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It unites all age groups, genders and skill levels through simultaneous dancing in concentric circles. Garba’s steps are relatively simple, and follow “teen tali,” a three-clap cadence that involves a step-cross-step pattern.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mody asserts that the dance isn’t limited to any specific religious denomination, locale or cultural demographic. Instead, garba is a dance that is meant to be open and welcoming. She encourages attendees to dress in their own cultural attire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Importantly, the Aug. 3 gathering centers on the liberation of all groups, as an anti-caste, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/20/what-is-hindu-nationalism-and-who-are-the-rss\">anti-Hindutva\u003c/a> event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But garba isn’t just solely reserved for monumental occasions. Mody recalls her mother breaking into garba after eating a good meal just as often as guests might extemporaneously perform it at baby showers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mody points out that garba is more widely celebrated throughout the South Bay — citing Fremont, Union City, Milpitas, San Jose and Sunnyvale as hubs of Indian culture — but it’s not something she has noticed in Oakland, where she has intermittently lived for the past 13 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13961624\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1224px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13961624\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba.jpg\" alt=\"a woman sits inside an elegant hallway while wearing festive attire\" width=\"1224\" height=\"1632\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba.jpg 1224w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-160x213.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-768x1024.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-1152x1536.jpg 1152w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1224px) 100vw, 1224px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Reetu Mody sits at a garba while her hands dry with mehndi (body art). \u003ccite>(Dilip Mody)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The event is arriving at an opportune moment for Oaklanders, as \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101906166/oakland-mayor-sheng-thao-confronts-onslaught-of-troubles\">the city’s political failings\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982386/what-the-as-temporary-move-to-sacramento-means-for-fans\">exodus of professional sports franchises\u003c/a> continue to take the headlines. Still, Mody says Oakland’s cultural offerings are unparalleled, and garba is merely a reflection of what the city’s diverse residents can offer to one another.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to bring parts of our cultures that are portals to possibility, not portals to oppression,” she says. “You can only reach [transcendence] when moving together and being joyful together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The festival will feature Madhvi on vocals, Asim Mehta on keyboards and Parimal Zaveri on percussion, \u003ca href=\"http://kampmusic.com/bio.htm\">local legends of garba from the 80s\u003c/a>. A large dhol — the traditional drum used for garba — will serve as a musical centerpiece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dance classes will be offered at the start of the festival for those interested in learning the steps; participation is strongly encouraged. As a culminating addition, an “Oakland step” will be created and performed on-site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Each city has to have its own step for the dance,” Mody says. “It’s not exactly dancing though. It’s playing. It’s playful by nature. You don’t dance garba; you play it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003ca href=\"https://oacc.cc/event/bombaytothebay/\">Garba Dance Festival\u003c/a> will take place at the Oakland Asian Cultural Center (388 Ninth Street, Suite 290), on Aug. 3, 2024, 5–10 p.m. The event is free with \u003ca href=\"https://oacc.cc/event/bombaytothebay/\">registration\u003c/a>. \u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Vendors, including \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/bandungbooks/?hl=en\">Bandung Books\u003c/a>, will be on site. \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/paisleyhennna/?hl=en\">Paisley Henna\u003c/a> will provide donation-based henna. All proceeds will go towards Palestine Legal and Middle Eastern Children’s Alliance to support their work in Gaza.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Aug. 3 festival dedicated to the group folk dance welcomes all ages, genders and skill levels.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1722037400,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":19,"wordCount":699},"headData":{"title":"Oakland’s First Garba Dance Festival Arrives in Chinatown | KQED","description":"The Aug. 3 festival dedicated to the group folk dance welcomes all ages, genders and skill levels.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Oakland’s First Garba Dance Festival Arrives in Chinatown","datePublished":"2024-07-26T15:16:26-07:00","dateModified":"2024-07-26T16:43:20-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-13961580","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13961580/garba-dance-festival-oakland-chinatown","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Garba (pronounced gehr-buh) is probably something you haven’t publicly encountered in Oakland before. That’s because, well, there isn’t really anywhere that it formally happens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reetu Mody, a second-generation Indian American who grew up in Concord, hopes to change that. For Mody, who was raised around garba (a subregional Indian and Pakistani dance), the group-style folk tradition represents the East Bay’s inner vibrancy. And she’s determined to introduce it to a wider audience with “BomBay to the Bay,” \u003ca href=\"https://oacc.cc/event/bombaytothebay/\">Oakland’s inaugural Garba Dance Festival\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city’s first ever garba festival will be hosted at the \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/oaklandasiancc/?hl=en\">Oakland Asian Cultural Center\u003c/a> (OACC) in Oakland’s Chinatown on Saturday, Aug. 3.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“[Garba] is the spirit of Oakland,” says Mody, a community organizer and attorney who applied for a grant and assembled the festival in her spare time with massive support from the OACC.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This isn’t about performance. It isn’t just something you watch,” she says. “It’s a living thing and you connect with others. It’s about the group. You all dance into transcendence together.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The folk dance is actively practiced around the world, and hails from South Asia. It unites all age groups, genders and skill levels through simultaneous dancing in concentric circles. Garba’s steps are relatively simple, and follow “teen tali,” a three-clap cadence that involves a step-cross-step pattern.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mody asserts that the dance isn’t limited to any specific religious denomination, locale or cultural demographic. Instead, garba is a dance that is meant to be open and welcoming. She encourages attendees to dress in their own cultural attire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Importantly, the Aug. 3 gathering centers on the liberation of all groups, as an anti-caste, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/20/what-is-hindu-nationalism-and-who-are-the-rss\">anti-Hindutva\u003c/a> event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But garba isn’t just solely reserved for monumental occasions. Mody recalls her mother breaking into garba after eating a good meal just as often as guests might extemporaneously perform it at baby showers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mody points out that garba is more widely celebrated throughout the South Bay — citing Fremont, Union City, Milpitas, San Jose and Sunnyvale as hubs of Indian culture — but it’s not something she has noticed in Oakland, where she has intermittently lived for the past 13 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13961624\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1224px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13961624\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba.jpg\" alt=\"a woman sits inside an elegant hallway while wearing festive attire\" width=\"1224\" height=\"1632\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba.jpg 1224w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-160x213.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-768x1024.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/07/Garba-1152x1536.jpg 1152w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1224px) 100vw, 1224px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Reetu Mody sits at a garba while her hands dry with mehndi (body art). \u003ccite>(Dilip Mody)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The event is arriving at an opportune moment for Oaklanders, as \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101906166/oakland-mayor-sheng-thao-confronts-onslaught-of-troubles\">the city’s political failings\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982386/what-the-as-temporary-move-to-sacramento-means-for-fans\">exodus of professional sports franchises\u003c/a> continue to take the headlines. Still, Mody says Oakland’s cultural offerings are unparalleled, and garba is merely a reflection of what the city’s diverse residents can offer to one another.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to bring parts of our cultures that are portals to possibility, not portals to oppression,” she says. “You can only reach [transcendence] when moving together and being joyful together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The festival will feature Madhvi on vocals, Asim Mehta on keyboards and Parimal Zaveri on percussion, \u003ca href=\"http://kampmusic.com/bio.htm\">local legends of garba from the 80s\u003c/a>. A large dhol — the traditional drum used for garba — will serve as a musical centerpiece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dance classes will be offered at the start of the festival for those interested in learning the steps; participation is strongly encouraged. As a culminating addition, an “Oakland step” will be created and performed on-site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Each city has to have its own step for the dance,” Mody says. “It’s not exactly dancing though. It’s playing. It’s playful by nature. You don’t dance garba; you play it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003ca href=\"https://oacc.cc/event/bombaytothebay/\">Garba Dance Festival\u003c/a> will take place at the Oakland Asian Cultural Center (388 Ninth Street, Suite 290), on Aug. 3, 2024, 5–10 p.m. The event is free with \u003ca href=\"https://oacc.cc/event/bombaytothebay/\">registration\u003c/a>. \u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Vendors, including \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/bandungbooks/?hl=en\">Bandung Books\u003c/a>, will be on site. \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/paisleyhennna/?hl=en\">Paisley Henna\u003c/a> will provide donation-based henna. All proceeds will go towards Palestine Legal and Middle Eastern Children’s Alliance to support their work in Gaza.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13961580/garba-dance-festival-oakland-chinatown","authors":["11748"],"programs":["arts_140"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_835","arts_966"],"tags":["arts_879","arts_1143","arts_16152","arts_585"],"featImg":"arts_13961652","label":"arts_140"},"arts_13959404":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13959404","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"arts","id":"13959404","score":null,"sort":[1717797495000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"san-jose-salsa-afro-latin-music-festival","title":"Two San Jose Festivals Celebrate Salsa and Afro Latin Music in June","publishDate":1717797495,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Two San Jose Festivals Celebrate Salsa and Afro Latin Music in June | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":140,"site":"arts"},"content":"\u003cp>A lot of Bay Area salsa nights feature DJs spinning the classics by Celia Cruz and Willie Colón, so it’s a rare treat to see not one but three high-caliber ensembles playing both traditional and original music. On June 21, the art space MACLA (Movimiento de Arte y Cultura Latino Americana) and San Jose Jazz are hosting a free event with just that: \u003ca href=\"https://sanjosejazz.org/events/dia-de-san-juan/\">Día de San Juan Salsa Fest\u003c/a>, a celebration of Puerto Rican culture in downtown San Jose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The family-friendly festival features long-running ensembles that expertly combine African and Indigenous rhythms: Latin Rhythm Boys, Orquesta Taino and La Mixta Criolla, with additional support from DJ Leydis. Parque de los Pobladores, a small park nestled between MACLA, the Institute of Contemporary Art and San Jose Museum of Quilts & Textiles, will become a dance floor when these acts perform from 5–10 p.m.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Día de San Juan Salsa Fest also promises family-friendly activities, dance lessons and Caribbean food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It isn’t the only salsa offering coming up in San Jose this month. On June 10–14, the \u003ca href=\"https://queerafrolatindancefestival.com/\">Queer Afro Latin Dance Festival\u003c/a> arrives in San Jose, offering 60 gender-inclusive dance workshops in salsa and a variety of other genres, plus performances, discussions, dance parties and live salsa from Choco Orta and bachata from Johnny Sky. Unlike the Día de San Juan Salsa Fest, the Queer Afro Latin Dance Festival is ticketed, with pay-per-event options as well as festival passes for the entire week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether you’re a dancer or head-nodding wallflower, there’s something to appreciate for Caribbean music lovers of all kinds during this wealth of cultural offerings in the South Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://sanjosejazz.org/events/dia-de-san-juan/\">Día de San Juan Salsa Fest\u003c/a> takes place in Parque de los Pobladores in San Jose on June 21, 5–10 p.m. Free.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://queerafrolatindancefestival.com/tickets\">The Queer Afro Latin Dance Festival\u003c/a> takes place June 10–14. Dance workshops start at $25; concert tickets start at $75.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Dance lessons at the Queer Afro Latin Dance Festival, plus a free concert at Día de San Juan Salsa Fest.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1717797495,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":9,"wordCount":348},"headData":{"title":"Two San Jose Festivals Celebrate Salsa and Afro Latin Music in June | KQED","description":"Dance lessons at the Queer Afro Latin Dance Festival, plus a free concert at Día de San Juan Salsa Fest.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Two San Jose Festivals Celebrate Salsa and Afro Latin Music in June","datePublished":"2024-06-07T14:58:15-07:00","dateModified":"2024-06-07T14:58:15-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-13959404","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13959404/san-jose-salsa-afro-latin-music-festival","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A lot of Bay Area salsa nights feature DJs spinning the classics by Celia Cruz and Willie Colón, so it’s a rare treat to see not one but three high-caliber ensembles playing both traditional and original music. On June 21, the art space MACLA (Movimiento de Arte y Cultura Latino Americana) and San Jose Jazz are hosting a free event with just that: \u003ca href=\"https://sanjosejazz.org/events/dia-de-san-juan/\">Día de San Juan Salsa Fest\u003c/a>, a celebration of Puerto Rican culture in downtown San Jose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The family-friendly festival features long-running ensembles that expertly combine African and Indigenous rhythms: Latin Rhythm Boys, Orquesta Taino and La Mixta Criolla, with additional support from DJ Leydis. Parque de los Pobladores, a small park nestled between MACLA, the Institute of Contemporary Art and San Jose Museum of Quilts & Textiles, will become a dance floor when these acts perform from 5–10 p.m.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Día de San Juan Salsa Fest also promises family-friendly activities, dance lessons and Caribbean food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It isn’t the only salsa offering coming up in San Jose this month. On June 10–14, the \u003ca href=\"https://queerafrolatindancefestival.com/\">Queer Afro Latin Dance Festival\u003c/a> arrives in San Jose, offering 60 gender-inclusive dance workshops in salsa and a variety of other genres, plus performances, discussions, dance parties and live salsa from Choco Orta and bachata from Johnny Sky. Unlike the Día de San Juan Salsa Fest, the Queer Afro Latin Dance Festival is ticketed, with pay-per-event options as well as festival passes for the entire week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether you’re a dancer or head-nodding wallflower, there’s something to appreciate for Caribbean music lovers of all kinds during this wealth of cultural offerings in the South Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://sanjosejazz.org/events/dia-de-san-juan/\">Día de San Juan Salsa Fest\u003c/a> takes place in Parque de los Pobladores in San Jose on June 21, 5–10 p.m. Free.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://queerafrolatindancefestival.com/tickets\">The Queer Afro Latin Dance Festival\u003c/a> takes place June 10–14. Dance workshops start at $25; concert tickets start at $75.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13959404/san-jose-salsa-afro-latin-music-festival","authors":["11387"],"programs":["arts_140"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_835","arts_69"],"tags":["arts_879","arts_10278","arts_2519","arts_1084","arts_585"],"featImg":"arts_13959489","label":"arts_140"},"arts_13956215":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13956215","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"arts","id":"13956215","score":null,"sort":[1713544938000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"arts","term":140},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1713544938,"format":"standard","title":"Your Phone is Haunted","headTitle":"Your Phone is Haunted | KQED","content":"\u003cp>Distance doesn’t really make the heart grow fonder. It makes it colder and harder. We can calculate that distance by our waning attention on events in faraway places, or our lack of curiosity about them. It’s present in our relationship to the objects that surround us, all of which have come \u003ci>from\u003c/i> somewhere and been made \u003ci>by\u003c/i> someone, but which we regard with indifference, as if they blipped into existence just for our use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s this distance that artist \u003ca href=\"https://jenliu.info/\">Jen Liu\u003c/a> is trying to bridge — through video work, sculpture, painting, augmented reality and dance — by summoning the ghostly presence of South China’s labor activists and female electronics workers. “If you don’t see the labor, they don’t exist,” she said at \u003ca href=\"https://vimeo.com/886619818\">a recent screening\u003c/a> at California College of the Arts. “And then they don’t suffer and you don’t have to fight for them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13956235\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2500px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487.jpg\" alt=\"White gallery with large painting, sculptures in back and freestanding wall with embedded video screen\" width=\"2500\" height=\"1875\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13956235\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487.jpg 2500w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2500px) 100vw, 2500px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Installation view of ‘Jen Liu: GHOST__WORLD’ at / (Slash) in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the artist; Blindspot Gallery, Hong Kong; Upstream Gallery, Amsterdam)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Liu’s newest body of work, \u003ci>GHOST__WORLD\u003c/i>, has arrived in San Francisco as a Tanya Zimbardo-curated \u003ca href=\"https://www.slashart.org/ghost__world/\">solo show at /\u003c/a> (Slash) and two upcoming nights of \u003ca href=\"https://www.thelab.org/projects/2024/4/27/jen-liu-ghostworld\">dance performances at The Lab\u003c/a>. Informing each are Liu’s primary sources: first-hand interviews with electronics and e-waste workers, and a mixture of articles and documents, like “Precious Metals Investment Terms A to Z” and “Health Consequences of Exposure to E-Waste: A Systematic Review.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If this all sounds heavy, well, it \u003ci>is\u003c/i>. But Liu also skillfully deploys tactics of humor and beauty. The / show, for instance, is filled with frogs. Last summer, people wearing inflatable “\u003ca href=\"https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/chinese-frog-mascot\">frog mother\u003c/a>” costumes began appearing in the streets of China, selling frog balloons, issuing crisp military salutes and performing Buster Keaton-esque acts of physical comedy, both for the benefit of in-person audiences and viral online shares. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Designed by an artist frustrated with her job prospects, the frog costume appealed to Liu as a way of tying together multiple interests: the trend of “\u003ca href=\"https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%BA%BA%E5%B9%B3\">lying flat\u003c/a>,” China’s youth opting out of over-work and ambition; the precarity of economic prospects outside of factory work; and previous incarnations of political performance art. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13956236\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000.jpg\" alt=\"L: Image of hand holding phone in front of QR code, showing video on screen; R: blown glass on pedestal connected to glass on floor through black tube\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1316\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13956236\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-800x526.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-1020x671.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-160x105.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-768x505.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-1536x1011.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-1920x1263.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">L: Jen Liu, ‘GHOST__WORLD: AUGMENTED REALITY,’ 2024; R: Jen Liu, ‘GHOST__WORLD: FROGS,’ 2024. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the artist; Blindspot Gallery, Hong Kong; Upstream Gallery, Amsterdam)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>QR codes on the show’s walls activate “embedded” videos with found social media footage of the frog mothers. (You may find yourself developing a different relationship to your phone during this show.) On the exhibition’s largest screen, a looping video cycles through several days in a CG marshland, frogs bobbing between air and water, one jumping onto the back of a plane before it flies off. Large-scale, wonderfully textured and loopily cartoonish paintings on paper merge all the imagery of the show into surreal depictions of frog eyes, an unfortunate Clippy, office-appropriate pumps and manicured nails. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the back of the gallery, blown glass blobs resembling frog heads are linked with tubes that release atomized scents (“marshy swamp, popcorn, green apple, chainsaw, exhaust, etc.”). While I didn’t catch a whiff during my opening night visit, the gently steaming arrangement did suggest a science lab gone wrong. It’s an off-kilter tone that carries through to the show’s central work, the half-hour video \u003ci>PINK SLIME CAESAR SHIFT: GOLD LOOP\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Made with a combination of CG animation and live action, \u003ci>GOLD LOOP\u003c/i> was filmed in futuristic settings in Dishui, China (about an hour outside of Shanghai), and Birmingham, UK. “In my head, they became like sister cities,” Liu says. “Again, development for who? For what? Beautiful geometric structures down to perfectly circular lakes, circular economies and circular design. But then it’s serving a kind of ghost population and creating all this toxicity for the real people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The video is haunted by circles and spheres. Chemicals depicted as gold balls are pulled out of mouths; other, larger spheres roll eerily across emptied-out architectural spaces. A woman lectures fellow workers about “circular economics” as they spin their pens. Throughout, heightened sound effects and pop songs lend the entire video a jokey edge that keeps viewers entranced, chuckling with both delight and discomfort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13956242\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Two hands with green nails hold open a book against red surface\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13956242\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">‘A BETTER LIFE FOR THE WORKERS (I),’ 2021. The book is a translation of Hong Kong-based NGO Worker Empowerment’s publication of the same title. Proceeds from sales go to Chinese labor organizers and activists. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the artist; Blindspot Gallery, Hong Kong; Upstream Gallery, Amsterdam)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My advice for all of the above is to block off a solid hour to spend looking at, listening to and thinking about \u003ci>GHOST__WORLD\u003c/i>. Be sure not to miss a shiny pink-covered copy of \u003ci>A Better Life for the Workers (1)\u003c/i>, a translated 2013 text that came out of discussions in a workers’ center in Shenzhen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, you’ll be well-primed for The Lab on either April 27 or 28, when \u003ci>GHOST__WORLD: a performance for 4 dancers\u003c/i>, featuring Tracey Lindsay Chan, SanSan Kwan, Miche Wong and Áine Dorman, takes place. The performance touches on Chinese Lion Dance, the frog mothers’ synchronized routines, worker interviews and (wildcard!) those \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEG5LVXdKo&ab_channel=AngusLo\">Apple versus PC ads\u003c/a> from the mid-2000s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Liu says the choreography, which she developed with the dancers, is driven by the sense that the body is missing from every stage of technology’s creation, production and use. “The body has been deeply sidelined, which leaves it open to exploitation,” she says. “These languages never leave the body. It’s just deeply repressed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>GHOST__WORLD\u003c/em> asks: Once that repression creates enough distance, how do our hearts react? \u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>‘\u003ca href=\"https://www.slashart.org/ghost__world/\">Jen Liu: GHOST__WORLD\u003c/a>’ is on view at / (Slash, 1150 25th St., Building B, San Francisco) through Aug. 24, 2024. ‘\u003ca href=\"https://www.thelab.org/projects/2024/4/27/jen-liu-ghostworld\">GHOST__WORLD: a performance for 4 dancers\u003c/a>’ takes place at The Lab (2948 16th St., San Francisco) on April 27 at 7 p.m. and April 28 at 5 p.m.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":1057,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":16},"modified":1713544938,"excerpt":"In ‘GHOST__WORLD,’ Jen Liu summons the voices of China’s labor activists and electronics workers.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"Your Phone is Haunted","socialTitle":"Jen Liu’s ‘GHOST__WORLD’ Haunts Slash and The Lab %%page%% %%sep%% KQED","ogTitle":"Your Phone is Haunted","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"In ‘GHOST__WORLD,’ Jen Liu summons the voices of China’s labor activists and electronics workers.","title":"Jen Liu’s ‘GHOST__WORLD’ Haunts Slash and The Lab | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Your Phone is Haunted","datePublished":"2024-04-19T09:42:18-07:00","dateModified":"2024-04-19T09:42:18-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"jen-liu-ghost-world-slash-the-lab-review","status":"publish","templateType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","featuredImageType":"standard","sticky":false,"articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13956215/jen-liu-ghost-world-slash-the-lab-review","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Distance doesn’t really make the heart grow fonder. It makes it colder and harder. We can calculate that distance by our waning attention on events in faraway places, or our lack of curiosity about them. It’s present in our relationship to the objects that surround us, all of which have come \u003ci>from\u003c/i> somewhere and been made \u003ci>by\u003c/i> someone, but which we regard with indifference, as if they blipped into existence just for our use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s this distance that artist \u003ca href=\"https://jenliu.info/\">Jen Liu\u003c/a> is trying to bridge — through video work, sculpture, painting, augmented reality and dance — by summoning the ghostly presence of South China’s labor activists and female electronics workers. “If you don’t see the labor, they don’t exist,” she said at \u003ca href=\"https://vimeo.com/886619818\">a recent screening\u003c/a> at California College of the Arts. “And then they don’t suffer and you don’t have to fight for them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13956235\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2500px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487.jpg\" alt=\"White gallery with large painting, sculptures in back and freestanding wall with embedded video screen\" width=\"2500\" height=\"1875\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13956235\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487.jpg 2500w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/2024_04_15_Slash4487-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2500px) 100vw, 2500px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Installation view of ‘Jen Liu: GHOST__WORLD’ at / (Slash) in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the artist; Blindspot Gallery, Hong Kong; Upstream Gallery, Amsterdam)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Liu’s newest body of work, \u003ci>GHOST__WORLD\u003c/i>, has arrived in San Francisco as a Tanya Zimbardo-curated \u003ca href=\"https://www.slashart.org/ghost__world/\">solo show at /\u003c/a> (Slash) and two upcoming nights of \u003ca href=\"https://www.thelab.org/projects/2024/4/27/jen-liu-ghostworld\">dance performances at The Lab\u003c/a>. Informing each are Liu’s primary sources: first-hand interviews with electronics and e-waste workers, and a mixture of articles and documents, like “Precious Metals Investment Terms A to Z” and “Health Consequences of Exposure to E-Waste: A Systematic Review.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If this all sounds heavy, well, it \u003ci>is\u003c/i>. But Liu also skillfully deploys tactics of humor and beauty. The / show, for instance, is filled with frogs. Last summer, people wearing inflatable “\u003ca href=\"https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/chinese-frog-mascot\">frog mother\u003c/a>” costumes began appearing in the streets of China, selling frog balloons, issuing crisp military salutes and performing Buster Keaton-esque acts of physical comedy, both for the benefit of in-person audiences and viral online shares. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Designed by an artist frustrated with her job prospects, the frog costume appealed to Liu as a way of tying together multiple interests: the trend of “\u003ca href=\"https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%BA%BA%E5%B9%B3\">lying flat\u003c/a>,” China’s youth opting out of over-work and ambition; the precarity of economic prospects outside of factory work; and previous incarnations of political performance art. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13956236\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000.jpg\" alt=\"L: Image of hand holding phone in front of QR code, showing video on screen; R: blown glass on pedestal connected to glass on floor through black tube\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1316\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13956236\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-800x526.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-1020x671.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-160x105.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-768x505.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-1536x1011.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/AR_Glass_comp_2000-1920x1263.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">L: Jen Liu, ‘GHOST__WORLD: AUGMENTED REALITY,’ 2024; R: Jen Liu, ‘GHOST__WORLD: FROGS,’ 2024. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the artist; Blindspot Gallery, Hong Kong; Upstream Gallery, Amsterdam)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>QR codes on the show’s walls activate “embedded” videos with found social media footage of the frog mothers. (You may find yourself developing a different relationship to your phone during this show.) On the exhibition’s largest screen, a looping video cycles through several days in a CG marshland, frogs bobbing between air and water, one jumping onto the back of a plane before it flies off. Large-scale, wonderfully textured and loopily cartoonish paintings on paper merge all the imagery of the show into surreal depictions of frog eyes, an unfortunate Clippy, office-appropriate pumps and manicured nails. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the back of the gallery, blown glass blobs resembling frog heads are linked with tubes that release atomized scents (“marshy swamp, popcorn, green apple, chainsaw, exhaust, etc.”). While I didn’t catch a whiff during my opening night visit, the gently steaming arrangement did suggest a science lab gone wrong. It’s an off-kilter tone that carries through to the show’s central work, the half-hour video \u003ci>PINK SLIME CAESAR SHIFT: GOLD LOOP\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Made with a combination of CG animation and live action, \u003ci>GOLD LOOP\u003c/i> was filmed in futuristic settings in Dishui, China (about an hour outside of Shanghai), and Birmingham, UK. “In my head, they became like sister cities,” Liu says. “Again, development for who? For what? Beautiful geometric structures down to perfectly circular lakes, circular economies and circular design. But then it’s serving a kind of ghost population and creating all this toxicity for the real people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The video is haunted by circles and spheres. Chemicals depicted as gold balls are pulled out of mouths; other, larger spheres roll eerily across emptied-out architectural spaces. A woman lectures fellow workers about “circular economics” as they spin their pens. Throughout, heightened sound effects and pop songs lend the entire video a jokey edge that keeps viewers entranced, chuckling with both delight and discomfort.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13956242\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Two hands with green nails hold open a book against red surface\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13956242\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/Book_2-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">‘A BETTER LIFE FOR THE WORKERS (I),’ 2021. The book is a translation of Hong Kong-based NGO Worker Empowerment’s publication of the same title. Proceeds from sales go to Chinese labor organizers and activists. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the artist; Blindspot Gallery, Hong Kong; Upstream Gallery, Amsterdam)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My advice for all of the above is to block off a solid hour to spend looking at, listening to and thinking about \u003ci>GHOST__WORLD\u003c/i>. Be sure not to miss a shiny pink-covered copy of \u003ci>A Better Life for the Workers (1)\u003c/i>, a translated 2013 text that came out of discussions in a workers’ center in Shenzhen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, you’ll be well-primed for The Lab on either April 27 or 28, when \u003ci>GHOST__WORLD: a performance for 4 dancers\u003c/i>, featuring Tracey Lindsay Chan, SanSan Kwan, Miche Wong and Áine Dorman, takes place. The performance touches on Chinese Lion Dance, the frog mothers’ synchronized routines, worker interviews and (wildcard!) those \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEG5LVXdKo&ab_channel=AngusLo\">Apple versus PC ads\u003c/a> from the mid-2000s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Liu says the choreography, which she developed with the dancers, is driven by the sense that the body is missing from every stage of technology’s creation, production and use. “The body has been deeply sidelined, which leaves it open to exploitation,” she says. “These languages never leave the body. It’s just deeply repressed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>GHOST__WORLD\u003c/em> asks: Once that repression creates enough distance, how do our hearts react? \u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>‘\u003ca href=\"https://www.slashart.org/ghost__world/\">Jen Liu: GHOST__WORLD\u003c/a>’ is on view at / (Slash, 1150 25th St., Building B, San Francisco) through Aug. 24, 2024. ‘\u003ca href=\"https://www.thelab.org/projects/2024/4/27/jen-liu-ghostworld\">GHOST__WORLD: a performance for 4 dancers\u003c/a>’ takes place at The Lab (2948 16th St., San Francisco) on April 27 at 7 p.m. and April 28 at 5 p.m.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13956215/jen-liu-ghost-world-slash-the-lab-review","authors":["61"],"programs":["arts_140"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_966","arts_70"],"tags":["arts_5391","arts_879","arts_10278","arts_769","arts_585","arts_901"],"featImg":"arts_13956234","label":"arts_140"},"arts_13954716":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13954716","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"arts","id":"13954716","score":null,"sort":[1711986334000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"arts","term":140},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1711986334,"format":"standard","title":"San Jose Day Returns to Celebrate the 408 in Japantown","headTitle":"San Jose Day Returns to Celebrate the 408 in Japantown | KQED","content":"\u003cp>When Haley Cardamon interviewed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13950855/underground-rap-playa-sht-political-joints-equipto-has-bars\">rapper and activist Equipto\u003c/a> in 2016, she was inspired by how hard he repped his hometown of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cardamon — at the time a community college student running a local arts publication, \u003ca href=\"https://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/projects/80940-bay-area-creatives-klub-magazine\">\u003ci>B.A.C.K Magazine\u003c/i>\u003c/a> — learned from the Filipino lyricist about \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13895377/rightnowish-baghead-cerealforthekids\">415 Day\u003c/a>, a celebratory gathering for San Franciscans to uplift one another. The event officially debuted that same year at Dolores Park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As someone born and raised in San Jose’s East Side and downtown neighborhoods, Cardamon realized the hometown she loved didn’t have any equivalent. “Girl, you could do it,” Cardamon recalls Equipto telling her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s how San Jose Day, formerly known as 408 Day, was born, with its first iteration held downtown in 2017. It gained traction and continued annually until 2020, when the event was shut down by the pandemic. It made its return in 2023.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j793qAWhjqA\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This year, the event is back and bigger than ever. Feeling reinvigorated, Cardamon believes San Jose is primed for a cultural renaissance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ll be honest, I don’t have a big interest in going to San Francisco and Oakland,” Cardamon says. “San Jose has so much going on. It’s very creative, and our culture has blossomed and grown in a way where people are collaborative and respectful of each other’s lanes. We survive in one of the toughest cities to make a living, and we hustle for each other.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 6th Annual San Jose Day will include live music, food vendors, Aztec and folklórico dancers, educational awareness groups, gallery artists and more. Among them, Cardamon is especially proud of the \u003ca href=\"https://siliconvalleydownsyndromenetwork.wildapricot.org/\">Silicon Valley Down Syndrome Network\u003c/a>, which is hosting a Japanese Taiko performance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m excited about that; I’ve never seen a festival host a special needs group of youth doing a performance,” says Cardamon. “And everyone’s getting paid. That’s special to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13954723\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1600px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13954723\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize.jpg\" alt=\"a musical performer is on stage in front of a large audience in San Jose\" width=\"1600\" height=\"900\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize.jpg 1600w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-768x432.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A San Jose performer captivates the crowd during San Jose Day in 2023. \u003ccite>(Alex Knowbody)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Cardamon is a San Jose ride-or-die advocate. Having experienced housing insecurity during the 2008 recession in the city as a youth, she’s intimately familiar with the region’s struggles and the often inaccessible pathways for artists to thrive. That’s especially true in Silicon Valley, where tech innovation frequently eclipses the work of art innovators — both economically and culturally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Cardamon herself, the event has roamed around San Jose’s diverse communities. It’s been held in the Gordon Biersch lot in downtown San Jose as well as the famed Mexican Heritage Plaza on Alum Rock Avenue. On April 6, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/empire7studios/?hl=en\">Empire Seven Studios\u003c/a> in Japantown — \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13952476/san-jose-japantown-photo-night-cukui\">which has a bubbling creative scene\u003c/a> — hosts this year’s edition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Having brought in more than 7,500 attendees last year, Cardamon feels a surging momentum in her city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cSIPpBz9Q\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The energy was vividly euphoric and positive, so much love,” says Cardamon of last year’s festivities. “It was a pivotal moment for our event to know, and people were like ‘Oh shit, we’ve never heard of it before.’ We had over 98 artists involved. That made me realize I could do this. I want to give more of myself to this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cardamon is in the process of finalizing her 501(c)(3) status as a nonprofit, and has also developed an arts and culture board to review applications for participating artists, vendors and community members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though not quite yet at the level of recognition as 415 Day or 510 Day, San Jose Day — in the hub of the Bay Area’s most populous county — is bound to keep growing. And as it does, Cardamon will be at the center, waving her San Jose flag.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sanjoseday.org/sjd2024\">San Jose Day\u003c/a> takes place on Saturday, April 6, from noon–6 p.m., at 525 N. 7th St., San Jose. Entry is free. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sanjoseday.org/sjd2024\">Details here\u003c/a>.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n","stats":{"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":704,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":18},"modified":1712082255,"excerpt":"This year’s edition of the cultural festival takes place in San Jose’s thriving Japantown.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"This year’s edition of the cultural festival takes place in San Jose’s thriving Japantown.","title":"San Jose Day Returns to Celebrate the 408 in Japantown | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"San Jose Day Returns to Celebrate the 408 in Japantown","datePublished":"2024-04-01T08:45:34-07:00","dateModified":"2024-04-02T11:24:15-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"san-jose-day-returns-to-celebrate-the-408","status":"publish","templateType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","featuredImageType":"standard","sticky":false,"articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13954716/san-jose-day-returns-to-celebrate-the-408","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>When Haley Cardamon interviewed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13950855/underground-rap-playa-sht-political-joints-equipto-has-bars\">rapper and activist Equipto\u003c/a> in 2016, she was inspired by how hard he repped his hometown of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cardamon — at the time a community college student running a local arts publication, \u003ca href=\"https://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/projects/80940-bay-area-creatives-klub-magazine\">\u003ci>B.A.C.K Magazine\u003c/i>\u003c/a> — learned from the Filipino lyricist about \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13895377/rightnowish-baghead-cerealforthekids\">415 Day\u003c/a>, a celebratory gathering for San Franciscans to uplift one another. The event officially debuted that same year at Dolores Park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As someone born and raised in San Jose’s East Side and downtown neighborhoods, Cardamon realized the hometown she loved didn’t have any equivalent. “Girl, you could do it,” Cardamon recalls Equipto telling her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s how San Jose Day, formerly known as 408 Day, was born, with its first iteration held downtown in 2017. It gained traction and continued annually until 2020, when the event was shut down by the pandemic. It made its return in 2023.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/j793qAWhjqA'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/j793qAWhjqA'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This year, the event is back and bigger than ever. Feeling reinvigorated, Cardamon believes San Jose is primed for a cultural renaissance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ll be honest, I don’t have a big interest in going to San Francisco and Oakland,” Cardamon says. “San Jose has so much going on. It’s very creative, and our culture has blossomed and grown in a way where people are collaborative and respectful of each other’s lanes. We survive in one of the toughest cities to make a living, and we hustle for each other.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 6th Annual San Jose Day will include live music, food vendors, Aztec and folklórico dancers, educational awareness groups, gallery artists and more. Among them, Cardamon is especially proud of the \u003ca href=\"https://siliconvalleydownsyndromenetwork.wildapricot.org/\">Silicon Valley Down Syndrome Network\u003c/a>, which is hosting a Japanese Taiko performance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m excited about that; I’ve never seen a festival host a special needs group of youth doing a performance,” says Cardamon. “And everyone’s getting paid. That’s special to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13954723\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1600px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13954723\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize.jpg\" alt=\"a musical performer is on stage in front of a large audience in San Jose\" width=\"1600\" height=\"900\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize.jpg 1600w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-768x432.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/03/SJD2023_FullSet-340_websize-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A San Jose performer captivates the crowd during San Jose Day in 2023. \u003ccite>(Alex Knowbody)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Cardamon is a San Jose ride-or-die advocate. Having experienced housing insecurity during the 2008 recession in the city as a youth, she’s intimately familiar with the region’s struggles and the often inaccessible pathways for artists to thrive. That’s especially true in Silicon Valley, where tech innovation frequently eclipses the work of art innovators — both economically and culturally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like Cardamon herself, the event has roamed around San Jose’s diverse communities. It’s been held in the Gordon Biersch lot in downtown San Jose as well as the famed Mexican Heritage Plaza on Alum Rock Avenue. On April 6, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/empire7studios/?hl=en\">Empire Seven Studios\u003c/a> in Japantown — \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13952476/san-jose-japantown-photo-night-cukui\">which has a bubbling creative scene\u003c/a> — hosts this year’s edition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Having brought in more than 7,500 attendees last year, Cardamon feels a surging momentum in her city.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/X9cSIPpBz9Q'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/X9cSIPpBz9Q'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The energy was vividly euphoric and positive, so much love,” says Cardamon of last year’s festivities. “It was a pivotal moment for our event to know, and people were like ‘Oh shit, we’ve never heard of it before.’ We had over 98 artists involved. That made me realize I could do this. I want to give more of myself to this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cardamon is in the process of finalizing her 501(c)(3) status as a nonprofit, and has also developed an arts and culture board to review applications for participating artists, vendors and community members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though not quite yet at the level of recognition as 415 Day or 510 Day, San Jose Day — in the hub of the Bay Area’s most populous county — is bound to keep growing. And as it does, Cardamon will be at the center, waving her San Jose flag.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sanjoseday.org/sjd2024\">San Jose Day\u003c/a> takes place on Saturday, April 6, from noon–6 p.m., at 525 N. 7th St., San Jose. Entry is free. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sanjoseday.org/sjd2024\">Details here\u003c/a>.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13954716/san-jose-day-returns-to-celebrate-the-408","authors":["11748"],"programs":["arts_140"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_835","arts_966","arts_69"],"tags":["arts_8167","arts_5684","arts_879","arts_14294","arts_1084","arts_3001","arts_2475","arts_585"],"featImg":"arts_13954721","label":"arts_140"},"arts_13953995":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13953995","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"arts","id":"13953995","score":null,"sort":[1710355425000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"arts"},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1710355425,"format":"aside","title":"Jess Curtis, Choreographer and Accessibility Champion, Has Died","headTitle":"Jess Curtis, Choreographer and Accessibility Champion, Has Died | KQED","content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13921238\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13921238\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-800x1200.jpg\" alt=\"Jess Curtis, a white man with short white hair and a black T-shirt, looks into the camera.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1200\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-800x1200.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-1020x1530.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-160x240.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-768x1152.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-1365x2048.jpg 1365w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-1920x2880.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-scaled.jpg 1707w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jess Curtis championed accessibility in the performing arts for blind and visually impaired people. \u003ccite>(Sven Hagolani)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Dancer and choreographer Jess Curtis, a champion of accessibility in the performing arts, has died, according to \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/C4ceCmKx3m7/?hl=en\">an announcement\u003c/a> on Instagram from his sister Jenene, close collaborator Keith Hennessy and several others. On Instagram, Hennessy posted that Curtis collapsed from an apparent heart issue during a bike ride in San Francisco on March 11 and passed away unexpectedly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Jess’ community of friends and peers is deep and wide,” the statement reads. “The positive impact of his creative work will be felt for years. Earlier that same day Jess expressed gratitude for the wonderful life and network of friends he was enjoying. We are all in shock and deep grief.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Curtis had been a major figure in dance for decades. In 2000, he founded the company Gravity, which has brought critically acclaimed performances to 60 cities and 13 countries, and became a crucial platform for the art form in San Francisco and Berlin. In 2017, Curtis launched Gravity Access Services, a leader in accessibility for the performing arts, especially for blind and visually impaired audiences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been really interested in finding ways that allow people to experience dance-based performance not just by looking at it,” Curtis \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13812697/dances-you-dont-have-to-see-to-appreciate\">told KQED that year\u003c/a>, “but by feeling it whooshing past you, and hearing the performers, describing what’s happening, in poetic ways.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[\u003cstrong>Watch:\u003c/strong> Jess Curtis \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/spark/jess-curtis/\">explains his creative process\u003c/a> in a 2015 episode of KQED’s ‘Spark*.’]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gravity Access Services’ offerings include live, creative audio descriptions of what takes place on stage, haptic tours that invite blind and visually impaired people to feel a performance space before the show, and consulting on accessibility in show logistics and marketing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Gravity was really my main entrance into dance because a lot of dancers or disabled people aren’t welcome in traditional training [spaces],” dancer and Gravity Access Services consultant \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13921184/jess-curtis-gravity-dance-accessibility-disability-justice\">Tiffany Taylor told KQED in 2022\u003c/a>. “Jess turned the table and said, ‘You are welcome on this stage.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most recently, in November 2023, Gravity’s performance \u003cem>Into the Dark\u003c/em> at CounterPulse invited audiences into a nearly dark space where narration and occasional, sparse light conveyed a dance performance that \u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em> critic Rachel Howard described as both “profoundly discomforting” and “surprisingly life-affirming.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Keith Hennessy’s Instagram post, dancers and friends responded with an outpouring of love for Curtis as an artist, mentor and friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s important to express gratitude for his immense support of my practice and many others. It would be no exaggeration to say that he helped me be the person I am today,” wrote artist Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m at a loss. Jess was such an amazing performer, choreographer and leader. So vibrant and full of life on his bicycle, brilliant in the studio, and a delightful, marvelously aware presence to chop it up with,” wrote Ted Russell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Plans for a memorial will be announced.\u003c/p>\n\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":531,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":14},"modified":1710875529,"excerpt":"The visionary artist pushed boundaries to make dance accessible to blind and visually impaired audiences. 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","title":"Jess Curtis, Choreographer and Accessibility Champion, Has Died | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Jess Curtis, Choreographer and Accessibility Champion, Has Died","datePublished":"2024-03-13T11:43:45-07:00","dateModified":"2024-03-19T12:12:09-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"jess-curtis-choreographer-accessibility-champion-dance-obituary","status":"publish","templateType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","featuredImageType":"standard","sticky":false,"articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13953995/jess-curtis-choreographer-accessibility-champion-dance-obituary","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13921238\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13921238\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-800x1200.jpg\" alt=\"Jess Curtis, a white man with short white hair and a black T-shirt, looks into the camera.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1200\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-800x1200.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-1020x1530.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-160x240.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-768x1152.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-1365x2048.jpg 1365w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-1920x2880.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/Jess-Curtis-photo-by-Sven-Hagolani-scaled.jpg 1707w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jess Curtis championed accessibility in the performing arts for blind and visually impaired people. \u003ccite>(Sven Hagolani)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Dancer and choreographer Jess Curtis, a champion of accessibility in the performing arts, has died, according to \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/C4ceCmKx3m7/?hl=en\">an announcement\u003c/a> on Instagram from his sister Jenene, close collaborator Keith Hennessy and several others. On Instagram, Hennessy posted that Curtis collapsed from an apparent heart issue during a bike ride in San Francisco on March 11 and passed away unexpectedly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Jess’ community of friends and peers is deep and wide,” the statement reads. “The positive impact of his creative work will be felt for years. Earlier that same day Jess expressed gratitude for the wonderful life and network of friends he was enjoying. We are all in shock and deep grief.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Curtis had been a major figure in dance for decades. In 2000, he founded the company Gravity, which has brought critically acclaimed performances to 60 cities and 13 countries, and became a crucial platform for the art form in San Francisco and Berlin. In 2017, Curtis launched Gravity Access Services, a leader in accessibility for the performing arts, especially for blind and visually impaired audiences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been really interested in finding ways that allow people to experience dance-based performance not just by looking at it,” Curtis \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13812697/dances-you-dont-have-to-see-to-appreciate\">told KQED that year\u003c/a>, “but by feeling it whooshing past you, and hearing the performers, describing what’s happening, in poetic ways.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[\u003cstrong>Watch:\u003c/strong> Jess Curtis \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/spark/jess-curtis/\">explains his creative process\u003c/a> in a 2015 episode of KQED’s ‘Spark*.’]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gravity Access Services’ offerings include live, creative audio descriptions of what takes place on stage, haptic tours that invite blind and visually impaired people to feel a performance space before the show, and consulting on accessibility in show logistics and marketing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Gravity was really my main entrance into dance because a lot of dancers or disabled people aren’t welcome in traditional training [spaces],” dancer and Gravity Access Services consultant \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13921184/jess-curtis-gravity-dance-accessibility-disability-justice\">Tiffany Taylor told KQED in 2022\u003c/a>. “Jess turned the table and said, ‘You are welcome on this stage.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most recently, in November 2023, Gravity’s performance \u003cem>Into the Dark\u003c/em> at CounterPulse invited audiences into a nearly dark space where narration and occasional, sparse light conveyed a dance performance that \u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em> critic Rachel Howard described as both “profoundly discomforting” and “surprisingly life-affirming.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Keith Hennessy’s Instagram post, dancers and friends responded with an outpouring of love for Curtis as an artist, mentor and friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s important to express gratitude for his immense support of my practice and many others. It would be no exaggeration to say that he helped me be the person I am today,” wrote artist Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m at a loss. Jess was such an amazing performer, choreographer and leader. So vibrant and full of life on his bicycle, brilliant in the studio, and a delightful, marvelously aware presence to chop it up with,” wrote Ted Russell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Plans for a memorial will be announced.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13953995/jess-curtis-choreographer-accessibility-champion-dance-obituary","authors":["11387"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_235","arts_1564"],"tags":["arts_879","arts_9693","arts_10342","arts_10278"],"featImg":"arts_13954027","label":"arts"},"arts_13940111":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13940111","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"arts","id":"13940111","score":null,"sort":[1704970807000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"arts","term":8720},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1704970807,"format":"audio","title":"From Buskin’ on BART to Teaching Turfin’","headTitle":"From Buskin’ on BART to Teaching Turfin’ | KQED","content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“T\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">urfin’ is a way of life for me,” says \u003c/span>Telice Summerfield, a dancer who has the ability turn a BART platform into a stage where she can glide, tut, bend and bone break on beat. She exchanges energy with onlookers; they get entertained and she gets empowered. The dance is an art. It’s also a political act, as she takes up space at will.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Turf, \u003c/a>an acronym that stands for “taking up room on the floor,” is a style of dance that’s native to Oakland. During the hyphy movement of the early 2000s, the moves people were doing at house parties and in music videos left an indelible impression on Telice, as a youngster growing up in South Sacramento. When she was a teenager, her mother would drive her to functions in the Bay Area so she could be a part of the action. And as a young adult attending UC Berkeley, Telice found a home in Oakland’s turf dancing community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13940115\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13940115 size-medium\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Telice Summerfield's hair swings as she gigs in the center of a crowd during a recent battle.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Telice Summerfield’s hair swings as she gigs in the center of a crowd during a recent battle. \u003ccite>(Amy Marie Elmer / Artful Eye Studios)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Through this community, Telice has built a career in dance. Last year alone she hosted the 2023 Red Bull Dance Your Style Competition, taught turf dancing to young folks at an elementary school in West Oakland, and led lessons on dance at the Oakland Museum of California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today we discuss how the hyphy movement opened her eyes to the arts as a child, how her experience at UC Berkeley exposed her to inequalities on campus as a young adult, and what dancing on BART has taught her about sociology. Now that Telice is a known name in the dancing world, she also gives us some insight on her plans to take the culture even further.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClfT3U6Dw3_/\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC7950103605&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw, host:\u003c/strong> Hey, what’s up family, welcome to Rightnowish. I’m your host, Pendarvis Harshaw, sliding in the studio to bring you a story that’s for sure going to get you moving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re an avid BART rider, chances are you’ve seen folks dancing on the train to make a lil change. The style of dance most people do on BART is T.U.R.F. Dancing, a type of dance that emerged from Oakland in the late 90s and early 2000s. It was popularized during the hyphy movement, and in many ways it carried the culture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More than just going dumb, T.U.R.F. Dancing is about the smooth footwork, pantomiming and making facial expressions. It’s about the bone-breaking, tutting, and pop-locking. It’s storytelling on beat, and being player about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week we’re talking to Telice Summerfield, a T.U.R.F. dancer who takes the meaning behind the acronym T.U.R.F.– taking up room on the floor– seriously.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Originally from South Sacramento, Telice was a kid when the hyphy movement kicked off. But she took note of it all: the good, the bad, and the dance moves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And since then she’s gone on to teach dance classes in schools, host events at the Oakland Museum of California, and shine on stage at Red Bull’s Dance Your Style competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re lucky enough to get on the right BART train, you’ll find Telice going from station to station, giggin’, doing bone-breaking contortions, and acrobatic moves as she performs on public transit. It’s because of this work ethic and talent that Telice’s name now rings bells in the Bay and beyond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today on Rightnowish, Telice shares a bit about her upbringing in Sacramento, her affection for the Town and how she’s T.U.R.F. danced all over Northern California– carrying the hyphy flag with her, and keeping the culture lit for the next generation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of that and more, right after this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What’s your earliest memory of turf dancing, when was the first time you saw it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> So when I was 11, my.. I want to call her my cousin, but she really like my little brother’s auntie. She were not, like, blood re-. Anyways, she threw a party. I want to say she was like a junior or senior in high school, and she threw a big ass party right there in Meadowview and it was so lit. It was like my first function. And in there they was fuckin wit’ it they was turfin’. And Iike it just was… it so lit. It was like one of the most hyphiest young moments of my life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By, like, my junior year of high school, I was like ditching school to go to the battles or I would like, leave whatever school event. I was into extracurriculars, very studious, very smart. But I would be leaving the school shit to go dance because that’s really where my heart was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> During that time period, we have this thing called the hyphy movement. And through that, it furthered the cultural identity of Northern California hip hop. And it spoke to you in Sacramento. You latched on to it. What was it about the hyphy movement that spoke to you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Oh, my goodness. I felt a sense of like, ‘ooh, that’s me.’ Like, it was just like a sense of resonance, you know? Um, it allowed me to be free.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the hyphy movement and with hyphy culture and like just the energy behind it, there’s a sense of like, relief and freedom and like, “Oh, you don’t actually got to sit like this and eat like this and do this.” And there’s no supposed to. You know, you could just like fuck with it, you feel me. And like it was very electric for me. Like I will always turn up. The Federation was my favorite. And whenever I felt constrained by rules or by circumstance or by um, obstacles, I could always turn on some hyphy slaps and it would just be lit like, I just would feel better, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> Something that I really wanted to touch on, is the fact that your mother would drive you and sometimes even your siblings to functions in Oakland so that you could dance. What did her belief in you do for you as a burgeoning dancer?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> She would do all of that sacrificing, and mind you she was like… the battles back in the day was like 25 dollars, maybe 20, 25 dollars. And she couldn’t afford to get us all if she would drive all the way from Sac, maybe with my siblings in a car, if they was around, if not, they was at home or whatever. But they would all wait outside for me and she would pay for me to get into battles and wait hours, hours for me to just be exposed, like maybe, maybe not cypher, maybe, maybe not meet a few people. You know what I mean?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like, I was a lot more reserved and a lot less confident at the time, and so she would go the extra mile just for me to have the exposure to what I love most. And for me, like, especially in hindsight, I can never pay her back for that. You know, it’s like an investment that, like, she really believes in me and it’s paid off. You know, I’m able to pay my bills now off of dance, just off of me being who I am. And like, that’s a blessing. That is… that’s irreplaceable. You know, you can’t put a price tag on that. So, her investment in me way back when just showed me that she believed in whatever I decide to do, she gon’ stand ten toes behind me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> That’s beautiful. As a parent I know that that’s something that, yeah, you kind of live through your child in a lot of ways. And… and so seeing you pursue your dreams and be successful, I’m sure she’s proud of you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Something I got to get here because this is an important part of your story. You get into UC Berkeley, you move to the Bay Area. You study social welfare as well as Spanish, and at the same time you weren’t all the way feeling what UC Berkeley was in terms of the social life on campus. So you ended up in Oakland. What did Oakland provide for you as an outlet during that time period?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Oakland provided a sense of like home. Like it didn’t feel like there were as many social expectations or regulations. Racism wasn’t as heavy as it was in Berkeley. My craft held more weight in Oakland, you know, like I feel like my… I could take my craft to Oakland anywhere, you know, especially on the trains. Well, like, anywhere really and be recognized for what I do and, like, really be affirmed in what I do. Whereas like in Berkeley, it just was like, “Oh, that’s cool,” you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> Very much so. I went to Berkeley for grad school. Similar situation where on Fridays I would drop my backpack off and just be in the town and I… It was a release, I could breathe again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> And that’s a lot of the reason why I would either if I was in Berkeley, I was either at home, in class, or on my way to the BART.\u003cem> [chuckles]\u003c/em> Like, I was never really kickin’ it in Berkeley. I never really was fucking with the parties like that, like none of that, because I didn’t feel a sense of belonging. I didn’t feel like there was room for, like, real black girls, like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Berkeley is well known for its political activism, its progressive activism, but there also still exists a lot of hegemony and hierarchy in that arena just to even have access to it, you know. So I felt that a lot and just Oakland gave me an escape. It gave me access to myself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> That makes perfect sense then. And that investment in yourself paid dividends. You furthered your community. You met folks who were into dance just like you were. You met my best friend in the world, Jesus.. Zeus El, who’s a legendary turf dancer. And so I’ve known Zeus since seventh grade, and I’ve seen him develop this turf dance family kind of from the outside. You know, I know a lot of the people, but I’m not a dancer, so I’m not in it. And so I’m wondering, what is it like being inside of that turf dancing family?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> First of all, shout out to Zeus. I love him so much. That’s big bro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He’s incredible. He takes everybody in with open arms. And that’s not the case for all the turfers. And that’s not… that’s not our general standard of embracing people. You know, a lot of times people have to earn it. But he just like, welcomed me and I just- I’m so grateful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Being inside of that family is like it’s very nuanced. Like there’s very, very high highs and the lows really kick you in your ass and there’s a lot of politics too, that are not easily, uh, legible to an onlooker, right or somebody who just whose perspective is from the outside in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s very critical that we stay connected, even if we don’t see eye to eye or even if we don’t agree on a topic. Being in that family is not easy, but Zeus made it a lot easier. Like I met, he was one of the first people I met in my first, like, day of being in Berkeley by myself without my family, you know. Like I went to the gym and I went to go flip with him. And that also gave me a sense of myself because I’ve been an athlete for a long time. And it just reminded me like, there’s not… you don’t have to separate your identity into categories, like they can all blend and serve your purpose for who you are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> You came out and you stole the show at a KQED event. We were honoring dancers from… basically 100 years worth of dancing told through this show. And toward the end, we invited folks to come up on stage and start hittin it, and you came out there, giggin, you knew a little bit of everybody and folks knew you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Being integral to what I love most has earned me the opportunity of getting to be who I am authentically, everywhere I go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you see me interacting with people and you see me like…. Like you said, I knew a little bit of everybody. Someone that I met from years ago in school could be at a KQED event and remember me or recognize me. Right. Or someone that I met through a village auntie can be at another event and remember me. You know what I mean? And so I think just like, developing authentic relationships and being authentic to who I am has allowed me to earn my name and earn like the…honor behind it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> You mentioned dancing in different places and people knowing you from the different hats that you wear. Do you have a different approach when you’re dancing on big stages or community events or even on BART?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Dancing on big stages is really fun. It’s really fun because the support is for the most part, it’s overwhelming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> It allows me to expose the culture to a larger amount of people and the way that I do it, is unique because I wasn’t here, you know, I wasn’t in the Town in 2006, 2007, 2008, right? So the way that I do it has to be genuine to who I am.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It feels empowering to dance on BART because I know that I can always feed myself off my craft, you know? But there’s… there’s, like, nuances, right? Like, there’s the good with the bad. Like, BART is not the cleanest place to be hustling. It’s not the cleanest place to be dancing, you know? So I don’t sit down when I’m dancing on BART. Like I don’t sit down on BART, period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most people who see dancers on BART, they rarely see girls. They rarely see girls who are raw. I don’t know, I don’t even really see girls like that and I be out there! So, like…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turfing in itself is taken up from on a floor, right? And it’s like radical, it’s political. It’s not- it’s not just dance moves Like you can feel it, it pierces you, you know, And whether I’m dancing on BART, whether I’m dancing in a battle, whether I’m dancing at first Friday, whether I’m dancing at a music festival, like people can feel that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> That’s dope, Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> And, in terms of that validity in developing community and reaching folks during the pandemic, BART ridership took a dive. You pivoted and started doing work online. You developed a dance club called “Pussy Power Dance” and it became popular. Why do you think folks latched onto it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Well, I created Pussy Power out of a deficit of platform, right. Each month I would host a IG live session and it would last for about an hour and I would invite girls to come and perform on Pussy Power and, um, they would take 3 to 5 minutes to dance and they would just showcase. And I made it a showcase on purpose so that it was more open to all level styles, backgrounds, like I didn’t want it to feel like a competition or like a battle or like you’re going against all these girls in the live, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I think that people latched on to it because they probably felt the same way and also because they saw how unifying it was from like, the barriers of time, space, language, level of dance, and any other constraints that could keep us away from each other, they- those obstacles didn’t limit us when we were on pussy power. So like, every episode was so inspiring, and all the girls were like, ‘oh my goodness!’ It was just so cool.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To me, giving back is a part of why I do everything that I do. Like I want everyone to walk away with something, even if it’s inspiration or hopefully it’s tangible. And so through Pussy Power, even though there was all these dimensions that kept us apart, I still was able to give back in tangible ways and that made it more popular.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> It’s something, you seem like you’ve etched out a career path. Now you’re working in education as well, teaching young folks dance in West Oakland. Tell me more about your day job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> My day job is teaching dance at an elementary school in West Oakland. And I teach from preschool up until fourth grade. Basically, there’s two classes of each grade and each class like, circulates through my class,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In my class we do, like it’s not elite dancing at all, you know, it’s not like it’s not “traditional” what traditional dance classes would look like, where like they’re learning a choreography and then they’re doing the choreography, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s more of like embracing movement as a creative expression of empowerment. You know, it’s like confidence building. It’s like them embracing that dance culture is really fun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What I do, like, my role is to, like, uplift them and empower them and like, show them like, even if you don’t feel like the best dancer in the world, you can still come touch the stage and show some poses. And, you know, you can walk down a Soul Train line like the queen that you are. And so that allows them to share information of movement with each other, um, back and forth and just like embrace each other, you know, really see each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> And then beyond that, you also do workshops with folks of all ages through the Oakland Museum of California. What’s that experience been like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> The Oakland Museum, shout out to them. I love them so much. The workshop that I taught recently, it did have a diverse age group and I’m grateful for that because the movement and the information that I have to offer. I do want it to be accessible to everyone. And so I hosted a dance workshop on the front steps in the front patio of the Oakland Museum. And at first it was like only a few people. And like, there was some people who were feeling shy so they just wanted to watch. And then there are some people who are like, “Yeah, I’ll do it..I come fuck with y’all.” But by the end of the class it was like a good 15, 20 people and they all like, “Yeah!” You know, they’re all really excited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I like to end with uh, activities, games, you know, dance circles, things like that, because it… it’s not so like… accomplished-based. It’s actually about how you feel because it’s not just a dance move. It’s not just a dance style. It’s like a… It’s a feeling, you know what I mean? It’s like a… it’s like a radical act, it’s a radical practice. So people feel that when they’re in my classes, in my space, learning from me, they always leave with smiles. And that just makes me feel like, oh my goodness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> You’re doing the work. You’re doing the work. And it’s, I mean, the smiles and also like having income based on it, being able to make a living off of dance, that’s a sign that you’re on the right path. With that said, why do you personally think it’s important to pass down these lessons to the next generation?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Several reasons, I really in my heart, I know that if we don’t pay it forward, the culture will die, like, just period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> You know, and so, I really, as someone who’s really passionate about it and who cares about this a lot and like who makes a living and defines my path with this turfin’ shit, like turfing is a way of life for me. And as someone who uses this practice as a way of life, it’s critical to pass it down. It’s critical to pay it forward. So that way I’m not always… the burden isn’t always on me to keep this alive. Like, you know, it’s not just on any of us. Like we have a whole ‘nother generation of people who are emerging and maybe they can do a little bit more with this practice, with this community than we were able to do. You know, maybe they can reach farther than we were able to reach, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like there’s a lot of people around the world who want to learn turfing, you know, and we have it. It’s not like we’re not capable. There’s just some disconnects that I want to, like, connect so that not only I can get paid boucou money to travel the world, to teach and learn turfing. But my peers and my… my youngins can also do the same and see tangible opportunity from this, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> Everybody eats, B.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Everybody eats. Everybody walks away with something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> I want to give a huge shoutout to Telice Summerfield. You’ve found your path, and you’ve simultaneously carried the culture with you! Thank you. Thank you for taking it even further!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You all can follow her on Instagram at tuuhleacee spelled T-U-U-H-L-E-A-C-E-E. And that’s the best way to stay updated on Telice’s upcoming performances, classes and more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This episode was hosted by me, Pendarvis Harshaw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was produced by Marisol Medina-Cadena and Sheree Bishop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chris Hambrick is our editor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Christopher Beale is our engineer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additional support provided by Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña, Ugur Dursun and Holly Kernan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you liked this episode, please share it with a friend, or write a review on your favorite podcast platform. It helps more people find us. 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She exchanges energy with onlookers; they get entertained and she gets empowered. The dance is an art. It’s also a political act, as she takes up space at will.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Turf, \u003c/a>an acronym that stands for “taking up room on the floor,” is a style of dance that’s native to Oakland. During the hyphy movement of the early 2000s, the moves people were doing at house parties and in music videos left an indelible impression on Telice, as a youngster growing up in South Sacramento. When she was a teenager, her mother would drive her to functions in the Bay Area so she could be a part of the action. And as a young adult attending UC Berkeley, Telice found a home in Oakland’s turf dancing community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13940115\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13940115 size-medium\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Telice Summerfield's hair swings as she gigs in the center of a crowd during a recent battle.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/1-3.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Telice Summerfield’s hair swings as she gigs in the center of a crowd during a recent battle. \u003ccite>(Amy Marie Elmer / Artful Eye Studios)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Through this community, Telice has built a career in dance. Last year alone she hosted the 2023 Red Bull Dance Your Style Competition, taught turf dancing to young folks at an elementary school in West Oakland, and led lessons on dance at the Oakland Museum of California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today we discuss how the hyphy movement opened her eyes to the arts as a child, how her experience at UC Berkeley exposed her to inequalities on campus as a young adult, and what dancing on BART has taught her about sociology. Now that Telice is a known name in the dancing world, she also gives us some insight on her plans to take the culture even further.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramUrl":"https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClfT3U6Dw3_/"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC7950103605&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw, host:\u003c/strong> Hey, what’s up family, welcome to Rightnowish. I’m your host, Pendarvis Harshaw, sliding in the studio to bring you a story that’s for sure going to get you moving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re an avid BART rider, chances are you’ve seen folks dancing on the train to make a lil change. The style of dance most people do on BART is T.U.R.F. Dancing, a type of dance that emerged from Oakland in the late 90s and early 2000s. It was popularized during the hyphy movement, and in many ways it carried the culture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More than just going dumb, T.U.R.F. Dancing is about the smooth footwork, pantomiming and making facial expressions. It’s about the bone-breaking, tutting, and pop-locking. It’s storytelling on beat, and being player about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week we’re talking to Telice Summerfield, a T.U.R.F. dancer who takes the meaning behind the acronym T.U.R.F.– taking up room on the floor– seriously.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Originally from South Sacramento, Telice was a kid when the hyphy movement kicked off. But she took note of it all: the good, the bad, and the dance moves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And since then she’s gone on to teach dance classes in schools, host events at the Oakland Museum of California, and shine on stage at Red Bull’s Dance Your Style competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re lucky enough to get on the right BART train, you’ll find Telice going from station to station, giggin’, doing bone-breaking contortions, and acrobatic moves as she performs on public transit. It’s because of this work ethic and talent that Telice’s name now rings bells in the Bay and beyond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today on Rightnowish, Telice shares a bit about her upbringing in Sacramento, her affection for the Town and how she’s T.U.R.F. danced all over Northern California– carrying the hyphy flag with her, and keeping the culture lit for the next generation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of that and more, right after this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What’s your earliest memory of turf dancing, when was the first time you saw it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> So when I was 11, my.. I want to call her my cousin, but she really like my little brother’s auntie. She were not, like, blood re-. Anyways, she threw a party. I want to say she was like a junior or senior in high school, and she threw a big ass party right there in Meadowview and it was so lit. It was like my first function. And in there they was fuckin wit’ it they was turfin’. And Iike it just was… it so lit. It was like one of the most hyphiest young moments of my life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By, like, my junior year of high school, I was like ditching school to go to the battles or I would like, leave whatever school event. I was into extracurriculars, very studious, very smart. But I would be leaving the school shit to go dance because that’s really where my heart was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> During that time period, we have this thing called the hyphy movement. And through that, it furthered the cultural identity of Northern California hip hop. And it spoke to you in Sacramento. You latched on to it. What was it about the hyphy movement that spoke to you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Oh, my goodness. I felt a sense of like, ‘ooh, that’s me.’ Like, it was just like a sense of resonance, you know? Um, it allowed me to be free.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the hyphy movement and with hyphy culture and like just the energy behind it, there’s a sense of like, relief and freedom and like, “Oh, you don’t actually got to sit like this and eat like this and do this.” And there’s no supposed to. You know, you could just like fuck with it, you feel me. And like it was very electric for me. Like I will always turn up. The Federation was my favorite. And whenever I felt constrained by rules or by circumstance or by um, obstacles, I could always turn on some hyphy slaps and it would just be lit like, I just would feel better, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> Something that I really wanted to touch on, is the fact that your mother would drive you and sometimes even your siblings to functions in Oakland so that you could dance. What did her belief in you do for you as a burgeoning dancer?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> She would do all of that sacrificing, and mind you she was like… the battles back in the day was like 25 dollars, maybe 20, 25 dollars. And she couldn’t afford to get us all if she would drive all the way from Sac, maybe with my siblings in a car, if they was around, if not, they was at home or whatever. But they would all wait outside for me and she would pay for me to get into battles and wait hours, hours for me to just be exposed, like maybe, maybe not cypher, maybe, maybe not meet a few people. You know what I mean?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like, I was a lot more reserved and a lot less confident at the time, and so she would go the extra mile just for me to have the exposure to what I love most. And for me, like, especially in hindsight, I can never pay her back for that. You know, it’s like an investment that, like, she really believes in me and it’s paid off. You know, I’m able to pay my bills now off of dance, just off of me being who I am. And like, that’s a blessing. That is… that’s irreplaceable. You know, you can’t put a price tag on that. So, her investment in me way back when just showed me that she believed in whatever I decide to do, she gon’ stand ten toes behind me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> That’s beautiful. As a parent I know that that’s something that, yeah, you kind of live through your child in a lot of ways. And… and so seeing you pursue your dreams and be successful, I’m sure she’s proud of you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Something I got to get here because this is an important part of your story. You get into UC Berkeley, you move to the Bay Area. You study social welfare as well as Spanish, and at the same time you weren’t all the way feeling what UC Berkeley was in terms of the social life on campus. So you ended up in Oakland. What did Oakland provide for you as an outlet during that time period?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Oakland provided a sense of like home. Like it didn’t feel like there were as many social expectations or regulations. Racism wasn’t as heavy as it was in Berkeley. My craft held more weight in Oakland, you know, like I feel like my… I could take my craft to Oakland anywhere, you know, especially on the trains. Well, like, anywhere really and be recognized for what I do and, like, really be affirmed in what I do. Whereas like in Berkeley, it just was like, “Oh, that’s cool,” you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> Very much so. I went to Berkeley for grad school. Similar situation where on Fridays I would drop my backpack off and just be in the town and I… It was a release, I could breathe again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> And that’s a lot of the reason why I would either if I was in Berkeley, I was either at home, in class, or on my way to the BART.\u003cem> [chuckles]\u003c/em> Like, I was never really kickin’ it in Berkeley. I never really was fucking with the parties like that, like none of that, because I didn’t feel a sense of belonging. I didn’t feel like there was room for, like, real black girls, like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Berkeley is well known for its political activism, its progressive activism, but there also still exists a lot of hegemony and hierarchy in that arena just to even have access to it, you know. So I felt that a lot and just Oakland gave me an escape. It gave me access to myself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> That makes perfect sense then. And that investment in yourself paid dividends. You furthered your community. You met folks who were into dance just like you were. You met my best friend in the world, Jesus.. Zeus El, who’s a legendary turf dancer. And so I’ve known Zeus since seventh grade, and I’ve seen him develop this turf dance family kind of from the outside. You know, I know a lot of the people, but I’m not a dancer, so I’m not in it. And so I’m wondering, what is it like being inside of that turf dancing family?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> First of all, shout out to Zeus. I love him so much. That’s big bro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He’s incredible. He takes everybody in with open arms. And that’s not the case for all the turfers. And that’s not… that’s not our general standard of embracing people. You know, a lot of times people have to earn it. But he just like, welcomed me and I just- I’m so grateful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Being inside of that family is like it’s very nuanced. Like there’s very, very high highs and the lows really kick you in your ass and there’s a lot of politics too, that are not easily, uh, legible to an onlooker, right or somebody who just whose perspective is from the outside in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s very critical that we stay connected, even if we don’t see eye to eye or even if we don’t agree on a topic. Being in that family is not easy, but Zeus made it a lot easier. Like I met, he was one of the first people I met in my first, like, day of being in Berkeley by myself without my family, you know. Like I went to the gym and I went to go flip with him. And that also gave me a sense of myself because I’ve been an athlete for a long time. And it just reminded me like, there’s not… you don’t have to separate your identity into categories, like they can all blend and serve your purpose for who you are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> You came out and you stole the show at a KQED event. We were honoring dancers from… basically 100 years worth of dancing told through this show. And toward the end, we invited folks to come up on stage and start hittin it, and you came out there, giggin, you knew a little bit of everybody and folks knew you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Being integral to what I love most has earned me the opportunity of getting to be who I am authentically, everywhere I go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you see me interacting with people and you see me like…. Like you said, I knew a little bit of everybody. Someone that I met from years ago in school could be at a KQED event and remember me or recognize me. Right. Or someone that I met through a village auntie can be at another event and remember me. You know what I mean? And so I think just like, developing authentic relationships and being authentic to who I am has allowed me to earn my name and earn like the…honor behind it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> You mentioned dancing in different places and people knowing you from the different hats that you wear. Do you have a different approach when you’re dancing on big stages or community events or even on BART?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Dancing on big stages is really fun. It’s really fun because the support is for the most part, it’s overwhelming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> It allows me to expose the culture to a larger amount of people and the way that I do it, is unique because I wasn’t here, you know, I wasn’t in the Town in 2006, 2007, 2008, right? So the way that I do it has to be genuine to who I am.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It feels empowering to dance on BART because I know that I can always feed myself off my craft, you know? But there’s… there’s, like, nuances, right? Like, there’s the good with the bad. Like, BART is not the cleanest place to be hustling. It’s not the cleanest place to be dancing, you know? So I don’t sit down when I’m dancing on BART. Like I don’t sit down on BART, period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most people who see dancers on BART, they rarely see girls. They rarely see girls who are raw. I don’t know, I don’t even really see girls like that and I be out there! So, like…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turfing in itself is taken up from on a floor, right? And it’s like radical, it’s political. It’s not- it’s not just dance moves Like you can feel it, it pierces you, you know, And whether I’m dancing on BART, whether I’m dancing in a battle, whether I’m dancing at first Friday, whether I’m dancing at a music festival, like people can feel that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> That’s dope, Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> And, in terms of that validity in developing community and reaching folks during the pandemic, BART ridership took a dive. You pivoted and started doing work online. You developed a dance club called “Pussy Power Dance” and it became popular. Why do you think folks latched onto it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Well, I created Pussy Power out of a deficit of platform, right. Each month I would host a IG live session and it would last for about an hour and I would invite girls to come and perform on Pussy Power and, um, they would take 3 to 5 minutes to dance and they would just showcase. And I made it a showcase on purpose so that it was more open to all level styles, backgrounds, like I didn’t want it to feel like a competition or like a battle or like you’re going against all these girls in the live, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I think that people latched on to it because they probably felt the same way and also because they saw how unifying it was from like, the barriers of time, space, language, level of dance, and any other constraints that could keep us away from each other, they- those obstacles didn’t limit us when we were on pussy power. So like, every episode was so inspiring, and all the girls were like, ‘oh my goodness!’ It was just so cool.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To me, giving back is a part of why I do everything that I do. Like I want everyone to walk away with something, even if it’s inspiration or hopefully it’s tangible. And so through Pussy Power, even though there was all these dimensions that kept us apart, I still was able to give back in tangible ways and that made it more popular.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> It’s something, you seem like you’ve etched out a career path. Now you’re working in education as well, teaching young folks dance in West Oakland. Tell me more about your day job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> My day job is teaching dance at an elementary school in West Oakland. And I teach from preschool up until fourth grade. Basically, there’s two classes of each grade and each class like, circulates through my class,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In my class we do, like it’s not elite dancing at all, you know, it’s not like it’s not “traditional” what traditional dance classes would look like, where like they’re learning a choreography and then they’re doing the choreography, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s more of like embracing movement as a creative expression of empowerment. You know, it’s like confidence building. It’s like them embracing that dance culture is really fun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What I do, like, my role is to, like, uplift them and empower them and like, show them like, even if you don’t feel like the best dancer in the world, you can still come touch the stage and show some poses. And, you know, you can walk down a Soul Train line like the queen that you are. And so that allows them to share information of movement with each other, um, back and forth and just like embrace each other, you know, really see each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> And then beyond that, you also do workshops with folks of all ages through the Oakland Museum of California. What’s that experience been like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> The Oakland Museum, shout out to them. I love them so much. The workshop that I taught recently, it did have a diverse age group and I’m grateful for that because the movement and the information that I have to offer. I do want it to be accessible to everyone. And so I hosted a dance workshop on the front steps in the front patio of the Oakland Museum. And at first it was like only a few people. And like, there was some people who were feeling shy so they just wanted to watch. And then there are some people who are like, “Yeah, I’ll do it..I come fuck with y’all.” But by the end of the class it was like a good 15, 20 people and they all like, “Yeah!” You know, they’re all really excited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I like to end with uh, activities, games, you know, dance circles, things like that, because it… it’s not so like… accomplished-based. It’s actually about how you feel because it’s not just a dance move. It’s not just a dance style. It’s like a… It’s a feeling, you know what I mean? It’s like a… it’s like a radical act, it’s a radical practice. So people feel that when they’re in my classes, in my space, learning from me, they always leave with smiles. And that just makes me feel like, oh my goodness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> You’re doing the work. You’re doing the work. And it’s, I mean, the smiles and also like having income based on it, being able to make a living off of dance, that’s a sign that you’re on the right path. With that said, why do you personally think it’s important to pass down these lessons to the next generation?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Several reasons, I really in my heart, I know that if we don’t pay it forward, the culture will die, like, just period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> You know, and so, I really, as someone who’s really passionate about it and who cares about this a lot and like who makes a living and defines my path with this turfin’ shit, like turfing is a way of life for me. And as someone who uses this practice as a way of life, it’s critical to pass it down. It’s critical to pay it forward. So that way I’m not always… the burden isn’t always on me to keep this alive. Like, you know, it’s not just on any of us. Like we have a whole ‘nother generation of people who are emerging and maybe they can do a little bit more with this practice, with this community than we were able to do. You know, maybe they can reach farther than we were able to reach, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like there’s a lot of people around the world who want to learn turfing, you know, and we have it. It’s not like we’re not capable. There’s just some disconnects that I want to, like, connect so that not only I can get paid boucou money to travel the world, to teach and learn turfing. But my peers and my… my youngins can also do the same and see tangible opportunity from this, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> Everybody eats, B.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Telice Summerfield:\u003c/strong> Everybody eats. Everybody walks away with something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Music]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/strong> I want to give a huge shoutout to Telice Summerfield. You’ve found your path, and you’ve simultaneously carried the culture with you! Thank you. Thank you for taking it even further!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You all can follow her on Instagram at tuuhleacee spelled T-U-U-H-L-E-A-C-E-E. And that’s the best way to stay updated on Telice’s upcoming performances, classes and more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This episode was hosted by me, Pendarvis Harshaw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was produced by Marisol Medina-Cadena and Sheree Bishop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chris Hambrick is our editor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Christopher Beale is our engineer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additional support provided by Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña, Ugur Dursun and Holly Kernan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you liked this episode, please share it with a friend, or write a review on your favorite podcast platform. It helps more people find us. 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She was declared an honorary mayor of Santa Clara when she played a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13934154/beyonce-review-levis-stadium-2023-renaissance-world-tour\">sold-out show at Levi’s Stadium in August\u003c/a>. Then, similarly to Taylor Swift, she cut a deal with AMC to directly \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/12/06/1197958699/renaissance-a-film-by-beyonce-is-maximalist-excellence\">release her tour movie\u003c/a> in theaters across the globe last month, bypassing major studios.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is in that movie that many \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13934081/beyonce-renaissance-levis-stadium-photos-fashion\">fans\u003c/a> noticed a familiar face — or perhaps neck — from the Bay Area. One of the dancers on the tour, \u003ca href=\"https://knkrtworld.com/\">Kevin “Konkrete” Davis Jr.\u003c/a>, appeared onscreen with a tattoo of an oak tree with roots, a variation on the City of Oakland’s official logo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Davis spoke to KQED about his Oakland and Sacramento upbringing, how he landed a spot on Beyoncé’s Renaissance World Tour and his favorite spots to hit up when he’s back in the Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/p/C0UIzqEAo1I/\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>When I was in my seat on the opening night of the film in Emeryville, your neck tattoo got a loud reaction from the crowd, pleasantly surprised to see the Town represented in this way. What’s the story behind it?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I was born in Oakland, I’m strictly from the Town, but I was raised in Sacramento. I moved to Sacramento in third grade, then moved back to Oakland — did a lot of back and forth, the whole Northern California trip, if you know what I mean. But I got this tattoo because Oakland is my roots. And it’s like a code, because there are people from the Bay everywhere, especially in the entertainment industry. When they see \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv7mSFsOgOa/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=ZTcxMWMzOWQ1OA%3D%3D\">my tattoo\u003c/a>, they go, “You’re from Oakland, huh?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13940054\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 660px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13940054\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/konkrete-press-photo-copy.jpeg\" alt=\"Konkrete looks into the distance while wearing a grey suit and sunglasses. His oak tree neck tattoo, symbolizing Oakland, is visible.\" width=\"660\" height=\"796\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/konkrete-press-photo-copy.jpeg 660w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/konkrete-press-photo-copy-160x193.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 660px) 100vw, 660px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland-born dancer, choreographer and musician Konkrete has worked with Beyoncé, Busta Rhymes and Eddie Murphy. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Konkrete)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Was there a local crew or dance studio that you came up in?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To be honest, a lot of my dance upbringing was more freelance. I used to just gig in the clubs and, you know, battle in the streets. The only studio that I was involved with was in Sacramento, called Step I, and I was with my brother Phil [Tayag] from \u003ca href=\"https://www.jbwkz.com/\">The Jabbawockeez\u003c/a>. He had this crew called \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BExEbVGhkNQ/\">Boogie Monstarz\u003c/a>. I used to go in there and watch people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tell me about getting the call for Beyoncé’s Renaissance World Tour. Was she on the line? How did you react?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I was actually just shooting some content with some of my homies when I got the call from the choreographer. And they said, basically, “Bey wants you.” So I was immediately like, “Excuse me, what do I need to do?” That was an exciting call, man. It lets me know that what I’m doing is working. [aside postid='arts_13932887']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beyoncé saw my stuff through one of the choreographers of the tour, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/iamtiarivera/?hl=en\">Tia Rivera\u003c/a>, who I’ve known since moving to Los Angeles. Bey saw my work and she said, “Him.” It’s crazy. I was just krumping in little videos, and posting them on social media, you know? That was like a real blessing right there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>I’m curious — was training and rehearsing for this tour different from your other jobs?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was forever training. I mean, we trained the whole time to make the show better. We rehearsed for it nonstop for a few months before the tour, and it was a challenge for us. It was a challenge for Beyoncé, as well, because she wanted to do something that’s never been done before. We did it, though. Of course, it was difficult. I’m not a person that does choreography like that — I know how to tap into it, and I’ve done choreography over the years, but this was the most choreography I’ve ever learned. And it just paid off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>It sure did. That was clear when I attended the show in Santa Clara over the summer. What was your favorite part of the show? Did you have a favorite song to perform?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was “ENERGY.” One of my favorite artists, BEAM, is featured on that song, and Bey put me right in the front with her with my brothers \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/rob_bynes/?hl=en\">Rob Bynes\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/zavionxbrown/?hl=en\">Zavion Brown\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/justcreativelab/?hl=en\">Justin “Jus’t” Chase\u003c/a>. That was the one where I feel like we all just connected and had that crazy energy. I’m a krumper, so I’m a theme for “ENERGY,” you know? That was by far my favorite part.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13940048\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2400px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13940048\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186.jpg\" alt=\"Konkrete strikes a pose wearing a pink mesh top with crystals. \" width=\"2400\" height=\"1600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186.jpg 2400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2400px) 100vw, 2400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Konkrete performs with Beyoncé in Amsterdam, Netherlands in June 2023. \u003ccite>(Andrew White)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Is that your favorite Beyoncé song?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every time I pick one song, another song pops up. Like her new song right now, the one that she just dropped. It’s called “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAsDiZn61Wo\">MY HOUSE\u003c/a>,” and it’s my current favorite. I was like, “Oh, she’s still dropping music.” She’s always setting the tone. And I’m blessed to be a part of her era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What’s the reaction been since the film was released? Have people that recognized you or your tattoo been reaching out to you?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oh, for sure. The City of Sacramento has been posting me on social media, and a lot of folks from Oakland noticed the tree. I get a lot of hits from family back home in Oakland. They’re just letting me know how proud they are and how inspired they are because I’m from the same soil. I just want to let my people know out there that the Bay Area kids shine in the industry. Two of the people that shine to me are \u003ca href=\"https://www.richandtoneproductions.com/\">Rich and Tone Talauega\u003c/a>; they came out of the Bay and they’ve danced with Michael Jackson for years. There’s something special about us — it’s no tea, no shade. [aside postid='arts_13939484']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How would you describe this tour and what it meant to you on a personal level?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think the dopest thing that I pulled from this tour was the family aspect of Beyoncé. She got her family in there — it’s a family business. It makes me want to get together with my family and collaborate. We’re already close. This tour gave me the vision, it cleared everything up for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What’s next for Konkrete?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I actually want to take my career and put it in another country, just to see what it will do. Right now, people from other countries that may not be African American are inspired by the culture. That’s what I believe. I want to go down to these places, like South Korea, and actually inspire them to continue to do what they’re doing, because \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/bayareahiphop\">hip-hop\u003c/a> was never meant to be gatekept. I want to collaborate with different cultures and learn about them, and share my gift with them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, of course, I want to push more music out. That’s just a gimme, man, I push music out with or without money. It’s just a love for it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13940044\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1707px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13940044\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A dancer with bleached hair folds his arms o0n stage while wearing a silver top and red pants.\" width=\"1707\" height=\"2560\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-scaled.jpeg 1707w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-800x1199.jpeg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-1020x1529.jpeg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-160x240.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-768x1151.jpeg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-1024x1536.jpeg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-1366x2048.jpeg 1366w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-1920x2879.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1707px) 100vw, 1707px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Konkrete performs with Beyoncé in Las Vegas in August 2023. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Parkwood Entertainment)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Last but certainly not least, what are your favorite spots in Oakland that you must visit when you’re here?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I’m in the Bay, I think I always go to the spots where I went as a kid, places where I made good memories. I know Lucky Three Seven in Fruitvale, that’s where I have to go first. Jack London Square of course, because I’m a hipster. My grandmother used to live in Emeryville, so I’d go there. I go to Lake Merritt and Mosswood Park — I used to play ball with my dad at Mosswood when I was little. Orbit Coffee downtown goes crazy. Oakland is just home for me. I want to retire in Oakland, to be honest. I want to be in the Town when I’m old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>‘Renaissance: A Film by Beyoncé’ screens at select AMC locations in the Bay Area. In San Francisco, \u003ca href=\"https://apeconcerts.com/events/renaissance-beyonce-240126/\">The Castro Theatre\u003c/a> will host a screening Saturday, Jan. 6, at 8 p.m.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":1490,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":30},"modified":1705002927,"excerpt":"The krumper makes an appearance on the big screen in the superstar’s ‘Renaissance’ film.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"The krumper makes an appearance on the big screen in the superstar’s ‘Renaissance’ film.","title":"How Oakland-Born Dancer Konkrete Ended Up on Tour with Beyoncé | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"How Oakland-Born Dancer Konkrete Ended Up on Tour with Beyoncé","datePublished":"2024-01-04T11:57:43-08:00","dateModified":"2024-01-11T11:55:27-08:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"konkrete-dancer-krumper-beyonce-renaissance-tour-film","status":"publish","templateType":"standard","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","featuredImageType":"standard","sticky":false,"articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13940030/konkrete-dancer-krumper-beyonce-renaissance-tour-film","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13940046\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1951px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13940046\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-NYC-1-PT3-08-cropped.jpeg\" alt=\"A dancer with bleached hair stands on one knee while Beyoncé walks down a catwalk behind him.\" width=\"1951\" height=\"2001\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-NYC-1-PT3-08-cropped.jpeg 1951w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-NYC-1-PT3-08-cropped-800x821.jpeg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-NYC-1-PT3-08-cropped-1020x1046.jpeg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-NYC-1-PT3-08-cropped-160x164.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-NYC-1-PT3-08-cropped-768x788.jpeg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-NYC-1-PT3-08-cropped-1498x1536.jpeg 1498w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-NYC-1-PT3-08-cropped-1920x1969.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1951px) 100vw, 1951px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Konkrete performs with Beyoncé in New York City in July 2023. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Parkwood Entertainment)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>There’s no doubt 2023 was the year of \u003ci>Renaissance\u003c/i>. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/tag/beyonce\">Beyoncé\u003c/a> took her critically acclaimed seventh studio album on the road and broke records, bringing in over $500 million in ticket sales and doing her part to revitalize the U.S. economy. She was declared an honorary mayor of Santa Clara when she played a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13934154/beyonce-review-levis-stadium-2023-renaissance-world-tour\">sold-out show at Levi’s Stadium in August\u003c/a>. Then, similarly to Taylor Swift, she cut a deal with AMC to directly \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/12/06/1197958699/renaissance-a-film-by-beyonce-is-maximalist-excellence\">release her tour movie\u003c/a> in theaters across the globe last month, bypassing major studios.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is in that movie that many \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13934081/beyonce-renaissance-levis-stadium-photos-fashion\">fans\u003c/a> noticed a familiar face — or perhaps neck — from the Bay Area. One of the dancers on the tour, \u003ca href=\"https://knkrtworld.com/\">Kevin “Konkrete” Davis Jr.\u003c/a>, appeared onscreen with a tattoo of an oak tree with roots, a variation on the City of Oakland’s official logo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Davis spoke to KQED about his Oakland and Sacramento upbringing, how he landed a spot on Beyoncé’s Renaissance World Tour and his favorite spots to hit up when he’s back in the Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramUrl":"https://www.instagram.com/p/C0UIzqEAo1I/"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>When I was in my seat on the opening night of the film in Emeryville, your neck tattoo got a loud reaction from the crowd, pleasantly surprised to see the Town represented in this way. What’s the story behind it?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I was born in Oakland, I’m strictly from the Town, but I was raised in Sacramento. I moved to Sacramento in third grade, then moved back to Oakland — did a lot of back and forth, the whole Northern California trip, if you know what I mean. But I got this tattoo because Oakland is my roots. And it’s like a code, because there are people from the Bay everywhere, especially in the entertainment industry. When they see \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv7mSFsOgOa/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=ZTcxMWMzOWQ1OA%3D%3D\">my tattoo\u003c/a>, they go, “You’re from Oakland, huh?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13940054\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 660px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13940054\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/konkrete-press-photo-copy.jpeg\" alt=\"Konkrete looks into the distance while wearing a grey suit and sunglasses. His oak tree neck tattoo, symbolizing Oakland, is visible.\" width=\"660\" height=\"796\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/konkrete-press-photo-copy.jpeg 660w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/konkrete-press-photo-copy-160x193.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 660px) 100vw, 660px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland-born dancer, choreographer and musician Konkrete has worked with Beyoncé, Busta Rhymes and Eddie Murphy. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Konkrete)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Was there a local crew or dance studio that you came up in?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To be honest, a lot of my dance upbringing was more freelance. I used to just gig in the clubs and, you know, battle in the streets. The only studio that I was involved with was in Sacramento, called Step I, and I was with my brother Phil [Tayag] from \u003ca href=\"https://www.jbwkz.com/\">The Jabbawockeez\u003c/a>. He had this crew called \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BExEbVGhkNQ/\">Boogie Monstarz\u003c/a>. I used to go in there and watch people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tell me about getting the call for Beyoncé’s Renaissance World Tour. Was she on the line? How did you react?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I was actually just shooting some content with some of my homies when I got the call from the choreographer. And they said, basically, “Bey wants you.” So I was immediately like, “Excuse me, what do I need to do?” That was an exciting call, man. It lets me know that what I’m doing is working. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13932887","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beyoncé saw my stuff through one of the choreographers of the tour, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/iamtiarivera/?hl=en\">Tia Rivera\u003c/a>, who I’ve known since moving to Los Angeles. Bey saw my work and she said, “Him.” It’s crazy. I was just krumping in little videos, and posting them on social media, you know? That was like a real blessing right there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>I’m curious — was training and rehearsing for this tour different from your other jobs?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was forever training. I mean, we trained the whole time to make the show better. We rehearsed for it nonstop for a few months before the tour, and it was a challenge for us. It was a challenge for Beyoncé, as well, because she wanted to do something that’s never been done before. We did it, though. Of course, it was difficult. I’m not a person that does choreography like that — I know how to tap into it, and I’ve done choreography over the years, but this was the most choreography I’ve ever learned. And it just paid off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>It sure did. That was clear when I attended the show in Santa Clara over the summer. What was your favorite part of the show? Did you have a favorite song to perform?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was “ENERGY.” One of my favorite artists, BEAM, is featured on that song, and Bey put me right in the front with her with my brothers \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/rob_bynes/?hl=en\">Rob Bynes\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/zavionxbrown/?hl=en\">Zavion Brown\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/justcreativelab/?hl=en\">Justin “Jus’t” Chase\u003c/a>. That was the one where I feel like we all just connected and had that crazy energy. I’m a krumper, so I’m a theme for “ENERGY,” you know? That was by far my favorite part.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13940048\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2400px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13940048\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186.jpg\" alt=\"Konkrete strikes a pose wearing a pink mesh top with crystals. \" width=\"2400\" height=\"1600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186.jpg 2400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/20230618_RWT_Amsterdam_White__W2_7186-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2400px) 100vw, 2400px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Konkrete performs with Beyoncé in Amsterdam, Netherlands in June 2023. \u003ccite>(Andrew White)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Is that your favorite Beyoncé song?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every time I pick one song, another song pops up. Like her new song right now, the one that she just dropped. It’s called “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAsDiZn61Wo\">MY HOUSE\u003c/a>,” and it’s my current favorite. I was like, “Oh, she’s still dropping music.” She’s always setting the tone. And I’m blessed to be a part of her era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What’s the reaction been since the film was released? Have people that recognized you or your tattoo been reaching out to you?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oh, for sure. The City of Sacramento has been posting me on social media, and a lot of folks from Oakland noticed the tree. I get a lot of hits from family back home in Oakland. They’re just letting me know how proud they are and how inspired they are because I’m from the same soil. I just want to let my people know out there that the Bay Area kids shine in the industry. Two of the people that shine to me are \u003ca href=\"https://www.richandtoneproductions.com/\">Rich and Tone Talauega\u003c/a>; they came out of the Bay and they’ve danced with Michael Jackson for years. There’s something special about us — it’s no tea, no shade. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13939484","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How would you describe this tour and what it meant to you on a personal level?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think the dopest thing that I pulled from this tour was the family aspect of Beyoncé. She got her family in there — it’s a family business. It makes me want to get together with my family and collaborate. We’re already close. This tour gave me the vision, it cleared everything up for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What’s next for Konkrete?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I actually want to take my career and put it in another country, just to see what it will do. Right now, people from other countries that may not be African American are inspired by the culture. That’s what I believe. I want to go down to these places, like South Korea, and actually inspire them to continue to do what they’re doing, because \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/bayareahiphop\">hip-hop\u003c/a> was never meant to be gatekept. I want to collaborate with different cultures and learn about them, and share my gift with them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, of course, I want to push more music out. That’s just a gimme, man, I push music out with or without money. It’s just a love for it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13940044\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1707px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13940044\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"A dancer with bleached hair folds his arms o0n stage while wearing a silver top and red pants.\" width=\"1707\" height=\"2560\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-scaled.jpeg 1707w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-800x1199.jpeg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-1020x1529.jpeg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-160x240.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-768x1151.jpeg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-1024x1536.jpeg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-1366x2048.jpeg 1366w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/01/Konkrete-LasVegas-069-1920x2879.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1707px) 100vw, 1707px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Konkrete performs with Beyoncé in Las Vegas in August 2023. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Parkwood Entertainment)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Last but certainly not least, what are your favorite spots in Oakland that you must visit when you’re here?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I’m in the Bay, I think I always go to the spots where I went as a kid, places where I made good memories. I know Lucky Three Seven in Fruitvale, that’s where I have to go first. Jack London Square of course, because I’m a hipster. My grandmother used to live in Emeryville, so I’d go there. I go to Lake Merritt and Mosswood Park — I used to play ball with my dad at Mosswood when I was little. Orbit Coffee downtown goes crazy. Oakland is just home for me. I want to retire in Oakland, to be honest. I want to be in the Town when I’m old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>‘Renaissance: A Film by Beyoncé’ screens at select AMC locations in the Bay Area. In San Francisco, \u003ca href=\"https://apeconcerts.com/events/renaissance-beyonce-240126/\">The Castro Theatre\u003c/a> will host a screening Saturday, Jan. 6, at 8 p.m.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13940030/konkrete-dancer-krumper-beyonce-renaissance-tour-film","authors":["11883"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_835","arts_966"],"tags":["arts_1686","arts_879","arts_10342","arts_10278","arts_18214"],"featImg":"arts_13940047","label":"arts"},"arts_13938001":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13938001","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"arts","id":"13938001","score":null,"sort":[1699992952000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"arts","term":140},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1699992952,"format":"standard","title":"In an AI-Driven Future, Turf Dancers Share the Meaning of Their Movements","headTitle":"In an AI-Driven Future, Turf Dancers Share the Meaning of Their Movements | KQED","content":"\u003cp>In a 2016 music video for Kaytranada’s “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnou4zthz4\">Lite Spots\u003c/a>” a robot follows its creator around Los Angeles, watching and mimicking dance moves. But there’s one dance style (which looks a lot like the Oakland-born turfing) that the robot is unable to fully capture, resulting in an error message, an inability for the AI to compute. In her new dance theater performance \u003cem>Mud Water IV\u003c/em>, Nov. 18 and 19 at \u003ca href=\"https://dancemissiontheater.org/2023/09/05/nov-17-19-mude-water-iv/\">Dance Mission Theater\u003c/a>, Bay Area artist and choreographer \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/11514189/women-to-watch-my-linh-le\">My-Linh Le\u003c/a> proposes a futuristic scenario not so dissimilar from that music video: what might it look like to teach an AI about the cultural roots and importance of turfing? \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID='arts_13932887']Le, the founder and director of \u003ca href=\"https://www.mudwatertheatre.com/\">Mud Water Theatre\u003c/a>, is best known for bringing turfing to the stage, collaboratively creating productions with groups of dancers — including a combination of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/11230644/turf-dancing-and-ballet-struggle-to-meet-half-way\">turfing and ballet\u003c/a>. She pivoted to film at the height of the pandemic, creating \u003ca href=\"https://sffilm.org/event/mud-water/\">\u003cem>Mud Water\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, a half-hour short that premiered at the 2022 San Francisco International Film Festival as a hybrid narrative and dance film. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While preparing for this latest iteration of the project, her cast struggled to define turfing, so Le provided ChatGPT’s take on the dance form (\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\">originally known as fuckin’ with it\u003c/a>). In addition to a description of fluid, graceful, abrupt and robotic movements, the chatbot offered that turfing “means to engage with or manipulate something in a casual or experimental manner, often with a sense of nonchalance or indifference. It can also imply a willingness to take risks or be daring.” The dancers agreed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13937645\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person with glasses smiles in a large indoor room.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13937645\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">My-Linh Le smiles as she watches her dancers rehearse at the Bayview Opera House. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>From ‘going hyphy to going viral’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Le thinks of \u003cem>Mud Water IV\u003c/em> as an exercise in autoethnography, a method of reflecting on the dancers’ observations of their own culture or subculture. Since the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\">emergence of turfing\u003c/a> in the early 2000s, shifts in musical styles have inevitably changed the way people dance to that music. Le is especially interested in the role virality plays within the attention economy; she’s trying to understand the trajectory of Bay Area dance culture from “going hyphy to going viral.” Fittingly, part of the premise of \u003cem>Mud Water IV\u003c/em>, set in the year 2032, is the existence of an AI called DanceGPT that has gorged itself on social media dance trends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID='arts_13856335']“You basically have to change the integrity of the thing you love or the stance that you want to represent, if you want it to spread,” Le says of dance in today’s social media landscape. “But in the end, what are you spreading? Many of the turfers in our cast have been discussing the changes and shifts they’re seeing.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cast is made up of some of the most extraordinary dancers in the Bay Area turfing community, including Alante “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/ogtaehaze/\">Tae-Ninja\u003c/a>” Hall, Arthur “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/_dopeyfresh_/\">Dopeyfresh\u003c/a>” Gardner, Gary “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/icecold3000/\">Icecold3000\u003c/a>” Morgan, Jarell “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/lf_skeeter/\">Skeeter\u003c/a>” Boyd, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/2112charlie/\">Charlie\u003c/a>, Michael “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/nonamevision/\">Noname\u003c/a>” Chicago II, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/shakathecreator/\">Shaka Perdue\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/tuuhleacee/\">Telice Summerfield\u003c/a>. Le asked her cast questions about their experiences in the turfing community, becoming an intermediary for their reflections as they prepared for the show over the past year. She considered how their perceptions, their participation in the movement, might possibly feed into DanceGPT — and how algorithms, in turn, could change or transform the culture. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13938015\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000.jpg\" alt=\"A woman holds left hand pointing down in dance movement, mouth open and tongue out\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13938015\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alante ‘Tae-Ninja’ Hall during rehearsals for ‘Mud Water IV.’ \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At Dance Mission Theater, the final production includes turfing, storytelling and motion graphics projected behind the dancers on stage. The entire structure of the show is documentary-esque, a purposeful response to the rapid speed of data and image-consumption by both social media and machine-learning platforms. Audiences watch as the dancers attempt to provide — ultimately — a definition of turfing. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As I sat through a rehearsal, every movement changed slightly with every repetition, which was refreshing and slightly unnerving — a particular glide or articulation was specific to each moment. Similarly, the sheer beauty of turfing comes from the inability to contain it. Could an AI capture and document, with precision, the history and cultural impact of turfing? The short answer is: never.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘It takes the whole community’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If technology cannot hold a dance movement, maybe a dancer’s body can serve as a type of archive? The body remembers — but it also forgets. It inevitably evolves and ages, which might not make it the most reliable entity for storing memories and movements. As dancers and dance forms evolve, movements become second nature or are omitted, especially if a gesture doesn’t feel like it has a soul to it. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13938016\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000.jpg\" alt=\"Person in glasses is in focus watching two dancers in foreground, out of focus\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13938016\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Telice Summerfield (left) and Alante ‘Tae-Ninja’ Hall (right) rehearse for as My-Linh Le (center) watches. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Le came up in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13833179/playboyz-inc-dancers-keep-strutting-and-popping-alive-in-san-jose\">the popping scene of San José\u003c/a>, but it was a creative environment, she says, of a specific time, place and people. “You can put on the clothing and the attire. You can play the music of the ’80s or ’90s, but essentially you can’t recreate it,” she says. “You can’t reenact it because it takes the whole community for a culture to exist. When we talk about the archive being the body, yes, it is the body. But it is also the bodies — the many, within the community.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID='arts_13833179']Turfing is full of intricate finger, hand and arm gesticulations. Its dancers seem to float across concrete, creating a genre of movement in a class of its own. The culture makes space for celebration alongside \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13935408/hyphy-kids-got-trauma-pt-2-we-dance-different\">expressions of mourning, trauma and loss\u003c/a>, all while dancers battle to take up room on the floor. What started at house parties and in the streets now also exists in competitions and theatrical performances, and yet it is a movement that resists label or definition. \u003cem>Mud Water IV\u003c/em> attempts to grasp its meaning: the dance form’s irresistibility lies in its insistence to play as much as to rouse. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What appeals to Le, and what the upcoming performance captures, is turfing’s profoundly rooted, endlessly iterative style. “You’re going to get every texture,” she says. “You’re going to get smooth, fluid, liquid. You’re going to get the frenetic. You’re going to get the deeply thoughtful movement as well as happy. You enter and go in any direction. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are no rules when it comes to turfing or fuck with it,” Le adds. “It comes down to whether or not you share the same values, same kind of history, and similar experiences that you end up speaking in the same language.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12127869\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>‘Mud Water IV’ takes place Nov. 18 and 19 at Dance Mission Theater (3316 24th St.). \u003ca href=\"https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mud-water-iv-tickets-715650468817\">Click here for tickets and more information\u003c/a>.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":1195,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":17},"modified":1705003099,"excerpt":"My-Linh Le’s new dance theater performance ‘Mud Water IV’ imagines turfing in 2032.\r\n","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"In an AI-Driven Future, Turf Dancers Share the Meaning of Their Movements","socialTitle":"‘Mud Water IV’ Imagines Turfing in an AI-Driven Future %%page%% %%sep%% KQED","ogTitle":"In an AI-Driven Future, Turf Dancers Share the Meaning of Their Movements","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"My-Linh Le’s new dance theater performance ‘Mud Water IV’ imagines turfing in 2032.\r\n","title":"‘Mud Water IV’ Imagines Turfing in an AI-Driven Future | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"In an AI-Driven Future, Turf Dancers Share the Meaning of Their Movements","datePublished":"2023-11-14T12:15:52-08:00","dateModified":"2024-01-11T11:58:19-08:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"my-linh-le-turf-dance-mud-water-iv-mission-dance-theater","status":"publish","templateType":"standard","nprByline":"Dorothy R. 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In her new dance theater performance \u003cem>Mud Water IV\u003c/em>, Nov. 18 and 19 at \u003ca href=\"https://dancemissiontheater.org/2023/09/05/nov-17-19-mude-water-iv/\">Dance Mission Theater\u003c/a>, Bay Area artist and choreographer \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/11514189/women-to-watch-my-linh-le\">My-Linh Le\u003c/a> proposes a futuristic scenario not so dissimilar from that music video: what might it look like to teach an AI about the cultural roots and importance of turfing? \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13932887","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Le, the founder and director of \u003ca href=\"https://www.mudwatertheatre.com/\">Mud Water Theatre\u003c/a>, is best known for bringing turfing to the stage, collaboratively creating productions with groups of dancers — including a combination of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/11230644/turf-dancing-and-ballet-struggle-to-meet-half-way\">turfing and ballet\u003c/a>. She pivoted to film at the height of the pandemic, creating \u003ca href=\"https://sffilm.org/event/mud-water/\">\u003cem>Mud Water\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, a half-hour short that premiered at the 2022 San Francisco International Film Festival as a hybrid narrative and dance film. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While preparing for this latest iteration of the project, her cast struggled to define turfing, so Le provided ChatGPT’s take on the dance form (\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\">originally known as fuckin’ with it\u003c/a>). In addition to a description of fluid, graceful, abrupt and robotic movements, the chatbot offered that turfing “means to engage with or manipulate something in a casual or experimental manner, often with a sense of nonchalance or indifference. It can also imply a willingness to take risks or be daring.” The dancers agreed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13937645\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A person with glasses smiles in a large indoor room.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13937645\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-013-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">My-Linh Le smiles as she watches her dancers rehearse at the Bayview Opera House. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>From ‘going hyphy to going viral’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Le thinks of \u003cem>Mud Water IV\u003c/em> as an exercise in autoethnography, a method of reflecting on the dancers’ observations of their own culture or subculture. Since the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\">emergence of turfing\u003c/a> in the early 2000s, shifts in musical styles have inevitably changed the way people dance to that music. Le is especially interested in the role virality plays within the attention economy; she’s trying to understand the trajectory of Bay Area dance culture from “going hyphy to going viral.” Fittingly, part of the premise of \u003cem>Mud Water IV\u003c/em>, set in the year 2032, is the existence of an AI called DanceGPT that has gorged itself on social media dance trends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13856335","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“You basically have to change the integrity of the thing you love or the stance that you want to represent, if you want it to spread,” Le says of dance in today’s social media landscape. “But in the end, what are you spreading? Many of the turfers in our cast have been discussing the changes and shifts they’re seeing.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cast is made up of some of the most extraordinary dancers in the Bay Area turfing community, including Alante “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/ogtaehaze/\">Tae-Ninja\u003c/a>” Hall, Arthur “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/_dopeyfresh_/\">Dopeyfresh\u003c/a>” Gardner, Gary “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/icecold3000/\">Icecold3000\u003c/a>” Morgan, Jarell “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/lf_skeeter/\">Skeeter\u003c/a>” Boyd, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/2112charlie/\">Charlie\u003c/a>, Michael “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/nonamevision/\">Noname\u003c/a>” Chicago II, \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/shakathecreator/\">Shaka Perdue\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/tuuhleacee/\">Telice Summerfield\u003c/a>. Le asked her cast questions about their experiences in the turfing community, becoming an intermediary for their reflections as they prepared for the show over the past year. She considered how their perceptions, their participation in the movement, might possibly feed into DanceGPT — and how algorithms, in turn, could change or transform the culture. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13938015\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000.jpg\" alt=\"A woman holds left hand pointing down in dance movement, mouth open and tongue out\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13938015\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-004-JY_2000-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alante ‘Tae-Ninja’ Hall during rehearsals for ‘Mud Water IV.’ \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At Dance Mission Theater, the final production includes turfing, storytelling and motion graphics projected behind the dancers on stage. The entire structure of the show is documentary-esque, a purposeful response to the rapid speed of data and image-consumption by both social media and machine-learning platforms. Audiences watch as the dancers attempt to provide — ultimately — a definition of turfing. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As I sat through a rehearsal, every movement changed slightly with every repetition, which was refreshing and slightly unnerving — a particular glide or articulation was specific to each moment. Similarly, the sheer beauty of turfing comes from the inability to contain it. Could an AI capture and document, with precision, the history and cultural impact of turfing? The short answer is: never.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘It takes the whole community’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If technology cannot hold a dance movement, maybe a dancer’s body can serve as a type of archive? The body remembers — but it also forgets. It inevitably evolves and ages, which might not make it the most reliable entity for storing memories and movements. As dancers and dance forms evolve, movements become second nature or are omitted, especially if a gesture doesn’t feel like it has a soul to it. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13938016\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000.jpg\" alt=\"Person in glasses is in focus watching two dancers in foreground, out of focus\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13938016\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/11/20231101-My-Linh-Le-003-JY_2000-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Telice Summerfield (left) and Alante ‘Tae-Ninja’ Hall (right) rehearse for as My-Linh Le (center) watches. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Le came up in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13833179/playboyz-inc-dancers-keep-strutting-and-popping-alive-in-san-jose\">the popping scene of San José\u003c/a>, but it was a creative environment, she says, of a specific time, place and people. “You can put on the clothing and the attire. You can play the music of the ’80s or ’90s, but essentially you can’t recreate it,” she says. “You can’t reenact it because it takes the whole community for a culture to exist. When we talk about the archive being the body, yes, it is the body. But it is also the bodies — the many, within the community.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13833179","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Turfing is full of intricate finger, hand and arm gesticulations. Its dancers seem to float across concrete, creating a genre of movement in a class of its own. The culture makes space for celebration alongside \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13935408/hyphy-kids-got-trauma-pt-2-we-dance-different\">expressions of mourning, trauma and loss\u003c/a>, all while dancers battle to take up room on the floor. What started at house parties and in the streets now also exists in competitions and theatrical performances, and yet it is a movement that resists label or definition. \u003cem>Mud Water IV\u003c/em> attempts to grasp its meaning: the dance form’s irresistibility lies in its insistence to play as much as to rouse. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What appeals to Le, and what the upcoming performance captures, is turfing’s profoundly rooted, endlessly iterative style. “You’re going to get every texture,” she says. “You’re going to get smooth, fluid, liquid. You’re going to get the frenetic. You’re going to get the deeply thoughtful movement as well as happy. You enter and go in any direction. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are no rules when it comes to turfing or fuck with it,” Le adds. “It comes down to whether or not you share the same values, same kind of history, and similar experiences that you end up speaking in the same language.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12127869\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>‘Mud Water IV’ takes place Nov. 18 and 19 at Dance Mission Theater (3316 24th St.). \u003ca href=\"https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mud-water-iv-tickets-715650468817\">Click here for tickets and more information\u003c/a>.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/arts/13938001/my-linh-le-turf-dance-mud-water-iv-mission-dance-theater","authors":["byline_arts_13938001"],"programs":["arts_140"],"categories":["arts_1","arts_966","arts_1003"],"tags":["arts_879","arts_10278","arts_1146","arts_21737"],"featImg":"arts_13938014","label":"arts_140"},"arts_13935408":{"type":"posts","id":"arts_13935408","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"arts","id":"13935408","score":null,"sort":[1695895252000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"arts","term":8720},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1695895252,"format":"audio","title":"Hyphy Kids Got Trauma Pt. 2, ‘We Dance Different’","headTitle":"Hyphy Kids Got Trauma Pt. 2, ‘We Dance Different’ | KQED","content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the spring of 2006, I filmed and posted a video to Youth Radio’s YouTube page titled “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdst63FWSCs\">Stomper Go Dumb\u003c/a>.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The video shows the Oakland A’s mascot, a big plush elephant in a baseball jersey and hat, dancing to a song titled “Happy To Be Here,” off of E-40’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My Ghetto Report Card\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> album. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">E-40 delivers lyrics that speak of surviving hard times and losing loved ones along the way. As the music plays, Stomper glides through the parking lot, dancing with the people, one with the letters “RIP” airbrushed on their shirt. A few folks hug each other and smile. This video clip, only a minute in length, is a window into a world where dance and jubilation meet mourning and sadness.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title='Youth Radio: Stomper \"Go Dumb\"' width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/zdst63FWSCs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen>\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before the “hyphy movement,” and even prior to having its own name, the style of dance now commonly known as turfin’ or\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\"> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">turf dancing\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> provided an outlet for young folks in Oakland. They could party to their favorite music, have fun by physically telling stories, and express themselves while\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> taking up room on the floor\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Through appearances in big-time music videos and participation in dance battles at places like Deep East Oakland’s Youth Uprising Center, young folks not only got to show their moves — they were also able to honor their deceased loved ones.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this episode, we talk to \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/turfinentertainment/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jeriel Bey\u003c/a>, the person credited with coining the term “turfin’,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/jackyj510/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jacky Johnson\u003c/a>, a founding Youth Uprising staff member, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/zeusdadunka/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jesus El, \u003c/a>my longtime friend and a well-known turf dancer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13935479\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13935479\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-800x623.jpg\" alt=\"Jeriel Bey teaches Turf Dancing classes at Berkeley High School in 2007.\" width=\"800\" height=\"623\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-800x623.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1020x795.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-160x125.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-768x599.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1536x1197.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-2048x1596.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1920x1496.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jeriel Bey teaches turf dancing classes at Berkeley High School in 2007. \u003ccite>(Carlos Avila Gonzalez/San Francisco Chronicle/Getty Images )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC4775019711&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw, Host: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Heads up, this podcast contains explicit language.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the spring of 2006, there was this video posted on Youtube titled “Stomper Go Dumb.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[chatter, shouting, and cheering from the Stomper Go Dumb video]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The clip is less than a minute long, but it shows something that’s really important. It’s shot in a parking lot. It’s Stomper, the Oakland A’s mascot– a big gray plush elephant in white pants and a forest green and gold baseball jersey. And he’s out there giggin’ to an E-40 song. Ears flapping, feet sliding, arms waving, Stomper is in full party mode, and so are the folks around him. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Behind the camera is me. In the footage, Stomper gets close to the camera, daps me up, then he proceeds to glide across the pavement, pausing momentarily to act as if he’s ghostriding the whip, and then he thizz dances. Another guy in an airbrushed white-t stands next to him, giggin’ as well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The guy’s shirt has the letters RIP boldly written next to an illegible name. And they’re all dancing to E-40’s “Happy to Be Here.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Happy to be Here by E-40 plays]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The track is off of 40’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My Ghetto Report Card \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">album, one of the few slower tracks off of his landmark project, which is chock full of high energy party anthems. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But in that moment, as we’re posted in front of E-40’s album release party at Tower Records, it’s this song that plays as the A’s mascot is showing off his gigs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People are dancing and laughing, embracing each other and celebrating, despite having the letters RIP and their friends’ names written across their chest. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Happy to be Here by E-40 fades in]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Oooh; it’s gloomy out here, dark days ahead\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">God got my back but the devil he want my head”\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After I shot the video, I posted it to the YouTube page for Youth Radio, now known as YR Media. I was a baby reporter working with them at the time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And with this video racking up half a million views, and hella people using this footage as GIFs on social media platforms, it was clear that I’d documented something significant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Deeper than a dancing elephant, it was a window into the culture. I’m Pendarvis Harshaw, and this is Hyphy Kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In that video of Stomper dancing to an E-40 song, the mascot does a few more dance moves, and then gives an extended embrace to a brotha with cornrows in a black leather jacket. The person inside the Stomper mascot outfit is saying what’s up to my right hand man, Jesus El, Zeus as we call him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s just a couple inches taller than me, born exactly three weeks before me, and we’re a lot alike. We’re socialites; neither of us can stay away from a party. Oakland proud, we both love the town and constantly get caught up in our own thoughts about how to save it – and the world, for that matter.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While I chose to sit down and write for a living, Zeus chose to fly. A trained gymnast, for over a decade he worked for the NBA, majority of that time was with the Golden State Warriors as an acro-dunker. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[hip-hop music echoes inside of stadium with a cheering crowd]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That means that at halftime of a game he’d come out with his crew – the Warriors’ Team Thunder dunk team – and run across the court, bounce off a trampoline, elevate higher than the rim, catch the ball mid-air, wink at the camera, and then dunk the ball before safely returning to earth. Outside of that, he’s also a well-known dancer from West Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I got this photo in my text message today. What’s going on here?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, man, that’s crazy. That’s a throwback. So this photo is of me dancing at Youth Uprising in a dance battle. Uh, and I look super young and skinny.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We grew up in different parts of the Town, and met during a 7th grade summer program– cracking jokes on the back of the bus. And after twenty-plus years, we haven’t stopped cracking jokes since. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The jordans – are those the fake Jordans we got? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think those was the fake Jordans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The fake Jordans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yours was fakers than mine though.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Faker? How they– if they fake, they fake. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If they fake they fake, but yours… your Jordan had buttcheeks. Remember that?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He was facing the wrong way.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He was facing the wrong way and he had the buttcheeks showing. Mine, I could at least, you know, well I was getting away with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You just gotta pull the jeans down.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I had to pull the jeans– yeah, I had to wear the big jeans over him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cb>\u003ci> \u003c/i>\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in ‘06 we were broke community college students taking classes at Laney in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Zeus had dreams of becoming an NBA mascot, and was simultaneously developing his own acro-dunking team. I was focused on doing journalism, and had just got accepted to Howard University. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So while I was spending the year getting ready for college on the east coast and getting my journalism chops up, Zeus was building his own legacy, both in the Town and around the globe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve been to China ten times, been to Italy, um, Rome, Japan, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Mexico…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He adds England, Budapest, and all of North America. He’s performed for Ripley’s Believe It or Not, holds a couple Guinness World Records, and in 2005 he performed in front of some of the biggest names in the business at the NBA All Star game in Denver, Colorado.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I met Destiny’s Child. They like, room was right next door to ours. Jay-Z, Chris Tucker, we met so many different people…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Zeus got his start after being mentored by the late Sadiki Fuller, the guy who wore the Thunder mascot costume for the Golden State Warriors. And that’s how Zeus got to know other mascots– like Stomper. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Zeus’ main inspiration came from superheroes in movies and television shows. In his own way, Zeus was a superhero when he was on the court. And just like any superhero, he’d be treated differently when he took the cape, or um, uniform off. He would leave the old Warriors arena in East Oakland and he’d transition, like Superman to Clark Kent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I had times where I’m having the day of my life. Like, I just did a new dunk, I’m the first person to do it. I do it in front of people. I make it. I’m feeling like on cloud nine…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> …and then I get back, you know everybody leaving the BART, and uh people don’t have to notice me—I’m not tripping off of that. But then, you know, people clutching they purse or, you know, like, just trying to, like, stand away from me, you know what I mean. I’m like, bruh, you was just clapping for me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Just like that, you was just clapping for me, and now I’m just another nigga that may bring harm your way and that’s trauma within itself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s trauma in that duality of physically showing joy, and being celebrated and then getting hit with the weight of reality. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In order to escape it, Zeus would literally leave. He found solace in seeing the world. But despite the freedom he felt traveling back then, Zeus knew he had to keep his stories close to the chest because of how smirkish people can be. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I remember just traveling like, I mean, soon as, aw man, soon as I touch that airplane: Oakland is in Oakland. I’m going global, I’m out. Right?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then when I come home, I have to pretend like I’m not that person.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You gotta dumb it down? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I gotta dumb it down all the time. Because, one, people… people who speak too highly of themselves are typically the ones who end up shot first, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They typically the ones that people target. It could be jealousy. It could be hate. It could be all kind of stuff. But people who… sometimes you got to just stay under the radar to survive. That’s how we survived this long.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> As confining as that might seem, it was kind of the code, still is. The Town is a place where you gotta stay low even as you come up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But on the contrary, Zeus was getting his limelight on the hoop courts. And outside of that, he was cutting up on the dancefloor– that’s where he really escaped, specifically, through the art of turf dancing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Turf Dancing is an acronym called Taking Up Room on the Floor that was coined by Jeriel Bey. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So turf dancing, it’s a style of dance that derives from Oakland. And it’s storytelling and it’s certain moves that you do, but it’s storytelling. It’s waving, gliding, all of that but it’s a certain swag that comes with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But before it was even called turfing, it was called hitting it or touching it or fucking wit it. Like, ‘fuck wit it bruh’, ya know what im saying? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel Bey, raised between Oakland and LA, is a marketing minded brother who had turf dancing, lightweight, land on his doorstep.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They know me as the godfather of turf dancing. I coined the phrase, a lot of people are like ‘you didn’t coin the phrase!’ But you know coining is something you use before anybody else use it. So I used it in both, in print and on my fliers, you know, my events, you know, just… I knew long ago just from having a lot of internships that, you know, you brand yourself, you know how to brand myself. So I definitely am known for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel was a party promoter, who was living in West Oakland and that’s where, two young dudes from the neighborhood, Demtrius Zeigler and Cory Johnson AKA Scooby, would hang around his house.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Those are the two first kids I met and then those two kids brought every other kid around me. You know, these kids, like, 14, 15, with sawed off shotguns in their backpacks. Like, bad but good kids, they just needed some focus. And the only thing they all knew that they all knew how to do was dance. Guns, and money, drugs and all, they all was coming in front of the house, dancing with me. And so my thing was like, okay, I got to give back and give ’em something to do.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The dance sessions brought about dope moves, clean gigs and hyped reactions. The problem was: the dance they were doing didn’t really have a name. There were notable moves: the drop, the airwalk, the old school Brookfield. But the overall dance style was kinda just a part of Oakland culture. That’s how we moved. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, at the same time, the terms folks were using to describe the dance style weren’t exactly marketable to the venues Jeriel was looking to work with. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was like man, I can’t sell this as ‘fucking with it’ or ‘giggin’. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So Jeriel started brainstorming, and during a conversation with one of his cousins, it all clicked. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Man, I got these youngstas in front of the house, you remember Demetrius and Scooby? They be ‘fuckin wit it’ and shit, you know, they all be dance differently: the East Oakland, the West Oakland, you know? They all dance different. Like I said, like different turfs and they all dance different…Man, how does turf dancing sound? He was like, ‘Oh, yeah, that’s it. That’s, that’s it right there!’ \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so that’s what it was. Everywhere the little homies was going, ‘What ya’ll doing?’ We turf dancing, we turf dancing. And that’s how it stuck. Even when I did community events in the City, I made sure they put it on the fliers, we turf dancing. We’re not “hyphy dancers,” hyphy was kind of like the energy, the spirit, the movement. But, you know, turfing is how we was able to separate ourselves from the energy, you know, we was turf dancing. We wasn’t hyphy dancing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Turf dancing – a mixture of boogaloo, poplock, pantomime, and being player while moving on beat – was something different than just going 18 dummy like some might imagine when we’re talking “hyphy” dancing. I mean, that was a part of it, but it was deeper than just shaking yo’ dreads. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Echo of E-40 saying “Shake them dreads.”]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was a world of Bay Area storytelling through dance, complete with signature moves from certain neighborhoods. Hence the name “turf” dancing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And people would dance everywhere, at the bus stop, the house party, The candy shop – which was this fake-teenager-club-function thing that didn’t serve alcohol but was somehow still full of faded teenagers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We hit it at the sideshow, on a car, in a car. In the school hallway, acting as if you were a car. And, at your local community center, specifically this one called Youth Uprising. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Youth Uprising opened in 2005, it was this sleek looking youth center located on 87th and MacArthur in East Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A huge-freshly painted state of the art building with bright colors that stood in contrast to the surrounding apartment buildings and the adjacent school – Castlemont High School– an institution that had been under-resourced for years, and it showed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Inside of Youth Uprising, the building was well-decorated with artwork and photos. They offered healthy meals to teenagers who came from the surrounding community, as well as employment and educational resources. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’d go up there and kick it in the music studios or attend discussions about the state of the community. And I’d also hit the dance battles they threw– turf dance battles. Here’s founding Youth Uprising staff member Jacky Johnson. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We stopped publicizing them after a while. We would just like announce the day of we were gonna do it because they would just get so like crazy. Like, our little amphitheater would just be packed. And we would see, like, young people running down the hill across MacArthur from, um, up the hill just run cutting through like, backyards to run over to the center.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jacky is a longtime community advocate who works at the intersection of social justice and entertainment. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the day, she got her start as a young adult on the staff of Youth Uprising. One of her tasks was to organize and promote the turf dance battle events. And through that, she saw how important dancing was to the culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The crowd fueled the dancers. The dancers fueled the crowd. Like it was just this perfect mixture of just a showing of what, um, Oakland, of what the Bay Area’s energy is about. And I just think of that time, I always reflect on, you can’t, you know, I, I hope that young people or, you know, other generations, they’ll have their own moments like that, but that, to me, that just feels like a moment that couldn’t… couldn’t be duplicated.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The dance battles would be roughly once a month, and they’d garner all kinds of attention. Makes sense, we didn’t have much else to do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of this culture was born out of a void. There weren’t many places in Oakland where folks could congregate for large scale-hip-hop events, and it had been that way. Because of previous conflicts and altercations at shows, hip-hop concerts were constantly under threat of being banned or over-policed in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of artists and promoters would turn to the Bay Area suburbs and central valley to do hip-hop events. But Youth Uprising was one of the venues in Oakland working to connect young fans to the local stars. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> A lot of artists would stop through and perform, and I think they loved being able to connect with the young people and be a source of inspiration. And then the young people were excited because they never knew who was gonna stop by and what was gonna happen next.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, that was me, one of the young folks juiced to be at the center. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I initially started by catching the bus up there after hearing about it from friends. But when I got my car, this plum colored Chrysler Sebring with a functional sunroof and dysfunctional sound system, I was there. Well, until the transmission died, then I was back on the bus. But either way, I was fasho pulling up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’d bounce out with the same camcorder I filmed Stomper going dumb with, show love to the security guards, and then, as a young journalist trying to get on, I’d find my way to interviewing folks like E-40, Mistah FAB, Vidal White, Too $hort, The Husalah, The Jacka and later, Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums. I have a few photos from back then, not much video. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I look back at the few photos I have of myself from back then? Man, I was in it! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Specifically this one photo of me sitting in the audience of a dance battle, wearing an oversized t-shirt, baggy jeans, and those knock off Jordans that Zeus roasted me about, while holding on to that camcorder. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I was in it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was one of the many young folks who ascribed to a culture that was having its moment in the sun, despite the ever-present dark clouds. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the day, Jeriel Bey taught classes at Youth Uprising. In addition to that, he choreographed dances for music videos and performances. He also threw dance events–including battles between cities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right before one event in Los Angeles, Demetrius Zigler, who used to hang out in front of Jeriel’s house, was killed. In response, Jeriel and his dance team, the Architeckz, danced in the battle in Demetrius’ honor. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I remember us all having this sweater, his picture, like, you know, on the hoodies, which is synonymous with losing someone on the street. So we had him on our hoodies. We drove down to L.A.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel and his team won the battle, but they did so while mourning their friend. Full of mixed emotions, they made the drive back to Northern California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I’m tired, everybody is sleep in the van. I get a call, I think, from Jacky Johnson. She’s like, ‘Yeah, you know, E-40 heard about your guy being killed, and um and they want to put you on this video called, Tell Me When to Go.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Record scratch]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I said, the song I’d been hearing on the Radio? She goes ‘Yeah. They’re shooting in West Oakland right now.’ I’m like, damn, I live in West Oakland like we’re all by the train station. What? That’s three blocks away from me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Cool. I wake up everybody, I’m like a man we finna go shoot a video. ‘What video?’ Tell Me When to Go. ‘What?!’ We smash to West Oakland, we pull up to the house, we take a little hoe baths and shit, wash our faces and shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They get to the set, and 40, Lil Jon and the production team are moving through scenes. The iconic opening of the video, with a circle of folks going dumb on the ground shaking their dreads? That’s not them. That’s another dance crew. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After rushing to the set, rehearsing an impromptu routine and getting ready for their light, Jeriel and the Architeckz almost get skipped over. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And they was like ‘We gon’ give you one shot, let me see what y’all got.’ And then the rest is history. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The black and white footage from the video shows the group forming a semicircle, with the opening facing the camera. They dance aggressively, hittin’ signature turf dance moves as well as shaking their dreads. The majority of them are wearing the hoodies dedicated to Demetrius. Dancing in his honor, they left an impression on the filmmakers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We shot like three more times after that. And before the video came out, it was, ‘Oh, good job, Architects,’ oh, E-40, people loved us, ‘Oh, ‘Demetrius, rest in peace, Demetrius, aww community community,’ but as soon as that muthafucka hit MTV, it was like, ‘Man them niggas ain’t really from Oakland tho.’ It’s all the hate and then the bullshit came.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People were congratulating them on the video set, but were critical once the video came out. Jeriel says that other artists, dancers and people from the Bay Area hip-hop community made comments about the fact that Jeriel is originally from LA, or that the Architeckz weren’t that tight. Jeriel was shocked.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s when I realized, like, yo, people can love you on the way up, but the envy is a muthafucka. Envy will get you killed out here when people feel like they deserve more than you and I experienced all that shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel says people were envious of the Architeckz success. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, really it was misguided anger – a byproduct of the lack of resources. If there were more limelight, everyone could shine. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But that video being on MTV, and the media attention that was focused on the hoods of the Bay Area during the Hyphy Movement came on the heels of years of media neglect. So folks were hungry, vying for an opening. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some artists were over-promoting this hyphy thing. A few big media platforms, clothing lines, club promoters, even community centers were selling it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s Zeus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Man, to be honest with you, I don’t think Youth Uprising would have been that impactful if it wasn’t for the dance culture, because a lot of people were showing up for the dance culture and staying for the resources, you know what I mean?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jacky saw it differently, and has the same sentiments as Zeus. After the dance battles, how do you connect folks with counseling, healthcare and other resources? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We’re like, okay, well how do we move these young people into our programming? And that would sometimes be a challenge because I think sometimes we felt really- I felt for sure stressed out about like, okay, like are we doing enough if they’re coming here and they’re not going into a, you know, career and education program.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The whole situation made Jacky frustrated. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You have to hit these deliverables. It’s like, how do you, like, okay, you get this amount of money now go and transform somebody’s life as they’ve, yeah, experienced all this trauma and need all of the- these things, or the fact that we all are going through our own shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Youth Uprising center has gone through its ups and downs, but it still stands today. And back when it first opened, even with all of the elements at play, the center was a beacon for kids like me and Zeus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[crowd cheering]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We on the bus, catching the 57 from West Oakland all the way to 88 and MacArthur, and this is when it was super turfed out. I’m talking about real hood, so we up there battling cats, Like around the stage it was like 300 people, like hanging over, just having hella fun tho. But you would have different people from different sides of the city come out and battle each other. And that’s how you earned your respect. Like with dancing, you earn your respect because you’re \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">way\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> somewhere in somebody else’s hood, and you could be battling they friend. But if you raw, they gon be like you raw bruh. Like I still know people to this day from me meeting them at Youth Uprising.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Those experiences. That community. Those intangibles. They don’t show up in a fiscal report. They show up in people’s memories. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I have mental pictures of audiences going wild after someone hit a backflip during a dance battle, fond memories of meeting a new crush after the conclusion of an event. And I even have one picture from that day that E-40 pulled up for a photo shoot. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We really wanted to create a safe space from the violence, safe space from the police, um, where we kind of held it down and it was just this raw energy. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Youth Uprising was one of the many nonprofits that both invested in, and benefited from the culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Its location, resources, and connections to big name-artists made it significant. But the youth programs, they were just a Band-Aid in the face of generations of neglected neighborhoods and people living in poverty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The trauma that we inherited existed long before we did, and still, we found joy in the middle of all that. Some of the moments turned into photos, others are invisible memories that are stories waiting to be told. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the stories – the way they were told, who told them and what stories were not told – well that’s another layer to the trauma. We’ll get into all of that in the next episode.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just the term “hyphy,” was, it meant something completely different to what it was commercialized as. You know what I mean? It it wasn’t a good thing, you know what I’m saying? Like, they didn’t say like, Oh, them kids is hyphy, and that meant that they were just dancing around having a good time. No, that means that they were destructive and violent, you know? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is Hyphy kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hosted by me, Pendarvis Harshaw\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Produced by Maya Cueva\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Edited by Chris Hambrick\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sound design and original music by\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Trackademics\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With support from Eric Arnold, Jen Chien, Holly Kernan, Victoria Mauleon, Marisol Medina-Cadena, Gabe Meline, Xorje Olivares, Delency Parham, Cesar Saldaña, Sayre Quevedo, Katie Sprenger, Nastia Voynovskaya, and Ryce Stoughtenborough. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This project was produced with support from PRX and is made possible, in part, by a grant from the John S. and James L. 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","title":"Hyphy Kids Got Trauma Pt. 2, ‘We Dance Different’ | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Hyphy Kids Got Trauma Pt. 2, ‘We Dance Different’","datePublished":"2023-09-28T03:00:52-07:00","dateModified":"2024-01-11T12:01:52-08:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"hyphy-kids-got-trauma-pt-2-we-dance-different","status":"publish","templateType":"standard","audioUrl":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/chrt.fm/track/G6C7C3/traffic.megaphone.fm/KQINC4775019711.mp3?updated=1695860136","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","featuredImageType":"standard","sticky":false,"articleAge":"0","path":"/arts/13935408/hyphy-kids-got-trauma-pt-2-we-dance-different","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the spring of 2006, I filmed and posted a video to Youth Radio’s YouTube page titled “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdst63FWSCs\">Stomper Go Dumb\u003c/a>.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The video shows the Oakland A’s mascot, a big plush elephant in a baseball jersey and hat, dancing to a song titled “Happy To Be Here,” off of E-40’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My Ghetto Report Card\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> album. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">E-40 delivers lyrics that speak of surviving hard times and losing loved ones along the way. As the music plays, Stomper glides through the parking lot, dancing with the people, one with the letters “RIP” airbrushed on their shirt. A few folks hug each other and smile. This video clip, only a minute in length, is a window into a world where dance and jubilation meet mourning and sadness.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title='Youth Radio: Stomper \"Go Dumb\"' width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/zdst63FWSCs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen>\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before the “hyphy movement,” and even prior to having its own name, the style of dance now commonly known as turfin’ or\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\"> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">turf dancing\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> provided an outlet for young folks in Oakland. They could party to their favorite music, have fun by physically telling stories, and express themselves while\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> taking up room on the floor\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Through appearances in big-time music videos and participation in dance battles at places like Deep East Oakland’s Youth Uprising Center, young folks not only got to show their moves — they were also able to honor their deceased loved ones.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this episode, we talk to \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/turfinentertainment/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jeriel Bey\u003c/a>, the person credited with coining the term “turfin’,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/jackyj510/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jacky Johnson\u003c/a>, a founding Youth Uprising staff member, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/zeusdadunka/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jesus El, \u003c/a>my longtime friend and a well-known turf dancer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13935479\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13935479\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-800x623.jpg\" alt=\"Jeriel Bey teaches Turf Dancing classes at Berkeley High School in 2007.\" width=\"800\" height=\"623\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-800x623.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1020x795.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-160x125.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-768x599.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1536x1197.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-2048x1596.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1920x1496.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jeriel Bey teaches turf dancing classes at Berkeley High School in 2007. \u003ccite>(Carlos Avila Gonzalez/San Francisco Chronicle/Getty Images )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC4775019711&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw, Host: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Heads up, this podcast contains explicit language.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the spring of 2006, there was this video posted on Youtube titled “Stomper Go Dumb.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[chatter, shouting, and cheering from the Stomper Go Dumb video]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The clip is less than a minute long, but it shows something that’s really important. It’s shot in a parking lot. It’s Stomper, the Oakland A’s mascot– a big gray plush elephant in white pants and a forest green and gold baseball jersey. And he’s out there giggin’ to an E-40 song. Ears flapping, feet sliding, arms waving, Stomper is in full party mode, and so are the folks around him. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Behind the camera is me. In the footage, Stomper gets close to the camera, daps me up, then he proceeds to glide across the pavement, pausing momentarily to act as if he’s ghostriding the whip, and then he thizz dances. Another guy in an airbrushed white-t stands next to him, giggin’ as well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The guy’s shirt has the letters RIP boldly written next to an illegible name. And they’re all dancing to E-40’s “Happy to Be Here.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Happy to be Here by E-40 plays]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The track is off of 40’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My Ghetto Report Card \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">album, one of the few slower tracks off of his landmark project, which is chock full of high energy party anthems. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But in that moment, as we’re posted in front of E-40’s album release party at Tower Records, it’s this song that plays as the A’s mascot is showing off his gigs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People are dancing and laughing, embracing each other and celebrating, despite having the letters RIP and their friends’ names written across their chest. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Happy to be Here by E-40 fades in]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Oooh; it’s gloomy out here, dark days ahead\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">God got my back but the devil he want my head”\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After I shot the video, I posted it to the YouTube page for Youth Radio, now known as YR Media. I was a baby reporter working with them at the time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And with this video racking up half a million views, and hella people using this footage as GIFs on social media platforms, it was clear that I’d documented something significant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Deeper than a dancing elephant, it was a window into the culture. I’m Pendarvis Harshaw, and this is Hyphy Kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In that video of Stomper dancing to an E-40 song, the mascot does a few more dance moves, and then gives an extended embrace to a brotha with cornrows in a black leather jacket. The person inside the Stomper mascot outfit is saying what’s up to my right hand man, Jesus El, Zeus as we call him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s just a couple inches taller than me, born exactly three weeks before me, and we’re a lot alike. We’re socialites; neither of us can stay away from a party. Oakland proud, we both love the town and constantly get caught up in our own thoughts about how to save it – and the world, for that matter.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While I chose to sit down and write for a living, Zeus chose to fly. A trained gymnast, for over a decade he worked for the NBA, majority of that time was with the Golden State Warriors as an acro-dunker. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[hip-hop music echoes inside of stadium with a cheering crowd]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That means that at halftime of a game he’d come out with his crew – the Warriors’ Team Thunder dunk team – and run across the court, bounce off a trampoline, elevate higher than the rim, catch the ball mid-air, wink at the camera, and then dunk the ball before safely returning to earth. Outside of that, he’s also a well-known dancer from West Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I got this photo in my text message today. What’s going on here?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, man, that’s crazy. That’s a throwback. So this photo is of me dancing at Youth Uprising in a dance battle. Uh, and I look super young and skinny.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We grew up in different parts of the Town, and met during a 7th grade summer program– cracking jokes on the back of the bus. And after twenty-plus years, we haven’t stopped cracking jokes since. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The jordans – are those the fake Jordans we got? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think those was the fake Jordans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The fake Jordans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yours was fakers than mine though.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Faker? How they– if they fake, they fake. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If they fake they fake, but yours… your Jordan had buttcheeks. Remember that?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He was facing the wrong way.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He was facing the wrong way and he had the buttcheeks showing. Mine, I could at least, you know, well I was getting away with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You just gotta pull the jeans down.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I had to pull the jeans– yeah, I had to wear the big jeans over him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cb>\u003ci> \u003c/i>\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in ‘06 we were broke community college students taking classes at Laney in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Zeus had dreams of becoming an NBA mascot, and was simultaneously developing his own acro-dunking team. I was focused on doing journalism, and had just got accepted to Howard University. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So while I was spending the year getting ready for college on the east coast and getting my journalism chops up, Zeus was building his own legacy, both in the Town and around the globe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve been to China ten times, been to Italy, um, Rome, Japan, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Mexico…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He adds England, Budapest, and all of North America. He’s performed for Ripley’s Believe It or Not, holds a couple Guinness World Records, and in 2005 he performed in front of some of the biggest names in the business at the NBA All Star game in Denver, Colorado.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I met Destiny’s Child. They like, room was right next door to ours. Jay-Z, Chris Tucker, we met so many different people…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Zeus got his start after being mentored by the late Sadiki Fuller, the guy who wore the Thunder mascot costume for the Golden State Warriors. And that’s how Zeus got to know other mascots– like Stomper. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Zeus’ main inspiration came from superheroes in movies and television shows. In his own way, Zeus was a superhero when he was on the court. And just like any superhero, he’d be treated differently when he took the cape, or um, uniform off. He would leave the old Warriors arena in East Oakland and he’d transition, like Superman to Clark Kent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I had times where I’m having the day of my life. Like, I just did a new dunk, I’m the first person to do it. I do it in front of people. I make it. I’m feeling like on cloud nine…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> …and then I get back, you know everybody leaving the BART, and uh people don’t have to notice me—I’m not tripping off of that. But then, you know, people clutching they purse or, you know, like, just trying to, like, stand away from me, you know what I mean. I’m like, bruh, you was just clapping for me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Just like that, you was just clapping for me, and now I’m just another nigga that may bring harm your way and that’s trauma within itself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s trauma in that duality of physically showing joy, and being celebrated and then getting hit with the weight of reality. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In order to escape it, Zeus would literally leave. He found solace in seeing the world. But despite the freedom he felt traveling back then, Zeus knew he had to keep his stories close to the chest because of how smirkish people can be. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I remember just traveling like, I mean, soon as, aw man, soon as I touch that airplane: Oakland is in Oakland. I’m going global, I’m out. Right?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then when I come home, I have to pretend like I’m not that person.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You gotta dumb it down? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I gotta dumb it down all the time. Because, one, people… people who speak too highly of themselves are typically the ones who end up shot first, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They typically the ones that people target. It could be jealousy. It could be hate. It could be all kind of stuff. But people who… sometimes you got to just stay under the radar to survive. That’s how we survived this long.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> As confining as that might seem, it was kind of the code, still is. The Town is a place where you gotta stay low even as you come up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But on the contrary, Zeus was getting his limelight on the hoop courts. And outside of that, he was cutting up on the dancefloor– that’s where he really escaped, specifically, through the art of turf dancing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Turf Dancing is an acronym called Taking Up Room on the Floor that was coined by Jeriel Bey. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So turf dancing, it’s a style of dance that derives from Oakland. And it’s storytelling and it’s certain moves that you do, but it’s storytelling. It’s waving, gliding, all of that but it’s a certain swag that comes with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But before it was even called turfing, it was called hitting it or touching it or fucking wit it. Like, ‘fuck wit it bruh’, ya know what im saying? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel Bey, raised between Oakland and LA, is a marketing minded brother who had turf dancing, lightweight, land on his doorstep.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They know me as the godfather of turf dancing. I coined the phrase, a lot of people are like ‘you didn’t coin the phrase!’ But you know coining is something you use before anybody else use it. So I used it in both, in print and on my fliers, you know, my events, you know, just… I knew long ago just from having a lot of internships that, you know, you brand yourself, you know how to brand myself. So I definitely am known for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel was a party promoter, who was living in West Oakland and that’s where, two young dudes from the neighborhood, Demtrius Zeigler and Cory Johnson AKA Scooby, would hang around his house.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Those are the two first kids I met and then those two kids brought every other kid around me. You know, these kids, like, 14, 15, with sawed off shotguns in their backpacks. Like, bad but good kids, they just needed some focus. And the only thing they all knew that they all knew how to do was dance. Guns, and money, drugs and all, they all was coming in front of the house, dancing with me. And so my thing was like, okay, I got to give back and give ’em something to do.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The dance sessions brought about dope moves, clean gigs and hyped reactions. The problem was: the dance they were doing didn’t really have a name. There were notable moves: the drop, the airwalk, the old school Brookfield. But the overall dance style was kinda just a part of Oakland culture. That’s how we moved. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, at the same time, the terms folks were using to describe the dance style weren’t exactly marketable to the venues Jeriel was looking to work with. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was like man, I can’t sell this as ‘fucking with it’ or ‘giggin’. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So Jeriel started brainstorming, and during a conversation with one of his cousins, it all clicked. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Man, I got these youngstas in front of the house, you remember Demetrius and Scooby? They be ‘fuckin wit it’ and shit, you know, they all be dance differently: the East Oakland, the West Oakland, you know? They all dance different. Like I said, like different turfs and they all dance different…Man, how does turf dancing sound? He was like, ‘Oh, yeah, that’s it. That’s, that’s it right there!’ \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so that’s what it was. Everywhere the little homies was going, ‘What ya’ll doing?’ We turf dancing, we turf dancing. And that’s how it stuck. Even when I did community events in the City, I made sure they put it on the fliers, we turf dancing. We’re not “hyphy dancers,” hyphy was kind of like the energy, the spirit, the movement. But, you know, turfing is how we was able to separate ourselves from the energy, you know, we was turf dancing. We wasn’t hyphy dancing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Turf dancing – a mixture of boogaloo, poplock, pantomime, and being player while moving on beat – was something different than just going 18 dummy like some might imagine when we’re talking “hyphy” dancing. I mean, that was a part of it, but it was deeper than just shaking yo’ dreads. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Echo of E-40 saying “Shake them dreads.”]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was a world of Bay Area storytelling through dance, complete with signature moves from certain neighborhoods. Hence the name “turf” dancing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And people would dance everywhere, at the bus stop, the house party, The candy shop – which was this fake-teenager-club-function thing that didn’t serve alcohol but was somehow still full of faded teenagers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We hit it at the sideshow, on a car, in a car. In the school hallway, acting as if you were a car. And, at your local community center, specifically this one called Youth Uprising. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Youth Uprising opened in 2005, it was this sleek looking youth center located on 87th and MacArthur in East Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A huge-freshly painted state of the art building with bright colors that stood in contrast to the surrounding apartment buildings and the adjacent school – Castlemont High School– an institution that had been under-resourced for years, and it showed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Inside of Youth Uprising, the building was well-decorated with artwork and photos. They offered healthy meals to teenagers who came from the surrounding community, as well as employment and educational resources. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’d go up there and kick it in the music studios or attend discussions about the state of the community. And I’d also hit the dance battles they threw– turf dance battles. Here’s founding Youth Uprising staff member Jacky Johnson. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We stopped publicizing them after a while. We would just like announce the day of we were gonna do it because they would just get so like crazy. Like, our little amphitheater would just be packed. And we would see, like, young people running down the hill across MacArthur from, um, up the hill just run cutting through like, backyards to run over to the center.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jacky is a longtime community advocate who works at the intersection of social justice and entertainment. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the day, she got her start as a young adult on the staff of Youth Uprising. One of her tasks was to organize and promote the turf dance battle events. And through that, she saw how important dancing was to the culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The crowd fueled the dancers. The dancers fueled the crowd. Like it was just this perfect mixture of just a showing of what, um, Oakland, of what the Bay Area’s energy is about. And I just think of that time, I always reflect on, you can’t, you know, I, I hope that young people or, you know, other generations, they’ll have their own moments like that, but that, to me, that just feels like a moment that couldn’t… couldn’t be duplicated.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The dance battles would be roughly once a month, and they’d garner all kinds of attention. Makes sense, we didn’t have much else to do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of this culture was born out of a void. There weren’t many places in Oakland where folks could congregate for large scale-hip-hop events, and it had been that way. Because of previous conflicts and altercations at shows, hip-hop concerts were constantly under threat of being banned or over-policed in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of artists and promoters would turn to the Bay Area suburbs and central valley to do hip-hop events. But Youth Uprising was one of the venues in Oakland working to connect young fans to the local stars. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> A lot of artists would stop through and perform, and I think they loved being able to connect with the young people and be a source of inspiration. And then the young people were excited because they never knew who was gonna stop by and what was gonna happen next.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, that was me, one of the young folks juiced to be at the center. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I initially started by catching the bus up there after hearing about it from friends. But when I got my car, this plum colored Chrysler Sebring with a functional sunroof and dysfunctional sound system, I was there. Well, until the transmission died, then I was back on the bus. But either way, I was fasho pulling up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’d bounce out with the same camcorder I filmed Stomper going dumb with, show love to the security guards, and then, as a young journalist trying to get on, I’d find my way to interviewing folks like E-40, Mistah FAB, Vidal White, Too $hort, The Husalah, The Jacka and later, Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums. I have a few photos from back then, not much video. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I look back at the few photos I have of myself from back then? Man, I was in it! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Specifically this one photo of me sitting in the audience of a dance battle, wearing an oversized t-shirt, baggy jeans, and those knock off Jordans that Zeus roasted me about, while holding on to that camcorder. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I was in it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was one of the many young folks who ascribed to a culture that was having its moment in the sun, despite the ever-present dark clouds. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the day, Jeriel Bey taught classes at Youth Uprising. In addition to that, he choreographed dances for music videos and performances. He also threw dance events–including battles between cities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right before one event in Los Angeles, Demetrius Zigler, who used to hang out in front of Jeriel’s house, was killed. In response, Jeriel and his dance team, the Architeckz, danced in the battle in Demetrius’ honor. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I remember us all having this sweater, his picture, like, you know, on the hoodies, which is synonymous with losing someone on the street. So we had him on our hoodies. We drove down to L.A.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel and his team won the battle, but they did so while mourning their friend. Full of mixed emotions, they made the drive back to Northern California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I’m tired, everybody is sleep in the van. I get a call, I think, from Jacky Johnson. She’s like, ‘Yeah, you know, E-40 heard about your guy being killed, and um and they want to put you on this video called, Tell Me When to Go.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Record scratch]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I said, the song I’d been hearing on the Radio? She goes ‘Yeah. They’re shooting in West Oakland right now.’ I’m like, damn, I live in West Oakland like we’re all by the train station. What? That’s three blocks away from me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Cool. I wake up everybody, I’m like a man we finna go shoot a video. ‘What video?’ Tell Me When to Go. ‘What?!’ We smash to West Oakland, we pull up to the house, we take a little hoe baths and shit, wash our faces and shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They get to the set, and 40, Lil Jon and the production team are moving through scenes. The iconic opening of the video, with a circle of folks going dumb on the ground shaking their dreads? That’s not them. That’s another dance crew. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After rushing to the set, rehearsing an impromptu routine and getting ready for their light, Jeriel and the Architeckz almost get skipped over. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And they was like ‘We gon’ give you one shot, let me see what y’all got.’ And then the rest is history. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The black and white footage from the video shows the group forming a semicircle, with the opening facing the camera. They dance aggressively, hittin’ signature turf dance moves as well as shaking their dreads. The majority of them are wearing the hoodies dedicated to Demetrius. Dancing in his honor, they left an impression on the filmmakers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We shot like three more times after that. And before the video came out, it was, ‘Oh, good job, Architects,’ oh, E-40, people loved us, ‘Oh, ‘Demetrius, rest in peace, Demetrius, aww community community,’ but as soon as that muthafucka hit MTV, it was like, ‘Man them niggas ain’t really from Oakland tho.’ It’s all the hate and then the bullshit came.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People were congratulating them on the video set, but were critical once the video came out. Jeriel says that other artists, dancers and people from the Bay Area hip-hop community made comments about the fact that Jeriel is originally from LA, or that the Architeckz weren’t that tight. Jeriel was shocked.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s when I realized, like, yo, people can love you on the way up, but the envy is a muthafucka. Envy will get you killed out here when people feel like they deserve more than you and I experienced all that shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel says people were envious of the Architeckz success. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, really it was misguided anger – a byproduct of the lack of resources. If there were more limelight, everyone could shine. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But that video being on MTV, and the media attention that was focused on the hoods of the Bay Area during the Hyphy Movement came on the heels of years of media neglect. So folks were hungry, vying for an opening. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some artists were over-promoting this hyphy thing. A few big media platforms, clothing lines, club promoters, even community centers were selling it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s Zeus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Man, to be honest with you, I don’t think Youth Uprising would have been that impactful if it wasn’t for the dance culture, because a lot of people were showing up for the dance culture and staying for the resources, you know what I mean?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jacky saw it differently, and has the same sentiments as Zeus. 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It’s like, how do you, like, okay, you get this amount of money now go and transform somebody’s life as they’ve, yeah, experienced all this trauma and need all of the- these things, or the fact that we all are going through our own shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Youth Uprising center has gone through its ups and downs, but it still stands today. And back when it first opened, even with all of the elements at play, the center was a beacon for kids like me and Zeus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[crowd cheering]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We on the bus, catching the 57 from West Oakland all the way to 88 and MacArthur, and this is when it was super turfed out. I’m talking about real hood, so we up there battling cats, Like around the stage it was like 300 people, like hanging over, just having hella fun tho. But you would have different people from different sides of the city come out and battle each other. And that’s how you earned your respect. Like with dancing, you earn your respect because you’re \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">way\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> somewhere in somebody else’s hood, and you could be battling they friend. But if you raw, they gon be like you raw bruh. Like I still know people to this day from me meeting them at Youth Uprising.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Those experiences. That community. Those intangibles. They don’t show up in a fiscal report. They show up in people’s memories. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I have mental pictures of audiences going wild after someone hit a backflip during a dance battle, fond memories of meeting a new crush after the conclusion of an event. And I even have one picture from that day that E-40 pulled up for a photo shoot. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We really wanted to create a safe space from the violence, safe space from the police, um, where we kind of held it down and it was just this raw energy. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Youth Uprising was one of the many nonprofits that both invested in, and benefited from the culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Its location, resources, and connections to big name-artists made it significant. But the youth programs, they were just a Band-Aid in the face of generations of neglected neighborhoods and people living in poverty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The trauma that we inherited existed long before we did, and still, we found joy in the middle of all that. Some of the moments turned into photos, others are invisible memories that are stories waiting to be told. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the stories – the way they were told, who told them and what stories were not told – well that’s another layer to the trauma. We’ll get into all of that in the next episode.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just the term “hyphy,” was, it meant something completely different to what it was commercialized as. You know what I mean? It it wasn’t a good thing, you know what I’m saying? Like, they didn’t say like, Oh, them kids is hyphy, and that meant that they were just dancing around having a good time. No, that means that they were destructive and violent, you know? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is Hyphy kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hosted by me, Pendarvis Harshaw\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Produced by Maya Cueva\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Edited by Chris Hambrick\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sound design and original music by\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Trackademics\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With support from Eric Arnold, Jen Chien, Holly Kernan, Victoria Mauleon, Marisol Medina-Cadena, Gabe Meline, Xorje Olivares, Delency Parham, Cesar Saldaña, Sayre Quevedo, Katie Sprenger, Nastia Voynovskaya, and Ryce Stoughtenborough. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This project was produced with support from PRX and is made possible, in part, by a grant from the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And this is a part of KQED’s That’s My Word project, a year-long exploration of Bay Area Hip-Hop history. Find more at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://bayareahiphop.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BayAreaHipHop.Com\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">RIP Demtrius Zigler, and so many more. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Until next time, peace. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003cem>Rightnowish is an arts and culture podcast produced at KQED. 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