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How Paramore’s Hayley Williams Helped Her Grandfather Release His Debut Album

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Rusty Williams visiting RCA studios in Nashville, Tenn. (Zac Farro)

Rusty Williams isn’t a famous singer. But maybe he could have been.

In the early ’70s and ’80s, Williams and his friend Frank Morris recorded original music together. But when Williams presented their recordings to labels in Nashville, he was told to make them “more country.”

“I am not country. Don’t want to be country. If one song’s got a guitar lick at the end, that’s as country as we ever got,” Williams said. Uncompromising, he shelved the recordings and eventually forgot about them.

Although Rusty never became the famous singer in the family, his granddaughter Hayley Williams did. She is the lead singer of Paramore, a Grammy Award-winning rock band that has toured around the world.

She says she owes much of her musical abilities to her grandfather. He taught her drums and introduced her to artists like Elvis Presley and The Temptations. He would also occasionally sit at the piano and sing some of his songs for her, which are some of her earliest memories of hearing music.

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“This is where I came from,” Hayley said. “This is also the person that believed that I could do it before anyone else believed I could do it.”

Now 78, Rusty Williams’ own dreams are coming true with help from his granddaughter. He released his debut album, Grand Man, on Feb. 14, about 50 years after it was recorded.

Grand Man embodies the timelessness of love songs. Some of the music on the album captures Rusty’s love for his wife of 60 years, Sharon. “Angel Eyes” is one of his and Hayley’s favorites. In it, he sings, “Oh angel eyes, You’ve been here all of my life, And now that I’ve found you, I’ll never let you go. Angel eyes, I love you so.”

His songs often begin as poems. Then the poems become melodies. With groovy instrumentals from Morris and friends, Rusty transforms into a soulful crooner. “I wanted to sing,” said Rusty. “And that’s what I did.”

It wasn’t until 2024 that Hayley realized her grandfather almost had an album of his own. Rusty’s collaborator, Morris, had dug up the old recordings and sent them to the family.

Rusty Williams (center) and his granddaughter Hayley Williams, lead vocalist of Paramore, stepping outside for a cigarette.
Rusty Williams (center) and his granddaughter Hayley Williams, lead vocalist of Paramore, stepping outside for a cigarette. (Zac Farro)

Hayley’s Paramore bandmate, Zac Farro, happens to run the label Congrats Records. When she played the music for him, “he was like, ‘This is incredible. Like, we need to do something with this.’ ” Soon, the recordings were digitized and made into vinyl.

Now available for the world to hear, Hayley says Grand Man transports her right back to intimate moments of her family’s past.

“I hear stories all the time. But when you get to actually experience a piece of that history and it gets brought into the present with you, it’s, like, better than a photo album,” Hayley said. “It’s like you’re sitting there with all of it right there in the moment.”

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A MARTÍNEZ, HOST:

Rusty Williams is not famous. Perhaps if things had happened differently, he could have been. He’s a singer who wanted to make it in the music business. And now, at 78, his famous granddaughter is helping his dream come true. NPR’s Milton Guevara has the story.

MILTON GUEVARA, BYLINE: Rusty Williams has been making music since he was seven.

RUSTY WILLIAMS: I wanted to sing, and that’s what I did.

GUEVARA: Beginning in the early ’70s, Williams and his producer friend, Frank Morris, got in the studio to record some of the songs they wrote.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “RIVERBOAT GAMBLER”)

R WILLIAMS: (Singing) He’s a riverboat gambler and he knows what to play. When the cards fall wrong, there’ll be another day. If he don’t win a hand, he’ll take what he can. Take what he can.

GUEVARA: But when Williams presented those recordings to bigwigs in Nashville, he was told to change them.

R WILLIAMS: Go home and make them country. I said, I am not country. Don’t want to be country.

GUEVARA: So Williams stood his ground and refused to release the would-be album. The tapes were shelved, and as time passed…

R WILLIAMS: I forgot about them.

GUEVARA: Although he let the recordings collect dust, he never forgot about the music.

HAYLEY WILLIAMS: I had heard him play some of those songs on the piano when I was really, really young.

GUEVARA: That’s his granddaughter, Hayley. Those songs lit a fire.

R WILLIAMS: And when she started talking about – she would say, granddad, how do I get in the music business? I said, baby, you got to want it.

GUEVARA: She did want it. While Rusty never became the big-time singer in the family, Hayley Williams did.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “ALL I WANTED”)

H WILLIAMS: (Singing) All I wanted was you.

GUEVARA: She’s the lead singer of Paramore, a rock band that has toured the world many times over. It wasn’t until recently that she realized her grandfather almost had an album of his own. Rusty’s producer friend had dug up the old recordings and sent them to the family.

H WILLIAMS: I think they were moving houses, or they were doing something and going through a bunch of old stuff. And somehow, it just came up that granddad really wanted to have all of this music and be able to listen to it just for himself.

GUEVARA: And Hayley’s bandmate in Paramore, Zac Farro, happens to run a record label. When he heard Rusty’s music…

H WILLIAMS: He was like, this is incredible. Like, we need to do something with this, you know? And the next thing I knew, we had everything digitized.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “KNOCKING (AT YOUR DOOR)”)

R WILLIAMS: (Singing) Won’t you tell me, tell me now? So I will be knocking, only knocking at your door. And while your heart is aching, you know mine is brеaking, for you won’t let me in. No, you won’t let mе in anymore.

H WILLIAMS: I probably hang out with gran and granddad more than anyone else in my life, and I hear stories all the time. But when you get to actually experience a piece of that history, and it gets brought into the present with you, that’s just, like, better than a photo album. It’s like you’re sitting there with all of it in the moment.

GUEVARA: Some of the moments in the music capture Rusty’s love for Sharon, his wife of 60 years.

H WILLIAMS: What’s your favorite one, granddad, if you had to pick?

R WILLIAMS: “Every Time I’m High.”

H WILLIAMS: Oh, I love that song.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “EVERY TIME I’M HIGH”)

R WILLIAMS: (Singing) Every time I’m high, I love you. Every time I’m low, I need you.

I’m going to cry.

H WILLIAMS: Aw.

(LAUGHTER)

H WILLIAMS: Granddad cries pretty easy these days.

GUEVARA: Better late than never. At 78, Rusty Williams finally released his debut album. It’s called “Grand Man.”

Milton Guevara, NPR News.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “ANGEL EYES”)

R WILLIAMS: (Singing) Oh, angel eyes. Oh, angel eyes.

H WILLIAMS: Granddad, you did your first NPR interview.

R WILLIAMS: I did, and that made me famous.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “ANGEL EYES”)

R WILLIAMS: (Singing) And now that I’ve found you, I’ll never let you…

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