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And it also features potato wedges, which you wouldn’t necessarily see in a Caesar salad, but it works so well. Crunchy on the outside. Really nice and soft on the inside. So flavorful. And it’s just — it’s a beautifully prepared salad. And don’t miss the pâté. It’s a French country-style pâté accompanied with a lovely mustard, cornichons, fried capers, and a beautiful baguette. It’s just spectacular. He has an amazing curated list of wines that he offers. That particular day I had the CdP. I will spare myself with trying to pronounce it correctly.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1195\" data-end=\"1198\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1198\" data-end=\"1217\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The Châteauneuf-du-Pape.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1242\" data-end=\"1245\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1245\" data-end=\"1266\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That one. 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A calamari steak po’boy, which was just great.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1873\" data-end=\"1876\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1893\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Oooh.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1899\" data-end=\"1902\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1902\" data-end=\"1923\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Really nice crunch to the calamari that’s really perfectly breaded. Juicy, soft. It has this relish on it that pairs so nicely with the calamari. Super-soft bread. It’s amazing. The other item that I don’t know if you had a chance to try is the beef rib. It’s a monster of a beef rib. The char that it has on it. And just…\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2248\" data-end=\"2251\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2251\" data-end=\"2269\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Like the brisket.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2287\" data-end=\"2290\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2290\" data-end=\"2311\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, and just how juicy it is and flavorful and melts in your mouth. It’s an amazing rib.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2401\" data-end=\"2404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2423\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is it for one person? Or five? [Laughter]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2465\" data-end=\"2468\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2468\" data-end=\"2489\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I would say one of their ribs would be more than enough for two people to share.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2570\" data-end=\"2573\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2592\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2598\" data-end=\"2601\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2601\" data-end=\"2618\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I know it’s called The Meatery, but what was really delicious that I would go back there for was their mac-n-cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2735\" data-end=\"2738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2738\" data-end=\"2757\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2761\" data-end=\"2764\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2764\" data-end=\"2781\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did you try that?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2799\" data-end=\"2802\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2802\" data-end=\"2823\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, mac-n-cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2842\" data-end=\"2845\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2845\" data-end=\"2862\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh, so it’s a blend of cheeses that’s just exquisite. We ordered one to share at the table and we’re all, like, just starting. Oh, it was gone in a flash.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3026\" data-end=\"3029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3029\" data-end=\"3050\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] But the thing about their mac-n-cheese that’s different is it has a bit of, like, pimento flavor.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3157\" data-end=\"3160\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3160\" data-end=\"3181\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3186\" data-end=\"3189\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3189\" data-end=\"3206\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> My family, we love pimento cheese dip. It’s, like, the fact that that was, like, in their mac-n-cheese was so good. And they sell a container of it that you can take and bake at home, and I had it again that night because we got that container.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3451\" data-end=\"3454\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3454\" data-end=\"3473\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You got that container.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3497\" data-end=\"3500\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3500\" data-end=\"3517\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It was so good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3533\" data-end=\"3536\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3536\" data-end=\"3554\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> They had a lot of beautiful things to take home, and I took home quite a few. [Laughter] They had these marinated mushrooms.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3679\" data-end=\"3682\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3682\" data-end=\"3699\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mmm.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3704\" data-end=\"3707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3707\" data-end=\"3725\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> All these, like, garlic butters and just all these things that would make a meal at home wonderful.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3825\" data-end=\"3828\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3828\" data-end=\"3849\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3856\" data-end=\"3859\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3859\" data-end=\"3878\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Meatery, butchery, eatery, shoppery.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3915\" data-end=\"3918\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3918\" data-end=\"3936\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3950\" data-end=\"3953\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3953\" data-end=\"3970\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3979\" data-end=\"3982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3982\" data-end=\"4003\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> One-stop shop.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4021\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4021\" data-end=\"4040\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] Alright. If you would like to try The Meatery Butchery & Eatery, it’s located on Fremont Boulevard in Seaside. And the average tab per person without drinks is around $30. Vicki’s restaurant is the quintessential definition of a hidden gem. Tucked inside a rare and used book shop, it’s a cozy little spot for curries, roti, and other traditional Thai delights. Located in downtown Santa Cruz, it’s Hanloh Thai Food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Lalita Kaewsawang:\u003c/strong> Hanloh Thai Food — well, we cook really good Thai food, and a lot of them come from my childhood. So this is nam prik lon, the crabmeat coconut relish. I always try to tell a story. Every dish that’s on the menu has a part of me in it somewhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Hanloh started in 2018. We were doing pop-ups and catering everywhere. And in 2021, I got a call from Bad Animal, which is a bookstore and a wine bar in Santa Cruz, to be a chef residency. It’s pretty casual, very Santa Cruz. Never in my life I thought I would be opening a restaurant in a bookstore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I started cooking because that’s how I stay connected to home. My mother is a street food vendor in Bangkok, and she’s really inspired me to cook. The street vendors have very focused menus and I love their movements. I love how meticulous their ingredients are. I’m very inspired by that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I established my career in Santa Cruz, I started to realize, to make this unique, you have to use local ingredients.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the dishes on our menu is roti martabak, which has a lot of Indian influence and Muslim influence. My mother is Muslim Thai. So this is a dish that is a homage to my mom and to her heritage. So I chose to make it all vegan. It’s like a blend of Thai culture and Santa Cruz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The nice part about us being in a bookstore is sometimes when people have to wait, they can get a glass of wine and browse the book, and it doesn’t feel like they’re actually waiting that much longer. They wait for a while, but it doesn’t feel like it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our food is made for sharing, so order family style, a couple glasses of wine. It’s pretty chill. [Laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, Vicki, so, hidden inside a used bookstore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It’s called Bad Animal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And the Bad Animal is an American badger, which is one of my favorite animals! I sat —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You can tell us about that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah! They’re ferocious, but so cool. But I sat right underneath a taxidermied badger. Just like all the stuff on the wall — not just the bookstore — the bookstore was wonderful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It’s just — it’s such a great feeling when you’re in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Very Santa Cruz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Very Santa Cruz. That’s a great point.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I just kept saying, “This place is so hip.” You’re hanging out, you’re talking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They’re not turning tables.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> They’re not. That’s not what they’re for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Vicki, so many dishes to try. But do you have a favorite?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I do. My favorite is an appetizer. I think it’s called nam prik lon. And it is a beautiful crab custard with a lot of fresh crab. It has makrut leaves. The preparation of all the vegetables is like a feast for the eyes. And then the shrimp crackers that you dip in. And it’s absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> So we sat down and we saw this dish keep going out to all of these different tables, and we asked our server, “What is that?” And she said, “Oh, it’s my favorite salad. You have to get it.” It was the yum galumpii. It was with tofu. Just perfectly cooked. Crispy on the outside, warm and soft, like almost gooey tofu on the inside. It had all of the cabbage and cilantro and lime, was really, really fresh flavors. But then there was a crunch with the peanuts in there. We just devoured it, and I could have just had like three of those salads for my dinner. I crave it, and I want to go back for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you start with anything?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I did. I had the scallop salad, and that salad — I would go back just for that salad. It was so good. The scallops with a dried shrimp also. They just — they were paired beautifully together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Have you had this salad before?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We did, we did. It just — the scallops are melt-in-your-mouth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And then, yeah, it comes with lettuce so you can wrap it. It was just dressed perfectly, because you could taste the makrut lime, you could taste the fish sauce. But nothing was overpowering. Just fresh and delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So a good way to start, with a salad, one of the salads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Good way to start is with the salad. The fried chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Oh, gosh. The fried chicken is just perfectly prepared.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All three of you are going…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes. The fried chicken, super crispy on the outside, super juicy on the inside, paired with a sauce that was just really a nice complement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It was perfectly fried.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And the presentation is so beautiful. They’ve made the cucumber look so pretty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> It’s so good. It’s — always. Melt in your mouth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I love the cod.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> You talked about “melt in your mouth” with the other dish, but the cod…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s fabulous. And it’s local and it’s sustainable, but it just flakes apart. And it was like we just kept saying, like, “Is this butter? Are we eating butter?” ’cause it was just so flavorful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And it’s steamed in a broth, a spicy kind of…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> …lemongrass broth with a little chili. I mean, it so perfect…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Lime and coconut in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> …to put the jasmine rice in to soak it all up. So it was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And then the wine, they have all these natural wines. We got this really nice German white wine that paired perfectly with everything we got.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We haven’t talked about the roti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s delicious. We had the roti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> You did?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes, we did. And it’s stuffed with yams and caramelized onions. And I was like, “Oh, my gosh, it feels like I’m eating fall.” But it’s paired with a really light cucumber salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I was like, oh, my goodness. The combination, it’s like fall and spring together in one plate. It was so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> What did you get for dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> A coconut-pandan custard. And the waiter that brought it out, he, like, leaned over to us and said, “You’re gonna love this. I can’t get enough of it.” And so the custard itself was really thick, but also light, because it’s coconut, but it was green. And I was like, “Wait, why is it green?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Pandan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Well, pandan is — yeah. It’s like a tropical plant…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> …that’s mixed in with the coconut. And it was served with this brioche bread. The brioche was so buttery and you dip it in there, and, ohh, it was so good. But we also got the coconut ice cream with that beautiful cookie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> With the little cookie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> With the cookie. Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> So delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s so pretty too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Didn’t last. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Ours didn’t either.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I feel like the dishes were like her work of art, the chef’s work of art.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The quality and the preparation of everything that we received that day that we ordered was really great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Every person I know that has gone there has really loved it, so I’m happy that you liked it too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Well, you can count one more on that list. It was very tasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Two more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Enjoyed it very.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, if you would like to try Hanloh Thai Food, it’s located on Cedar Street in Santa Cruz. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $75.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ashley’s nautically themed restaurant holds a special place in her heart. It’s where she got engaged. Step onto the terrace with a cocktail in hand and the ocean breeze in your hair, and it’s not hard to feel a romantic vibe settling in. Located inside Monterey Plaza Hotel, it’s Schooners Monterey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>[music playing]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> Schooners is really our quintessential Monterey restaurant. Our location is right on Cannery Row. Very historic. You can see one of the last canneries adjacent to our restaurant. I’m originally from Boston, Massachusetts. I gravitate towards water, so being here on the Pacific really makes me feel at home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our menu is based on the seasons. All our seafood is sustainable. We really listen to our fishermen. Whatever type of seafood is at the highest quality is what kind of is gonna get my attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> I’m really super proud that we put on some local Monterey anchovies. We cure it, pickle it, and it goes on this amazing toasted focaccia bread. Just a couple one-biters, but it really is a great way to start your meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> Tell me when.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> That’s when. When.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> A lot of people ask me what is the secret to our clam chowder. Well, it is a secret, but we do use sherry wine that has this beautiful kind of undertone. It’s creamy. It’s delicious. It’s super yummy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We hollow out this sourdough bread that is made to order. So have that with a beautiful IPA, and you’re good to go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our seafood pasta — the pasta is made daily. We do have some dry-aged steaks on the menu too, so it’s not all seafood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This view is unbelievable. On any given day when you’re sitting out here at Schooners patio, you’re gonna see sea otters, you’re gonna see sea lions, you’re gonna see the fog kind of rolling in. You’re also potentially gonna get wet by some of these crashing waves that can hit the sides of these rocks. You get a splash. And that’s kind of part of the experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s really beautiful, very tranquil. But also there’s a jovial kind of ambiance to our dining room. It’s a pretty fun time here at Schooners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Ashley, this might not be your typical hotel restaurant, right? How did you discover this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s definitely not. So the first time we stayed there, we were celebrating my husband graduating fire academy, which is a big deal for firefighters. The next time we went there, he proposed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ohh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Ohh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And it was one of those places where even if you’re not celebrating an engagement, you know, or a birthday, it’s just such a beautiful place to go for a meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> When you walk into the doors of the restaurant, you’re actually walking out into that outdoor terrace area from where we entered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It feels like you’re on a boat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, it does!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> You’re suspended over the bay. The wind’s blowing, but then they have the heaters so you’re not cold. And I always come equipped with my binoculars because I love wildlife, so I’m out there looking for otters and they’re always right there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We ate inside right by the window. Absolutely gorgeous views of everything. I loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And the food is an event in itself, right? You can get big towers, and you can get all sorts of things, sardines and…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anybody have the Supreme Plaza Mary? This Bloody Mary, it’s like a meal in a glass in itself. It’s a big, beautiful goblet. And it comes with two thick slices of bacon and these perfectly poached shrimp. There’s blue-cheese-stuffed olives. There’s pepperoncinis. It’s just like so many things. And then it’s a perfect spiciness. To be out there with the wind in your hair. Or inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So that’s your appetizer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> That’s your appetizer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> We started out with the burrata. Burrata was visually beautiful. First bite I was a little disappointed that it wasn’t more flavorful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Gooey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> But beautifully prepared dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Over arugula and sliced tomatoes and watermelon around the outside, with this delicious, delicious sourdough with balsamic glaze. It just — it was so delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then we got the most amazing salad, the Pacific seafood salad. And it had poached prawns that were fabulous, but a ton of fresh crab, very generous. And sliced ahi that was seared perfectly. The sesame dressing. It was so good. I will go back for that salad any time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Well, the one dish that I will definitely go back for were the brined anchovies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Ohh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The anchovy dish…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They’re known for that dish. Yeah, absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The brined anchovies were just amazing. Perfectly brined. Really nice salt. And it also had olive tapenade. The dish was amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anybody have the clam chowder?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It’s delicious. Perfect creaminess. The potatoes were just the right size.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Right? It’s really creamy and rich, but it’s not so thick. It’s still light. The clams themselves, just like butter, melt in your mouth —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Like “buttah”!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It’s like buttah. So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Let me tell you about the tuna poke. The tuna poke was really marvelous also. The way it was prepared with the sticky rice, avocado. There was one thing that I felt that it could have done without, and that was the mango. For me, the mango took a little bit away from the tuna, but the tuna poke itself was a really beautiful dish. Oh, gosh, I’d go back for all of them. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You’re shaking your head, Ashley. You’ve had that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes, I’ve had that before. They do a great job with all of their “raw bar,” they call it — their oysters, you can get a seafood tower, their ceviche. Mm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We also got the crab BLT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It had so much crab. And it was served on this thick, soft, beautiful brioche, which I will say didn’t hold up that well because they had so much crab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Just so much crab. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> But it didn’t matter. 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I mean, and if you like the Thai flavors of coconut and lime, they’re so fresh. They’re just really plump, beautiful, big mussels, but so tender. And it comes with, again, that really nice sourdough crostini and can sop up everything and then use your spoon when the bread runs out ’cause it’s such a good sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The dish that I was really impressed with was the cioppino. It comes out in a pot. I’ve got to tell you, the amount of seafood in this cioppino was really impressive. Shrimp. Clams. Mussels. Seasonal fish. It’s a saffron-based sauce that’s just really so beautifully seasoned. And the waiter was really generous enough to see that I was done with the bread that came with the actual dish, so he brought additional bread for me because —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s because it’s “sop-up-able.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, yes, that is —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Sop-up-able.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That’s the technical term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What about desserts? Any room, anyone?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Well, we didn’t, but my granddaughter, she got the ice cream sundae. And of course we took bites and —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> “My granddaughter got it, not me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Not me. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …seasonal Thai cuisine in Santa Cruz…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s like fall and spring together in one plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and seaside slurps and sips in Monterey…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> A ton of fresh crab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …on a special Monterey Bay area edition of \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like “buttah”!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Delicious. Yeah. It’s like “buttah.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to a very special edition of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em> Today we’re venturing down the coast to explore the scenic Monterey Bay area. We have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are supervising naturalist Ashley Houts, retired school teacher Vicki Traylor, and real estate broker Robert Fernandez. Welcome, everyone. Are you ready for a good show?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, we are. We are great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> We’re so excited!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Robert gets us started with his favorite lunchtime hangout. From melt-in-your-mouth brisket to house-smoked cold cuts, all sustainably sourced from local ranches, it’s a true meat lover’s paradise. Located in Seaside, it’s The Meatery Butchery and Eatery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> Okay, so calamari po’boy. Meatball? One burger, one fry, please. Goomba now. Mac-n-cheese right now too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> We are The Meatery in Seaside, California. Shaking and baking, bro. We are a destination deli…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #1:\u003c/strong> Oregon Hill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> All the way from Oregon Hill to come here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #2:\u003c/strong> San Martin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #1:\u003c/strong> Yes, sir. That’s right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> …offering not just good sandwiches, but great sandwiches.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Customer:\u003c/strong> Mmm! The best.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> I took 30 years of being a chef and sandwiched it between two pieces of bread. I mean, our sandwiches are just unbelievable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> People walk in and they’re kind of like overwhelmed by all the things we have going on in here. We always kind of reassure them — “Take your time. There’s a lot to take in.” French inspiration in my culinary background. You can see it through the entire menu in all the offerings. We craft all of our own sausages in-house, probably 27 flavors on a given week. We offer about five different pâtés on a regular basis. We do amazing hand-cut steaks and roasts. We do all of our own dry aging in-house. We actually use a gravity technique where we hang all of our steaks. For our pastrami Reuben, we take American Wagyu brisket, and we cure that for 12 days before we pepper it and smoke it. Our signature item is actually our smoked brisket. We smoke it for 18 hours, so it just literally jiggles as we slice it. Just a spectacular piece of meat. Teaching is one of my core values. It has been ever since I’ve been in the business. As the consumer comes in and if I’m trying to talk to them about a new cut that they may not have experienced, being able to walk them through how to prepare it. Now when they come back in and they’re like, “My family loved this steak I made!” it’s a pretty cool experience at the end of the day. That’s a steak. My mantra is “Be great every day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #3:\u003c/strong> Just checking out the dogs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> We’re definitely a family-owned and operated business, and by “operated” I mean literally almost every person in here is family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Any wedge fries or mac-n-cheese for you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> We all long for that personal connection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #4:\u003c/strong> Thank you, Chef.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> Cheers, guys. It’s why I became a chef — that experience of seeing somebody so satisfied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #4:\u003c/strong> Mm! That was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> Salud!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Robert, besides being fun to say — The Meatery Butchery and Eatery…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …it’s a really special place, isn’t it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It is. Their array in the meat case is just spectacular. But also what they offer as far as lunch items and specials is really fantastic. Top of the list for me would definitely be the brisket. It’s just the right combination of char from the smoke, and it literally just falls apart. Super savory. It’s delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I heard Ashley over there going, “Ohh…”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mm, it just sounds so good! Because I didn’t have that one. I had the Reuben, which was…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I love a Reuben. If I see it on a menu and we’re getting sandwiches, that’s what I’m gonna get. But it’s different here at The Meatery because it’s not your traditional sauerkraut. It’s a Brussels sprout kraut…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> …which is also fun to say. Brussels sprout kraut. But it was delicious. Like, I could have just a side of that alone. But the meat was, like you said, with the brisket just like falling apart, melt in your mouth, so juicy. One of those sandwiches while you’re eating it, it’s dripping down your arms and you don’t care because it’s just so tasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Wah. Well, I was disappointed because we were there at about 12:40 and they were out of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Oh, no!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Ah. Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Out of the brisket and the Reuben?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> No, they were out of the Reuben.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> But then I did ask to get a sample of the brisket. It was, as you said, it was just like melt in your mouth, like you could just cut it with your fork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> So we just had a sample of that. My husband got the Goomba, which is it’s basically an Italian sub. And it was really delicious. The bread was very soft and perfect with sesame seeds on the top. We also had delicious potato salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"371\" data-end=\"388\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"393\" data-end=\"396\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"396\" data-end=\"414\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I loved it.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"426\" data-end=\"429\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"429\" data-end=\"450\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> They also do a Caesar salad. It’s one of the Caesar salads to which others aspire to be.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"539\" data-end=\"542\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"542\" data-end=\"559\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Wow, ooh, I’ll have to try.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"587\" data-end=\"590\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"590\" data-end=\"611\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Perfectly seasoned dressing. And it also features potato wedges, which you wouldn’t necessarily see in a Caesar salad, but it works so well. Crunchy on the outside. Really nice and soft on the inside. So flavorful. And it’s just — it’s a beautifully prepared salad. And don’t miss the pâté. It’s a French country-style pâté accompanied with a lovely mustard, cornichons, fried capers, and a beautiful baguette. It’s just spectacular. He has an amazing curated list of wines that he offers. That particular day I had the CdP. I will spare myself with trying to pronounce it correctly.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1195\" data-end=\"1198\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1198\" data-end=\"1217\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The Châteauneuf-du-Pape.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1242\" data-end=\"1245\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1245\" data-end=\"1266\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That one. [Laughs] And it was amazing because it paired so well with everything that we had ordered that day on the menu.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1388\" data-end=\"1391\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1391\" data-end=\"1409\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I had the bánh mì sandwich. So it did have pâté, and it was delicious. Not too fatty, and succulent. And the jalapeños and the pickled vegetables, and the bánh mì bread was beautiful.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1593\" data-end=\"1596\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1596\" data-end=\"1615\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Have you had the bánh mì before?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1648\" data-end=\"1651\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1651\" data-end=\"1672\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I have had the bánh mì, and it is also a very, very good sandwich. It’s really hard to pick because there’s so many great options there. Also the po’boy. A calamari steak po’boy, which was just great.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1873\" data-end=\"1876\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1893\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Oooh.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1899\" data-end=\"1902\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1902\" data-end=\"1923\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Really nice crunch to the calamari that’s really perfectly breaded. Juicy, soft. It has this relish on it that pairs so nicely with the calamari. Super-soft bread. It’s amazing. The other item that I don’t know if you had a chance to try is the beef rib. It’s a monster of a beef rib. The char that it has on it. And just…\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2248\" data-end=\"2251\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2251\" data-end=\"2269\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Like the brisket.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2287\" data-end=\"2290\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2290\" data-end=\"2311\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, and just how juicy it is and flavorful and melts in your mouth. It’s an amazing rib.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2401\" data-end=\"2404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2423\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is it for one person? Or five? [Laughter]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2465\" data-end=\"2468\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2468\" data-end=\"2489\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I would say one of their ribs would be more than enough for two people to share.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2570\" data-end=\"2573\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2592\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2598\" data-end=\"2601\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2601\" data-end=\"2618\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I know it’s called The Meatery, but what was really delicious that I would go back there for was their mac-n-cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2735\" data-end=\"2738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2738\" data-end=\"2757\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2761\" data-end=\"2764\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2764\" data-end=\"2781\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did you try that?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2799\" data-end=\"2802\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2802\" data-end=\"2823\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, mac-n-cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2842\" data-end=\"2845\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2845\" data-end=\"2862\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh, so it’s a blend of cheeses that’s just exquisite. We ordered one to share at the table and we’re all, like, just starting. Oh, it was gone in a flash.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3026\" data-end=\"3029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3029\" data-end=\"3050\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] But the thing about their mac-n-cheese that’s different is it has a bit of, like, pimento flavor.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3157\" data-end=\"3160\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3160\" data-end=\"3181\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3186\" data-end=\"3189\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3189\" data-end=\"3206\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> My family, we love pimento cheese dip. It’s, like, the fact that that was, like, in their mac-n-cheese was so good. And they sell a container of it that you can take and bake at home, and I had it again that night because we got that container.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3451\" data-end=\"3454\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3454\" data-end=\"3473\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You got that container.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3497\" data-end=\"3500\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3500\" data-end=\"3517\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It was so good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3533\" data-end=\"3536\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3536\" data-end=\"3554\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> They had a lot of beautiful things to take home, and I took home quite a few. [Laughter] They had these marinated mushrooms.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3679\" data-end=\"3682\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3682\" data-end=\"3699\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mmm.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3704\" data-end=\"3707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3707\" data-end=\"3725\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> All these, like, garlic butters and just all these things that would make a meal at home wonderful.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3825\" data-end=\"3828\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3828\" data-end=\"3849\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3856\" data-end=\"3859\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3859\" data-end=\"3878\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Meatery, butchery, eatery, shoppery.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3915\" data-end=\"3918\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3918\" data-end=\"3936\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3950\" data-end=\"3953\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3953\" data-end=\"3970\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3979\" data-end=\"3982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3982\" data-end=\"4003\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> One-stop shop.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4021\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4021\" data-end=\"4040\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] Alright. If you would like to try The Meatery Butchery & Eatery, it’s located on Fremont Boulevard in Seaside. And the average tab per person without drinks is around $30. Vicki’s restaurant is the quintessential definition of a hidden gem. Tucked inside a rare and used book shop, it’s a cozy little spot for curries, roti, and other traditional Thai delights. Located in downtown Santa Cruz, it’s Hanloh Thai Food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Lalita Kaewsawang:\u003c/strong> Hanloh Thai Food — well, we cook really good Thai food, and a lot of them come from my childhood. So this is nam prik lon, the crabmeat coconut relish. I always try to tell a story. Every dish that’s on the menu has a part of me in it somewhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Hanloh started in 2018. We were doing pop-ups and catering everywhere. And in 2021, I got a call from Bad Animal, which is a bookstore and a wine bar in Santa Cruz, to be a chef residency. It’s pretty casual, very Santa Cruz. Never in my life I thought I would be opening a restaurant in a bookstore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I started cooking because that’s how I stay connected to home. My mother is a street food vendor in Bangkok, and she’s really inspired me to cook. The street vendors have very focused menus and I love their movements. I love how meticulous their ingredients are. I’m very inspired by that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I established my career in Santa Cruz, I started to realize, to make this unique, you have to use local ingredients.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the dishes on our menu is roti martabak, which has a lot of Indian influence and Muslim influence. My mother is Muslim Thai. So this is a dish that is a homage to my mom and to her heritage. So I chose to make it all vegan. It’s like a blend of Thai culture and Santa Cruz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The nice part about us being in a bookstore is sometimes when people have to wait, they can get a glass of wine and browse the book, and it doesn’t feel like they’re actually waiting that much longer. They wait for a while, but it doesn’t feel like it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our food is made for sharing, so order family style, a couple glasses of wine. It’s pretty chill. [Laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, Vicki, so, hidden inside a used bookstore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It’s called Bad Animal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And the Bad Animal is an American badger, which is one of my favorite animals! I sat —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You can tell us about that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah! They’re ferocious, but so cool. But I sat right underneath a taxidermied badger. Just like all the stuff on the wall — not just the bookstore — the bookstore was wonderful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It’s just — it’s such a great feeling when you’re in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Very Santa Cruz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Very Santa Cruz. That’s a great point.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I just kept saying, “This place is so hip.” You’re hanging out, you’re talking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They’re not turning tables.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> They’re not. That’s not what they’re for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Vicki, so many dishes to try. But do you have a favorite?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I do. My favorite is an appetizer. I think it’s called nam prik lon. And it is a beautiful crab custard with a lot of fresh crab. It has makrut leaves. The preparation of all the vegetables is like a feast for the eyes. And then the shrimp crackers that you dip in. And it’s absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> So we sat down and we saw this dish keep going out to all of these different tables, and we asked our server, “What is that?” And she said, “Oh, it’s my favorite salad. You have to get it.” It was the yum galumpii. It was with tofu. Just perfectly cooked. Crispy on the outside, warm and soft, like almost gooey tofu on the inside. It had all of the cabbage and cilantro and lime, was really, really fresh flavors. But then there was a crunch with the peanuts in there. We just devoured it, and I could have just had like three of those salads for my dinner. I crave it, and I want to go back for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you start with anything?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I did. I had the scallop salad, and that salad — I would go back just for that salad. It was so good. The scallops with a dried shrimp also. They just — they were paired beautifully together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Have you had this salad before?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We did, we did. It just — the scallops are melt-in-your-mouth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And then, yeah, it comes with lettuce so you can wrap it. It was just dressed perfectly, because you could taste the makrut lime, you could taste the fish sauce. But nothing was overpowering. Just fresh and delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So a good way to start, with a salad, one of the salads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Good way to start is with the salad. The fried chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Oh, gosh. The fried chicken is just perfectly prepared.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All three of you are going…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes. The fried chicken, super crispy on the outside, super juicy on the inside, paired with a sauce that was just really a nice complement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It was perfectly fried.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And the presentation is so beautiful. They’ve made the cucumber look so pretty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> It’s so good. It’s — always. Melt in your mouth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I love the cod.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> You talked about “melt in your mouth” with the other dish, but the cod…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s fabulous. And it’s local and it’s sustainable, but it just flakes apart. And it was like we just kept saying, like, “Is this butter? Are we eating butter?” ’cause it was just so flavorful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And it’s steamed in a broth, a spicy kind of…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> …lemongrass broth with a little chili. I mean, it so perfect…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Lime and coconut in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> …to put the jasmine rice in to soak it all up. So it was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And then the wine, they have all these natural wines. We got this really nice German white wine that paired perfectly with everything we got.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We haven’t talked about the roti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s delicious. We had the roti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> You did?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes, we did. And it’s stuffed with yams and caramelized onions. And I was like, “Oh, my gosh, it feels like I’m eating fall.” But it’s paired with a really light cucumber salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I was like, oh, my goodness. The combination, it’s like fall and spring together in one plate. It was so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> What did you get for dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> A coconut-pandan custard. And the waiter that brought it out, he, like, leaned over to us and said, “You’re gonna love this. I can’t get enough of it.” And so the custard itself was really thick, but also light, because it’s coconut, but it was green. And I was like, “Wait, why is it green?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Pandan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Well, pandan is — yeah. It’s like a tropical plant…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> …that’s mixed in with the coconut. And it was served with this brioche bread. The brioche was so buttery and you dip it in there, and, ohh, it was so good. But we also got the coconut ice cream with that beautiful cookie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> With the little cookie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> With the cookie. Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> So delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s so pretty too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Didn’t last. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Ours didn’t either.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I feel like the dishes were like her work of art, the chef’s work of art.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The quality and the preparation of everything that we received that day that we ordered was really great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Every person I know that has gone there has really loved it, so I’m happy that you liked it too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Well, you can count one more on that list. 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Our location is right on Cannery Row. Very historic. You can see one of the last canneries adjacent to our restaurant. I’m originally from Boston, Massachusetts. I gravitate towards water, so being here on the Pacific really makes me feel at home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our menu is based on the seasons. All our seafood is sustainable. We really listen to our fishermen. Whatever type of seafood is at the highest quality is what kind of is gonna get my attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> I’m really super proud that we put on some local Monterey anchovies. We cure it, pickle it, and it goes on this amazing toasted focaccia bread. Just a couple one-biters, but it really is a great way to start your meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> Tell me when.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> That’s when. When.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> A lot of people ask me what is the secret to our clam chowder. Well, it is a secret, but we do use sherry wine that has this beautiful kind of undertone. It’s creamy. It’s delicious. It’s super yummy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We hollow out this sourdough bread that is made to order. So have that with a beautiful IPA, and you’re good to go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our seafood pasta — the pasta is made daily. We do have some dry-aged steaks on the menu too, so it’s not all seafood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This view is unbelievable. On any given day when you’re sitting out here at Schooners patio, you’re gonna see sea otters, you’re gonna see sea lions, you’re gonna see the fog kind of rolling in. You’re also potentially gonna get wet by some of these crashing waves that can hit the sides of these rocks. You get a splash. And that’s kind of part of the experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s really beautiful, very tranquil. But also there’s a jovial kind of ambiance to our dining room. It’s a pretty fun time here at Schooners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Ashley, this might not be your typical hotel restaurant, right? How did you discover this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s definitely not. So the first time we stayed there, we were celebrating my husband graduating fire academy, which is a big deal for firefighters. 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And I always come equipped with my binoculars because I love wildlife, so I’m out there looking for otters and they’re always right there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We ate inside right by the window. Absolutely gorgeous views of everything. I loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And the food is an event in itself, right? You can get big towers, and you can get all sorts of things, sardines and…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anybody have the Supreme Plaza Mary? This Bloody Mary, it’s like a meal in a glass in itself. It’s a big, beautiful goblet. And it comes with two thick slices of bacon and these perfectly poached shrimp. There’s blue-cheese-stuffed olives. There’s pepperoncinis. It’s just like so many things. And then it’s a perfect spiciness. To be out there with the wind in your hair. Or inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So that’s your appetizer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> That’s your appetizer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> We started out with the burrata. Burrata was visually beautiful. First bite I was a little disappointed that it wasn’t more flavorful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Gooey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> But beautifully prepared dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Over arugula and sliced tomatoes and watermelon around the outside, with this delicious, delicious sourdough with balsamic glaze. It just — it was so delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then we got the most amazing salad, the Pacific seafood salad. And it had poached prawns that were fabulous, but a ton of fresh crab, very generous. And sliced ahi that was seared perfectly. The sesame dressing. It was so good. I will go back for that salad any time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Well, the one dish that I will definitely go back for were the brined anchovies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Ohh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The anchovy dish…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They’re known for that dish. Yeah, absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The brined anchovies were just amazing. Perfectly brined. Really nice salt. And it also had olive tapenade. The dish was amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anybody have the clam chowder?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It’s delicious. Perfect creaminess. The potatoes were just the right size.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Right? It’s really creamy and rich, but it’s not so thick. It’s still light. The clams themselves, just like butter, melt in your mouth —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Like “buttah”!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It’s like buttah. So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Let me tell you about the tuna poke. The tuna poke was really marvelous also. The way it was prepared with the sticky rice, avocado. There was one thing that I felt that it could have done without, and that was the mango. For me, the mango took a little bit away from the tuna, but the tuna poke itself was a really beautiful dish. Oh, gosh, I’d go back for all of them. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You’re shaking your head, Ashley. You’ve had that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes, I’ve had that before. They do a great job with all of their “raw bar,” they call it — their oysters, you can get a seafood tower, their ceviche. Mm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We also got the crab BLT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It had so much crab. And it was served on this thick, soft, beautiful brioche, which I will say didn’t hold up that well because they had so much crab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Just so much crab. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> But it didn’t matter. I ate it with a knife and fork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Not a real complaint.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That’s a terrible problem to have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And it had the bacon. And somebody was like, “I would think the bacon would take away from the crab.” No. It was so delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anyone have the mussels?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> No, did not have the mussels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But I can see that look in your eye like…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Like that they were good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> So good. I mean, and if you like the Thai flavors of coconut and lime, they’re so fresh. They’re just really plump, beautiful, big mussels, but so tender. And it comes with, again, that really nice sourdough crostini and can sop up everything and then use your spoon when the bread runs out ’cause it’s such a good sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The dish that I was really impressed with was the cioppino. It comes out in a pot. I’ve got to tell you, the amount of seafood in this cioppino was really impressive. Shrimp. Clams. Mussels. Seasonal fish. It’s a saffron-based sauce that’s just really so beautifully seasoned. And the waiter was really generous enough to see that I was done with the bread that came with the actual dish, so he brought additional bread for me because —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s because it’s “sop-up-able.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, yes, that is —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Sop-up-able.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That’s the technical term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What about desserts? Any room, anyone?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Well, we didn’t, but my granddaughter, she got the ice cream sundae. And of course we took bites and —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> “My granddaughter got it, not me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Not me. Of course not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> But I had a couple bites, and just everything, they presented it so well and they did a really good job of making you feel special. It was really a nice experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> They just go the extra mile there to make you feel so special.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> They did. They absolutely did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you will be back?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> As will I.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. If you would like to try Schooners Monterey, it’s located on Cannery Row in the Monterey Plaza Hotel. 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Plus, Cecilia Tries It heads to Castroville for a tasting tour along the Monterey County Artichoke Trail.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Don’t miss the premiere of four new episodes, \u003c/span>\u003cb>Thursdays at 7:30 PM on KQED 9, starting on July 10.\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hungry for a preview? 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Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23379\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1020x1360.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-160x213.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-768x1024.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1152x1536.png 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1536x2048.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1920x2560.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cuvaison.com/wines/release/2023-estate-sauvignon-blanc-2023\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cb>Cuvaison 2022 Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/b>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Napa Valley, Los Carneros, California $28\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nAs one of Napa Valley’s classic family producers, Cuvaison was founded in 1969 and has become not only a wine country destination but also a creator of benchmark wines. 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This is one of the first examples I heartily recommend. Light lemon-lime aromas are followed by a bright mouthful of flavor. Enjoy with chips and salsa on a sunny day.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"386\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"340\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Bold Laotian and Thai flavors in Alameda…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"439\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"402\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Hands on. I like to touch my food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"485\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"459\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"553\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"506\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a quirky Italian spot in San Francisco…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"623\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"572\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"644\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and a hip wine and whiskey lounge in Oakland…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"756\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"715\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Trust me, that dish did not last long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"777\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"847\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"841\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"879\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"868\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"881\" data-end=\"898\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"1426\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>, the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are retired lawyer and podcaster \u003cstrong data-start=\"1286\" data-end=\"1301\">Richard Hsu\u003c/strong>, podcaster and editor \u003cstrong data-start=\"1324\" data-end=\"1337\">Jeff Hunt\u003c/strong>, and senior analyst \u003cstrong data-start=\"1358\" data-end=\"1374\">Tonya Thomas\u003c/strong>. Well, welcome, everyone. Are you ready to party?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1443\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1436\">All:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1699\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1464\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Richard’s up first with his favorite date-night spot. It’s a casual little eatery founded by two sisters, bringing their own modern twist to traditional Thai and Laotian dishes. Nestled in the heart of Alameda, it’s Bhan Mae Vane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1732\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1715\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> Welcome, guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1841\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1748\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane is a Lao and Thai restaurant in the heart of Alameda, family-run business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1986\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1857\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> When we created this business, we created it in honor of our mom. My family came from Vientiane, which is the capital of Laos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2327\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2002\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Growing up, my mom ran a family restaurant. But back in those days, it was Thai food. It wasn’t Laotian food. My mom was afraid to really bring that out because nobody knew anything about Laos. Lao food, some ingredients are pungent, like anchovy sauce and shrimp paste sauce, so it adds a little bit more depth of flavor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"3041\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2343\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Nam Khao is our crispy rice ball salad that is a traditional Laotian dish, but it’s my mom’s twist to things—like add a little bit of this to give it more flavor here—because people don’t do that. So we’ve learned those little tips and tricks from her. My favorite item on the menu is the sakoo. Sakoo is savory tapioca balls. It’s ground pork with fresh shallots, onions, garlic, peanuts, wrapped with tapioca dough. Back in the day before we opened our restaurant, you’d get lucky if you’d get it from a little old lady selling it at the temple. It’s just a dish that you just can’t find anywhere. You wrap it all up in a bite-size and just pop it in, and it’s like, the best thing ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3146\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3057\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> People are actually coming in and ordering the Thai food and exploring the Lao food…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3170\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3162\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3211\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3186\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> …and also loving it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3578\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3227\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> If my mom was here and she could see what we’ve done with this restaurant in honor of her, I think she would be proud. My mom did get a chance to try my food, and one of the last things that she asked for before she passed away was, um… [voice breaking] my Pad Thai. She loved my food. And if she were to be looking down, she’d be very proud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3607\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3588\">All:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3609\" data-end=\"3621\">[cheering]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3742\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3642\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, Richard, you live in San Francisco, but you make that trek to Alameda. Is it worth it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"4016\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"3760\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s totally worth it for Bhan Mae Vane. My girlfriend grew up in Alameda. She discovered this restaurant. It’s very family-friendly. You can have large groups of people there. It’s bright and airy, it’s modern. It’s really a fun place to have dinner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4067\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4037\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what do you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4085\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So we always start with the sakoo, which is this amazing dish that’s served in a bamboo platter. And actually, eating it is kind of like a project. You take the tapioca ball, you put the mint leaf on top, you wrap it in lettuce, and then you eat it like a little burrito, maybe. And then you just get this wonderful sensation of chewiness and crispiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4465\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s one of those dishes we call “you can play with your food,” right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4567\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4588\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have that dish?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4765\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4630\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I did. Hands on. I like to touch my food. And there’s no manual, so you’re just kind of making it up as you go. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"5177\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"4784\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I ended up getting the pineapple khao pad. It was a beautiful dish. It had raisins. It had pineapple. Oh, and I can’t forget the cashews. That was just delicious and made everything come together very, very well. Then we ordered the garlic noodles. The noodles were buttery, which was absolutely delicious. It wasn’t overly garlicky. Very creamy. They came out hot. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5221\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5195\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s good to hear that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5277\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5242\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. What about you, Jeff?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5524\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5293\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fried tofu. Yum! With the Thai-style peanut sauce. I will never kick fried anything—especially tofu—out of bed. And it was delicious. I don’t know if it had to do with the way they cut it in triangles, but the fry was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5545\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Because triangles maybe give more fry sides?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> On the outsides. And the inside stayed soft and delicious and creamy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5753\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5698\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did you notice how generous the portions were there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5769\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yes, I did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5904\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5801\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> That’s one thing—you really get good bang for your buck at this restaurant. There’s often leftovers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5932\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5920\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5965\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5951\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"6620\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"5983\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> The main dish that we like that’s really excellent is their papaya salad, which is hand-shredded papaya. They make two styles. There’s a Thai style and a Laotian style. Now, the Thai style a lot of people have had—that’s just with standard fish sauce. But the Laotian style has a shrimp paste, so it makes it a little bit more seafoody. And Laotian food can be extremely spicy, so you have to specify which level of spiciness you want. It’s served with crunchy pork rinds, some soft noodles, as well as some cabbage, so it’s just an interesting experience. I’ve never been to Thailand or Laos, but it just makes me want to go there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6641\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, they’re right next to each other, right? So the cuisines are very, very similar. But as you said, just those minor differences make quite a difference in what you’re getting on the plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6866\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6855\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6901\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6887\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"89\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I actually visited Laos, and one of the things I loved the most was the food. And larb, in Thai, is one of my favorite Thai dishes. At this place, I believe it’s the same thing, called laab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"334\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"299\">Server:\u003c/strong> I have Laab Seen for you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"350\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And I was asked about the spice, and I said medium. I’m adventurous. And it was a little more than what I would call medium. I’ll just put it that way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"550\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"522\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was probably a killer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"566\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> [laughs] Yeah, right, right. But it was delicious all the same. It’s minced chicken meat and then herbs and peppers, and it’s so flavorful and just a really good dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"792\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"759\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any other dishes that you had?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"1126\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"811\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I did. I tried the red curry, and the protein that we used was the chicken. It came in this beautiful dish. It had lots of vegetables—bell peppers, radish. It had a whole lot of different vegetables in there that just merged very nicely together. The only thing, I just wish they had a little bit more chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1158\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1144\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1257\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1177\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> And the sauce was a little spicy, but the dish itself was delicious, so yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1278\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1393\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1302\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I don’t want to leave this restaurant discussion without talking about the pork belly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1417\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1411\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1487\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1438\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us. Tell us. ‘Cause I’m a pork belly fan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1503\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Good morning, good afternoon, and good night. I mean, I also won’t kick any pork belly out of bed, but what I really loved is that the crispiness was crisp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1688\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1680\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1812\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1704\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And the belly was soft. So you had that texture experience in your mouth, and the flavors—oh my goodness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1830\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1882\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1853\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s just so, so, so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"2001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"1900\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So one of the drinks that I don’t know if you guys got to try is called the Thai iced green tea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2032\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2017\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow. No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2297\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2050\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Which is not like a regular Thai iced tea. This is actually a green-colored drink with maybe a little bit of matcha in it. And it was layered so that the milk was on top and the green part was on the bottom, but it was very floral and fragrant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2349\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2318\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get any dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2367\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They only have two desserts there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2416\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2478\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2441\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> One is a sticky rice mango dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2505\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2494\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2971\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2523\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> And one is an egg custard purple rice dish. And they’re both served with this coconut creamy sauce, which makes it kind of a little savory and kind of a little bit sweet, and in both cases, you have the contrast of the rice, which is warm, and then you’ve got the cold mango, and then you have the warm purple rice with kind of a cold egg custard. So it just makes a beautiful kind of a soft dessert. But it really kind of rounds out the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"3033\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"2992\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Definitely cleanses your palate after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3051\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It cleanses your palate. It’s just kind of perfect, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3175\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3127\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s like a goodbye kiss from the restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3232\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3193\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that’s exactly what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3293\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3253\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love that. Would you stop by again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3631\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3312\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, absolutely. The service was good. We got there about lunchtime, and it wasn’t that many folks. We got seated pretty quickly. But I kid you not, within about 15 minutes, it started getting very full, to the point where they needed a wait list. So it just kind of attests to it being a very popular place to go to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3652\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it sounded like you’ll go back just for those desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3825\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3730\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Especially after this conversation, I’m going back, yeah. I’ll find a way to get to Alameda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3892\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3846\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You need that little kiss of dessert there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3919\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3908\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"4099\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"3940\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. If you would like to try Bhan Mae Vane, it’s located on Webster Street in Alameda, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a podcaster, Jeff has a passion for telling stories of the unique people and places you can only find in the city by the Bay. Case in point—the eclectic spot that’s become his go-to for Italian comfort food. Located in San Francisco’s Mission District, it’s Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"503\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"377\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The vibe of Emmy’s is super laid back, a little quirky. And I think it’s really, really hard to not have fun in this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"521\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"519\">[Cheering]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"539\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> I founded the restaurant in 2001. I was a server at the time in some pretty fancy places. We wanted somewhere to eat after work at 10:00, 11:00. We wanted music, we wanted good food, and a place where we could all feel like we belonged and we didn’t have to dress up and get fancy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"1096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"843\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> We don’t shy away from the portions here at Emmy’s. Italian-American comfort food, top to bottom. It’s big spaghetti and meatballs. It’s a big lasagna. You can share it with your friends. You can eat it yourself. No judgment, whatever you want to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1422\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1114\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> The thing I’m most proud of on the menu is the Cadillac Lasagna—vodka sauce, ricotta, sunflower seed pesto. We do a pork and beef ragu. You don’t get a lot of al dente lasagna. It’s not easy to do it. You should never be baking your lasagna. You’re baking your lasagna, you’re going the wrong direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1442\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The clientele at Emmy’s is all over the place, and I love that. It’s young, old. The servers—they’re always really nice people. They’re gonna be smiling. We’ll tell jokes. We’ll do shots if that’s your thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1704\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1665\">Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers, prost, yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1724\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> It’s really a community place. And that’s the thing that Emmy did, and I’m gonna keep going with. It’s one of my favorite things about this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1985\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1894\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You know, to use the word unique about Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, why do you think that is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2127\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2001\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I think of the place as part art gallery, part little kids’ playground, and part delicious, warm, comforting, hugging food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2157\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2148\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2181\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2173\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2216\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2202\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> In a shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2341\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2232\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> In a shack, yeah. I mean, yeah, and also the alliteration. Spaghetti Shack—who doesn’t want to go there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2425\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2362\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right. Okay, you walk in the door. What do you order?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2805\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2441\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> The first thing I usually order is their Caesar salad, which I think of as kind of a deconstructed Caesar. They’ve got the long strips of romaine covered with toasted Parmesan, and I don’t know what they do to their croutons, but they stay crunchy through the dressing, which is an anchovy dressing. And, hello, hello, hello, hello. Get in my mouth, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2862\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2826\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It checks all those boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2898\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2878\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> All of the boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2973\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what about you, Tonya? What did you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"3267\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"2992\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So I started with the butter lettuce salad. I’m a little disappointed now that I didn’t get the Caesar salad. The butter lettuce salad was basic. It had some radishes on it, and it had a citrusy dressing. It was good, but I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3326\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3283\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> You gotta be a little naughty at Emmy’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3365\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3345\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Exactly, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3386\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. What did you start with, Richard?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3446\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, I started with their spaghetti and meatballs. That’s what—they’re famous for it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3574\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3556\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Skip the salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3942\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3592\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. The spaghetti and meatballs. And I have to say, like, you know, I’m not a really big spaghetti person, but this spaghetti was just—it tasted like homemade. The meatballs were gigantic. This made me remember, like, how my mom might have made it. Or maybe my grandma made it. And I think that’s why people really love this restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"4022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"3963\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Jeff, did you get the spaghetti and meatballs this time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4150\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4038\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Because the spaghetti and meatballs is one of my best friends in the city, I chose not to get that this time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4243\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4171\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But do you agree, when you have gotten it, with Richard’s assessment?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4523\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4259\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s one of my good friends. I like to hang out with him. Him and her. No, because in general, I love lasagna. It’s one of my best comfort foods. And I had never had their lasagna. But it’s a different sauce than the spaghetti. It’s a light red vodka sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4565\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4541\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yes, I remember that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4780\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4581\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Also delicious. And then they do a little dollop of pesto and a little dollop of ricotta. So it’s got that Margherita, tricolore kind of Italian thing going on, and it was out of this world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"5029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"4799\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I had the lasagna as well, and I wholeheartedly agree. It was delicious. What I also enjoyed, too, was that the noodle itself was al dente, because sometimes people make it a little mushy. It was perfect, and you get a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5118\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5047\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did either of you get the garlic bread on the side, by any chance?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5208\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5134\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I didn’t on this last trip, but I know exactly that of which you speak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5560\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5226\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was so funny, because we ordered that kind of accidentally at the very end. And when that came out, we went with a group of friends, and they just wolfed that thing down. [laughs] I mean, this might be the best dish here. So I didn’t know. I just thought, “Maybe we should have a little garlic bread with spaghetti, you know?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5576\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> To sop it up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5643\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And it was—people just loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5691\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5664\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread for you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5907\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5710\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread. I had the focaccia bread that came with my dish. So that piece of bread came in handy. Was able to sop it up and finish it all. I literally—there was nothing left on my plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5923\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"419\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"65\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, we had the lasagna also, but the dish that we also had on top of that—we had a lot of people—was the peppercorn steak and the pesto spaghetti that goes on the side. And what’s amazing about the steak—it’s very tender and grilled and everything—is they put peppercorns in the steak, which I think tenderizes it. I’d never had that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"435\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s also a peppercorn au jus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"514\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"488\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, is that what it is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"530\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Got it, got it. And I wasn’t expecting that at a Spaghetti Shack, but it was really a nice dish. And we were really thrilled that we ordered that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"767\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"728\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have anything to sip on?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"979\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"785\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I had this really interesting drink called Lupe Under the Sun, and it was served with a little orange, and it had an umbrella in it, and it was a spicy mango tequila. Really hit the spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"1002\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"995\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1077\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1023\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You would definitely be on the beach under the sun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1117\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1095\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> For sure, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1153\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1138\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1637\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1171\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They have two off-the-menu desserts. There are actually no desserts on the menu, but we saw two desserts go by us as we were sitting there. So we, you know, pulled off the waiter and said, “Hey, what are those?” And then they told us it’s this decadent, decadent brownie with two scoops of ice cream, and they have a peanut butter bar with two scoops of ice cream. So when he said, “Look, these are the only two desserts,” we said, “We’ll take them both.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1661\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1653\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1721\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1682\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m gonna call you my dessert guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1804\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1739\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I know. I’m your dessert guy. We went all out on the desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1874\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1825\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm. And you did not have dessert, did you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1910\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1893\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No, I did not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1975\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1931\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. You did not see the desserts go by?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"2000\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"1994\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2018\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They’re off-menu, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2065\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Think of the calories you saved yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2130\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, lots. Although I think I made up with it with the wine because I absolutely had wine with my dinner. And I actually made it for happy hour, which was nice. I went on a Tuesday. So what I didn’t realize was that on Tuesdays, kids eat free. And I just kept seeing all these little kids coming. I’m like, “Oh, they’re cute.” I’m all, “Oh, there’s a lot of them.” And then I go, “Oh, it’s…” you know, they said, “Yes, it’s Kids Eat Free night.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2730\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2612\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a beautiful thing to have in that neighborhood, especially with the cost of food and taking your family out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2749\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2787\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2779\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2808\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you go back repeatedly, so you obviously feel the prices are fair?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"3053\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"2897\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I do, and I don’t always finish my meal. So sometimes it’s two meals, so even more bang for your buck. It’s a comforting food and a comforting place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3263\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3074\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, if you would like to try Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, it’s located on Mission Street in San Francisco, and the average dinner tab per person without drinks is around \u003cstrong data-start=\"3253\" data-end=\"3260\">$50\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3284\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tonya’s a girl after my own heart. Give her a glass of Pinot paired with some globally inspired small plates, and she’s all set for the perfect night out. She’s found her happy place in the heart of Old Oakland at District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3545\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3543\">[music playing]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3562\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> When you walk into District, it’s so fun, energetic, good food, good conversation. It’s a wonderful place to hang out and enjoy downtown Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3751\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3725\">Host:\u003c/strong> We need a spot for two?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3807\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3768\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> All right. Let’s see what we can do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"4136\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"3824\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Our original location in San Francisco was solely a wine bar. When we opened up the Oakland location, our concept expanded into a wine and whiskey bar. We do flights of whiskey as well as single portions, and we have a large amount of allocated whiskeys you really can’t find almost anywhere else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4172\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4148\">Guest:\u003c/strong> Cheers to District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4201\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4187\">Guest #2:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4218\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Here at District, we do love our strong flavors. Our executive chef, Bob Cina, has a globally inspired menu of small plates—flavors from Mediterranean, Asian, and Peruvian influences. And it’s also seasonally done to create a different experience every time you walk into District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4524\" data-end=\"4556\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4524\" data-end=\"4533\">Host:\u003c/strong> Welcome. Come on in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4558\" data-end=\"4779\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4558\" data-end=\"4573\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> My favorite thing on the menu—charcuterie and cheese. I think it’s a beautiful offering. It pairs so well with both whiskey and wine. It’s a delicious place to start your evening at District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4781\" data-end=\"5039\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4781\" data-end=\"4796\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Old Oakland, hence the name, is the oldest part of downtown Oakland. Beautiful architecture, tree-lined streets. It’s a wonderful community down here. We have so many regulars who support us. People enjoy coming here after work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5065\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5054\">Guest #3:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5091\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5080\">Guest #4:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5373\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5108\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> And then in the evening time, we turn into a more vibrant lounge with exciting music and just a lot of fun entertainment. Walk in on any Friday night, I know half the people at the bar, and they know each other. It’s really a wonderful place to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5388\">Guest #5:\u003c/strong> That’s the town biz, baby. Uh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"184\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Tonya, this place looks like a good spot to watch a game, right, or sit at the bar. What brings you there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"186\" data-end=\"515\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"186\" data-end=\"203\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So not only can you watch the game. There might be a birthday party going on, an anniversary. There’s a lot of different things that go on at District. People think, “Oh, it’s a bar.” But when you look at the menu, you’re like, “Okay, these aren’t typical things that you could see at a bar per se.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"517\" data-end=\"903\">I always start with the Arancini Romano. It has a nice breadcrumb crust on the outside, and inside, nice cheesy risotto and spinach. Really delicious. It also is plated very nicely. It has this little garnish that comes on top. And then there’s this delicious smoked tomato sauce. Oh, my goodness. You have to get that and put it on there. It’s absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"905\" data-end=\"980\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"905\" data-end=\"924\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, Jeff, what was your experience at District?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"982\" data-end=\"1025\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"982\" data-end=\"996\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Big fan of deviled eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1027\" data-end=\"1084\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1027\" data-end=\"1043\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, they have the deviled eggs, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1086\" data-end=\"1259\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1086\" data-end=\"1100\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fermented chili and pickled radish is what’s inside. And it just filled my mouth with experience, flavor, and happiness. Yeah, wonderful way to start.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1296\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1280\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Happy eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1320\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1312\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1322\" data-end=\"1680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1322\" data-end=\"1338\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We had the lamb meatballs with the garlic bread. I don’t know if you’ve tried that, but they were really delicious. You know, lamb can be gamey sometimes, but what they do is they put mint leaves into the lamb. So it really makes it a nice flavor. And then the garlic bread to go with it—it was just the perfect contrast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1682\" data-end=\"1718\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1682\" data-end=\"1699\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1747\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1739\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1749\" data-end=\"2044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1749\" data-end=\"1766\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Because I go there often, I got the dinner for two. The dinner for two is actually a great value. It comes with a starter, entrée, and it also comes with a salad. So it’s a perfect thing to get when you go there and you don’t want to spend a whole lot of money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2295\">The organic greens—oh, my goodness. It’s probably one of the best salads that I’ve had any place. They have the avocados, the spicy sunflower seeds, the citrus, the watermelon radish. It’s just a beautiful salad and absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2297\" data-end=\"2402\">And then recently, I ordered their pizza. I’m not sure if you guys got a chance to try their pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2431\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2420\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2666\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2450\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> It’s a very simple pizza. It’s on a thin crust. Very cheesy. I love the Margherita and the basil on there, so it’s really good. But you can definitely order all kinds of different varieties on there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2668\" data-end=\"2758\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2668\" data-end=\"2684\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We did have that pizza, and we actually added prosciutto to that…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2760\" data-end=\"2784\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2760\" data-end=\"2777\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2786\" data-end=\"2862\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2786\" data-end=\"2802\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> …which they said was one of the most common things…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2910\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2881\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Good choice. Yes, it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2912\" data-end=\"3030\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2912\" data-end=\"2928\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Our waiter said, “This is one of the most popular dishes.” So, yes, that was really terrific.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3032\" data-end=\"3056\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3032\" data-end=\"3049\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3058\" data-end=\"3544\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3058\" data-end=\"3072\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I’m also a big fan of a Spanish dish called gambas al ajillo. And it’s prawns and garlic—that’s kind of the base of it. The way that District did it was very special. It’s served on a lemon risotto, so full of flavor and so bright and beautiful yellow, which contrasts with the redness of the prawns. They were grilled perfectly, and there were fried capers that were kind of dotted all around it. I didn’t know that existed, and now I do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3609\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3565\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They add a nice little pop of herbal…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3750\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3625\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> A pop, and that beautiful—yes. So good. My companion that day is vegan, so the Brussels sprouts that we ordered…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3752\" data-end=\"3783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3752\" data-end=\"3769\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3785\" data-end=\"3881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3785\" data-end=\"3799\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> …we had to get them without the pork, and he also has a pine nut allergy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3883\" data-end=\"3908\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3883\" data-end=\"3900\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3910\" data-end=\"3943\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3910\" data-end=\"3924\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Still amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3945\" data-end=\"3970\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3945\" data-end=\"3962\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3972\" data-end=\"4087\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3972\" data-end=\"3986\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I think Brussels sprouts aren’t easy, I’m gonna say. But they did them absolutely perfectly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4089\" data-end=\"4114\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4089\" data-end=\"4106\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4116\" data-end=\"4202\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4116\" data-end=\"4130\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And I felt like all the food was on a level above. Really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4204\" data-end=\"4275\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4204\" data-end=\"4220\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, and since I’m the dessert guy, apparently…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4277\" data-end=\"4371\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4277\" data-end=\"4296\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I know. I was waiting to get to dessert. Richard, what did you have?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4373\" data-end=\"4434\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4373\" data-end=\"4389\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They had a pear and black currant crisp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4436\" data-end=\"4459\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4436\" data-end=\"4450\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yum!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4461\" data-end=\"4624\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4461\" data-end=\"4477\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Okay? It had that oat crisp, served hot with, of course, cold ice cream on top, which melted over the edges. Anyway, it was fantastic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4626\" data-end=\"4698\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4626\" data-end=\"4645\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, how many spoons were ordered with that one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4700\" data-end=\"4832\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4700\" data-end=\"4716\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We had four spoons. And trust me, that dish did not last long. The ice cream didn’t even have time to melt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4834\" data-end=\"4982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4834\" data-end=\"4853\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s good! And with all that food, did you feel like, hey, this is affordable? This is a place I could come back to?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4984\" data-end=\"5254\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4984\" data-end=\"5000\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Definitely. I mean, definitely. I’m not sure about bringing, like, a family, because it’s kind of more of an adult place, but definitely for coworkers to come after work and kind of decompress after a long week, I think it’s perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5256\" data-end=\"5289\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5256\" data-end=\"5273\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5291\" data-end=\"5400\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5291\" data-end=\"5305\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah. I’m a city kid, but I love Oakland. And I especially—you know, it’s BART-able.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5402\" data-end=\"5428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5402\" data-end=\"5419\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5430\" data-end=\"5590\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5430\" data-end=\"5444\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Short walk from BART. I love that little part of Oakland. Old Oakland is a really cool section, so I will definitely be going back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5592\" data-end=\"5618\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5592\" data-end=\"5609\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5620\" data-end=\"5658\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5620\" data-end=\"5636\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Fantastic choice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5660\" data-end=\"5837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5660\" data-end=\"5679\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try District, it’s located on Washington Street in Old Oakland, and the average tab per person without drinks is around \u003cstrong data-start=\"5827\" data-end=\"5834\">$45\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"198\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Looking for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try? 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Bay Area\u003c/em>.” I’m \u003cstrong data-start=\"653\" data-end=\"671\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>, and I’ll see you then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"701\" data-end=\"733\">Cheers, and \u003cstrong data-start=\"713\" data-end=\"731\">cheers to you!\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"735\" data-end=\"763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"735\" data-end=\"751\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"765\" data-end=\"821\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"765\" data-end=\"784\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Great job, great job, great job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"823\" data-end=\"854\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"823\" data-end=\"852\">[Indistinct conversation]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"907\" data-end=\"1212\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"907\" data-end=\"925\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The space has been here about 24 years now. When I first walked in three years ago, I thought this place was so awesome. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 15, airs Thursday, February 20, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This week’s culinary adventure begins at \u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> in Alameda, a vibrant eatery specializing in bold, aromatic Laotian cuisine. Highlights include tangy, refreshing papaya salad, spicy and savory pad kee mao noodles, and perfectly crisped pork belly. Next, \u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> in San Francisco’s Mission District combines a quirky, eclectic vibe with satisfying Italian-American comfort food. Guests enjoy their hearty five-layer Cadillac lasagna, spaghetti and meatballs, and their juicy, flavorful steak dinners served with red peppercorn jus and pesto spaghetti. Lastly, \u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> in downtown Oakland brings an elegant yet approachable dining experience, offering expertly crafted shareable plates designed to pair with an artfully curated selection of wines and cocktails. From classic Margherita pizza and crispy arancini romano to tender lamb meatballs and elote topped with roasted chili crema and cotija cheese, District’s menu thrills both wine enthusiasts and food lovers alike.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23378\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23378\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03.png 1620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Richard Hsu, Tonya Thomas and Jeff Hunt from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bhanmaevane.com/\">\u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> (Alameda)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://sfspaghettishack.com/\">\u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://districtoak.com/\">\u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> (Oakland)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23379\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1020x1360.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-160x213.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-768x1024.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1152x1536.png 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1536x2048.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1920x2560.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cuvaison.com/wines/release/2023-estate-sauvignon-blanc-2023\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cb>Cuvaison 2022 Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/b>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Napa Valley, Los Carneros, California $28\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nAs one of Napa Valley’s classic family producers, Cuvaison was founded in 1969 and has become not only a wine country destination but also a creator of benchmark wines. They are well known for elegant pinot noir and chardonnay. My pick for their superstar sipper, however, is sauvignon blanc. Made in a crisp, zesty style overflowing with lip-smacking citrus notes, this white has aromatic complexity from a touch of the grape semillon blended with the sauvignon blanc. A perfect complement to grilled fish dishes, feta-topped chicken and quinoa, and brunch casseroles. Stock up for year-round enjoyment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.vineyardbrands.com/wine.aspx?pid=159&cid=49446&wid=1625\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cstrong>Serena 2023 “MODE 0,0” Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Chile $15\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nIf you’re looking for a nonalcoholic white that still captures the freshness and character of sauvignon blanc, look no further than this impressive bottling from Miguel Torres in Chile. Finding delicious wine without alcohol can be a challenge. This is one of the first examples I heartily recommend. Light lemon-lime aromas are followed by a bright mouthful of flavor. Enjoy with chips and salsa on a sunny day.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"386\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"340\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Bold Laotian and Thai flavors in Alameda…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"439\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"402\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Hands on. I like to touch my food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"485\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"459\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"553\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"506\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a quirky Italian spot in San Francisco…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"623\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"572\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"644\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and a hip wine and whiskey lounge in Oakland…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"756\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"715\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Trust me, that dish did not last long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"777\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"847\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"841\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"879\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"868\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"881\" data-end=\"898\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"1426\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>, the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are retired lawyer and podcaster \u003cstrong data-start=\"1286\" data-end=\"1301\">Richard Hsu\u003c/strong>, podcaster and editor \u003cstrong data-start=\"1324\" data-end=\"1337\">Jeff Hunt\u003c/strong>, and senior analyst \u003cstrong data-start=\"1358\" data-end=\"1374\">Tonya Thomas\u003c/strong>. Well, welcome, everyone. Are you ready to party?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1443\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1436\">All:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1699\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1464\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Richard’s up first with his favorite date-night spot. It’s a casual little eatery founded by two sisters, bringing their own modern twist to traditional Thai and Laotian dishes. Nestled in the heart of Alameda, it’s Bhan Mae Vane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1732\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1715\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> Welcome, guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1841\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1748\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane is a Lao and Thai restaurant in the heart of Alameda, family-run business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1986\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1857\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> When we created this business, we created it in honor of our mom. My family came from Vientiane, which is the capital of Laos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2327\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2002\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Growing up, my mom ran a family restaurant. But back in those days, it was Thai food. It wasn’t Laotian food. My mom was afraid to really bring that out because nobody knew anything about Laos. Lao food, some ingredients are pungent, like anchovy sauce and shrimp paste sauce, so it adds a little bit more depth of flavor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"3041\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2343\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Nam Khao is our crispy rice ball salad that is a traditional Laotian dish, but it’s my mom’s twist to things—like add a little bit of this to give it more flavor here—because people don’t do that. So we’ve learned those little tips and tricks from her. My favorite item on the menu is the sakoo. Sakoo is savory tapioca balls. It’s ground pork with fresh shallots, onions, garlic, peanuts, wrapped with tapioca dough. Back in the day before we opened our restaurant, you’d get lucky if you’d get it from a little old lady selling it at the temple. It’s just a dish that you just can’t find anywhere. You wrap it all up in a bite-size and just pop it in, and it’s like, the best thing ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3146\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3057\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> People are actually coming in and ordering the Thai food and exploring the Lao food…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3170\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3162\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3211\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3186\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> …and also loving it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3578\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3227\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> If my mom was here and she could see what we’ve done with this restaurant in honor of her, I think she would be proud. My mom did get a chance to try my food, and one of the last things that she asked for before she passed away was, um… [voice breaking] my Pad Thai. She loved my food. And if she were to be looking down, she’d be very proud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3607\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3588\">All:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3609\" data-end=\"3621\">[cheering]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3742\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3642\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, Richard, you live in San Francisco, but you make that trek to Alameda. Is it worth it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"4016\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"3760\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s totally worth it for Bhan Mae Vane. My girlfriend grew up in Alameda. She discovered this restaurant. It’s very family-friendly. You can have large groups of people there. It’s bright and airy, it’s modern. It’s really a fun place to have dinner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4067\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4037\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what do you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4085\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So we always start with the sakoo, which is this amazing dish that’s served in a bamboo platter. And actually, eating it is kind of like a project. You take the tapioca ball, you put the mint leaf on top, you wrap it in lettuce, and then you eat it like a little burrito, maybe. And then you just get this wonderful sensation of chewiness and crispiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4465\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s one of those dishes we call “you can play with your food,” right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4567\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4588\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have that dish?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4765\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4630\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I did. Hands on. I like to touch my food. And there’s no manual, so you’re just kind of making it up as you go. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"5177\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"4784\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I ended up getting the pineapple khao pad. It was a beautiful dish. It had raisins. It had pineapple. Oh, and I can’t forget the cashews. That was just delicious and made everything come together very, very well. Then we ordered the garlic noodles. The noodles were buttery, which was absolutely delicious. It wasn’t overly garlicky. Very creamy. They came out hot. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5221\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5195\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s good to hear that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5277\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5242\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. What about you, Jeff?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5524\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5293\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fried tofu. Yum! With the Thai-style peanut sauce. I will never kick fried anything—especially tofu—out of bed. And it was delicious. I don’t know if it had to do with the way they cut it in triangles, but the fry was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5545\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Because triangles maybe give more fry sides?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> On the outsides. And the inside stayed soft and delicious and creamy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5753\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5698\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did you notice how generous the portions were there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5769\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yes, I did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5904\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5801\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> That’s one thing—you really get good bang for your buck at this restaurant. There’s often leftovers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5932\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5920\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5965\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5951\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"6620\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"5983\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> The main dish that we like that’s really excellent is their papaya salad, which is hand-shredded papaya. They make two styles. There’s a Thai style and a Laotian style. Now, the Thai style a lot of people have had—that’s just with standard fish sauce. But the Laotian style has a shrimp paste, so it makes it a little bit more seafoody. And Laotian food can be extremely spicy, so you have to specify which level of spiciness you want. It’s served with crunchy pork rinds, some soft noodles, as well as some cabbage, so it’s just an interesting experience. I’ve never been to Thailand or Laos, but it just makes me want to go there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6641\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, they’re right next to each other, right? So the cuisines are very, very similar. But as you said, just those minor differences make quite a difference in what you’re getting on the plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6866\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6855\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6901\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6887\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"89\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I actually visited Laos, and one of the things I loved the most was the food. And larb, in Thai, is one of my favorite Thai dishes. At this place, I believe it’s the same thing, called laab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"334\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"299\">Server:\u003c/strong> I have Laab Seen for you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"350\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And I was asked about the spice, and I said medium. I’m adventurous. And it was a little more than what I would call medium. I’ll just put it that way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"550\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"522\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was probably a killer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"566\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> [laughs] Yeah, right, right. But it was delicious all the same. It’s minced chicken meat and then herbs and peppers, and it’s so flavorful and just a really good dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"792\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"759\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any other dishes that you had?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"1126\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"811\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I did. I tried the red curry, and the protein that we used was the chicken. It came in this beautiful dish. It had lots of vegetables—bell peppers, radish. It had a whole lot of different vegetables in there that just merged very nicely together. The only thing, I just wish they had a little bit more chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1158\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1144\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1257\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1177\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> And the sauce was a little spicy, but the dish itself was delicious, so yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1278\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1393\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1302\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I don’t want to leave this restaurant discussion without talking about the pork belly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1417\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1411\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1487\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1438\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us. Tell us. ‘Cause I’m a pork belly fan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1503\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Good morning, good afternoon, and good night. I mean, I also won’t kick any pork belly out of bed, but what I really loved is that the crispiness was crisp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1688\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1680\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1812\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1704\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And the belly was soft. So you had that texture experience in your mouth, and the flavors—oh my goodness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1830\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1882\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1853\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s just so, so, so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"2001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"1900\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So one of the drinks that I don’t know if you guys got to try is called the Thai iced green tea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2032\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2017\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow. No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2297\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2050\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Which is not like a regular Thai iced tea. This is actually a green-colored drink with maybe a little bit of matcha in it. And it was layered so that the milk was on top and the green part was on the bottom, but it was very floral and fragrant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2349\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2318\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get any dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2367\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They only have two desserts there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2416\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2478\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2441\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> One is a sticky rice mango dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2505\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2494\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2971\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2523\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> And one is an egg custard purple rice dish. And they’re both served with this coconut creamy sauce, which makes it kind of a little savory and kind of a little bit sweet, and in both cases, you have the contrast of the rice, which is warm, and then you’ve got the cold mango, and then you have the warm purple rice with kind of a cold egg custard. So it just makes a beautiful kind of a soft dessert. But it really kind of rounds out the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"3033\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"2992\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Definitely cleanses your palate after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3051\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It cleanses your palate. It’s just kind of perfect, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3175\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3127\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s like a goodbye kiss from the restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3232\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3193\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that’s exactly what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3293\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3253\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love that. Would you stop by again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3631\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3312\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, absolutely. The service was good. We got there about lunchtime, and it wasn’t that many folks. We got seated pretty quickly. But I kid you not, within about 15 minutes, it started getting very full, to the point where they needed a wait list. So it just kind of attests to it being a very popular place to go to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3652\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it sounded like you’ll go back just for those desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3825\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3730\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Especially after this conversation, I’m going back, yeah. I’ll find a way to get to Alameda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3892\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3846\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You need that little kiss of dessert there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3919\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3908\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"4099\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"3940\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. If you would like to try Bhan Mae Vane, it’s located on Webster Street in Alameda, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a podcaster, Jeff has a passion for telling stories of the unique people and places you can only find in the city by the Bay. Case in point—the eclectic spot that’s become his go-to for Italian comfort food. Located in San Francisco’s Mission District, it’s Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"503\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"377\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The vibe of Emmy’s is super laid back, a little quirky. And I think it’s really, really hard to not have fun in this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"521\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"519\">[Cheering]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"539\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> I founded the restaurant in 2001. I was a server at the time in some pretty fancy places. We wanted somewhere to eat after work at 10:00, 11:00. We wanted music, we wanted good food, and a place where we could all feel like we belonged and we didn’t have to dress up and get fancy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"1096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"843\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> We don’t shy away from the portions here at Emmy’s. Italian-American comfort food, top to bottom. It’s big spaghetti and meatballs. It’s a big lasagna. You can share it with your friends. You can eat it yourself. No judgment, whatever you want to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1422\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1114\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> The thing I’m most proud of on the menu is the Cadillac Lasagna—vodka sauce, ricotta, sunflower seed pesto. We do a pork and beef ragu. You don’t get a lot of al dente lasagna. It’s not easy to do it. You should never be baking your lasagna. You’re baking your lasagna, you’re going the wrong direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1442\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The clientele at Emmy’s is all over the place, and I love that. It’s young, old. The servers—they’re always really nice people. They’re gonna be smiling. We’ll tell jokes. We’ll do shots if that’s your thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1704\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1665\">Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers, prost, yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1724\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> It’s really a community place. And that’s the thing that Emmy did, and I’m gonna keep going with. It’s one of my favorite things about this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1985\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1894\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You know, to use the word unique about Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, why do you think that is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2127\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2001\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I think of the place as part art gallery, part little kids’ playground, and part delicious, warm, comforting, hugging food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2157\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2148\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2181\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2173\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2216\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2202\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> In a shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2341\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2232\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> In a shack, yeah. I mean, yeah, and also the alliteration. Spaghetti Shack—who doesn’t want to go there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2425\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2362\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right. Okay, you walk in the door. What do you order?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2805\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2441\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> The first thing I usually order is their Caesar salad, which I think of as kind of a deconstructed Caesar. They’ve got the long strips of romaine covered with toasted Parmesan, and I don’t know what they do to their croutons, but they stay crunchy through the dressing, which is an anchovy dressing. And, hello, hello, hello, hello. Get in my mouth, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2862\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2826\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It checks all those boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2898\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2878\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> All of the boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2973\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what about you, Tonya? What did you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"3267\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"2992\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So I started with the butter lettuce salad. I’m a little disappointed now that I didn’t get the Caesar salad. The butter lettuce salad was basic. It had some radishes on it, and it had a citrusy dressing. It was good, but I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3326\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3283\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> You gotta be a little naughty at Emmy’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3365\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3345\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Exactly, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3386\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. What did you start with, Richard?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3446\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, I started with their spaghetti and meatballs. That’s what—they’re famous for it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3574\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3556\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Skip the salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3942\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3592\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. The spaghetti and meatballs. And I have to say, like, you know, I’m not a really big spaghetti person, but this spaghetti was just—it tasted like homemade. The meatballs were gigantic. This made me remember, like, how my mom might have made it. Or maybe my grandma made it. And I think that’s why people really love this restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"4022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"3963\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Jeff, did you get the spaghetti and meatballs this time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4150\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4038\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Because the spaghetti and meatballs is one of my best friends in the city, I chose not to get that this time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4243\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4171\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But do you agree, when you have gotten it, with Richard’s assessment?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4523\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4259\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s one of my good friends. I like to hang out with him. Him and her. No, because in general, I love lasagna. It’s one of my best comfort foods. And I had never had their lasagna. But it’s a different sauce than the spaghetti. It’s a light red vodka sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4565\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4541\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yes, I remember that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4780\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4581\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Also delicious. And then they do a little dollop of pesto and a little dollop of ricotta. So it’s got that Margherita, tricolore kind of Italian thing going on, and it was out of this world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"5029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"4799\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I had the lasagna as well, and I wholeheartedly agree. It was delicious. What I also enjoyed, too, was that the noodle itself was al dente, because sometimes people make it a little mushy. It was perfect, and you get a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5118\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5047\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did either of you get the garlic bread on the side, by any chance?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5208\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5134\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I didn’t on this last trip, but I know exactly that of which you speak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5560\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5226\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was so funny, because we ordered that kind of accidentally at the very end. And when that came out, we went with a group of friends, and they just wolfed that thing down. [laughs] I mean, this might be the best dish here. So I didn’t know. I just thought, “Maybe we should have a little garlic bread with spaghetti, you know?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5576\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> To sop it up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5643\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And it was—people just loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5691\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5664\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread for you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5907\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5710\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread. I had the focaccia bread that came with my dish. So that piece of bread came in handy. Was able to sop it up and finish it all. I literally—there was nothing left on my plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5923\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"419\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"65\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, we had the lasagna also, but the dish that we also had on top of that—we had a lot of people—was the peppercorn steak and the pesto spaghetti that goes on the side. And what’s amazing about the steak—it’s very tender and grilled and everything—is they put peppercorns in the steak, which I think tenderizes it. I’d never had that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"435\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s also a peppercorn au jus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"514\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"488\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, is that what it is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"530\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Got it, got it. And I wasn’t expecting that at a Spaghetti Shack, but it was really a nice dish. And we were really thrilled that we ordered that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"767\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"728\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have anything to sip on?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"979\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"785\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I had this really interesting drink called Lupe Under the Sun, and it was served with a little orange, and it had an umbrella in it, and it was a spicy mango tequila. Really hit the spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"1002\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"995\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1077\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1023\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You would definitely be on the beach under the sun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1117\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1095\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> For sure, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1153\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1138\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1637\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1171\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They have two off-the-menu desserts. There are actually no desserts on the menu, but we saw two desserts go by us as we were sitting there. So we, you know, pulled off the waiter and said, “Hey, what are those?” And then they told us it’s this decadent, decadent brownie with two scoops of ice cream, and they have a peanut butter bar with two scoops of ice cream. So when he said, “Look, these are the only two desserts,” we said, “We’ll take them both.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1661\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1653\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1721\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1682\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m gonna call you my dessert guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1804\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1739\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I know. I’m your dessert guy. We went all out on the desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1874\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1825\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm. And you did not have dessert, did you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1910\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1893\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No, I did not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1975\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1931\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. You did not see the desserts go by?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"2000\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"1994\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2018\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They’re off-menu, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2065\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Think of the calories you saved yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2130\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, lots. Although I think I made up with it with the wine because I absolutely had wine with my dinner. And I actually made it for happy hour, which was nice. I went on a Tuesday. So what I didn’t realize was that on Tuesdays, kids eat free. And I just kept seeing all these little kids coming. I’m like, “Oh, they’re cute.” I’m all, “Oh, there’s a lot of them.” And then I go, “Oh, it’s…” you know, they said, “Yes, it’s Kids Eat Free night.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2730\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2612\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a beautiful thing to have in that neighborhood, especially with the cost of food and taking your family out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2749\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2787\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2779\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2808\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you go back repeatedly, so you obviously feel the prices are fair?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"3053\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"2897\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I do, and I don’t always finish my meal. So sometimes it’s two meals, so even more bang for your buck. It’s a comforting food and a comforting place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3263\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3074\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, if you would like to try Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, it’s located on Mission Street in San Francisco, and the average dinner tab per person without drinks is around \u003cstrong data-start=\"3253\" data-end=\"3260\">$50\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3284\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tonya’s a girl after my own heart. Give her a glass of Pinot paired with some globally inspired small plates, and she’s all set for the perfect night out. She’s found her happy place in the heart of Old Oakland at District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3545\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3543\">[music playing]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3562\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> When you walk into District, it’s so fun, energetic, good food, good conversation. It’s a wonderful place to hang out and enjoy downtown Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3751\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3725\">Host:\u003c/strong> We need a spot for two?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3807\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3768\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> All right. Let’s see what we can do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"4136\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"3824\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Our original location in San Francisco was solely a wine bar. When we opened up the Oakland location, our concept expanded into a wine and whiskey bar. We do flights of whiskey as well as single portions, and we have a large amount of allocated whiskeys you really can’t find almost anywhere else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4172\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4148\">Guest:\u003c/strong> Cheers to District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4201\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4187\">Guest #2:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4218\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Here at District, we do love our strong flavors. Our executive chef, Bob Cina, has a globally inspired menu of small plates—flavors from Mediterranean, Asian, and Peruvian influences. And it’s also seasonally done to create a different experience every time you walk into District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4524\" data-end=\"4556\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4524\" data-end=\"4533\">Host:\u003c/strong> Welcome. Come on in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4558\" data-end=\"4779\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4558\" data-end=\"4573\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> My favorite thing on the menu—charcuterie and cheese. I think it’s a beautiful offering. It pairs so well with both whiskey and wine. It’s a delicious place to start your evening at District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4781\" data-end=\"5039\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4781\" data-end=\"4796\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Old Oakland, hence the name, is the oldest part of downtown Oakland. Beautiful architecture, tree-lined streets. It’s a wonderful community down here. We have so many regulars who support us. People enjoy coming here after work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5065\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5054\">Guest #3:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5091\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5080\">Guest #4:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5373\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5108\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> And then in the evening time, we turn into a more vibrant lounge with exciting music and just a lot of fun entertainment. Walk in on any Friday night, I know half the people at the bar, and they know each other. It’s really a wonderful place to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5388\">Guest #5:\u003c/strong> That’s the town biz, baby. Uh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"184\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Tonya, this place looks like a good spot to watch a game, right, or sit at the bar. What brings you there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"186\" data-end=\"515\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"186\" data-end=\"203\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So not only can you watch the game. There might be a birthday party going on, an anniversary. There’s a lot of different things that go on at District. People think, “Oh, it’s a bar.” But when you look at the menu, you’re like, “Okay, these aren’t typical things that you could see at a bar per se.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"517\" data-end=\"903\">I always start with the Arancini Romano. It has a nice breadcrumb crust on the outside, and inside, nice cheesy risotto and spinach. Really delicious. It also is plated very nicely. It has this little garnish that comes on top. 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I didn’t know that existed, and now I do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3609\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3565\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They add a nice little pop of herbal…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3750\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3625\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> A pop, and that beautiful—yes. So good. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 18, episode 4, airs Thursday, May 11, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes, \u003c/a>and never miss an episode by \u003ca href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/check-please-bay-area-podcast/id192399537?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">subscribing to the video podcast\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A bustling, open kitchen greets you at Berkeley’s \u003cstrong>Comal\u003c/strong>, a go-to spot for fresh, handmade tortillas, tequila flights and other regional Oaxacan favorites. With a lush, intimate patio and al fresco beer garden, this Michelin Bib Gourmand-recognized spot is a perfect place to indulge with a craft cocktail or signature shareable snack. Then, tucked away in Mill Valley’s Tam Junction, \u003cstrong>Hook Fish Co\u003c/strong> prepares sustainable seafood in mellow yet mouthwatering ways, from loaded fish burritos to delicate, citrus-forward poke and ceviche. Finally, in Oakland, at yet another Bib Gourmand-recognized joint, \u003cstrong>Jo’s Modern Thai\u003c/strong> is a date night destination for those in the mood to fall in love – with bold, fragrant Thai dishes! Inspired by and embodying tropical vibes, Jo’s pairs traditional Thai recipes with familiar California ingredients. Reporter Cecilia Phillips closes out this week’s episode with a visit to \u003cstrong>Presidio Tunnel Tops\u003c/strong>, San Francisco’s new federal park, a 14-acre urban oasis with unbeatable views of the Golden Gate Bridge; there, she samples innovative tea-infused ice creams, Pakistani favorites, Afghan street food and more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_21774\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-21774 size-large\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/40/2023/05/1804_CPBA_Comal_HookFish_JosModernThai_Guests_LS-1020x574.jpeg\" alt='Three Bay Area residents join host Leslie Sbrocco in lifting their wine glasses in a \"cheers.\" ' width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/05/1804_CPBA_Comal_HookFish_JosModernThai_Guests_LS-1020x574.jpeg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/05/1804_CPBA_Comal_HookFish_JosModernThai_Guests_LS-800x450.jpeg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/05/1804_CPBA_Comal_HookFish_JosModernThai_Guests_LS-160x90.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/05/1804_CPBA_Comal_HookFish_JosModernThai_Guests_LS-768x432.jpeg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/05/1804_CPBA_Comal_HookFish_JosModernThai_Guests_LS-1536x864.jpeg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/05/1804_CPBA_Comal_HookFish_JosModernThai_Guests_LS.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Julie Wong, Alexander Coughlin and Nina Moreno from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://comalberkeley.com\">\u003cb>Comal\u003c/b>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://hookfishco.com\">\u003cstrong>Hook Fish Co\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.josmodernthai.com\">\u003cstrong>Jo’s Modern Thai\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.presidiotunneltops.gov/\">\u003cstrong>Presidio Pop Up at Presidio Tunnel Tops\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-e1555453920739.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1297\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! 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"content": "\u003cp>[aside postID='bayareabites_136732' label='Support Season 15 Restaurants From Home']\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em> Season 15 episode 12 airs Thursday, June 18 at 7:30pm on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>. And never miss an episode by \u003ca href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/check-please-bay-area-podcast/id192399537?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">subscribing to the video podcast\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For a meal unlike any other, we start in a Richmond warehouse for a multi-course, farm-to-table communal dining experience at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://table.anaviv.com/\">\u003cb>Anaviv’s Table\u003c/b>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. 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Not only did founder Mary Novak pass on her love of Spottswoode to her daughters, Beth and Lindy, who are now in charge, but with quiet strength she helped shape the historic property into the lauded star it is today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://monkey47.com/the-schwarzwald-dna\">Monkey 47 Schwarzwald Dry Gin\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Germany (375 ml), $45\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nAs a gin lover, I appreciate the character of each gin. Much like a beautiful necklace crafted with a variety of stones pieced together to make a whole, gins use various blends of botanicals to achieve their final style. That’s why I adore Monkey 47 Gin. It’s exotic and distinct, but also simply delicious to sip. Made in Germany’s Black Forest using natural spring water from the area, they also utilize local ingredients such as lingonberries, angelica root and acacia flowers. These are only some of the 47 botanicals used, which impart its powerful and magnetic charm. 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"content": "\u003cp>[aside postID='bayareabites_136732' label='Support Season 15 Restaurants From Home']\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em> Season 15 episode 11 airs Thursday, June 11 at 7:30pm on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>. And never miss an episode by \u003ca href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/check-please-bay-area-podcast/id192399537?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">subscribing to the video podcast\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Up in Yountville, impeccably-precise sushi, famous fried chicken sandwiches, and other modern California classics are served with a smile at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://rd-kitchen.com/locations/yountville/\">\u003cb>R+D Kitchen\u003c/b>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. 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The boutique winery is heralded for age-worthy, world-class bottlings of Cabernet Sauvignon, so that was no surprise. But then there was a hiatus in production and the favored wine returned only recently. This 2017 bottling is made by winemaker, Thomas Brown, from fruit grown exclusively in Napa’s Oakville appellation. Its rich, full bodied flair is complemented by a supple structure and concentrated dark fruit notes. It’s a wine to age for a decade, but why wait? 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