I was getting checks at that time. So I literally it was just like, it’s one of those things where you’re like, well, if all of your things are taken care of, like what? What are you what do you what do you have to to to give to society? I was able to, like, really get into makeup during the pandemic. My friends definitely were the most affirming. I found a really good base up here, obviously, and I had a very good community of online friends also that were super supportive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>I debuted my new name on Facebook for like All To See, which I don’t know, I sort of assumed was a very like definitive way to do that. I’ve had the conversation with like a couple family members, a few like really accepting and open aunts. I haven’t really yeah, I haven’t really had that conversation with my family, if I’m being honest. They still either just refer to me as Mehul or by my dad name, which we’re working on it. Me and my parents sort of had this like this break.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>We didn’t talk for like a good, I want to say to 2 or 3 years. Basically around the time of the George Floyd protests. I was talking on the phone with my mom. We were sort of talking about it, and she sort of said something along the lines of like, well, you know, if like, those people just followed the way of Jehovah. And I was like, mom, it led me to this question that I asked her where I was, like, as it stands, like I’m the way that I am when you die and when I die and like, you’re in Paradise, like, and I’m not there, like, are you going to be okay with that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>She paused a little, but she was also like, well, I mean, yeah, I’m going to miss you. But. And like, that was kind of all it took. I just remember clicking the phone off. I didn’t talk to her for like 2 or 3 years after that. Currently I identify as. Ultimately non-binary, ultimately, ultimately trans like. I really prefer using that umbrella. Mostly to give myself room to grow. I suppose I do often think that like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>And I know this is there’s a lot of discourse about this, within the community of like the validity of taking on certain monikers and like. Like it’s okay, but like, I don’t, I don’t know, I just I still think that there are. Other trans women who have gone through so much more than I have to be able, would like to be able to to take on that title. Feels like I am. I’m taking on so much more than just that. I’ve pretty much fully socially transitioned like my parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>No, they don’t necessarily talk about it, but they know. I’ve also sort of been a part of this school of thought that’s like your transness is also not invalid. If you don’t decide to medically transition like, I’m I’m of two minds of it because like, I would love to have facial feminization surgery, but like it also doesn’t define my transness. Am I interested in medical transition? The short answer is yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>It’s just one of those things that like, I guess, much like San Francisco was when I first moved here. And when I first thought about coming up here, it was it’s like that exists in such an abstract, like ideal version of what I want that like, it feels so unattainable, but who knows? I think a lot of me being up here, especially during the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Quin Petty: \u003c/strong>Especially during a time where we as a community really had to band together, not just as queer people, but as like people that are for the rights of all individuals and like being up here for like the George Floyd protests and like the Black Lives Matter movement, like, I don’t think I could have been anywhere else and felt more affirmed in my humanity in general, not just my transness. It’s really hard to imagine living anywhere else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Quin Petty in conversation with our intern, Ellie Prickett-Morgan. This episode was pitched and cut by Ellie Prickett-Morgan. It was also produced by Adhiti Bandlamudi, who scored this episode.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Our senior editor is Alan Montecillo. Additional production support from Me. The Bay is a production of listener supported KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra, thanks so much for listening. 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Saldaña has been performing in the Central Valley since the 1960s and still occasionally graces the stage as El Daña — the oldest drag king in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991269\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991269\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing dark blue clothing walks in a field.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña strolls through a field in Fresno on April 16, 2024. For Saldaña, the orchards were not only a place of hard work but of refuge, where she would hang out with her queer friends. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On a Saturday night earlier this year, she donned all black except for a rhinestone-studded belt as part of her transformation into the chest-baring crooner Tom Jones. She was about to perform his version of “Kiss” at the Red Lantern bar in Fresno and played the song on repeat in preparation, mouthing every word.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It had to be perfect — after all these years, she’s still one of the few drag kings in the lineup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For as old as I am to do this, I feel I have it in me,” she said. “And if I feel that I still have it in me, why should I stop?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991278\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991278\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2.jpg\" alt=\"A white costume adorned in rhinestones.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">One of Elsie Saldaña’s drag performance outfits, adorned in rhinestones from top to bottom, rests on her bed in her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At 79 years old, she admits she can’t move like she used to. Yet she’s always ready for the next performance opportunity. Her rhinestone and sequin outfits are neatly stacked in her closet and Boot Barn boxes keep her Stetson cowboy hats pristine. She practices lip-synching in the car on her way to work as a house cleaner, driving past the few remaining orchards where she picked figs in her youth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991271\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991271\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing dark clothing walks toward a screen door while putting on a glove.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña, 79, at a client’s home that she regularly cleans for income in Fresno on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Like many in the Fresno area, Saldaña grew up in a family of Mexican farmworkers. When she’d come home after long hours in the fields, she’d turn on the radio and lip-synch to Frank Sinatra or Vic Damone, pretending her hairbrush was a microphone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first time she performed for someone other than her reflection in the mirror was in 1965 at the Red Robin, a gay bar in town. The song was Ritchie Valens’ “La Bamba.” Her knees were shaking, but the claps and cheers from the audience made her feel like a star. She was hooked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991272\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991272\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing dark clothing and gloves holds a broom in a bathroom.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña mops the bathroom of a client’s home in Fresno on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This launched a side career in drag where, for a long time, she was the only “male impersonator” in the area. (The term she preferred then.) In the beginning, Saldaña would stuff her male clothes in a paper bag to sneak past her mother, who she knew wouldn’t approve of drag, nor her being a lesbian.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’d perform in big stage productions or solo shows at the few LGBTQ-friendly bars such as Girl of the Golden West, The Palace and Red Lantern — the only bar remaining.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991273\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991273\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing dark clothing and blue jeans uses a vacuum in a home.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña vacuums the living room of a client’s home in Fresno on April 16, 2024. The job requires moving furniture, including flipping over the recliner chairs to vacuum underneath them. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Saldaña still gets nervous before a performance. On the night of her recent show, her coif was stiff with hairspray, her shirt sharply ironed, her bowtie snug. Tom Jones was her specialty. When she pushed the swinging door into the Red Lantern, where she performed “It’s Not Unusual” over four decades ago, it was like stepping into the past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The black-and-white photos of shirtless cowboys on its walls are new, but the dance floor is the same, save for a glittering disco ball — a beacon of sorts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This area has a very rich and long history of drag and performance, mostly because of the bar network and Imperial Court,” said Kat Fobear, professor of Women, Gender and Sexuality Studies at Fresno State. “But it is in the face of historically and currently very conservative culture.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://internationalcourtsystem.org/\">Imperial Court \u003c/a>is one of the oldest LGBTQ organizations in the country and started in 1965 in the Bay Area — a time when homosexuality was considered a mental disorder and laws prohibited cross-dressing. The court was a way to foster pride and expanded to numerous cities, including Fresno, where it thrives to this day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Members compete for royal titles and host fundraising drag balls. In 1980, Saldaña co-founded the Sequoia Empire Court in Visalia, back then a small town. She assumed the emperor’s title three times, raising thousands of dollars for AIDS and other charities. Her mother, eventually accepting who she was, would attend the balls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Visalia at that time really had a closeted community,” Saldaña said. “And once they found out about the court … they got brave.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991281\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991281\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person looks down at vintage pictures on the floor of people.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña looks at old family photos of her and her son Mark at her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>During the ’80s and ’90s, Saldaña kept busy performing throughout California, working a day job in manufacturing, and being a mother to a son named Mark, who she raised with her partner at the time. Her son was her biggest fan — often giving her notes, always applauding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991277\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991277\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing a red shirt holds a black and white image of person holding a guitar.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña holds a headshot of herself from 1983 at her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Drag couldn’t pay the bills, however. She had to clock in more hours to survive, and, she said, she was a king in a world dominated by queens. RuPaul’s \u003cem>Drag Race\u003c/em> television show eventually launched drag queens to mainstream popularity but notably absent were kings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of people ask me, ‘How come drag kings aren’t known?’” said Mo Fischer, co-founder of Drag King History. “My answer is PMS: patriarchy, misogyny, sexism.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Saldaña aged, she started to feel like nobody wanted to see her on stage anyway. New kings came onto the scene — including nonbinary and trans performers — whose gender-bending, inventive approaches she didn’t always understand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991274\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991274\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2.jpg\" alt='A California license plate that reads \"EL DANA\" with cleaning products in the trunk of a vehicle.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">After cleaning a client’s home, Elsie Saldaña closes the trunk of her car with a license plate that reads, ‘El Daña,’ her drag king stage name, in Fresno on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Then, her son Mark died suddenly when he was 29 years old. Saldaña left Fresno and took a break from drag for a decade. It was only when she returned in 2017 and met Fobear, who was working on an \u003ca href=\"https://qistory.org/\">oral history project of LGBTQ elders\u003c/a> that she began to see herself as Fobear saw her: a pioneer in drag long before drag was mainstream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991276\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1334px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991276\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1.jpg\" alt=\"A closeup of a person wearing a cowboy hat and red shirt.\" width=\"1334\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1.jpg 1334w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1-800x1199.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1-1020x1529.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1-160x240.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1-1025x1536.jpg 1025w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1334px) 100vw, 1334px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña, 79, on April 16, 2024, in her home in Clovis, California, wearing a white Stetson hat. She performed Glen Campbell’s ‘Rhinestone Cowboy’ at ‘Fresno Queer West’ last year, a drag show she organized to raise money for scholarships at Fresno State. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>And, Saldaña realized she still had dreams. Like seeing her name on the marquee at Fresno State’s massive arena. “My heart’s broken in a thousand pieces,” she said. “The only thing that saves me is when I entertain.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991275\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991275\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1.jpg\" alt=\"A wall with vintage images of people and events with a vest on a coat hanger filled with buttons.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña’s bedroom wall on April 16, 2024, in Clovis is adorned with awards, old photos, and memorabilia from her years of performing drag. This year, she was a recipient of a Harvey Milk Award from Fresno City Council for being a trailblazing entertainer. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the dressing room, before she stepped on stage at the Red Lantern, Saldaña said a prayer in hopes the performance would go well. She thought about her son Mark, whose encouragement always gave her strength.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A young drag king with a black cowboy hat who performed before her ran back into the dressing room when their song ended, hands still shaking. Saldaña assured them: “You did good. My first time, I was scared too.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991279\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1334px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991279\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1.jpg\" alt=\"A closeup of a hand in a rhinestone cowboy suit.\" width=\"1334\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1.jpg 1334w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1-800x1199.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1-1020x1529.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1-160x240.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1-1025x1536.jpg 1025w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1334px) 100vw, 1334px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña in her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024, wearing one of her favorite drag outfits, a rhinestone cowboy suit. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The emcee introduced “El Dañaaaaaa!” and she stepped on stage to a small but supportive audience, sparkling red curtains behind her. The music started low, and she gestured to turn it up. She was a bit thrown but swiveled her hips to the sultry beats. For those few minutes, everything that had been bothering her disappeared. She also remembered how good it felt to make others forget, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991283\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991283\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1.jpg\" alt=\"A hand touches an urn sitting on a drawer with pictures and boxes.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña touches her son’s urn at her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. Saldaña keeps his ashes close and talks to him regularly. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Roaring applause at the end confirmed for Saldaña what she’d always known: The stage is where she belongs. She basked in hugs and high fives and was already thinking about adding new choreography, improving her performance so it could be better. There’s always next time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991280\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991280\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing a white rhinestone cowboy costume.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña at her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Celeste Hamilton Dennis originally reported and produced this story in the audio program at UC Berkeley’s Graduate School of Journalism. Shereen Marisol Meraji was her professor and lead editor.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The story also had support from UC Berkeley’s Investigative Reporting Program, where Florence Middleton is a photographer. The SCAN Foundation provided funding.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"This pride month, we will meet Elsie Saldaña, known as El Daña, the oldest drag king still performing in the United States. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1720216783,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":30,"wordCount":1724},"headData":{"title":"The Enduring Reign of El Daña, Drag King of the Central Valley | KQED","description":"This pride month, we will meet Elsie Saldaña, known as El Daña, the oldest drag king still performing in the United States. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"The Enduring Reign of El Daña, Drag King of the Central Valley","datePublished":"2024-06-21T04:00:27-07:00","dateModified":"2024-07-05T14:59:43-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"audioUrl":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/chrt.fm/track/G6C7C3/traffic.megaphone.fm/KQINC2238764589.mp3?updated=1718729990","sticky":false,"nprByline":"Celeste Hamilton Dennis ","nprStoryId":"kqed-11991163","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11991163/the-enduring-reign-of-el-dana-drag-king-of-the-central-valley","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>For Elsie Saldaña, a flawless lip sync is the hallmark of serious artistry in drag.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She would know. Saldaña has been performing in the Central Valley since the 1960s and still occasionally graces the stage as El Daña — the oldest drag king in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991269\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991269\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing dark blue clothing walks in a field.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/05_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00072-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña strolls through a field in Fresno on April 16, 2024. For Saldaña, the orchards were not only a place of hard work but of refuge, where she would hang out with her queer friends. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On a Saturday night earlier this year, she donned all black except for a rhinestone-studded belt as part of her transformation into the chest-baring crooner Tom Jones. She was about to perform his version of “Kiss” at the Red Lantern bar in Fresno and played the song on repeat in preparation, mouthing every word.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It had to be perfect — after all these years, she’s still one of the few drag kings in the lineup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For as old as I am to do this, I feel I have it in me,” she said. “And if I feel that I still have it in me, why should I stop?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991278\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991278\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2.jpg\" alt=\"A white costume adorned in rhinestones.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/33_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00487-2-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">One of Elsie Saldaña’s drag performance outfits, adorned in rhinestones from top to bottom, rests on her bed in her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At 79 years old, she admits she can’t move like she used to. Yet she’s always ready for the next performance opportunity. Her rhinestone and sequin outfits are neatly stacked in her closet and Boot Barn boxes keep her Stetson cowboy hats pristine. She practices lip-synching in the car on her way to work as a house cleaner, driving past the few remaining orchards where she picked figs in her youth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991271\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991271\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing dark clothing walks toward a screen door while putting on a glove.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/09_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00124-2-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña, 79, at a client’s home that she regularly cleans for income in Fresno on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Like many in the Fresno area, Saldaña grew up in a family of Mexican farmworkers. When she’d come home after long hours in the fields, she’d turn on the radio and lip-synch to Frank Sinatra or Vic Damone, pretending her hairbrush was a microphone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first time she performed for someone other than her reflection in the mirror was in 1965 at the Red Robin, a gay bar in town. The song was Ritchie Valens’ “La Bamba.” Her knees were shaking, but the claps and cheers from the audience made her feel like a star. She was hooked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991272\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991272\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing dark clothing and gloves holds a broom in a bathroom.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/12_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00144-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña mops the bathroom of a client’s home in Fresno on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This launched a side career in drag where, for a long time, she was the only “male impersonator” in the area. (The term she preferred then.) In the beginning, Saldaña would stuff her male clothes in a paper bag to sneak past her mother, who she knew wouldn’t approve of drag, nor her being a lesbian.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’d perform in big stage productions or solo shows at the few LGBTQ-friendly bars such as Girl of the Golden West, The Palace and Red Lantern — the only bar remaining.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991273\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991273\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing dark clothing and blue jeans uses a vacuum in a home.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/16_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00254-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña vacuums the living room of a client’s home in Fresno on April 16, 2024. The job requires moving furniture, including flipping over the recliner chairs to vacuum underneath them. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Saldaña still gets nervous before a performance. On the night of her recent show, her coif was stiff with hairspray, her shirt sharply ironed, her bowtie snug. Tom Jones was her specialty. When she pushed the swinging door into the Red Lantern, where she performed “It’s Not Unusual” over four decades ago, it was like stepping into the past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The black-and-white photos of shirtless cowboys on its walls are new, but the dance floor is the same, save for a glittering disco ball — a beacon of sorts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This area has a very rich and long history of drag and performance, mostly because of the bar network and Imperial Court,” said Kat Fobear, professor of Women, Gender and Sexuality Studies at Fresno State. “But it is in the face of historically and currently very conservative culture.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://internationalcourtsystem.org/\">Imperial Court \u003c/a>is one of the oldest LGBTQ organizations in the country and started in 1965 in the Bay Area — a time when homosexuality was considered a mental disorder and laws prohibited cross-dressing. The court was a way to foster pride and expanded to numerous cities, including Fresno, where it thrives to this day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Members compete for royal titles and host fundraising drag balls. In 1980, Saldaña co-founded the Sequoia Empire Court in Visalia, back then a small town. She assumed the emperor’s title three times, raising thousands of dollars for AIDS and other charities. Her mother, eventually accepting who she was, would attend the balls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Visalia at that time really had a closeted community,” Saldaña said. “And once they found out about the court … they got brave.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991281\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991281\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person looks down at vintage pictures on the floor of people.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/45_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00608-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña looks at old family photos of her and her son Mark at her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>During the ’80s and ’90s, Saldaña kept busy performing throughout California, working a day job in manufacturing, and being a mother to a son named Mark, who she raised with her partner at the time. Her son was her biggest fan — often giving her notes, always applauding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991277\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991277\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing a red shirt holds a black and white image of person holding a guitar.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/31_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00420-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña holds a headshot of herself from 1983 at her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Drag couldn’t pay the bills, however. She had to clock in more hours to survive, and, she said, she was a king in a world dominated by queens. RuPaul’s \u003cem>Drag Race\u003c/em> television show eventually launched drag queens to mainstream popularity but notably absent were kings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of people ask me, ‘How come drag kings aren’t known?’” said Mo Fischer, co-founder of Drag King History. “My answer is PMS: patriarchy, misogyny, sexism.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Saldaña aged, she started to feel like nobody wanted to see her on stage anyway. New kings came onto the scene — including nonbinary and trans performers — whose gender-bending, inventive approaches she didn’t always understand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991274\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991274\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2.jpg\" alt='A California license plate that reads \"EL DANA\" with cleaning products in the trunk of a vehicle.' width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/20_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00321-2-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">After cleaning a client’s home, Elsie Saldaña closes the trunk of her car with a license plate that reads, ‘El Daña,’ her drag king stage name, in Fresno on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Then, her son Mark died suddenly when he was 29 years old. Saldaña left Fresno and took a break from drag for a decade. It was only when she returned in 2017 and met Fobear, who was working on an \u003ca href=\"https://qistory.org/\">oral history project of LGBTQ elders\u003c/a> that she began to see herself as Fobear saw her: a pioneer in drag long before drag was mainstream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991276\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1334px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991276\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1.jpg\" alt=\"A closeup of a person wearing a cowboy hat and red shirt.\" width=\"1334\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1.jpg 1334w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1-800x1199.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1-1020x1529.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1-160x240.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/25_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00369-1-1025x1536.jpg 1025w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1334px) 100vw, 1334px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña, 79, on April 16, 2024, in her home in Clovis, California, wearing a white Stetson hat. She performed Glen Campbell’s ‘Rhinestone Cowboy’ at ‘Fresno Queer West’ last year, a drag show she organized to raise money for scholarships at Fresno State. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>And, Saldaña realized she still had dreams. Like seeing her name on the marquee at Fresno State’s massive arena. “My heart’s broken in a thousand pieces,” she said. “The only thing that saves me is when I entertain.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991275\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991275\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1.jpg\" alt=\"A wall with vintage images of people and events with a vest on a coat hanger filled with buttons.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/24_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00436-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña’s bedroom wall on April 16, 2024, in Clovis is adorned with awards, old photos, and memorabilia from her years of performing drag. This year, she was a recipient of a Harvey Milk Award from Fresno City Council for being a trailblazing entertainer. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the dressing room, before she stepped on stage at the Red Lantern, Saldaña said a prayer in hopes the performance would go well. She thought about her son Mark, whose encouragement always gave her strength.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A young drag king with a black cowboy hat who performed before her ran back into the dressing room when their song ended, hands still shaking. Saldaña assured them: “You did good. My first time, I was scared too.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991279\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1334px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991279\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1.jpg\" alt=\"A closeup of a hand in a rhinestone cowboy suit.\" width=\"1334\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1.jpg 1334w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1-800x1199.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1-1020x1529.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1-160x240.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/42_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00570-1-1025x1536.jpg 1025w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1334px) 100vw, 1334px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña in her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024, wearing one of her favorite drag outfits, a rhinestone cowboy suit. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The emcee introduced “El Dañaaaaaa!” and she stepped on stage to a small but supportive audience, sparkling red curtains behind her. The music started low, and she gestured to turn it up. She was a bit thrown but swiveled her hips to the sultry beats. For those few minutes, everything that had been bothering her disappeared. She also remembered how good it felt to make others forget, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991283\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991283\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1.jpg\" alt=\"A hand touches an urn sitting on a drawer with pictures and boxes.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/47_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00638-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña touches her son’s urn at her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. Saldaña keeps his ashes close and talks to him regularly. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Roaring applause at the end confirmed for Saldaña what she’d always known: The stage is where she belongs. She basked in hugs and high fives and was already thinking about adding new choreography, improving her performance so it could be better. There’s always next time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11991280\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11991280\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1.jpg\" alt=\"A person wearing a white rhinestone cowboy costume.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/43_2024.04.16_DragKingDana_00595-1-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elsie Saldaña at her home in Clovis on April 16, 2024. \u003ccite>(Florence Middleton)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Celeste Hamilton Dennis originally reported and produced this story in the audio program at UC Berkeley’s Graduate School of Journalism. Shereen Marisol Meraji was her professor and lead editor.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The story also had support from UC Berkeley’s Investigative Reporting Program, where Florence Middleton is a photographer. The SCAN Foundation provided funding.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11991163/the-enduring-reign-of-el-dana-drag-king-of-the-central-valley","authors":["byline_news_11991163"],"programs":["news_72","news_26731"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_32616","news_27626","news_37","news_3123","news_34208","news_30162"],"featImg":"news_11991270","label":"news_26731"},"news_11953821":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11953821","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11953821","score":null,"sort":[1687550668000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-banko-browns-queer-trans-community-says-they-need-for-safety-joy-in-sf","title":"What Banko Brown's Queer, Trans Community Says They Need for Safety, Joy in SF","publishDate":1687550668,"format":"standard","headTitle":"What Banko Brown’s Queer, Trans Community Says They Need for Safety, Joy in SF | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Celebration and sorrow often intermix.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s with that in mind that Friday, the San Francisco Trans March is commemorating 20 years of trans beauty and resilience. At 6 p.m., marchers will make their way from Dolores Park, down Market Street, to Turk and Taylor streets — the Tenderloin site of the 1966 Compton’s Cafeteria riot, when trans San Franciscans pushed back against police discrimination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the celebration also comes just two months after the death of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11950796/banko-brown-family-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-walgreens-security-company\">Banko Brown\u003c/a>, a Black transgender man who was shot and killed by Walgreens security guard Michael Earl-Wayne Anthony in late April, after allegedly shoplifting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While locally \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11949558/district-attorney-releases-video-of-banko-brown-shooting-at-walgreens-wont-files-charges-against-security-gaurd\">the investigation into Brown’s killing has been dropped by District Attorney Brooke Jenkins\u003c/a>, Brown’s death arrives at a time of unprecedented legal attacks on trans lives throughout the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights\">The ACLU is tracking 491 anti-LGBTQ+ bills in the U.S.\u003c/a> Those laws target many facets of trans people’s lives, from playing sports to using bathrooms, weakening nondiscrimination laws and banning medically necessary health care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The situation isn’t much better close to home. In San Francisco, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ourtranshomesf.org/about\">transgender people are 18 times more likely to be unhoused than cisgender folks\u003c/a>, according to Our Trans Home SF. One out of two trans people have been unhoused, and 70% of them report being harassed when staying in homeless shelters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown had a similar experience, spending years struggling to find stable housing and at times being unhoused, including in the days leading up to his death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='More Stories on Banko Brown' tag='banko-brown']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s in this time of turmoil, hate and hope that KQED reached out to trans people in Brown’s life who were part of his community at the Young Women’s Freedom Center, where Brown sought support and, eventually, became a staff community organizer: Xavier Davenport, 36, a Black transmasculine man who was Brown’s mentor; Kazani Kalani Finao, 33, a Samoan transmasculine man who took the role of community sibling; and Juju Pikes-Prince, 24, a Black transgender woman who was a trans auntie to other trans people at the center, including Brown. Davenport and Kalani Finao were born and raised in San Francisco. Pikes-Prince was born in Daly City and raised in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This wide-ranging conversation aimed to find the commonalities in their experiences and Brown’s, navigating homelessness in San Francisco, acceptance in their families, and how trans people can find joy, despite the obstacles that lie in their path.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: We have some weighty topics to talk about today, but people aren’t just defined by trauma. Tell me a bit about how you met Banko Brown and your fond memories of him.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao\u003cem>: \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>I met Banko through Young Women’s Freedom Center. We like to call it their “center sibling.” So he’s a center sibling of mine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But on a personal note, we just had amazing, great conversations personally. Just always sparring with each other, bouncing back with fun ideas. He was a bright, outgoing person. Like conversation was always immaculate, always amazing, and he was a visionary. The struggle not only brought us together, but like I was able to like really build a relationship with him based on his gifts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953513\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11953513 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A young Samoan descent man wearing large glasses with a goatee and moustache and curly brown hair leans against a wall in a quilted, lavender bomber jacket and alight gray T-shirt.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kazani Kalani Finao poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>He became my mentee [at Young Women’s Freedom Center]. That was during the pandemic. We were focused on a lot of projects that were going to empower trans masculinity, empower the trans masculine identities that were coming up in [the] community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so, I wanted to make sure we had a group during the pandemic, like a peer-to-peer support group. The pandemic was very hard for a lot of transmasculine folks. A lot of them were essential workers. A lot of them lost jobs. A lot of them were creators that lost jobs. Some of them were sex workers that lost jobs. So my focus was to empower those people and make sure that they were heard and make sure that they could have someone to talk to. And so, Banko would come to those groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He enjoyed being able to be around other transmasculine people, focusing on how we can do something different for each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You said he felt like a visionary. Do you remember the first time you were sitting across, talking to Banko, and thought, “This person is just so amazing.”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>When he was advocating on behalf of himself, nobody would tell him what is best for him. He was always very, very stern, but very confident in what he was telling me about anything, whether it was advocating on behalf of himself or on behalf of others.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Kazani Kalani Finao, community sibling\"]‘He was very creative with his swag, his drip. He was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me.’[/pullquote]He was very creative with his swag, his drip. He was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me. I always would share with him, you give me so much confidence. You give me so much courage for me to be me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What I remember of him is drip, sauce, smile, hugs, goofiness. He funny. He hella funny.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He [also] pushed me to always have hard conversations, being honest for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Banko Brown reportedly was unhoused at the time he was killed. He had slept on BART at times and stayed with friends. Is this a familiar experience, both seeing it with Banko and in your own lives and trans communities? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao\u003c/strong>: So I have been homeless a lot in my life. I grew up here [in San Francisco] — you know, my first moments of living life on Earth, my family was experiencing homelessness. And then, when we did kind of get on our feet, and I’m speaking more of like my family, my mother, my grandmother, my great-great-grandmother. You know, those were the people that raised me. We floated in and out of housing, homelessness a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953512\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11953512 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A Black man with short black hair and a sort of long black beard and a nose-ring holds a small dog and stands against a blank wall. He wears a white T-shirt and a gray cardigan sweater.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Xavier Davenport with his dog in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It’s disgusting to live in the shelters. You always end up with some type of bedbug outbreak, MRSA outbreak. You got people fighting. When you put trans people in the shelter process, people talk bad about you. They treat you messed up, but they also use you for their sexual perversions. And that’s all trans people. And then, when you include a transmasculine person into the entire bit, they’re really mistreated. Right. Because then you have people that want to fight you because you think you’re a man. And so, they want to show you that you’re not a man. And so, you have to now deal [with] and navigate that experience as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so I said, the hell with that. I started just staying with people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>When I first had met Banko, he was housed at some point. Then later on down the line when we lost another trans sister in the community, that’s when stuff started to come out like, oh, he’s looking for housing. He has nowhere to go. So he was struggling at some point around that time. And there’s only so much a person can do for an individual, you know, and you’re also struggling, too.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Juju Pikes-Prince, community auntie\"]‘Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. It’s hard and it’s expensive, no matter what. … Shelters don’t protect my people either. Our stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out.’[/pullquote]Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. It’s hard and it’s expensive, no matter what. Being homeless is still expensive. I was homeless for about two years. I was living with a dude and it just wasn’t working out. But then even shelters, shelters don’t protect you. Shelters don’t protect my people either. Our stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out. People look at us like we’re nasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’re mostly impacted [because] we’re probably on drugs, sex-working to find shelter, can’t get jobs because of who we are. It’s hard out here. I’m a sex worker, so I know, I know what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You all touched on discrimination in the homelessness process, to some extent. But I wonder if you could talk about discrimination in a different context — the day Banko Brown was killed by a security guard in Walgreens, in late April. \u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>Some folks in the trans community said they sensed discrimination at play. Some people pushed back, pointing out that the security guard was also Black. I was hoping you could expand on what you suspect that discrimination could have been, from your own experiences.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>When you are a young Black, transmasculine-identified person, people see that. He walks in, he’s dark-skinned. He has a hat on, a T-shirt. And he looks very masculine. He has a little bit of a goatee growing in. People see that. And as another Black man, or being another man, there is a fight for power. There is a fight for or struggle for who is the man in this situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the thought process is, “You look like a little boy, or you’re trying to pretend to be a little boy.” Because let’s be clear. Banko had not had top surgery. He had not been going through that part of medical transitioning. He wasn’t stable enough in his housing to even get through that part of this process and the things that he wanted to do. So you have a masculine person with visible breasts coming at you. You are going to now struggle for your manhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s something that for people that are even lesbians who are more masculine looking, there is a struggle between men and any form of masculinity that, to them, isn’t necessarily real. Because, “You’re a woman. You can’t possibly be as masculine as me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I know this. I’ve dealt with this my entire life. I deal with it from police officers. I deal with it from people in my community. I deal with that from people on the streets. I deal with that at all aspects of my life. Somebody always wants to show me who is the man.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You have a person with the gun who’s struggling for masculine power, then you put a powerful piece in his hand. You end up with this situation with Banko and many other situations around the country with transmasculine folks being killed. His is not the first. Unfortunately, it will not be the last. But this is the state of our country and what we live in right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>And these are cases that are not getting covered, of Black trans men getting killed. We need to come together and start putting it out there so we all can be seen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We’ve seen a wave of conversations in public about Banko Brown’s identity since he was killed. And his death comes amid a national wave of anti-trans laws, as conservative lawmakers increasingly target the transgender community. \u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>So I’d like to talk about acceptance. Let’s start close to home. Were you accepted by your family when you came out? What was that like? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>Me and my mother understand what’s happening. Because my mother birthed me. But my father and my siblings that my father has, my father’s children, they have a bit of a hard time. And so, we don’t necessarily talk the way that people would think family should or relatives should. But my mother respects who I am. My mother understands what has taken place. And she’s accepted that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>My family, they understand, they’re very understanding. At first, it was tough, they just didn’t get it, the lifestyle. But when I told my mom everything and broke it down — you don’t want a dead child, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My father, on the other hand, he’s more big on education. He told me, he don’t care what I do. He wants me to graduate. I got it easy, in a way, but I still had it hard and I still struggle. Identity came into play. I’m just trying to come into myself, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You know [with] my mom, I was blunt, I do sex work, and I do this and that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And she was understanding?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I mean, she had to. I’m her child. I think really, partially, where she kind of understood after so long of me having to remind her because it took a time. So just a street life, how the street economy is, and not to put her business out there, but how she had to navigate homelessness herself and how she had to go about business to support about four children at the time or three. She understood: “As long as you’re safe, I love you.” We’ve got a good relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953511\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11953511 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A young Black woman with short black hair, lash extensions, black sunglasses on top of her head and a crop-top black hoodie, with long pink fingernails and sunglasses, sits on a blue sofa in a brightly lit room.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Juju Pikes-Prince poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>I just want to say this, too, because there was narratives being painted [publicly about Banko’s relationship with his family]. Banko do have family, that do care and love. But there was, at some point, everyone went their own ways. So I do just want to say that on the record he did have family, that did care and love. But he was looking for space in people’s hearts to fill that void that he has been missing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>My mother told me straight up, “Be you, son. Be you, son.” And for me, that’s a f—— privilege. Like, you know, for someone who’s being who they are, like me, and for my mom to just show up right away, how she was able to just accept me for me. It was just like a restart of our relationship as a mother and son today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s just a gift to me, you know? And so, what I’ve been doing with my folks is just like sharing my mama with them. Her strength is everything. She’s also someone as a queer being. Coming from a Samoan family and being someone growing up in the ’80s, being this queer, young Samoan girl who also is like exploring identity. And then, also exploring sexuality. She didn’t give a s—. She was like, I am gonna do me.[aside postID=news_11953672 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/06/RS31561_62418_AW_Pride_09-qut-1180x787.jpg']\u003cstrong>When you say you share your mama, do you mean you share her with other trans people who don’t have that?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Everybody. Trans people, all people. People who struggle. Like, my mom just signs up like, “I love you, I’ll f— with you.” And so, I shared my mama with my folks. And it’s all love. It’s my duty to make sure to create spaces for folks to be themselves. I just have to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We’ve talked a lot about weighty things. Hardships. But the goal is joy, right? I want you to tell me what your joy looks like.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I would say living and finding purpose, picking up someone else’s purpose when they couldn’t find their purpose. And knowing that I’m here and I can share some type of story for someone. Getting it out there, and hopefully helping the next person, the next generation, to continue to do this advocacy work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>I’m hella passionate about young folks. We say kids are the future. We got to really mean that s—.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>My joy looks like the rest of the work that I do, working with transmasculine-identified people. I do that even in my leisure time. The Bay Area Trans Masculine Collective is doing a second premiere of a calendar that we started last year with a group of transmasculine folks to continue to ensure that transmasculine folks are seen and can receive joy in seeing and having representation of themselves in all bodies, and different cultures and ethnicities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Banko Brown was shot and killed by a Walgreens security guard in April. For the 20th anniversary of the San Francisco Trans March, we talked to Brown's community.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721157428,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":51,"wordCount":2899},"headData":{"title":"What Banko Brown's Queer, Trans Community Says They Need for Safety, Joy in SF | KQED","description":"Banko Brown was shot and killed by a Walgreens security guard in April. For the 20th anniversary of the San Francisco Trans March, we talked to Brown's community.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"What Banko Brown's Queer, Trans Community Says They Need for Safety, Joy in SF","datePublished":"2023-06-23T13:04:28-07:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T12:17:08-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11953821/what-banko-browns-queer-trans-community-says-they-need-for-safety-joy-in-sf","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Celebration and sorrow often intermix.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s with that in mind that Friday, the San Francisco Trans March is commemorating 20 years of trans beauty and resilience. At 6 p.m., marchers will make their way from Dolores Park, down Market Street, to Turk and Taylor streets — the Tenderloin site of the 1966 Compton’s Cafeteria riot, when trans San Franciscans pushed back against police discrimination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the celebration also comes just two months after the death of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11950796/banko-brown-family-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-walgreens-security-company\">Banko Brown\u003c/a>, a Black transgender man who was shot and killed by Walgreens security guard Michael Earl-Wayne Anthony in late April, after allegedly shoplifting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While locally \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11949558/district-attorney-releases-video-of-banko-brown-shooting-at-walgreens-wont-files-charges-against-security-gaurd\">the investigation into Brown’s killing has been dropped by District Attorney Brooke Jenkins\u003c/a>, Brown’s death arrives at a time of unprecedented legal attacks on trans lives throughout the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights\">The ACLU is tracking 491 anti-LGBTQ+ bills in the U.S.\u003c/a> Those laws target many facets of trans people’s lives, from playing sports to using bathrooms, weakening nondiscrimination laws and banning medically necessary health care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The situation isn’t much better close to home. In San Francisco, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ourtranshomesf.org/about\">transgender people are 18 times more likely to be unhoused than cisgender folks\u003c/a>, according to Our Trans Home SF. One out of two trans people have been unhoused, and 70% of them report being harassed when staying in homeless shelters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown had a similar experience, spending years struggling to find stable housing and at times being unhoused, including in the days leading up to his death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"More Stories on Banko Brown ","tag":"banko-brown"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s in this time of turmoil, hate and hope that KQED reached out to trans people in Brown’s life who were part of his community at the Young Women’s Freedom Center, where Brown sought support and, eventually, became a staff community organizer: Xavier Davenport, 36, a Black transmasculine man who was Brown’s mentor; Kazani Kalani Finao, 33, a Samoan transmasculine man who took the role of community sibling; and Juju Pikes-Prince, 24, a Black transgender woman who was a trans auntie to other trans people at the center, including Brown. Davenport and Kalani Finao were born and raised in San Francisco. Pikes-Prince was born in Daly City and raised in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This wide-ranging conversation aimed to find the commonalities in their experiences and Brown’s, navigating homelessness in San Francisco, acceptance in their families, and how trans people can find joy, despite the obstacles that lie in their path.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez: We have some weighty topics to talk about today, but people aren’t just defined by trauma. Tell me a bit about how you met Banko Brown and your fond memories of him.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao\u003cem>: \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>I met Banko through Young Women’s Freedom Center. We like to call it their “center sibling.” So he’s a center sibling of mine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But on a personal note, we just had amazing, great conversations personally. Just always sparring with each other, bouncing back with fun ideas. He was a bright, outgoing person. Like conversation was always immaculate, always amazing, and he was a visionary. The struggle not only brought us together, but like I was able to like really build a relationship with him based on his gifts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953513\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11953513 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A young Samoan descent man wearing large glasses with a goatee and moustache and curly brown hair leans against a wall in a quilted, lavender bomber jacket and alight gray T-shirt.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66476_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-23-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kazani Kalani Finao poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>He became my mentee [at Young Women’s Freedom Center]. That was during the pandemic. We were focused on a lot of projects that were going to empower trans masculinity, empower the trans masculine identities that were coming up in [the] community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so, I wanted to make sure we had a group during the pandemic, like a peer-to-peer support group. The pandemic was very hard for a lot of transmasculine folks. A lot of them were essential workers. A lot of them lost jobs. A lot of them were creators that lost jobs. Some of them were sex workers that lost jobs. So my focus was to empower those people and make sure that they were heard and make sure that they could have someone to talk to. And so, Banko would come to those groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He enjoyed being able to be around other transmasculine people, focusing on how we can do something different for each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You said he felt like a visionary. Do you remember the first time you were sitting across, talking to Banko, and thought, “This person is just so amazing.”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>When he was advocating on behalf of himself, nobody would tell him what is best for him. He was always very, very stern, but very confident in what he was telling me about anything, whether it was advocating on behalf of himself or on behalf of others.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘He was very creative with his swag, his drip. He was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Kazani Kalani Finao, community sibling","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>He was very creative with his swag, his drip. He was a trendsetter to me. He’s definitely inspirational to me. I always would share with him, you give me so much confidence. You give me so much courage for me to be me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What I remember of him is drip, sauce, smile, hugs, goofiness. He funny. He hella funny.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He [also] pushed me to always have hard conversations, being honest for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Banko Brown reportedly was unhoused at the time he was killed. He had slept on BART at times and stayed with friends. Is this a familiar experience, both seeing it with Banko and in your own lives and trans communities? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao\u003c/strong>: So I have been homeless a lot in my life. I grew up here [in San Francisco] — you know, my first moments of living life on Earth, my family was experiencing homelessness. And then, when we did kind of get on our feet, and I’m speaking more of like my family, my mother, my grandmother, my great-great-grandmother. You know, those were the people that raised me. We floated in and out of housing, homelessness a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953512\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11953512 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A Black man with short black hair and a sort of long black beard and a nose-ring holds a small dog and stands against a blank wall. He wears a white T-shirt and a gray cardigan sweater.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66468_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-13-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Xavier Davenport with his dog in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It’s disgusting to live in the shelters. You always end up with some type of bedbug outbreak, MRSA outbreak. You got people fighting. When you put trans people in the shelter process, people talk bad about you. They treat you messed up, but they also use you for their sexual perversions. And that’s all trans people. And then, when you include a transmasculine person into the entire bit, they’re really mistreated. Right. Because then you have people that want to fight you because you think you’re a man. And so, they want to show you that you’re not a man. And so, you have to now deal [with] and navigate that experience as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so I said, the hell with that. I started just staying with people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>When I first had met Banko, he was housed at some point. Then later on down the line when we lost another trans sister in the community, that’s when stuff started to come out like, oh, he’s looking for housing. He has nowhere to go. So he was struggling at some point around that time. And there’s only so much a person can do for an individual, you know, and you’re also struggling, too.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. It’s hard and it’s expensive, no matter what. … Shelters don’t protect my people either. Our stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Juju Pikes-Prince, community auntie","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Navigating homelessness in San Francisco is hard. It’s hard and it’s expensive, no matter what. Being homeless is still expensive. I was homeless for about two years. I was living with a dude and it just wasn’t working out. But then even shelters, shelters don’t protect you. Shelters don’t protect my people either. Our stuff gets stolen. There’s fights that break out. People look at us like we’re nasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’re mostly impacted [because] we’re probably on drugs, sex-working to find shelter, can’t get jobs because of who we are. It’s hard out here. I’m a sex worker, so I know, I know what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You all touched on discrimination in the homelessness process, to some extent. But I wonder if you could talk about discrimination in a different context — the day Banko Brown was killed by a security guard in Walgreens, in late April. \u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>Some folks in the trans community said they sensed discrimination at play. Some people pushed back, pointing out that the security guard was also Black. I was hoping you could expand on what you suspect that discrimination could have been, from your own experiences.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>When you are a young Black, transmasculine-identified person, people see that. He walks in, he’s dark-skinned. He has a hat on, a T-shirt. And he looks very masculine. He has a little bit of a goatee growing in. People see that. And as another Black man, or being another man, there is a fight for power. There is a fight for or struggle for who is the man in this situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the thought process is, “You look like a little boy, or you’re trying to pretend to be a little boy.” Because let’s be clear. Banko had not had top surgery. He had not been going through that part of medical transitioning. He wasn’t stable enough in his housing to even get through that part of this process and the things that he wanted to do. So you have a masculine person with visible breasts coming at you. You are going to now struggle for your manhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s something that for people that are even lesbians who are more masculine looking, there is a struggle between men and any form of masculinity that, to them, isn’t necessarily real. Because, “You’re a woman. You can’t possibly be as masculine as me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I know this. I’ve dealt with this my entire life. I deal with it from police officers. I deal with it from people in my community. I deal with that from people on the streets. I deal with that at all aspects of my life. Somebody always wants to show me who is the man.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You have a person with the gun who’s struggling for masculine power, then you put a powerful piece in his hand. You end up with this situation with Banko and many other situations around the country with transmasculine folks being killed. His is not the first. Unfortunately, it will not be the last. But this is the state of our country and what we live in right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>And these are cases that are not getting covered, of Black trans men getting killed. We need to come together and start putting it out there so we all can be seen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We’ve seen a wave of conversations in public about Banko Brown’s identity since he was killed. And his death comes amid a national wave of anti-trans laws, as conservative lawmakers increasingly target the transgender community. \u003c/strong>\u003cstrong>So I’d like to talk about acceptance. Let’s start close to home. Were you accepted by your family when you came out? What was that like? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>Me and my mother understand what’s happening. Because my mother birthed me. But my father and my siblings that my father has, my father’s children, they have a bit of a hard time. And so, we don’t necessarily talk the way that people would think family should or relatives should. But my mother respects who I am. My mother understands what has taken place. And she’s accepted that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>My family, they understand, they’re very understanding. At first, it was tough, they just didn’t get it, the lifestyle. But when I told my mom everything and broke it down — you don’t want a dead child, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My father, on the other hand, he’s more big on education. He told me, he don’t care what I do. He wants me to graduate. I got it easy, in a way, but I still had it hard and I still struggle. Identity came into play. I’m just trying to come into myself, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You know [with] my mom, I was blunt, I do sex work, and I do this and that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And she was understanding?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I mean, she had to. I’m her child. I think really, partially, where she kind of understood after so long of me having to remind her because it took a time. So just a street life, how the street economy is, and not to put her business out there, but how she had to navigate homelessness herself and how she had to go about business to support about four children at the time or three. She understood: “As long as you’re safe, I love you.” We’ve got a good relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953511\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11953511 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A young Black woman with short black hair, lash extensions, black sunglasses on top of her head and a crop-top black hoodie, with long pink fingernails and sunglasses, sits on a blue sofa in a brightly lit room.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66461_230614-BankoBrownChosenFam-02-BL-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Juju Pikes-Prince poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 14, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>I just want to say this, too, because there was narratives being painted [publicly about Banko’s relationship with his family]. Banko do have family, that do care and love. But there was, at some point, everyone went their own ways. So I do just want to say that on the record he did have family, that did care and love. But he was looking for space in people’s hearts to fill that void that he has been missing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>My mother told me straight up, “Be you, son. Be you, son.” And for me, that’s a f—— privilege. Like, you know, for someone who’s being who they are, like me, and for my mom to just show up right away, how she was able to just accept me for me. It was just like a restart of our relationship as a mother and son today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s just a gift to me, you know? And so, what I’ve been doing with my folks is just like sharing my mama with them. Her strength is everything. She’s also someone as a queer being. Coming from a Samoan family and being someone growing up in the ’80s, being this queer, young Samoan girl who also is like exploring identity. And then, also exploring sexuality. She didn’t give a s—. She was like, I am gonna do me.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11953672","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/06/RS31561_62418_AW_Pride_09-qut-1180x787.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cstrong>When you say you share your mama, do you mean you share her with other trans people who don’t have that?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>Everybody. Trans people, all people. People who struggle. Like, my mom just signs up like, “I love you, I’ll f— with you.” And so, I shared my mama with my folks. And it’s all love. It’s my duty to make sure to create spaces for folks to be themselves. I just have to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We’ve talked a lot about weighty things. Hardships. But the goal is joy, right? I want you to tell me what your joy looks like.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pikes-Prince: \u003c/strong>I would say living and finding purpose, picking up someone else’s purpose when they couldn’t find their purpose. And knowing that I’m here and I can share some type of story for someone. Getting it out there, and hopefully helping the next person, the next generation, to continue to do this advocacy work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kalani Finao: \u003c/strong>I’m hella passionate about young folks. We say kids are the future. We got to really mean that s—.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Davenport: \u003c/strong>My joy looks like the rest of the work that I do, working with transmasculine-identified people. I do that even in my leisure time. The Bay Area Trans Masculine Collective is doing a second premiere of a calendar that we started last year with a group of transmasculine folks to continue to ensure that transmasculine folks are seen and can receive joy in seeing and having representation of themselves in all bodies, and different cultures and ethnicities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11953821/what-banko-browns-queer-trans-community-says-they-need-for-safety-joy-in-sf","authors":["11690"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_32718","news_31298","news_23544","news_20004","news_20003","news_32719","news_3123","news_38","news_1579"],"featImg":"news_11953518","label":"news"},"news_11918010":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11918010","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11918010","score":null,"sort":[1656367127000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1656367127,"format":"standard","disqusTitle":"'This Is Just a Start': At Pride, Post-Roe Threat to Marriage Equality Casts a Shadow","title":"'This Is Just a Start': At Pride, Post-Roe Threat to Marriage Equality Casts a Shadow","headTitle":"KQED News","content":"\u003cp>The sun shone down on Market and Noe streets on Saturday, cleared of cars and filled with smiling people. Vendors sold paintings of an idealized Castro neighborhood to passers-by. A drag queen in a yellow jumpsuit sashayed on a stage sporting signage behind her that read \"FAMILY PRIDE\" — this was San Francisco's first annual Family Pride block party. Parents held children on their shoulders and swayed to the beat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Husbands Maple Chen and Collin Anthony Chen pushed their stroller through it all. But as their 6-month-old son Henry goggled, wide-eyed but calm, at the sights of his very first Pride weekend, a familiar worry were on his fathers' minds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the recent Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade curtailing abortion rights across the country weren't weighty enough, a warning came written in the opinion of Justice Clarence Thomas, a stray few lines amid the 213-page decision that could change the course of the country, and their family's life.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"James Cox, advocacy director, Oakland Black Pride\"]'This is just a start, taking away women's rights. Next it's going to be taking away LGBTQ rights, trans rights, the rights of interracial couples. Like, how far are they going to go with this?'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A court ruling on same-sex marriages could be reconsidered by the court next, Justice Thomas wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I was a teenager, I never thought having kids would be possible, that our relationships would ever be recognized legally,\" Collin Anthony Chen told KQED. \"So then when I finally was able to have Henry and, of course, Maple as well, the relationship, I just couldn't believe it. I was just in shock. I was in awe.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He's anxious now, he said: \"If we're going back to the decisions that have been made by the Supreme Court, all of that is now in jeopardy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's especially worrisome, Maple Chen said, \"if we're thinking about our next kid.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11918057\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11918057 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-800x573.jpg\" alt=\"Two women stand together with arms around each other in the middle of the street.\" width=\"800\" height=\"573\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-800x573.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-1020x730.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-160x115.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-1536x1099.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wives Luisa Hurtado and Nicole Brown pose for a photo at the Family Pride block party on Saturday, June 25, 2022. \u003ccite>(Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Their family wasn't alone in their concern. Wives Luisa Hurtado and Nicole Brown also were at the Family Pride block party. They worried how losing same-sex marriage rights would affect their co-owned business, and their hope to adopt a child from Colombia, where Hurtado hails from.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We want to adopt and kind of have kids that are also part of my culture,\" Hurtado said. They thought there had been enough progress in both countries to make that dream a reality.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even worse, Brown felt Thomas' warning spurred unanswered questions that could lead to diminished lives. \"What if we can't be gay at work? What if we need to shield ourselves, and be a fraction of who we are?\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Across the bay, Lake Merritt played host to Oakland Black Pride. James Cox, advocacy director for the eponymous organization that sponsors the event, said despite the Pride weekend celebrations, the recent Supreme Court decision was top of everybody's mind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is just a start, taking away women’s rights. Next it’s going to be taking away LGBTQ rights, trans rights, the rights of interracial couples. Like, how far are they going to go with this?\" they asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Friday's decision, Justice Thomas cited three past rulings to revisit, centering on contraception, sodomy and same-sex marriage. Melissa Murray, an NYU legal scholar with expertise in constitutional law, told NPR that \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/06/25/1107663904/roe-v-wade-repeal-raises-questions-about-other-constitutional-rights\">Thomas essentially pointed the way toward other laws the public could push for reconsideration\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In doing so, he's essentially inviting future challenges to rights of same-sex marriage, rights of contraception, rights of parents to raise their children in the manner of their choosing,\" Murray said. \"All of those rights are underlaid by the same grant of liberty that Roe was underlaid by, and that has been found to be insufficient to root this in constitutional protection.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And while Thomas' fellow conservative justices explicitly wrote that their decision to overturn Roe v. Wade should not, and would not, affect those other decisions, the liberal justices plainly disagreed in their dissenting opinion.[aside postID=\"arts_13915237,news_11918017\" label=\"Related Posts\"]\"No one should be confident that this majority is done\u003cbr>\nwith its work,\" wrote justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Stephen Breyer. \"The right Roe and Casey recognized does not stand alone. To the contrary, the Court has linked it for decades to other settled freedoms involving bodily integrity, familial relationships, and procreation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those rights, the justices wrote, \"are all part of the same constitutional fabric.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown — the self-proclaimed \"Ayatollah of the Assembly,\" a political star-maker and long-respected political watcher — made a similar analysis to KQED on Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They're full of shit,\" said Brown in regard to the statements by conservative justices assuring people that the Dobbs decision would not affect same-sex marriage. (His opinion was phrased in what was \u003cem>perhaps\u003c/em> a more pointed fashion than that of the liberal Supreme Court justices.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked whether he thought Justice Thomas is alone on the court in his opinion, Brown replied, \"Not at all. Of course he isn't alone.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown spoke from just outside an annual Pride breakfast hosted by the Alice B. Toklas LGBTQ Democratic Club, an annual feast before the parade where LGBTQ+ advocates and politicians hobnob. The club's San Franciscan namesake, writer Alice B. Toklas, lived with writer Gertrude Stein in Paris for years as they hosted art salons together; theirs has been described as \"\u003ca href=\"https://jweekly.com/2016/12/23/paris-and-gay-love-through-the-eyes-of-gertrude-stein-and-alice-b-toklas/\">one of the best gay love stories of the 20th century\u003c/a>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toklas died in Paris at the age of 89. But even in her \u003ca href=\"https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/05/03/specials/stein-toklasobit.html\">New York Times obituary\u003c/a>, which was written in 1967, she was described merely as Stein's \"longtime friend.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sunday morning, inside the walls of the Hyatt Regency San Francisco Hotel, politicians warned attendees of the Toklas Pride breakfast that conservatives threaten to take the country back to such an era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These laws that they're passing are creating absolute terror for members of our community across this country,\" said State Sen. Scott Wiener, specifically naming Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, whose now-infamous \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089221657/dont-say-gay-florida-desantis\">Don't Say Gay\u003c/a>\" bill restricts schools from discussing everyday gay life. It's \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/10/1091543359/15-states-dont-say-gay-anti-transgender-bills\">also inspired copycat bills\u003c/a> throughout the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These laws are not just bad. We all deal with bad laws that get passed,\" Wiener told the crowd. \"These are laws that literally question whether our community has a right to exist, whether we have a right to exist.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wiener, who is openly gay, has received multiple death threats, including a recent bomb threat that was deemed credible enough to send a bomb squad to his home. He noted that it wasn't that long ago that people with hate in their hearts would drive long distances to beat gay men in the Castro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're used to violence, unfortunately, in this community. We also know how to fight back,\" Wiener said. \"Clarence Thomas did us a favor by saying the quiet part out loud, that Roe is just the beginning. They want to reinstate anti-sodomy laws. They want to end marriage equality. They want to end contraception.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So guess what? We're not going back\" to those times, Wiener said. \"Not ever. That means we should be pissed off and should anger-tweet, but that's not enough. We have to win elections.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, also at the Pride breakfast, offered another solution: putting Republicans on the record about their positions, in Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/FitzTheReporter/status/1541097167951040512\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So what we plan to do is put all these things back on the agenda so we can put them on the record. Enshrining Roe v. Wade as law of the land. Passing the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/02/24/969591569/house-to-vote-on-equality-act-heres-what-the-law-would-do\">Equality Act,\u003c/a>\" Pelosi said, referring to a ban on discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But outside the breakfast, late in the morning as the crowds for the Pride parade began to form on Market Street, Brown sounded a more clear-eyed warning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We went to sleep a long time ago as Democrats. We had no vision of what tomorrow could be like. And as we achieved all the things we achieved, redefining, etcetera, we didn't understand we needed to protect them,\" he said, referring to abortion rights and rights for LGBTQ+ communities. \"The Republicans knew exactly how to ultimately get rid of them, and they did what they needed to do at every level. They started with justices of the peace and [went] all the way up to the Supreme Court. That's the way it is.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Standing just before the Hyatt's wide, revolving doors, Brown and this reporter could see Pride revelers beginning to gather outside. Brown gave his view plainly: Democrats have failed. And with those failures come very real consequences not only for people who can become pregnant but, soon, possibly everyone who was celebrating under the colorful Pride banners fluttering just outside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED's Daphne Young contributed to this report. NPR's Michael Martin also contributed to this report. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","disqusIdentifier":"11918010 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11918010","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2022/06/27/this-is-just-a-start-at-pride-post-roe-threat-to-marriage-equality-casts-a-shadow/","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":1554,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":35},"modified":1656367731,"excerpt":"Attendees of Pride celebrations and legislators shared their concerns over the weekend about the implications of the recent Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. 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Wade, curtailing abortion rights across the country.","title":"'This Is Just a Start': At Pride, Post-Roe Threat to Marriage Equality Casts a Shadow | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"'This Is Just a Start': At Pride, Post-Roe Threat to Marriage Equality Casts a Shadow","datePublished":"2022-06-27T14:58:47-07:00","dateModified":"2022-06-27T15:08:51-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"this-is-just-a-start-at-pride-post-roe-threat-to-marriage-equality-casts-a-shadow","status":"publish","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11918010/this-is-just-a-start-at-pride-post-roe-threat-to-marriage-equality-casts-a-shadow","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The sun shone down on Market and Noe streets on Saturday, cleared of cars and filled with smiling people. Vendors sold paintings of an idealized Castro neighborhood to passers-by. A drag queen in a yellow jumpsuit sashayed on a stage sporting signage behind her that read \"FAMILY PRIDE\" — this was San Francisco's first annual Family Pride block party. Parents held children on their shoulders and swayed to the beat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Husbands Maple Chen and Collin Anthony Chen pushed their stroller through it all. But as their 6-month-old son Henry goggled, wide-eyed but calm, at the sights of his very first Pride weekend, a familiar worry were on his fathers' minds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the recent Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade curtailing abortion rights across the country weren't weighty enough, a warning came written in the opinion of Justice Clarence Thomas, a stray few lines amid the 213-page decision that could change the course of the country, and their family's life.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'This is just a start, taking away women's rights. Next it's going to be taking away LGBTQ rights, trans rights, the rights of interracial couples. Like, how far are they going to go with this?'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"James Cox, advocacy director, Oakland Black Pride","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A court ruling on same-sex marriages could be reconsidered by the court next, Justice Thomas wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I was a teenager, I never thought having kids would be possible, that our relationships would ever be recognized legally,\" Collin Anthony Chen told KQED. \"So then when I finally was able to have Henry and, of course, Maple as well, the relationship, I just couldn't believe it. I was just in shock. I was in awe.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He's anxious now, he said: \"If we're going back to the decisions that have been made by the Supreme Court, all of that is now in jeopardy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's especially worrisome, Maple Chen said, \"if we're thinking about our next kid.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11918057\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11918057 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-800x573.jpg\" alt=\"Two women stand together with arms around each other in the middle of the street.\" width=\"800\" height=\"573\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-800x573.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-1020x730.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-160x115.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1-1536x1099.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/HurtadoandNicole-1.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wives Luisa Hurtado and Nicole Brown pose for a photo at the Family Pride block party on Saturday, June 25, 2022. \u003ccite>(Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Their family wasn't alone in their concern. Wives Luisa Hurtado and Nicole Brown also were at the Family Pride block party. They worried how losing same-sex marriage rights would affect their co-owned business, and their hope to adopt a child from Colombia, where Hurtado hails from.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We want to adopt and kind of have kids that are also part of my culture,\" Hurtado said. They thought there had been enough progress in both countries to make that dream a reality.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even worse, Brown felt Thomas' warning spurred unanswered questions that could lead to diminished lives. \"What if we can't be gay at work? What if we need to shield ourselves, and be a fraction of who we are?\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Across the bay, Lake Merritt played host to Oakland Black Pride. James Cox, advocacy director for the eponymous organization that sponsors the event, said despite the Pride weekend celebrations, the recent Supreme Court decision was top of everybody's mind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is just a start, taking away women’s rights. Next it’s going to be taking away LGBTQ rights, trans rights, the rights of interracial couples. Like, how far are they going to go with this?\" they asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Friday's decision, Justice Thomas cited three past rulings to revisit, centering on contraception, sodomy and same-sex marriage. Melissa Murray, an NYU legal scholar with expertise in constitutional law, told NPR that \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/06/25/1107663904/roe-v-wade-repeal-raises-questions-about-other-constitutional-rights\">Thomas essentially pointed the way toward other laws the public could push for reconsideration\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In doing so, he's essentially inviting future challenges to rights of same-sex marriage, rights of contraception, rights of parents to raise their children in the manner of their choosing,\" Murray said. \"All of those rights are underlaid by the same grant of liberty that Roe was underlaid by, and that has been found to be insufficient to root this in constitutional protection.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And while Thomas' fellow conservative justices explicitly wrote that their decision to overturn Roe v. Wade should not, and would not, affect those other decisions, the liberal justices plainly disagreed in their dissenting opinion.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13915237,news_11918017","label":"Related Posts "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\"No one should be confident that this majority is done\u003cbr>\nwith its work,\" wrote justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Stephen Breyer. \"The right Roe and Casey recognized does not stand alone. To the contrary, the Court has linked it for decades to other settled freedoms involving bodily integrity, familial relationships, and procreation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those rights, the justices wrote, \"are all part of the same constitutional fabric.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown — the self-proclaimed \"Ayatollah of the Assembly,\" a political star-maker and long-respected political watcher — made a similar analysis to KQED on Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They're full of shit,\" said Brown in regard to the statements by conservative justices assuring people that the Dobbs decision would not affect same-sex marriage. (His opinion was phrased in what was \u003cem>perhaps\u003c/em> a more pointed fashion than that of the liberal Supreme Court justices.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked whether he thought Justice Thomas is alone on the court in his opinion, Brown replied, \"Not at all. Of course he isn't alone.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown spoke from just outside an annual Pride breakfast hosted by the Alice B. Toklas LGBTQ Democratic Club, an annual feast before the parade where LGBTQ+ advocates and politicians hobnob. The club's San Franciscan namesake, writer Alice B. Toklas, lived with writer Gertrude Stein in Paris for years as they hosted art salons together; theirs has been described as \"\u003ca href=\"https://jweekly.com/2016/12/23/paris-and-gay-love-through-the-eyes-of-gertrude-stein-and-alice-b-toklas/\">one of the best gay love stories of the 20th century\u003c/a>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Toklas died in Paris at the age of 89. But even in her \u003ca href=\"https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/05/03/specials/stein-toklasobit.html\">New York Times obituary\u003c/a>, which was written in 1967, she was described merely as Stein's \"longtime friend.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sunday morning, inside the walls of the Hyatt Regency San Francisco Hotel, politicians warned attendees of the Toklas Pride breakfast that conservatives threaten to take the country back to such an era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These laws that they're passing are creating absolute terror for members of our community across this country,\" said State Sen. Scott Wiener, specifically naming Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, whose now-infamous \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089221657/dont-say-gay-florida-desantis\">Don't Say Gay\u003c/a>\" bill restricts schools from discussing everyday gay life. It's \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/04/10/1091543359/15-states-dont-say-gay-anti-transgender-bills\">also inspired copycat bills\u003c/a> throughout the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These laws are not just bad. We all deal with bad laws that get passed,\" Wiener told the crowd. \"These are laws that literally question whether our community has a right to exist, whether we have a right to exist.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wiener, who is openly gay, has received multiple death threats, including a recent bomb threat that was deemed credible enough to send a bomb squad to his home. He noted that it wasn't that long ago that people with hate in their hearts would drive long distances to beat gay men in the Castro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're used to violence, unfortunately, in this community. We also know how to fight back,\" Wiener said. \"Clarence Thomas did us a favor by saying the quiet part out loud, that Roe is just the beginning. They want to reinstate anti-sodomy laws. They want to end marriage equality. They want to end contraception.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So guess what? We're not going back\" to those times, Wiener said. \"Not ever. That means we should be pissed off and should anger-tweet, but that's not enough. We have to win elections.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, also at the Pride breakfast, offered another solution: putting Republicans on the record about their positions, in Congress.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1541097167951040512"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\"So what we plan to do is put all these things back on the agenda so we can put them on the record. Enshrining Roe v. Wade as law of the land. Passing the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/02/24/969591569/house-to-vote-on-equality-act-heres-what-the-law-would-do\">Equality Act,\u003c/a>\" Pelosi said, referring to a ban on discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But outside the breakfast, late in the morning as the crowds for the Pride parade began to form on Market Street, Brown sounded a more clear-eyed warning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We went to sleep a long time ago as Democrats. We had no vision of what tomorrow could be like. And as we achieved all the things we achieved, redefining, etcetera, we didn't understand we needed to protect them,\" he said, referring to abortion rights and rights for LGBTQ+ communities. \"The Republicans knew exactly how to ultimately get rid of them, and they did what they needed to do at every level. They started with justices of the peace and [went] all the way up to the Supreme Court. That's the way it is.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Standing just before the Hyatt's wide, revolving doors, Brown and this reporter could see Pride revelers beginning to gather outside. Brown gave his view plainly: Democrats have failed. And with those failures come very real consequences not only for people who can become pregnant but, soon, possibly everyone who was celebrating under the colorful Pride banners fluttering just outside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED's Daphne Young contributed to this report. NPR's Michael Martin also contributed to this report. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11918010/this-is-just-a-start-at-pride-post-roe-threat-to-marriage-equality-casts-a-shadow","authors":["11690"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_866","news_22880","news_22623","news_3123","news_31261","news_23688","news_1217","news_932","news_125"],"featImg":"news_11918052","label":"news"},"news_11917710":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11917710","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11917710","score":null,"sort":[1656162113000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"sfpd-officers-to-march-in-pride-amid-complicated-feelings-uniform-compromise","title":"SFPD Officers to March in Pride Amid Complicated Feelings, Uniform Compromise","publishDate":1656162113,"format":"standard","headTitle":"SFPD Officers to March in Pride Amid Complicated Feelings, Uniform Compromise | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Given law enforcement’s history of abuses committed against the LGBTQ community and other marginalized and oppressed groups, it should have surprised no one when the issue of uniformed police marching in this year’s San Francisco Pride Parade threatened to disrupt an event organizers hoped would unite people after two years of social distancing driven by the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many in the LGBTQ community simply did not want uniformed officers, even queer ones, marching up Market Street in uniforms Sunday. But LGBTQ police officers, firefighters and sheriff’s deputies announced they would not participate if their uniforms were banned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED spoke to Pride representatives and queer police officers to get a better understanding of why SFPD officers were initially told not to wear uniforms and why it caused such a controversy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The way Jupiter Peraza, director of social justice and empowerment initiatives of the historic Transgender District in San Francisco’s Tenderloin neighborhood sees it, having a uniformed police presence in the parade is antithetical to spirit of Pride events.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is just the visible connection between police uniforms at a celebration, at an event that is supposed to be a repudiation of suppression perpetuated by police,” she told KQED. “This history and this tension has been brewing for decades and decades.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, Pride organizers in New York City said last month they planned to exclude police from their parade altogether, prompting Mayor Eric Adams, a former NYPD cop, to say he might skip the event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Francisco, the controversy is not whether police officers should march, but what they \u003cem>wear\u003c/em>. The SF Pride Committee said LGBTQ police were welcome to march, but not in full uniform because of the uniform’s connection to systematic mistreatment or violence directed at the queer community for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=arts_11838357 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/07/Drag-demonstrationCOVER-1180x664.jpg']For example, in May 1979, the gay community was enraged by a light prison sentence given to former Supervisor Dan White, a friend of the police and fire departments, who murdered Mayor George Moscone and gay Supervisor Harvey Milk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the so-called White Night Riots, people threw bricks through City Hall windows and lit police cars on fire. SFPD responded with force at a gay bar in the Castro. It was a low point in relations between the LGBTQ community and the police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That’s something that we are very well aware of with the Stonewall Inn riots of 1969, even in San Francisco’s own Compton’s Cafeteria riots of 1966, these were direct confrontations of trans and queer people with police,” said Peraza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said opposition to uniformed police in the Pride parade was understandable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When you think of the creation of Pride, it was started by the activism and the resistance of Black and brown trans and queer people,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917923\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11917923\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut.jpg\" alt=\"woman speaks into microphone she's holding on sidewalk outside building as three Black and brown people listen in the background\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Transgender District Director of Social Justice & Empowerment Initiatives Jupiter Peraza speaks outside the site of the 1966 Compton’s Cafeteria riot in San Francisco on March 30, 2022. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>And today, after the murder of George Floyd and other fatal encounters with police, the uniform can be fraught for people of color and queer folks. That history, including excessive use of force, fatal shootings, discrimination and harassment, isn’t lost on Carolyn Wysinger, president of SF Pride, which puts on the parade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although she’s had family members in law enforcement – her grandfather was a police officer in Louisiana, and her cousin was a cop across the bay in Richmond – Wysinger, a Black lesbian, has also had more than her share of run-ins with cops. She says her masculine appearance has led to trouble, like the time she was pulled over in Southern California, apparently for an expired registration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was kind of pulled out of the car, you know, pushed up against the car stop and frisked,” she recalls. “And when he pushed me up against the car, he basically told me, ‘You know, if I find drugs in here, I’m throwing you in jail.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even worse, a CHP officer pulled her over on a freeway in Los Angeles County and pulled out a gun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And to this day, I don’t know why I was pulled over and I don’t know why I had a gun put to my head. But that did happen,” Wysinger said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In spite of incidents like those, Wysinger understands where queer police are coming from when they declined to march without uniforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They felt that by not wearing a uniform that they were dishonoring the struggle of those who were there during [the fight pressing the SFPD to allow LGBTQ officers to march in their uniforms] and that, you know, was kind of diminishing that fight for them,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917929\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11917929\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut.jpg\" alt=\"a Black woman smiling broadly and wearing a bright red shirt leans casually against a building\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Carolyn Wysinger, board president of SF Pride, poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 23, 2022. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Police officer Kathryn Winters, a transgender member of the SFPD Pride Alliance, has a different take on the community’s relationship with the SFPD.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Once upon a time, LGBTQ persons weren’t really welcome in law enforcement. And the idea of LGBTQ people wearing a police uniform in a pride parade was unheard of,” Winters said. “The idea of us being out proud and visible was radical.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For that reason, she and other LGBTQ police officers were reluctant to let go of a hard-fought right both to join the SFPD and then to march in full uniform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So when the Pride Committee told them they could only march in something less than their full uniforms, the cops said no. And in a show of solidarity, Mayor London Breed said she wouldn’t join the parade either.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lt. Tracy McCray spoke for many police officers and other first responders when she described the importance of wearing their uniforms in the parade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a part of who we are. And, unfortunately, for some people they have angst when they see that,” McCray told KQED. “We’re identifiable with that. It is who you are.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917931\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11917931\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A Black woman smiles broadly, wearing a blue SFPOA shirt in an office with a US flag in the background\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tracy McCray, San Francisco Police Officers Association president, poses for a portrait at the SFPOA offices in San Francisco on June 23, 2022. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As a 33-year veteran of the SFPD, McCray isn’t just any cop. She’s the new president of the San Francisco Police Officers Association, which for years has defended officers accused of excessive use of force, killing unarmed men of color and sending racist texts messages. Despite pledging to reform, SFPD continued to stop and use force against Black people more than any other race in 2021. And earlier this year it was revealed that the department regularly \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11905239/sf-police-use-dna-from-rape-exams-to-identify-suspects-in-unrelated-cases-da-says\">logged\u003c/a> rape victims’ DNA information into a database to use as evidence in unrelated crimes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, in at least one way, McCray is different from her POA predecessors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Obviously, I’m a woman. I’m Black, and I’m actually a lesbian,” she said. “Who saw that coming? No one saw that coming. I didn’t see that coming.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Having a Black lesbian, who grew up in public housing in the Western Addition, head up the San Francisco police union might be evidence of impending change. But despite those demographic details, McCray acknowledges she’s still a cop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m interested in wages, working conditions and benefits,” she said. “I’m not into playing these political games, so I’m not a politician. It’s about getting what’s best for the members out on the street so they can understand what they can and cannot do when they’re doing their job.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='Related Coverage' tag='pride']The disagreement over uniforms in the parade turned out to be something of a misunderstanding. During a conversation at Manny’s Cafe in the Mission earlier this month, Pride Executive Director Suzanne Ford and Officer Winters, both transgender women, it became clear that the SFPD was under the impression they could not wear uniforms at all, while the parade committee merely wanted them to wear \u003cem>some\u003c/em> clothing with SFPD Pride logos rather than their full uniforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the end, a compromise was struck where on-duty members of the SFPD Pride Alliance will march in uniform and others will not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We felt that a common ground would be, ‘Hey, still come be in the parade. But maybe if you made it a little bit more casual, like Pride T-shirts, so it wouldn’t be as bad for some of the people who were asking for you not to be there,'” Wysinger said. “We felt that it was a good common ground for both the demonstrators and for the LGBT officers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That idea of openly gay cops and other law enforcement members marching in the Pride parade brings back memories for Danilo Quintanilla. As a closeted 18-year old growing up in the Central Valley, he came to San Francisco with a friend in 2008 to watch the parade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His eyes welled up as he recalled how that moment made him realize that a queer, Latino kid could fulfill his dream. Since 2016, he’s been a deputy with the San Francisco Sheriff’s Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One of the most profound moments was seeing law enforcement officers walking down the parade, holding hands of their partners, seeing literally the diversity of San Francisco reflected in law enforcement,” Quintanilla said.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"KQED spoke to Pride representatives and queer police officers to get a better understanding of why SFPD officers were initially told not to wear uniforms and why it caused such a controversy.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721122009,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":38,"wordCount":1660},"headData":{"title":"SFPD Officers to March in Pride Amid Complicated Feelings, Uniform Compromise | KQED","description":"KQED spoke to Pride representatives and queer police officers to get a better understanding of why SFPD officers were initially told not to wear uniforms and why it caused such a controversy.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"SFPD Officers to March in Pride Amid Complicated Feelings, Uniform Compromise","datePublished":"2022-06-25T06:01:53-07:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T02:26:49-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/a07d7f49-03fd-4c67-b503-aebe0131ef2a/audio.mp3","sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11917710/sfpd-officers-to-march-in-pride-amid-complicated-feelings-uniform-compromise","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Given law enforcement’s history of abuses committed against the LGBTQ community and other marginalized and oppressed groups, it should have surprised no one when the issue of uniformed police marching in this year’s San Francisco Pride Parade threatened to disrupt an event organizers hoped would unite people after two years of social distancing driven by the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many in the LGBTQ community simply did not want uniformed officers, even queer ones, marching up Market Street in uniforms Sunday. But LGBTQ police officers, firefighters and sheriff’s deputies announced they would not participate if their uniforms were banned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED spoke to Pride representatives and queer police officers to get a better understanding of why SFPD officers were initially told not to wear uniforms and why it caused such a controversy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The way Jupiter Peraza, director of social justice and empowerment initiatives of the historic Transgender District in San Francisco’s Tenderloin neighborhood sees it, having a uniformed police presence in the parade is antithetical to spirit of Pride events.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is just the visible connection between police uniforms at a celebration, at an event that is supposed to be a repudiation of suppression perpetuated by police,” she told KQED. “This history and this tension has been brewing for decades and decades.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, Pride organizers in New York City said last month they planned to exclude police from their parade altogether, prompting Mayor Eric Adams, a former NYPD cop, to say he might skip the event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In San Francisco, the controversy is not whether police officers should march, but what they \u003cem>wear\u003c/em>. The SF Pride Committee said LGBTQ police were welcome to march, but not in full uniform because of the uniform’s connection to systematic mistreatment or violence directed at the queer community for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_11838357","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/07/Drag-demonstrationCOVER-1180x664.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>For example, in May 1979, the gay community was enraged by a light prison sentence given to former Supervisor Dan White, a friend of the police and fire departments, who murdered Mayor George Moscone and gay Supervisor Harvey Milk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the so-called White Night Riots, people threw bricks through City Hall windows and lit police cars on fire. SFPD responded with force at a gay bar in the Castro. It was a low point in relations between the LGBTQ community and the police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That’s something that we are very well aware of with the Stonewall Inn riots of 1969, even in San Francisco’s own Compton’s Cafeteria riots of 1966, these were direct confrontations of trans and queer people with police,” said Peraza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said opposition to uniformed police in the Pride parade was understandable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When you think of the creation of Pride, it was started by the activism and the resistance of Black and brown trans and queer people,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917923\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11917923\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut.jpg\" alt=\"woman speaks into microphone she's holding on sidewalk outside building as three Black and brown people listen in the background\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS54874_007_KQED_TenderloinRedistricting_03302022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Transgender District Director of Social Justice & Empowerment Initiatives Jupiter Peraza speaks outside the site of the 1966 Compton’s Cafeteria riot in San Francisco on March 30, 2022. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>And today, after the murder of George Floyd and other fatal encounters with police, the uniform can be fraught for people of color and queer folks. That history, including excessive use of force, fatal shootings, discrimination and harassment, isn’t lost on Carolyn Wysinger, president of SF Pride, which puts on the parade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although she’s had family members in law enforcement – her grandfather was a police officer in Louisiana, and her cousin was a cop across the bay in Richmond – Wysinger, a Black lesbian, has also had more than her share of run-ins with cops. She says her masculine appearance has led to trouble, like the time she was pulled over in Southern California, apparently for an expired registration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was kind of pulled out of the car, you know, pushed up against the car stop and frisked,” she recalls. “And when he pushed me up against the car, he basically told me, ‘You know, if I find drugs in here, I’m throwing you in jail.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even worse, a CHP officer pulled her over on a freeway in Los Angeles County and pulled out a gun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And to this day, I don’t know why I was pulled over and I don’t know why I had a gun put to my head. But that did happen,” Wysinger said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In spite of incidents like those, Wysinger understands where queer police are coming from when they declined to march without uniforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They felt that by not wearing a uniform that they were dishonoring the struggle of those who were there during [the fight pressing the SFPD to allow LGBTQ officers to march in their uniforms] and that, you know, was kind of diminishing that fight for them,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917929\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11917929\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut.jpg\" alt=\"a Black woman smiling broadly and wearing a bright red shirt leans casually against a building\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56765_015_KQED_CarolynWysingerSFPride_06232022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Carolyn Wysinger, board president of SF Pride, poses for a portrait in San Francisco on June 23, 2022. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Police officer Kathryn Winters, a transgender member of the SFPD Pride Alliance, has a different take on the community’s relationship with the SFPD.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Once upon a time, LGBTQ persons weren’t really welcome in law enforcement. And the idea of LGBTQ people wearing a police uniform in a pride parade was unheard of,” Winters said. “The idea of us being out proud and visible was radical.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For that reason, she and other LGBTQ police officers were reluctant to let go of a hard-fought right both to join the SFPD and then to march in full uniform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So when the Pride Committee told them they could only march in something less than their full uniforms, the cops said no. And in a show of solidarity, Mayor London Breed said she wouldn’t join the parade either.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lt. Tracy McCray spoke for many police officers and other first responders when she described the importance of wearing their uniforms in the parade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a part of who we are. And, unfortunately, for some people they have angst when they see that,” McCray told KQED. “We’re identifiable with that. It is who you are.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917931\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11917931\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A Black woman smiles broadly, wearing a blue SFPOA shirt in an office with a US flag in the background\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56741_002_KQED_TracyMcCraySFPOA_06232022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tracy McCray, San Francisco Police Officers Association president, poses for a portrait at the SFPOA offices in San Francisco on June 23, 2022. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As a 33-year veteran of the SFPD, McCray isn’t just any cop. She’s the new president of the San Francisco Police Officers Association, which for years has defended officers accused of excessive use of force, killing unarmed men of color and sending racist texts messages. Despite pledging to reform, SFPD continued to stop and use force against Black people more than any other race in 2021. And earlier this year it was revealed that the department regularly \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11905239/sf-police-use-dna-from-rape-exams-to-identify-suspects-in-unrelated-cases-da-says\">logged\u003c/a> rape victims’ DNA information into a database to use as evidence in unrelated crimes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, in at least one way, McCray is different from her POA predecessors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Obviously, I’m a woman. I’m Black, and I’m actually a lesbian,” she said. “Who saw that coming? No one saw that coming. I didn’t see that coming.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Having a Black lesbian, who grew up in public housing in the Western Addition, head up the San Francisco police union might be evidence of impending change. But despite those demographic details, McCray acknowledges she’s still a cop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m interested in wages, working conditions and benefits,” she said. “I’m not into playing these political games, so I’m not a politician. It’s about getting what’s best for the members out on the street so they can understand what they can and cannot do when they’re doing their job.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","tag":"pride"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The disagreement over uniforms in the parade turned out to be something of a misunderstanding. During a conversation at Manny’s Cafe in the Mission earlier this month, Pride Executive Director Suzanne Ford and Officer Winters, both transgender women, it became clear that the SFPD was under the impression they could not wear uniforms at all, while the parade committee merely wanted them to wear \u003cem>some\u003c/em> clothing with SFPD Pride logos rather than their full uniforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the end, a compromise was struck where on-duty members of the SFPD Pride Alliance will march in uniform and others will not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We felt that a common ground would be, ‘Hey, still come be in the parade. But maybe if you made it a little bit more casual, like Pride T-shirts, so it wouldn’t be as bad for some of the people who were asking for you not to be there,'” Wysinger said. “We felt that it was a good common ground for both the demonstrators and for the LGBT officers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That idea of openly gay cops and other law enforcement members marching in the Pride parade brings back memories for Danilo Quintanilla. As a closeted 18-year old growing up in the Central Valley, he came to San Francisco with a friend in 2008 to watch the parade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His eyes welled up as he recalled how that moment made him realize that a queer, Latino kid could fulfill his dream. Since 2016, he’s been a deputy with the San Francisco Sheriff’s Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One of the most profound moments was seeing law enforcement officers walking down the parade, holding hands of their partners, seeing literally the diversity of San Francisco reflected in law enforcement,” Quintanilla said.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11917710/sfpd-officers-to-march-in-pride-amid-complicated-feelings-uniform-compromise","authors":["255"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_27626","news_20004","news_6931","news_116","news_20625","news_17968","news_3123","news_20331"],"featImg":"news_11917922","label":"news"},"news_11917738":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11917738","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11917738","score":null,"sort":[1656064823000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1656064823,"format":"audio","title":"Black, Queer, and Searching for Safe Spaces","headTitle":"Black, Queer, and Searching for Safe Spaces | KQED","content":"\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before moving to the Bay Area from Jacksonville, Florida, friends told KQED Rightnowish production intern Corey Antonio Rose he was heading to ‘gay mecca.’ \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As the months went by, Corey Antonio said, as a Black queer man, he felt invisible in the Bay’s queer spaces. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That experience kicked off a 3-part series called ‘Searching for a Kiki,’ in which he sets out to understand whether the Bay Area actually is a safe place for Black queer people, and finds people who have created those spaces themselves.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/CoreyARose\">Corey Antonio Rose\u003c/a>, production intern for KQED’s \u003cem>Rightnowish \u003c/em>podcast\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://bit.ly/3P4xXMM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Episode Transcript \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC1210579485&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13914457/rightnowish-searching-for-a-kiki-sfs-first-black-owned-gay-bar\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Searching for a Kiki: SF’s First Black-Owned Gay Bar\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13914743/searching-for-a-kiki-the-worlds-first-transgender-cultural-district\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Searching for a Kiki: The World’s First Transgender Cultural District\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13915069/searching-for-a-kiki-the-next-generation-of-black-and-queer-bars\">Searching for a Kiki: The Next Generation of Black and Queer Bars\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":true,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":149,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":8},"modified":1700690475,"excerpt":null,"headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"Before moving to the Bay Area from Jacksonville, Florida, friends told KQED Rightnowish production intern Corey Antonio Rose he was heading to ‘gay mecca.’ As the months went by, Corey Antonio said, as a Black queer man, he felt invisible in the Bay's queer spaces. 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He recalls how the community “came through the catastrophe of AIDS,” and how he survived eviction and temporary homelessness, and he talks about his enduring relationships with his loyal customers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11676014/letter-to-my-california-dreamer-finding-the-gay-mecca\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Letter to My CA Dreamer: Finding the Gay Mecca\u003c/a>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ve been asking listeners to write a letter to one of the first people in your family who came to California with a dream for our series, “Letter to My California Dreamer.” This week’s letter comes from trailblazer, activist, and Vietnam War veteran Felicia A. Elizondo, AKA Felicia Flames, who passed away in May of this year at the age of 74. 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Community organizers in the Bay Area have been \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/05/9824007/lgbtq-coronavirus-activism-queer-response-act-up\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">building on the work\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> of people like Bobbi Campbell, a San Francisco nurse who became the first person to go public with a cancer associated with AIDS. His work to educate the other gay men in the city was the beginning of an activist-led campaign that helped protect the queer community from AIDS even before the federal government acknowledged the disease.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guest: \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/sahotchkiss?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sarah Hotchkiss\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, KQED Arts’ Senior associate editor\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Read more of KQED Arts’ series \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/program/pride-as-protest\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pride as Protest\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC2825548005&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Episode transcript \u003ca href=\"https://bit.ly/3d72AAR\">here\u003c/a>.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode originally aired on June 26, 2019. 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Community organizers in the Bay Area have been \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/05/9824007/lgbtq-coronavirus-activism-queer-response-act-up\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">building on the work\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> of people like Bobbi Campbell, a San Francisco nurse who became the first person to go public with a cancer associated with AIDS. His work to educate the other gay men in the city was the beginning of an activist-led campaign that helped protect the queer community from AIDS even before the federal government acknowledged the disease.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guest: \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/sahotchkiss?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sarah Hotchkiss\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, KQED Arts’ Senior associate editor\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Read more of KQED Arts’ series \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/program/pride-as-protest\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pride as Protest\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC2825548005&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Episode transcript \u003ca href=\"https://bit.ly/3d72AAR\">here\u003c/a>.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode originally aired on June 26, 2019. 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New episodes are released Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 3 a.m. Find The Bay on \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bay/id1350043452?mt=2\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/4BIKBKIujizLHlIlBNaAqQ\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Spotify\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/kqed/the-bay\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stitcher\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, NPR One or via \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/KQED-The-Bay-Flash-Briefing/dp/B07H6YYV23\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Alexa\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11878891/from-aids-to-covid-19-gay-activists-in-san-francisco-have-been-organizing-in-public-health-for-decades","authors":["7240","61","8654","11649","11741"],"programs":["news_28779"],"categories":["news_457","news_33520"],"tags":["news_27504","news_29548","news_20004","news_3123","news_19960","news_22598"],"featImg":"news_11878892","label":"source_news_11878891"},"news_11826511":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11826511","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11826511","score":null,"sort":[1593387424000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"police-raise-batons-at-sf-pride-marchers-oakland-passes-torch-in-solidarity","title":"Police Raise Batons at SF Pride Marchers, Oakland Passes Torch in Solidarity","publishDate":1593387424,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Police Raise Batons at SF Pride Marchers, Oakland Passes Torch in Solidarity | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At an impromptu San Francisco Pride protest march, demonstrators called for solidarity between the LGBTQ community and the Black Lives Matter movement, drawing parallels between decades-long police violence to both communities.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Carrying echoes of those cries, police wielded batons at San Francisco Pride marchers in a tense clash, Sunday afternoon.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While the city’s official 50th annual Pride celebration went virtual due to the COVID-19 pandemic, in-person celebrations sparked a gathering at Mission Dolores Park, with hundreds taking to the streets for a “Pride is a Riot” march.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">An anonymous group of organizers came together to put on the decentralized protest, which called back the anarchist roots of Pride in solidarity with the recent nationwide protests against police violence.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/KQEDnews/status/1277457603728007170\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But, when Pride demonstrators marched from Dolores Park and tried to turn left onto Valencia from 18th Street, a white police van drove south down Valencia Street and parked across it. That lone police van and roughly a half dozen police officers formed a line to try and stop hundreds of marchers from heading up Valencia.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Protesters shouted “quit your job!” and “you’re killing black people.” The officers then tried to leave and inch forward, but could not exit the crowd, which surrounded them. Pride marchers spray painted the van. Officers exited the van again, as demonstrators kicked the van and hit it with their fists. Officers rushed towards them with batons raised and pushed members of the crowd away. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One marcher spray painted an officer in the face with red paint. Eventually, the van exited the crowd to an alleyway. San Francisco Police Department spokespeople said they were “not aware” of any injuries or arrests, but said “we are aware that bottles were thrown at officers who were at Mission Station” and officers were also “assaulted” with “improvised wooden shields.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The march continued towards Market Street. By evening, the protesters reached the Castro and started a dance party.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before the incident, speakers at the Pride celebration drew a parallel between the criminalization of being gay and transgender and the recent police violence and protests across the country.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Local activist Norma Gallegos was there and said she feels over the last decade, Pride has been “gentrified, corporatized and commercialized.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Stonewall was the historical movement in New York, where Marsha P. Johnson, the Black trans woman, threw the first rock in the Stonewall Inn,” Gallegos said, “but here in San Francisco, we have Compton’s Cafeteria where it’s also about fighting the police brutality that was happening in the trans community at the time in the late 60s and early 70s.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Gallegos said she wants to see systemic change and Pride return to its roots. She said \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pride has historically been anti-capitalist, queer and militant with the issues that have plagued and created barriers for Black, Indigenous, People of Color.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last year’s San Francisco Pride march also saw police arresting activists from the transgender community, leading to harsh critique from the community. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sf-police-chief-apologizes-for-historic-abuse-against-transgender-community/\">SFPD Police Chief Bill Scott later publicly apologized\u003c/a> for decades of “past actions” against the transgender community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We want to listen to you and want to truly hear you,” Scott said, publicly. “We will atone for our past.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Uniting of Two Cities and Two Prides\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On Saturday, the Bay Area community passed a pink torch from Oakland to San Francisco in a first ever joint-city Pride event.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Over a dozen people gathered outside Oakland City Hall where mayor Libby Schaaf kicked off the celebration by passing a pink torch to Joe Hawkins, the founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11826569\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11826569\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Oakland mayor Libby Schaaf and Joe Hawkins, founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, hold up the Pink Torch as they kick off the procession outside Oakland City Hall.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-632x474.jpg 632w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-536x402.jpg 536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1.jpg 1160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland mayor Libby Schaaf and Joe Hawkins, founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, hold up the Pink Torch as they kick off the procession outside Oakland City Hall. \u003ccite>(Julie Chang/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“You are such a leader in our city,” Schaaf told Hawkins, “You create a space of love and joy for our LGBTQI community, our family. And you have been doing that for years, even before you had a physical space, you were creating that space.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hawkins took the torch from Schaaf and addressed the Black Lives Matter movement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Black people in this country were enslaved for longer than we have been free,” Hawkins said. “And Black LGBTQ lives matter, too. We have, for a very long time, been the targets and in between pillars of hate: homophobia from our own community — of Black people — and racism from white queer people and white heterosexual people. Today, this symbolic uniting of the Bay Area is hopefully a step forward,” he added.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hawkins told KQED that in the past there has been a division between Oakland and San Francisco, but this event would help bring them together at a time when everyone is locked down and sheltering in place. “It brings us all together \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">finally\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, like this has never happened. So we’re very grateful, and we’re so happy to have this pink torch to help carry us into the future,” he said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hawkins walked over to Feelmore, a sex toy shop in downtown Oakland, and passed the torch over to Nenna Joiner, owner of the shop.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11826572\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11826572\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Joe Hawkins, founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, passes off the Pink Torch to Nenna Joiner, owner of sex toy shop Feelmore in downtown Oakland.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-632x474.jpg 632w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-536x402.jpg 536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4.jpg 1160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joe Hawkins, founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, passes off the pink torch to Nenna Joiner, owner of sex toy shop Feelmore in downtown Oakland. \u003ccite>(Julie Chang/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The pink torch continued its journey as it circled Lake Merritt, with torchbearers passing it from one person to the next at locations significant to the LGBTQ and black community, including the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, the site of the infamous “BBQ Becky” incident and a historic Black Panthers site.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The torch eventually made its way across the Bay Bridge and was handed off for a final time at Twin Peaks, where it was used to symbolically light an art installation of a massive pink triangle made of LED lights.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/karlmondon/status/1277096289470038018\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is the first time the Pink Triangle was made with lights instead of fabric since its debut 25 years ago. The creator of the annual Pink Triangle ritual, Patrick Carney, said the canvas used for the triangle would typically be laid out with the help of hundreds of volunteers, but due to social distancing restrictions amid the pandemic, they wouldn’t be able to do that this year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Carney teamed up with Illuminate, the group responsible for the dancing lights on the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge known as the Bay Lights, to turn the Triangle into an art installation which features 2,700 hot pink LED lights and covers nearly an acre of ground.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Triangle will stay illuminated until July 10.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The pink triangle was used as a symbol of hate during the Holocaust when gay men were forced to wear it on their chest as an identifier, but organizers say it has been embraced by the gay community as a symbol of empowerment and pride.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Vandalism\u003c/b> \u003cb>strikes Pride\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just hours before the torch procession took place, Hawkin’s LGBTQ Center was attacked.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11826589\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11826589\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-800x800.jpg\" alt=\"Oakland LGBTQ Community Center vandalized. Witnesses say a man approached the building Saturday morning and shattered its windows with a golf club while yelling racist and homophobic comments. The Oakland Police Department is investigating the incident.\" width=\"800\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-800x800.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-160x160.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-1104x1104.jpg 1104w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-912x912.jpg 912w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-550x550.jpg 550w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-470x470.jpg 470w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland LGBTQ Community Center vandalized. Witnesses say a man approached the building Saturday morning and shattered its windows with a golf club while yelling racist and homophobic comments. The Oakland Police Department is investigating the incident. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Witnesses say a man approached the building around 10 a.m. Saturday and shattered its windows with a golf club while yelling racist and homophobic comments.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“I was crushed like the glass, but I was also more determined to keep our center open and to encourage people and tell them we are not broken,” Hawkins said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The center will be up-and-running shortly and plans on opening a LGBTQ health clinic in September.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Oakland Police Department says it’s investigating the incident.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Police wielded batons at San Francisco Pride marchers in a tense clash, Sunday afternoon. A Pride gathering at Dolores Park saw hundreds taking to the streets for a 'Pride is a Riot' march.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721125468,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":36,"wordCount":1373},"headData":{"title":"Police Raise Batons at SF Pride Marchers, Oakland Passes Torch in Solidarity | KQED","description":"Police wielded batons at San Francisco Pride marchers in a tense clash, Sunday afternoon. 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That lone police van and roughly a half dozen police officers formed a line to try and stop hundreds of marchers from heading up Valencia.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Protesters shouted “quit your job!” and “you’re killing black people.” The officers then tried to leave and inch forward, but could not exit the crowd, which surrounded them. Pride marchers spray painted the van. Officers exited the van again, as demonstrators kicked the van and hit it with their fists. Officers rushed towards them with batons raised and pushed members of the crowd away. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One marcher spray painted an officer in the face with red paint. Eventually, the van exited the crowd to an alleyway. San Francisco Police Department spokespeople said they were “not aware” of any injuries or arrests, but said “we are aware that bottles were thrown at officers who were at Mission Station” and officers were also “assaulted” with “improvised wooden shields.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The march continued towards Market Street. By evening, the protesters reached the Castro and started a dance party.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before the incident, speakers at the Pride celebration drew a parallel between the criminalization of being gay and transgender and the recent police violence and protests across the country.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Local activist Norma Gallegos was there and said she feels over the last decade, Pride has been “gentrified, corporatized and commercialized.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Stonewall was the historical movement in New York, where Marsha P. Johnson, the Black trans woman, threw the first rock in the Stonewall Inn,” Gallegos said, “but here in San Francisco, we have Compton’s Cafeteria where it’s also about fighting the police brutality that was happening in the trans community at the time in the late 60s and early 70s.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Gallegos said she wants to see systemic change and Pride return to its roots. She said \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pride has historically been anti-capitalist, queer and militant with the issues that have plagued and created barriers for Black, Indigenous, People of Color.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last year’s San Francisco Pride march also saw police arresting activists from the transgender community, leading to harsh critique from the community. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sf-police-chief-apologizes-for-historic-abuse-against-transgender-community/\">SFPD Police Chief Bill Scott later publicly apologized\u003c/a> for decades of “past actions” against the transgender community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We want to listen to you and want to truly hear you,” Scott said, publicly. “We will atone for our past.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Uniting of Two Cities and Two Prides\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On Saturday, the Bay Area community passed a pink torch from Oakland to San Francisco in a first ever joint-city Pride event.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Over a dozen people gathered outside Oakland City Hall where mayor Libby Schaaf kicked off the celebration by passing a pink torch to Joe Hawkins, the founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11826569\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11826569\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Oakland mayor Libby Schaaf and Joe Hawkins, founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, hold up the Pink Torch as they kick off the procession outside Oakland City Hall.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-632x474.jpg 632w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1-536x402.jpg 536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-1.jpg 1160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland mayor Libby Schaaf and Joe Hawkins, founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, hold up the Pink Torch as they kick off the procession outside Oakland City Hall. \u003ccite>(Julie Chang/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“You are such a leader in our city,” Schaaf told Hawkins, “You create a space of love and joy for our LGBTQI community, our family. And you have been doing that for years, even before you had a physical space, you were creating that space.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hawkins took the torch from Schaaf and addressed the Black Lives Matter movement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Black people in this country were enslaved for longer than we have been free,” Hawkins said. “And Black LGBTQ lives matter, too. We have, for a very long time, been the targets and in between pillars of hate: homophobia from our own community — of Black people — and racism from white queer people and white heterosexual people. Today, this symbolic uniting of the Bay Area is hopefully a step forward,” he added.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hawkins told KQED that in the past there has been a division between Oakland and San Francisco, but this event would help bring them together at a time when everyone is locked down and sheltering in place. “It brings us all together \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">finally\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, like this has never happened. So we’re very grateful, and we’re so happy to have this pink torch to help carry us into the future,” he said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hawkins walked over to Feelmore, a sex toy shop in downtown Oakland, and passed the torch over to Nenna Joiner, owner of the shop.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11826572\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11826572\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Joe Hawkins, founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, passes off the Pink Torch to Nenna Joiner, owner of sex toy shop Feelmore in downtown Oakland.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-632x474.jpg 632w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4-536x402.jpg 536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Pink-Torch-4.jpg 1160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joe Hawkins, founder of Oakland Pride and CEO of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, passes off the pink torch to Nenna Joiner, owner of sex toy shop Feelmore in downtown Oakland. \u003ccite>(Julie Chang/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The pink torch continued its journey as it circled Lake Merritt, with torchbearers passing it from one person to the next at locations significant to the LGBTQ and black community, including the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center, the site of the infamous “BBQ Becky” incident and a historic Black Panthers site.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The torch eventually made its way across the Bay Bridge and was handed off for a final time at Twin Peaks, where it was used to symbolically light an art installation of a massive pink triangle made of LED lights.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1277096289470038018"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is the first time the Pink Triangle was made with lights instead of fabric since its debut 25 years ago. The creator of the annual Pink Triangle ritual, Patrick Carney, said the canvas used for the triangle would typically be laid out with the help of hundreds of volunteers, but due to social distancing restrictions amid the pandemic, they wouldn’t be able to do that this year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Carney teamed up with Illuminate, the group responsible for the dancing lights on the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge known as the Bay Lights, to turn the Triangle into an art installation which features 2,700 hot pink LED lights and covers nearly an acre of ground.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Triangle will stay illuminated until July 10.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The pink triangle was used as a symbol of hate during the Holocaust when gay men were forced to wear it on their chest as an identifier, but organizers say it has been embraced by the gay community as a symbol of empowerment and pride.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Vandalism\u003c/b> \u003cb>strikes Pride\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just hours before the torch procession took place, Hawkin’s LGBTQ Center was attacked.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11826589\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11826589\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-800x800.jpg\" alt=\"Oakland LGBTQ Community Center vandalized. Witnesses say a man approached the building Saturday morning and shattered its windows with a golf club while yelling racist and homophobic comments. The Oakland Police Department is investigating the incident.\" width=\"800\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-800x800.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-1020x1020.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-160x160.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-1104x1104.jpg 1104w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-912x912.jpg 912w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-550x550.jpg 550w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized-470x470.jpg 470w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/Oakland-LGBTQ-Center-vandalized.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland LGBTQ Community Center vandalized. Witnesses say a man approached the building Saturday morning and shattered its windows with a golf club while yelling racist and homophobic comments. The Oakland Police Department is investigating the incident. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the Oakland LGBTQ Community Center)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Witnesses say a man approached the building around 10 a.m. Saturday and shattered its windows with a golf club while yelling racist and homophobic comments.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“I was crushed like the glass, but I was also more determined to keep our center open and to encourage people and tell them we are not broken,” Hawkins said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The center will be up-and-running shortly and plans on opening a LGBTQ health clinic in September.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Oakland Police Department says it’s investigating the incident.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11826511/police-raise-batons-at-sf-pride-marchers-oakland-passes-torch-in-solidarity","authors":["11642","11683","11690"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_19971","news_20013","news_27626","news_28031","news_6905","news_116","news_3123","news_38","news_20331"],"featImg":"news_11826580","label":"news"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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