California's Democratic Leaders Clash With Businesses Over Curbing Retail Theft. Here's What to Know
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California Lawmakers Look for Balance Amid Solutions to Stop Retail Theft
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State lawmakers are trying to preserve progressive policies and stay away from putting more people behind bars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two most likely paths under consideration this year are \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-crime-ballot-initiative-signatures-theft-fentanyl-e4863b0eb0b8808ea8f5746c60780ba7\">a ballot initiative\u003c/a> to create harsher penalties for repeat offenders, and \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-retail-theft-legislation-5f045e9d346b570a69d395e949207f1f\">a legislative package\u003c/a> aimed at making it easier to go after professional crime rings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leaders behind the two efforts have accused one another of misleading voters and being unwilling to work toward a compromise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 class=\"mb-0 pb-2 ap-font-bold\">How did we get here?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Both sides agree on the need to crack down, especially on \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/business-health-government-and-politics-california-coronavirus-pandemic-d0c6dc49ef4cd6d05f649a860bd72888\">large-scale thefts\u003c/a> in which groups of people brazenly rush into stores and take goods in plain sight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the center of the escalating political fight is Proposition 47, a progressive ballot measure passed by voters in 2014 that reduced certain theft and drug possession offenses \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-160551360299\">from felonies to misdemeanors\u003c/a> — in part to mitigate overcrowding in jails and prisons. That includes nonviolent property crimes such as thefts under $950.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has made it \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/business-california-theft-8dec92007049f1fa41f9e280882bcef6\">harder to arrest and punish\u003c/a> people who shoplift, law enforcement said. Researchers told lawmakers there’s no evidence linking the proposition to \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/the-impact-of-proposition-47-on-crime-and-recidivism/\">increased violent crime rates\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 class=\"mb-0 pb-2 ap-font-bold\">How are the two solutions different?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>A coalition of district attorneys and businesses, mostly funded by big box retailers, is pushing for an initiative to bring harsh penalties for shoplifting and drug offenses. It would make theft of any amount a felony if the person already has two theft convictions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Possession of fentanyl would also become a felony, and those with multiple drug charges would be ordered to get treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ballot measure would still need to be certified by the Secretary of State before it could be placed on the ballot later this month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California’s Democratic leadership, backed by Gov. Gavin Newsom, wants to keep the tough-on-crime measure \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-retail-theft-legislation-smash-grab-4472b135a8c811cffac2d35571a99cae\">off the November ballot\u003c/a>. They worry the ballot measure’s proposal would disproportionately criminalize low-income people and those with substance use issues rather than target ringleaders who \u003ca href=\"https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2024/02/16/san-diego-county-woman-charged-as-ringleader-of-retail-scheme-involving-millions-in-stolen-beauty-products/\">hire large groups of people to steal\u003c/a> goods for them to resell online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, lawmakers are fast-tracking a legislative package of 14 bills that would \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-retail-theft-ecommerce-0b0a9724e054ef32f2000663082b957a\">go after organized online reseller schemes\u003c/a> and auto thieves, and provide funding for drug addiction counselors. These proposals could become laws as early as this month.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 class=\"mb-0 pb-2 ap-font-bold\">Do the efforts conflict?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If voters approve the tough-on-crime ballot initiative, Democratic leaders plan to void most measures in their own legislative package, citing potential conflicts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawmakers were short on details about how the two paths conflict earlier this week. Later, they said they fear if both efforts succeed, law enforcement would be able to stack penalties and send more people to jails, leading to mass incarceration and overcrowded jails.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About a third of the measures in the package pose possible legal conflicts with the proposals in the ballot initiative, according to lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ballot initiative campaign accused lawmakers of holding the proposals hostage to break up the coalition. Local district attorneys who backed the ballot campaign said both efforts could work together, with the ballot measure overriding the legislative package in case of legal conflicts.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 class=\"mb-0 pb-2 ap-font-bold\">What happens next?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Backers of the ballot initiative said they’re still open to working with Democratic leadership but will only consider any solutions that involve rolling back Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11982393,news_11982070,news_11979533\"]“We still stand ready to sit down with anybody in leadership to talk about the measure, but I don’t want to compromise,” Greg Totten, a retired district attorney and a leader of the ballot initiative campaign, said during a news conference this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom and Democratic leaders have until June 27 to negotiate to get the initiative off the ballot. 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They worry the ballot measure’s proposal would disproportionately criminalize low-income people and those with substance use issues rather than target ringleaders who \u003ca href=\"https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2024/02/16/san-diego-county-woman-charged-as-ringleader-of-retail-scheme-involving-millions-in-stolen-beauty-products/\">hire large groups of people to steal\u003c/a> goods for them to resell online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, lawmakers are fast-tracking a legislative package of 14 bills that would \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-retail-theft-ecommerce-0b0a9724e054ef32f2000663082b957a\">go after organized online reseller schemes\u003c/a> and auto thieves, and provide funding for drug addiction counselors. These proposals could become laws as early as this month.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 class=\"mb-0 pb-2 ap-font-bold\">Do the efforts conflict?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If voters approve the tough-on-crime ballot initiative, Democratic leaders plan to void most measures in their own legislative package, citing potential conflicts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawmakers were short on details about how the two paths conflict earlier this week. Later, they said they fear if both efforts succeed, law enforcement would be able to stack penalties and send more people to jails, leading to mass incarceration and overcrowded jails.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About a third of the measures in the package pose possible legal conflicts with the proposals in the ballot initiative, according to lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ballot initiative campaign accused lawmakers of holding the proposals hostage to break up the coalition. Local district attorneys who backed the ballot campaign said both efforts could work together, with the ballot measure overriding the legislative package in case of legal conflicts.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 class=\"mb-0 pb-2 ap-font-bold\">What happens next?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Backers of the ballot initiative said they’re still open to working with Democratic leadership but will only consider any solutions that involve rolling back Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","postid":"news_11982393,news_11982070,news_11979533"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“We still stand ready to sit down with anybody in leadership to talk about the measure, but I don’t want to compromise,” Greg Totten, a retired district attorney and a leader of the ballot initiative campaign, said during a news conference this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom and Democratic leaders have until June 27 to negotiate to get the initiative off the ballot. Meanwhile, lawmakers have plans to deliver the legislative package to Newsom’s desk by next week for signing, despite \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/AlvaradoGilSD4/status/1800954802798723105\">growing concerns\u003c/a> from moderate Democrats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When you look at the package that we put together, it’s very comprehensive and it addresses a number of details in the existing framework of the law,” Assemblymember Rick Zbur, author of a retail theft bill, told reporters. “It was never intended to be something that was stacked on to a ballot measure that removed the underpinnings of the basic law that we were trying to reform.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11990587/californias-democratic-leaders-clash-with-businesses-over-curbing-retail-theft-heres-what-to-know","authors":["byline_news_11990587"],"categories":["news_31795","news_34167","news_8"],"tags":["news_18502","news_34195"],"featImg":"news_11990592","label":"news"},"news_11987415":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11987415","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11987415","score":null,"sort":[1716422213000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-lawmakers-pass-slew-of-bills-cracking-down-on-stolen-goods-resellers-and-auto-theft","title":"California Lawmakers Pass Slew of Bills Cracking Down on Stolen Goods Resellers and Auto Theft","publishDate":1716422213,"format":"standard","headTitle":"California Lawmakers Pass Slew of Bills Cracking Down on Stolen Goods Resellers and Auto Theft | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>The California Senate approved a bipartisan package of 15 bills on Wednesday that would increase penalties for organized crime rings, expand drug court programs and close a legal loophole to make it easier to prosecute \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/kia-hyundai-thefts-california-rob-bonta-tik-tok-challenge-210a258b5e6c032cea04917271146fe3\">auto thefts.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One proposal would require large online marketplaces — like eBay and Amazon — to verify the identities of sellers who make at least $5,000 profit in a year, an attempt to shut down an easy way to sell stolen goods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is not a game,” said Senate President Mike McGuire, a Democrat who represents the North Coast, adding that he hopes to get the bills to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk within weeks. “We are working together for [a] safer California, putting aside politics and making sure we do right for our communities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It normally takes months for lawmakers to deliver bills to the governor in California, but the commitment to quick action is driven by a new get-tough-on-crime strategy in an election year that seeks to address the growing fears of voters while \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-retail-theft-legislation-smash-grab-4472b135a8c811cffac2d35571a99cae\">preserving progressive policies\u003c/a> designed to keep people out of prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Large-scale thefts, in which groups of people brazenly rush into stores and take goods in plain sight, have reached a crisis level in the state, though the California Retailers Association said it’s challenging to quantify the issue because many stores don’t share their data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-sports-business-health-lifestyle-538efc664e9da0d2f0831f3f3ed9a4d7\">Bay Area\u003c/a> and Los Angeles saw a steady increase in shoplifting between 2021 and 2022, according to a study of the latest crime data by the Public Policy Institute of California. Across the state, shoplifting rates rose during the same period but were still lower than the pre-pandemic levels in 2019, while commercial burglaries and robberies have become more prevalent in urban counties, according to the study.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assembly lawmakers are also expected to vote on their own retail theft legislation on Wednesday, including a bill authored by Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas taking aim at professional theft rings. It would expand law enforcement’s authority to combine the value of goods stolen from different victims to impose harsher penalties and arrest people for shoplifting using video footage or witness statements. The measure also would create a new crime for those who sell or return stolen goods and mandate online sellers to maintain records proving the merchandise wasn’t stolen and require some retail businesses to report stolen goods data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11982393,news_11980483,news_11979533\"]The advancement of a slew of measures further cements Democratic lawmakers’ rejection of growing calls to roll back progressive policies like Proposition 47, a ballot measure approved by 60% of state voters in 2014 that reduced penalties for certain crimes, including thefts of items valued at under $950 and drug possession offenses, from felonies to misdemeanors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Money saved from having fewer people in prison, which totals $113 million this fiscal year, has gone to local programs to fight recidivism with much success, state officials and advocates said. But the proposition has made it harder to prosecute shoplifters and enabled brazen crime rings, law enforcement officials said. An effort to reform the measure failed in 2020.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As major national stores and local businesses in California say they continue to face rampant theft, a growing number of law enforcement officials and district attorneys, along with Republican and moderate Democratic lawmakers, say California needs to consider all options, including rolling back the measure. The coalition backing the initiative last month \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-crime-ballot-initiative-signatures-theft-fentanyl-e4863b0eb0b8808ea8f5746c60780ba7\">submitted more than 900,000 signatures\u003c/a> to put it on the November ballot. The signatures are being verified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"California lawmakers have advanced more than a dozen bills to address the retail theft crisis, going after online reselling schemes, repeat shoplifters and auto theft.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721130925,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":12,"wordCount":612},"headData":{"title":"California Lawmakers Pass Slew of Bills Cracking Down on Stolen Goods Resellers and Auto Theft | KQED","description":"California lawmakers have advanced more than a dozen bills to address the retail theft crisis, going after online reselling schemes, repeat shoplifters and auto theft.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California Lawmakers Pass Slew of Bills Cracking Down on Stolen Goods Resellers and Auto Theft","datePublished":"2024-05-22T16:56:53-07:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T04:55:25-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"Trân Nguyễn, Associated Press","nprStoryId":"kqed-11987415","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11987415/california-lawmakers-pass-slew-of-bills-cracking-down-on-stolen-goods-resellers-and-auto-theft","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The California Senate approved a bipartisan package of 15 bills on Wednesday that would increase penalties for organized crime rings, expand drug court programs and close a legal loophole to make it easier to prosecute \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/kia-hyundai-thefts-california-rob-bonta-tik-tok-challenge-210a258b5e6c032cea04917271146fe3\">auto thefts.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One proposal would require large online marketplaces — like eBay and Amazon — to verify the identities of sellers who make at least $5,000 profit in a year, an attempt to shut down an easy way to sell stolen goods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is not a game,” said Senate President Mike McGuire, a Democrat who represents the North Coast, adding that he hopes to get the bills to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk within weeks. “We are working together for [a] safer California, putting aside politics and making sure we do right for our communities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It normally takes months for lawmakers to deliver bills to the governor in California, but the commitment to quick action is driven by a new get-tough-on-crime strategy in an election year that seeks to address the growing fears of voters while \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-retail-theft-legislation-smash-grab-4472b135a8c811cffac2d35571a99cae\">preserving progressive policies\u003c/a> designed to keep people out of prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Large-scale thefts, in which groups of people brazenly rush into stores and take goods in plain sight, have reached a crisis level in the state, though the California Retailers Association said it’s challenging to quantify the issue because many stores don’t share their data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-sports-business-health-lifestyle-538efc664e9da0d2f0831f3f3ed9a4d7\">Bay Area\u003c/a> and Los Angeles saw a steady increase in shoplifting between 2021 and 2022, according to a study of the latest crime data by the Public Policy Institute of California. Across the state, shoplifting rates rose during the same period but were still lower than the pre-pandemic levels in 2019, while commercial burglaries and robberies have become more prevalent in urban counties, according to the study.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assembly lawmakers are also expected to vote on their own retail theft legislation on Wednesday, including a bill authored by Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas taking aim at professional theft rings. It would expand law enforcement’s authority to combine the value of goods stolen from different victims to impose harsher penalties and arrest people for shoplifting using video footage or witness statements. The measure also would create a new crime for those who sell or return stolen goods and mandate online sellers to maintain records proving the merchandise wasn’t stolen and require some retail businesses to report stolen goods data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","postid":"news_11982393,news_11980483,news_11979533"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The advancement of a slew of measures further cements Democratic lawmakers’ rejection of growing calls to roll back progressive policies like Proposition 47, a ballot measure approved by 60% of state voters in 2014 that reduced penalties for certain crimes, including thefts of items valued at under $950 and drug possession offenses, from felonies to misdemeanors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Money saved from having fewer people in prison, which totals $113 million this fiscal year, has gone to local programs to fight recidivism with much success, state officials and advocates said. But the proposition has made it harder to prosecute shoplifters and enabled brazen crime rings, law enforcement officials said. An effort to reform the measure failed in 2020.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As major national stores and local businesses in California say they continue to face rampant theft, a growing number of law enforcement officials and district attorneys, along with Republican and moderate Democratic lawmakers, say California needs to consider all options, including rolling back the measure. The coalition backing the initiative last month \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-crime-ballot-initiative-signatures-theft-fentanyl-e4863b0eb0b8808ea8f5746c60780ba7\">submitted more than 900,000 signatures\u003c/a> to put it on the November ballot. The signatures are being verified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11987415/california-lawmakers-pass-slew-of-bills-cracking-down-on-stolen-goods-resellers-and-auto-theft","authors":["byline_news_11987415"],"categories":["news_31795","news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_32949","news_17725","news_1852","news_18502"],"featImg":"news_11987416","label":"news"},"news_11986894":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11986894","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11986894","score":null,"sort":[1716231659000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1716231659,"format":"standard","title":"Tough-on-Crime Ballot Measure Claims to Tackle Housing Crisis, Experts Doubtful","headTitle":"Tough-on-Crime Ballot Measure Claims to Tackle Housing Crisis, Experts Doubtful | KQED","content":"\u003cp>Homelessness gets top billing in a measure likely to make it onto your November ballot. Whether the measure has anything to do with homelessness is debatable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The initiative proponents are calling the “\u003ca href=\"https://casafecommunities.com/\">Homelessness, Drug Addiction, and Theft Reduction Act\u003c/a>” would increase penalties for some drug and theft crimes by rolling back\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>Proposition 47\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>— the criminal justice changes California voters passed a decade ago. It also would force some people arrested three or more times for drug crimes into treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But where does \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/category/housing/homelessness/\">homelessness\u003c/a> factor into this tough-on-crime measure? The initiative includes no money for housing, shelter or treatment beds — leading some experts to question how it would help get California’s more than 181,000 unhoused residents off the street in a state where recent research shows\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2023/06/california-homeless-growth-report/\"> loss of income is the leading cause\u003c/a> of homelessness. Nor does the measure allocate or create new funding sources to pay cities or counties to enforce it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Yolo County District Attorney Jeff Reisig, who helped author the proposed ballot measure, the philosophy is simple: The measure would slash the homeless population by pushing those struggling with drug addiction into treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The big part of this, which is the key to the program, is it’s going to be compelled,” Reisig said. “People are going to have to go through the program or accept the consequences.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, according to Elliott Currie, a professor of criminology, law and society at the University of California Irvine, the measure is based on a false assumption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The theory is that people are homeless because we’ve been too lenient with drug addiction,” Currie said. “I think I can safely say that I don’t see one shred of serious evidence that that’s what’s going on.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Did Proposition 47 increase homelessness in California?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The proposed ballot measure targets Proposition 47, which, when passed by voters in 2014, reduced certain theft and drug crimes from felonies to misdemeanors. In some circles, Proposition 47 is now being blamed for a \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2024/04/california-crime-oakland-san-francisco-businesses-residents/\">perceived increase in crime\u003c/a> — and a fierce debate is raging over \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/capitol/2024/04/california-crime-progressives-bills/\">whether and how to change it\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Backers of the measure, which is likely to qualify for the ballot after it recently \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-crime-ballot-initiative-signatures-theft-fentanyl-e4863b0eb0b8808ea8f5746c60780ba7\">submitted more than 900,000 signatures\u003c/a> (about 547,000 valid ones are required), also blame Proposition 47 for California’s dire homelessness crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the decade that Proposition 47 has been in effect, homelessness in California has grown by more than half — and backers of the proposed ballot measure say the two are “directly connected.” They argue by watering down the legal consequences for drug use, Proposition 47 removed the incentives for homeless Californians to participate in mental health and drug treatment, and as a result, fewer are. Because of that, they argue, more people are living on the streets.[aside label='Related Coverage' tag='housing']“One of the primary root causes of homelessness is serious addiction, which is debilitating and results in people not being able to function or even hold a job,” Reisig said in an interview with CalMatters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s true that \u003ca href=\"https://www.innovatingjustice.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/2020-03/report_sentencingreform_03262020.pdf\">participation in drug courts dropped\u003c/a> throughout the state in the wake of Proposition 47. In San Diego County, for example, more than 650 people went through drug court in the year before Proposition 47 passed. By 2021, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2022/07/california-drug-courts-prop-47/#:~:text=A%202020%20paper%20from%20the,67%25%20between%202014%20and%202018\">it was down to just 255\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As evidence Proposition 47 is tied to homelessness, backers of the measure point to states with stronger drug laws and smaller homeless populations. Illinois, for example, has a homeless rate about five times less than California’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there are a lot of other factors — especially housing costs — contributing to the state’s homelessness crisis. Fair market rent for a \u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/fmr/fmrs/FY2024_code/2024state_summary.odn\">two-bedroom in Chicago is just $1,714\u003c/a> — nearly half the going rate in San Francisco. The \u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/fmr/fmrs/FY2024_code/2024state_summary.odn\">San Francisco area rate\u003c/a> increased by 72% since Proposition 47 passed, hitting $3,359 this year, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some experts who study crime and homelessness, the ballot measure is baffling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not aware of any data that shows a connection between Prop. 47 and homelessness,” said Charis Kubrin, a professor of criminology at UC Irvine. “So it’s a bit of a puzzle to me why they’re together like that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Blaming the state’s spike in homelessness on Proposition 47 is “preposterous,” said Sharon Rapport, director of California state policy for the Corporation for Supportive Housing. “All of the changes that the (ballot measure) is proposing have nothing, nothing whatsoever, to do with homelessness.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The organization hasn’t even taken an official position on the measure because, Rapport said, it’s not related to homelessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2023/06/california-homeless-growth-report/\">The number one reason Californians end up homeless\u003c/a> is a loss of income — not drug use, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://homelessness.ucsf.edu/our-impact/studies/california-statewide-study-people-experiencing-homelessness\">UC San Francisco study\u003c/a> that provides the most comprehensive look yet at the state’s homelessness crisis. And in the six months before becoming homeless, the people surveyed were making a median income of just $960 a month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That doesn’t mean drug use has nothing to do with homelessness. Nearly a third of people surveyed reported using methamphetamines three times a week, while 11% used non-prescribed opioids. Other studies have had varying results: a 2022 Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research study, which cited research from multiple surveys across several states, showed that \u003ca href=\"https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/homelessness-california-causes-and-policy-considerations#footnote-1\">43% to 88%\u003c/a> of the homeless population struggled with drug abuse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Drug and alcohol overdoses \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/homelessness/2024/02/homeless-mortality-report/#:~:text=Nationwide%2C%20drug%20and%20alcohol%20overdoses,a%20488%25%20increase%20from%202011.\">are also the leading cause of death\u003c/a> for homeless people nationwide, according to a February study examining mortality rates among unhoused people between 2011 and 2020.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s clear not everyone on the streets has an addiction. Therefore, the proposed ballot measure would leave out a large chunk of the state’s homeless population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the measure helps even a third of California’s 181,000 unhoused residents — that’s a huge number, Reisig said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ll take that,” he said. “I’ll take that number to try and get those people well, and to get them reintegrated, and to keep them out of jail and prison, and keep them from dying on the street of overdose or murder.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This measure might help some people get sober, said Benjamin Henwood, director of the USC Center for Homelessness, Housing and Health Equity Research. But for many people, that won’t be enough to end their homelessness, he said. While being sober might make someone more likely to get a job, it won’t make housing any less expensive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The question is: Once treatment is up, where do they go?” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under this measure, the answer to that question will depend on each individual county and how much, if any, housing they make available for people coming out of treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How would the Homelessness, Drug Addiction, and Theft Reduction Act work?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If voters approve the proposed ballot measure, certain repeat drug offenses could be prosecuted as a “treatment-mandated felony.” That means the third time someone is arrested for a drug offense, they could be given a choice between jail or mandatory addiction and mental health treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure says people participating in mandatory treatment also would be offered “shelter, job training, and other services designed to break the cycle of addiction and homelessness.” But it doesn’t say how any of that would be paid for. It would be up to counties to decide whether to offer shelter and other services and how to fund them, Reisig said.[aside postID=news_11986380 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CEO-STORY-15-ZS-KQED-1-1020x680.jpg']“That will have to be deployed in each county to the extent they can do it,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But without guaranteeing those housing services, the measure could actually worsen homelessness, Currie said. There’s already a robust jail-to-homelessness pipeline in California: 43% of those surveyed in the UCSF study were in jail or prison or on probation or parole in the six months before they became homeless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Anybody who says you’ve got to solve the problem by putting more people behind bars, but you then don’t say anything about how you’re going to help them re-enter when they come out — I think that’s pretty bogus,” Currie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure also doesn’t specify how the mandatory drug and mental health treatment would be funded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Resources for treatment are already stretched thin in California. In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/Documents/Assessing-the-Continuum-of-Care-for-BH-Services-in-California.pdf\">2022 survey\u003c/a> by the state’s Department of Health Care Services, 70% of California counties reported “urgently” needing more residential addiction treatment, while nearly 40% didn’t have any residential facilities at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to providing no new funding, the proposed ballot measure could actually end up \u003cem>reducing \u003c/em>funds for the very programs it’s trying to bolster, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/fiscal-impact-estimate-report%2823-0017A1%29.pdf\">report from the independent Legislative Analyst’s Office\u003c/a>. That’s because Proposition 47 saved the state money in criminal justice costs by diverting people away from prison and jail. Those savings are earmarked for projects that provide mental health and substance use treatment (\u003ca href=\"https://www.bscc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/Prop-47-C1-final-evaluation-report.pdf\">nearly $104 million was awarded\u003c/a> between 2017 and 2020, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.bscc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/H-2-Proposition-47-Cohort-2-Final-Evaluation-Report-FINAL-1.pdf\">another $96 million\u003c/a> between 2019 and 2023).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By gutting Proposition 47 and funneling more people into the state’s jails and prisons, the Legislative Analyst estimates the proposed ballot measure would eat away at those savings and increase criminal justice costs by as much as tens of millions of dollars per year. That could mean less money for mental health services and addiction treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reisig dismissed that worry, saying, at least in Yolo County, where he is district attorney, Proposition 47 savings haven’t made much difference. “There’s literally nothing that I fear losing through this program,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is some new money available from other pots. In March, California voters approved a \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/homelessness/2024/01/california-homeless-prop-1/\">$6.4 billion bond\u003c/a> to pay for 6,800 beds in facilities treating mental illness and addiction and as many as 4,350 housing units for people who need those services. The state is \u003ca href=\"https://mentalhealth.ca.gov/\">set to start awarding that money\u003c/a> in the spring and summer of 2025, \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/05/14/california-moves-faster-to-transform-mental-health-system-for-all-with-urgent-focus-on-most-seriously-ill-homeless/\">Newsom said this month\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at the same time, to plug a yawning budget deficit, Newsom has \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2024/05/may-revise-2024-homeless-housing/\">proposed cutting funds\u003c/a> from the Behavioral Health Bridge Housing Program, which provides beds for people who need mental health and addiction services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currie said he is “skeptical” of the lack of funding mechanisms for treatment programs and other services to ensure homeless people stay off the streets post-treatment. That, he said, could burden counties that already struggle with insufficient funding for such services — one in five homeless people surveyed by UCSF researchers said they sought substance abuse treatment but failed to get it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You can’t just say, ‘OK, you counties. Since you are swimming in so much money after all … we are going to mandate drug treatment for some people on top of the existing number of clients,’” Currie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The politics of homelessness\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Some political strategists say the measure’s tie to homelessness represents the campaign’s attempt to capitalize on public concern about the problem. Homelessness is a top issue on California voters’ minds, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/ppic-statewide-survey-californians-and-their-government-february-2024/\">February 2024 statewide survey\u003c/a> by the Public Policy Institute of California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This notion somehow that it addresses homelessness is deceptive and downright farcical,” said Garry South, a longtime Democratic consultant who has worked on ballot measures for more than 20 years.[aside postID=news_11986281 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/ALAS_1_WEB-KQED-1020x675.jpg']Homelessness is ultimately due to a lack of housing, he argued, and measures aiming to address the problem without providing housing are “disingenuous.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’ve heard the old saying ‘Putting lipstick on a pig,’” South said. “I’m not saying that this measure is a pig, but what I’m saying is it’s a standard procedure … to try to gussy it up with some reference or some provision that really strikes a responsive chord with voters when that’s not really what the initiative is about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the measure appears before voters in November, “homelessness” won’t be in the title they see on their ballots. The \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/Title%20and%20Summary%20%2823-0017A1%29.pdf\">official title\u003c/a> of the measure, chosen by the state attorney general, is: “Allows felony charges and increases sentences for certain drug and theft crimes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A lot of thought, politics, and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2020/08/california-proposition-descriptions-lawsuits-attorney-general/\">sometimes even litigation\u003c/a> goes into drafting the title and summary of a ballot measure. While proponents of a proposition want to entice voters with their description, it’s ultimately the state attorney general’s job to make sure the language is fair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even without mentioning homelessness, South said the ballot measure could still “pass on its own merits.” He, for one, would likely vote for it as a way to decrease crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Drugs and homelessness\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Tom Wolf, who has experienced both homelessness and addiction firsthand in San Francisco, said the proposed ballot measure has great potential to help people who were like him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An opioid addiction cost Wolf his job and his home and landed him on the streets of San Francisco’s Tenderloin neighborhood in 2018. He said he worked as a “holder” for nearby drug dealers, safeguarding their stash of narcotics in case they were busted by the police. Sometimes, he stole razor blades from a nearby Target and sold them for money to buy heroin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wolf said he was arrested on drug charges five times within three months and was released back to the street each time. The sixth time he was arrested, the judge let him sit in jail for three months, where he got sober. Wolf finally called his brother, who said he would bail him out if Wolf went to drug treatment. Wolf agreed. He said that if he had been given the choice between jail and treatment the last time he was picked up, he would have chosen treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In June, Wolf will have six years sober. He’s now an advocate for drug policy reform and works as director of West Coast initiatives for the Foundation for Drug Policy Solutions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That accountability piece was the key to me getting off the street,” he said, “getting sober, becoming willing to accept an opportunity to go to treatment and give recovery an honest try.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":2558,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":52},"modified":1716232537,"excerpt":"Backers of the California ballot measure emphasize housing issues in their campaign to roll back Proposition 47. But would the measure actually help people get housed?","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"Backers of the California ballot measure emphasize housing issues in their campaign to roll back Proposition 47. But would the measure actually help people get housed?","title":"Tough-on-Crime Ballot Measure Claims to Tackle Housing Crisis, Experts Doubtful | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Tough-on-Crime Ballot Measure Claims to Tackle Housing Crisis, Experts Doubtful","datePublished":"2024-05-20T12:00:59-07:00","dateModified":"2024-05-20T12:15:37-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"tough-on-crime-ballot-measure-claims-to-tackle-housing-crisis-experts-doubtful","status":"publish","sourceUrl":"https://calmatters.org/","nprByline":"Marisa Kendall and Yue Stella Yu, CalMatters","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","sticky":false,"source":"CalMatters","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","nprStoryId":"kqed-11986894","path":"/news/11986894/tough-on-crime-ballot-measure-claims-to-tackle-housing-crisis-experts-doubtful","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Homelessness gets top billing in a measure likely to make it onto your November ballot. Whether the measure has anything to do with homelessness is debatable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The initiative proponents are calling the “\u003ca href=\"https://casafecommunities.com/\">Homelessness, Drug Addiction, and Theft Reduction Act\u003c/a>” would increase penalties for some drug and theft crimes by rolling back\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>Proposition 47\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>— the criminal justice changes California voters passed a decade ago. It also would force some people arrested three or more times for drug crimes into treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But where does \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/category/housing/homelessness/\">homelessness\u003c/a> factor into this tough-on-crime measure? The initiative includes no money for housing, shelter or treatment beds — leading some experts to question how it would help get California’s more than 181,000 unhoused residents off the street in a state where recent research shows\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2023/06/california-homeless-growth-report/\"> loss of income is the leading cause\u003c/a> of homelessness. Nor does the measure allocate or create new funding sources to pay cities or counties to enforce it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Yolo County District Attorney Jeff Reisig, who helped author the proposed ballot measure, the philosophy is simple: The measure would slash the homeless population by pushing those struggling with drug addiction into treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The big part of this, which is the key to the program, is it’s going to be compelled,” Reisig said. “People are going to have to go through the program or accept the consequences.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, according to Elliott Currie, a professor of criminology, law and society at the University of California Irvine, the measure is based on a false assumption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The theory is that people are homeless because we’ve been too lenient with drug addiction,” Currie said. “I think I can safely say that I don’t see one shred of serious evidence that that’s what’s going on.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Did Proposition 47 increase homelessness in California?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The proposed ballot measure targets Proposition 47, which, when passed by voters in 2014, reduced certain theft and drug crimes from felonies to misdemeanors. In some circles, Proposition 47 is now being blamed for a \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2024/04/california-crime-oakland-san-francisco-businesses-residents/\">perceived increase in crime\u003c/a> — and a fierce debate is raging over \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/capitol/2024/04/california-crime-progressives-bills/\">whether and how to change it\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Backers of the measure, which is likely to qualify for the ballot after it recently \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-crime-ballot-initiative-signatures-theft-fentanyl-e4863b0eb0b8808ea8f5746c60780ba7\">submitted more than 900,000 signatures\u003c/a> (about 547,000 valid ones are required), also blame Proposition 47 for California’s dire homelessness crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the decade that Proposition 47 has been in effect, homelessness in California has grown by more than half — and backers of the proposed ballot measure say the two are “directly connected.” They argue by watering down the legal consequences for drug use, Proposition 47 removed the incentives for homeless Californians to participate in mental health and drug treatment, and as a result, fewer are. Because of that, they argue, more people are living on the streets.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","tag":"housing"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“One of the primary root causes of homelessness is serious addiction, which is debilitating and results in people not being able to function or even hold a job,” Reisig said in an interview with CalMatters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s true that \u003ca href=\"https://www.innovatingjustice.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/2020-03/report_sentencingreform_03262020.pdf\">participation in drug courts dropped\u003c/a> throughout the state in the wake of Proposition 47. In San Diego County, for example, more than 650 people went through drug court in the year before Proposition 47 passed. By 2021, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2022/07/california-drug-courts-prop-47/#:~:text=A%202020%20paper%20from%20the,67%25%20between%202014%20and%202018\">it was down to just 255\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As evidence Proposition 47 is tied to homelessness, backers of the measure point to states with stronger drug laws and smaller homeless populations. Illinois, for example, has a homeless rate about five times less than California’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there are a lot of other factors — especially housing costs — contributing to the state’s homelessness crisis. Fair market rent for a \u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/fmr/fmrs/FY2024_code/2024state_summary.odn\">two-bedroom in Chicago is just $1,714\u003c/a> — nearly half the going rate in San Francisco. The \u003ca href=\"https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/fmr/fmrs/FY2024_code/2024state_summary.odn\">San Francisco area rate\u003c/a> increased by 72% since Proposition 47 passed, hitting $3,359 this year, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some experts who study crime and homelessness, the ballot measure is baffling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not aware of any data that shows a connection between Prop. 47 and homelessness,” said Charis Kubrin, a professor of criminology at UC Irvine. “So it’s a bit of a puzzle to me why they’re together like that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Blaming the state’s spike in homelessness on Proposition 47 is “preposterous,” said Sharon Rapport, director of California state policy for the Corporation for Supportive Housing. “All of the changes that the (ballot measure) is proposing have nothing, nothing whatsoever, to do with homelessness.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The organization hasn’t even taken an official position on the measure because, Rapport said, it’s not related to homelessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2023/06/california-homeless-growth-report/\">The number one reason Californians end up homeless\u003c/a> is a loss of income — not drug use, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://homelessness.ucsf.edu/our-impact/studies/california-statewide-study-people-experiencing-homelessness\">UC San Francisco study\u003c/a> that provides the most comprehensive look yet at the state’s homelessness crisis. And in the six months before becoming homeless, the people surveyed were making a median income of just $960 a month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That doesn’t mean drug use has nothing to do with homelessness. Nearly a third of people surveyed reported using methamphetamines three times a week, while 11% used non-prescribed opioids. Other studies have had varying results: a 2022 Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research study, which cited research from multiple surveys across several states, showed that \u003ca href=\"https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/homelessness-california-causes-and-policy-considerations#footnote-1\">43% to 88%\u003c/a> of the homeless population struggled with drug abuse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Drug and alcohol overdoses \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/homelessness/2024/02/homeless-mortality-report/#:~:text=Nationwide%2C%20drug%20and%20alcohol%20overdoses,a%20488%25%20increase%20from%202011.\">are also the leading cause of death\u003c/a> for homeless people nationwide, according to a February study examining mortality rates among unhoused people between 2011 and 2020.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s clear not everyone on the streets has an addiction. Therefore, the proposed ballot measure would leave out a large chunk of the state’s homeless population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the measure helps even a third of California’s 181,000 unhoused residents — that’s a huge number, Reisig said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ll take that,” he said. “I’ll take that number to try and get those people well, and to get them reintegrated, and to keep them out of jail and prison, and keep them from dying on the street of overdose or murder.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This measure might help some people get sober, said Benjamin Henwood, director of the USC Center for Homelessness, Housing and Health Equity Research. But for many people, that won’t be enough to end their homelessness, he said. While being sober might make someone more likely to get a job, it won’t make housing any less expensive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The question is: Once treatment is up, where do they go?” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under this measure, the answer to that question will depend on each individual county and how much, if any, housing they make available for people coming out of treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How would the Homelessness, Drug Addiction, and Theft Reduction Act work?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If voters approve the proposed ballot measure, certain repeat drug offenses could be prosecuted as a “treatment-mandated felony.” That means the third time someone is arrested for a drug offense, they could be given a choice between jail or mandatory addiction and mental health treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure says people participating in mandatory treatment also would be offered “shelter, job training, and other services designed to break the cycle of addiction and homelessness.” But it doesn’t say how any of that would be paid for. It would be up to counties to decide whether to offer shelter and other services and how to fund them, Reisig said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11986380","hero":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/CEO-STORY-15-ZS-KQED-1-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“That will have to be deployed in each county to the extent they can do it,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But without guaranteeing those housing services, the measure could actually worsen homelessness, Currie said. There’s already a robust jail-to-homelessness pipeline in California: 43% of those surveyed in the UCSF study were in jail or prison or on probation or parole in the six months before they became homeless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Anybody who says you’ve got to solve the problem by putting more people behind bars, but you then don’t say anything about how you’re going to help them re-enter when they come out — I think that’s pretty bogus,” Currie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure also doesn’t specify how the mandatory drug and mental health treatment would be funded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Resources for treatment are already stretched thin in California. In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/Documents/Assessing-the-Continuum-of-Care-for-BH-Services-in-California.pdf\">2022 survey\u003c/a> by the state’s Department of Health Care Services, 70% of California counties reported “urgently” needing more residential addiction treatment, while nearly 40% didn’t have any residential facilities at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to providing no new funding, the proposed ballot measure could actually end up \u003cem>reducing \u003c/em>funds for the very programs it’s trying to bolster, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/fiscal-impact-estimate-report%2823-0017A1%29.pdf\">report from the independent Legislative Analyst’s Office\u003c/a>. That’s because Proposition 47 saved the state money in criminal justice costs by diverting people away from prison and jail. Those savings are earmarked for projects that provide mental health and substance use treatment (\u003ca href=\"https://www.bscc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/Prop-47-C1-final-evaluation-report.pdf\">nearly $104 million was awarded\u003c/a> between 2017 and 2020, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.bscc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/H-2-Proposition-47-Cohort-2-Final-Evaluation-Report-FINAL-1.pdf\">another $96 million\u003c/a> between 2019 and 2023).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By gutting Proposition 47 and funneling more people into the state’s jails and prisons, the Legislative Analyst estimates the proposed ballot measure would eat away at those savings and increase criminal justice costs by as much as tens of millions of dollars per year. That could mean less money for mental health services and addiction treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reisig dismissed that worry, saying, at least in Yolo County, where he is district attorney, Proposition 47 savings haven’t made much difference. “There’s literally nothing that I fear losing through this program,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is some new money available from other pots. In March, California voters approved a \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/homelessness/2024/01/california-homeless-prop-1/\">$6.4 billion bond\u003c/a> to pay for 6,800 beds in facilities treating mental illness and addiction and as many as 4,350 housing units for people who need those services. The state is \u003ca href=\"https://mentalhealth.ca.gov/\">set to start awarding that money\u003c/a> in the spring and summer of 2025, \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/05/14/california-moves-faster-to-transform-mental-health-system-for-all-with-urgent-focus-on-most-seriously-ill-homeless/\">Newsom said this month\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at the same time, to plug a yawning budget deficit, Newsom has \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2024/05/may-revise-2024-homeless-housing/\">proposed cutting funds\u003c/a> from the Behavioral Health Bridge Housing Program, which provides beds for people who need mental health and addiction services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currie said he is “skeptical” of the lack of funding mechanisms for treatment programs and other services to ensure homeless people stay off the streets post-treatment. That, he said, could burden counties that already struggle with insufficient funding for such services — one in five homeless people surveyed by UCSF researchers said they sought substance abuse treatment but failed to get it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You can’t just say, ‘OK, you counties. Since you are swimming in so much money after all … we are going to mandate drug treatment for some people on top of the existing number of clients,’” Currie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The politics of homelessness\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Some political strategists say the measure’s tie to homelessness represents the campaign’s attempt to capitalize on public concern about the problem. Homelessness is a top issue on California voters’ minds, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/ppic-statewide-survey-californians-and-their-government-february-2024/\">February 2024 statewide survey\u003c/a> by the Public Policy Institute of California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This notion somehow that it addresses homelessness is deceptive and downright farcical,” said Garry South, a longtime Democratic consultant who has worked on ballot measures for more than 20 years.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11986281","hero":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/ALAS_1_WEB-KQED-1020x675.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Homelessness is ultimately due to a lack of housing, he argued, and measures aiming to address the problem without providing housing are “disingenuous.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’ve heard the old saying ‘Putting lipstick on a pig,’” South said. “I’m not saying that this measure is a pig, but what I’m saying is it’s a standard procedure … to try to gussy it up with some reference or some provision that really strikes a responsive chord with voters when that’s not really what the initiative is about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the measure appears before voters in November, “homelessness” won’t be in the title they see on their ballots. The \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/Title%20and%20Summary%20%2823-0017A1%29.pdf\">official title\u003c/a> of the measure, chosen by the state attorney general, is: “Allows felony charges and increases sentences for certain drug and theft crimes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A lot of thought, politics, and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2020/08/california-proposition-descriptions-lawsuits-attorney-general/\">sometimes even litigation\u003c/a> goes into drafting the title and summary of a ballot measure. While proponents of a proposition want to entice voters with their description, it’s ultimately the state attorney general’s job to make sure the language is fair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even without mentioning homelessness, South said the ballot measure could still “pass on its own merits.” He, for one, would likely vote for it as a way to decrease crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Drugs and homelessness\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Tom Wolf, who has experienced both homelessness and addiction firsthand in San Francisco, said the proposed ballot measure has great potential to help people who were like him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An opioid addiction cost Wolf his job and his home and landed him on the streets of San Francisco’s Tenderloin neighborhood in 2018. He said he worked as a “holder” for nearby drug dealers, safeguarding their stash of narcotics in case they were busted by the police. Sometimes, he stole razor blades from a nearby Target and sold them for money to buy heroin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wolf said he was arrested on drug charges five times within three months and was released back to the street each time. The sixth time he was arrested, the judge let him sit in jail for three months, where he got sober. Wolf finally called his brother, who said he would bail him out if Wolf went to drug treatment. Wolf agreed. He said that if he had been given the choice between jail and treatment the last time he was picked up, he would have chosen treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In June, Wolf will have six years sober. He’s now an advocate for drug policy reform and works as director of West Coast initiatives for the Foundation for Drug Policy Solutions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That accountability piece was the key to me getting off the street,” he said, “getting sober, becoming willing to accept an opportunity to go to treatment and give recovery an honest try.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11986894/tough-on-crime-ballot-measure-claims-to-tackle-housing-crisis-experts-doubtful","authors":["byline_news_11986894"],"categories":["news_31795","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_18012","news_17626","news_17968","news_18502","news_31793"],"affiliates":["news_18481"],"featImg":"news_11986904","label":"source_news_11986894"},"news_11986506":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11986506","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11986506","score":null,"sort":[1715865019000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"news","term":72},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1715865019,"format":"standard","title":"Proposition 47 Saves State Millions, Funds Rehabilitation Programs","headTitle":"Proposition 47 Saves State Millions, Funds Rehabilitation Programs | KQED","content":"\u003cp>\u003cb>Here are the morning’s top stories on Thursday, May 16, 2024:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chances are if you’ve heard about Proposition 47 lately, it’s likely because someone was attacking the landmark criminal justice reform. Critics blame Prop 47 for shoplifting, drug use and homelessness in the state, and are trying to roll it back with a \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982070/campaign-to-roll-back-prop-47-criminal-justice-reforms-could-head-to-voters\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">new initiative this fall.\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> But the law has also resulted in hundreds of millions of dollars in state savings. That money is being used to fund rehabilitative programs.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sonoma State University’s president has been placed on indefinite leave by California State University Chancellor Mildred \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">García for insubordination. It comes after President Mike Lee reached \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11984845/pro-palestinian-protests-on-california-college-campuses-what-are-students-demanding\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a divestment agreement \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">this week with pro-Palestinian protesters on campus. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">California is looking for volunteers to test out a system that could change the way we pay for many of the state’s highways and other transportation needs. With the state shifting to\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11923540/california-poised-to-phase-out-sale-of-new-gas-powered-cars\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> an electric vehicle future\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, that means it has to rely less on the gas tax, which helps fund transportation projects.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The union representing 48,000 graduate student teaching assistants, researchers and other student workers on University of California campuses has voted to authorize a strike. United Auto Workers Local 4811 alleges its workers’ rights have been violated due to how several UC schools handled \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11985741/college-commencements-face-disruption-from-pro-palestinian-protests\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">pro-Palestinian demonstrations\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and encampments on campuses.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11986380/a-landmark-criminal-justice-reform-has-saved-california-millions-these-are-the-programs-its-funded\">\u003cb>A Landmark Criminal Justice Reform Has Saved California Millions. These Are the Programs It’s Funded\u003c/b>\u003c/a>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Proposition 47, the state’s landmark criminal justice reform, has faced sharp criticism recently. Many blame the measure for shoplifting, property crime, drug use and homelessness in the state. But \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a KQED investigation\u003c/span>\u003c/a> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">found no major increase in reported shoplifting or overall theft since Prop 47 passed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A group led by retailers and prosecutors is trying to roll it back with \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982070/campaign-to-roll-back-prop-47-criminal-justice-reforms-could-head-to-voters\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a new initiative \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">this fall. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But the law has also resulted in some $800 million in state savings, because fewer people are being sent to prison and jail for drug and low-level property crimes under the law. That money has been used to fund rehabilitative programs.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Sonoma State President Placed On Leave Over Divestment Agreement \u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sonoma State University President Mike Lee has been placed on administrative leave for insubordination. The decision by \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/news/Pages/chancellor-statement-sonoma-state-may-2024.aspx\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">California State University Chancellor Mildred \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">García\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> comes shortly after Lee reached a deal with pro-Palestinian student protesters.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As part of the deal, Lee committed the university to not pursuing formal collaborations with Israeli state academic or research institutions, including study abroad programs.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But on Wednesday, Lee \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sonoma.edu/updates/2024/message-president-0\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">sent a message to the campus\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, expressing deep regret for his decision. He said in reaching the agreement with one group of students, he marginalized other members of the student community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>California’s Shift To Electric Vehicle Future Could Impact Transportation Projects \u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">California has set\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11923540/california-poised-to-phase-out-sale-of-new-gas-powered-cars\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> an ambitious goal\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> of \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">requiring all new cars, trucks and SUVs to run on electricity or hydrogen by 2035. The hope is that this will lead to a dramatic cut in carbon emissions and an eventual end to gasoline-powered vehicles.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But that could also change how California pays for many of the state’s highways and transportation needs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">State transportation projects rely on fuel taxes. So now, the state is working on alternatives. One idea is a road charge, a fee drivers would pay for every mile they drive. \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://caroadcharge.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The program\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is looking to sign up 800 drivers to participate in a pilot program later this year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb style=\"font-size: 24px;\">Union Representing UC Student Workers Votes To Authorize Strike\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Members of United Auto Workers Local 4811, which represents 48,000 student workers and researchers across the University of California system, have authorized a strike against their employer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The union’s main complaint is how some UC campuses have called on police to break up \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11985741/college-commencements-face-disruption-from-pro-palestinian-protests\">protests and encampments\u003c/a> supporting Palestinian rights. Some members participated in these protests and they argued that universities violated workers’ right over workplace conditions during the protests.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The UC system says the strike is unlawful and any work stoppages would not be protected strike activity. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":700,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":16},"modified":1715887150,"excerpt":null,"headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"Here are the morning’s top stories on Thursday, May 16, 2024: Chances are if you’ve heard about Proposition 47 lately, it’s likely because someone was attacking the landmark criminal justice reform. Critics blame Prop 47 for shoplifting, drug use and homelessness in the state, and are trying to roll it back with a new initiative this fall. But the law has also resulted in hundreds of millions of dollars in state savings. That money is being used to fund rehabilitative programs. 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Critics blame Prop 47 for shoplifting, drug use and homelessness in the state, and are trying to roll it back with a \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982070/campaign-to-roll-back-prop-47-criminal-justice-reforms-could-head-to-voters\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">new initiative this fall.\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> But the law has also resulted in hundreds of millions of dollars in state savings. That money is being used to fund rehabilitative programs.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sonoma State University’s president has been placed on indefinite leave by California State University Chancellor Mildred \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">García for insubordination. It comes after President Mike Lee reached \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11984845/pro-palestinian-protests-on-california-college-campuses-what-are-students-demanding\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a divestment agreement \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">this week with pro-Palestinian protesters on campus. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">California is looking for volunteers to test out a system that could change the way we pay for many of the state’s highways and other transportation needs. With the state shifting to\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11923540/california-poised-to-phase-out-sale-of-new-gas-powered-cars\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> an electric vehicle future\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, that means it has to rely less on the gas tax, which helps fund transportation projects.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The union representing 48,000 graduate student teaching assistants, researchers and other student workers on University of California campuses has voted to authorize a strike. United Auto Workers Local 4811 alleges its workers’ rights have been violated due to how several UC schools handled \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11985741/college-commencements-face-disruption-from-pro-palestinian-protests\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">pro-Palestinian demonstrations\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and encampments on campuses.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11986380/a-landmark-criminal-justice-reform-has-saved-california-millions-these-are-the-programs-its-funded\">\u003cb>A Landmark Criminal Justice Reform Has Saved California Millions. These Are the Programs It’s Funded\u003c/b>\u003c/a>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Proposition 47, the state’s landmark criminal justice reform, has faced sharp criticism recently. Many blame the measure for shoplifting, property crime, drug use and homelessness in the state. But \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a KQED investigation\u003c/span>\u003c/a> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">found no major increase in reported shoplifting or overall theft since Prop 47 passed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A group led by retailers and prosecutors is trying to roll it back with \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982070/campaign-to-roll-back-prop-47-criminal-justice-reforms-could-head-to-voters\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a new initiative \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">this fall. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But the law has also resulted in some $800 million in state savings, because fewer people are being sent to prison and jail for drug and low-level property crimes under the law. That money has been used to fund rehabilitative programs.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Sonoma State President Placed On Leave Over Divestment Agreement \u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sonoma State University President Mike Lee has been placed on administrative leave for insubordination. The decision by \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/news/Pages/chancellor-statement-sonoma-state-may-2024.aspx\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">California State University Chancellor Mildred \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">García\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> comes shortly after Lee reached a deal with pro-Palestinian student protesters.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As part of the deal, Lee committed the university to not pursuing formal collaborations with Israeli state academic or research institutions, including study abroad programs.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But on Wednesday, Lee \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sonoma.edu/updates/2024/message-president-0\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">sent a message to the campus\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, expressing deep regret for his decision. He said in reaching the agreement with one group of students, he marginalized other members of the student community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>California’s Shift To Electric Vehicle Future Could Impact Transportation Projects \u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">California has set\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11923540/california-poised-to-phase-out-sale-of-new-gas-powered-cars\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> an ambitious goal\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> of \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">requiring all new cars, trucks and SUVs to run on electricity or hydrogen by 2035. The hope is that this will lead to a dramatic cut in carbon emissions and an eventual end to gasoline-powered vehicles.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But that could also change how California pays for many of the state’s highways and transportation needs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">State transportation projects rely on fuel taxes. So now, the state is working on alternatives. One idea is a road charge, a fee drivers would pay for every mile they drive. \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://caroadcharge.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The program\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is looking to sign up 800 drivers to participate in a pilot program later this year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb style=\"font-size: 24px;\">Union Representing UC Student Workers Votes To Authorize Strike\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Members of United Auto Workers Local 4811, which represents 48,000 student workers and researchers across the University of California system, have authorized a strike against their employer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The union’s main complaint is how some UC campuses have called on police to break up \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11985741/college-commencements-face-disruption-from-pro-palestinian-protests\">protests and encampments\u003c/a> supporting Palestinian rights. Some members participated in these protests and they argued that universities violated workers’ right over workplace conditions during the protests.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The UC system says the strike is unlawful and any work stoppages would not be protected strike activity. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11986506/proposition-47-saves-state-millions-funds-rehabilitation-programs","authors":["11739"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_34018"],"tags":["news_17626","news_34006","news_21348","news_19105","news_33333","news_18502","news_34058","news_2759","news_34059","news_4606"],"featImg":"news_11986323","label":"news_72"},"news_11982393":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11982393","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11982393","score":null,"sort":[1712703639000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-assembly-bills-seek-to-curb-retail-theft-maintain-proposition-47","title":"California Assembly Bills Seek to Curb Retail Theft, Maintain Proposition 47","publishDate":1712703639,"format":"standard","headTitle":"California Assembly Bills Seek to Curb Retail Theft, Maintain Proposition 47 | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>A handful of proposals to reduce retail theft in California cleared an initial hurdle at the state capitol on Tuesday, hours after Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas and a bipartisan group of lawmakers unveiled the legislation they touted as a sensible approach to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">curb shoplifting and commercial robberies in the state\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Assembly is moving forward a comprehensive, balanced, and bipartisan legislative package that seeks to strengthen public safety, protect shoppers and business owners across California and assure that we deliver real, visible, quality of life improvements to Californians,” Rivas (D-Salinas) said at a press conference in Sacramento.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas\"]‘For us it’s understanding the root causes of this problem, which is complex, and for us, each one of these bills gets after those layers of complexity.’[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bills, which passed the Assembly Public Safety committee, include provisions to toughen penalties and make it easier for law enforcement to arrest and charge theft suspects. Taken together, they represent a bold and controversial legislative vision: that retail theft can be reduced without changing California’s landmark criminal justice reform act, Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11980483,news_11979533,news_11975692\" label=\"Related Stories\"]That ballot measure, approved by voters in 2014, has been the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975753/critics-say-prop-47-has-fueled-a-spike-in-property-crime-the-data-do-not-show-that\">target of critics who say it’s led to a spike in property crime\u003c/a> from luxury mall outlets to neighborhood pharmacies, though state data does not fully support this claim. Proposition 47 downgraded charges for low-level drug possession and property theft from felonies to misdemeanors. As a result, the state has saved hundreds of millions of dollars in prison and jail costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">KQED analysis of the measure and retail theft found\u003c/a> that the arrest rate for shoplifting crimes has declined in the last decade. Many of the most high-profile and brazen robberies, meanwhile, are driven by organized crime rings and generally fall outside the purview of Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s no turning back the clock on the criminal justice reforms that have been enacted,” Rivas said on Tuesday. “For us, it’s understanding the root causes of this problem, which is complex, and for us, each one of these bills gets after those layers of complexity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2943\">Assembly Bill 2943\u003c/a>, written by Rivas and Assemblymember Rick Chavez Zbur (D-Hollywood), would allow police officers to make an arrest for shoplifting without directly witnessing the alleged crime. It would also make it easier for law enforcement to aggregate multiple thefts into a felony grand theft charge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This bill says to organized crime rings, ‘We mean business, and we’re going to give law enforcement the tools they need to shut you down,’” Chavez Zbur said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rivas said the legislation was crafted with Gov. Gavin Newsom, who unveiled similar proposals earlier this year to curtail theft without touching Proposition 47, which would require approval from the voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers may not have the last word on the fate of Proposition 47. Leaders of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982070/campaign-to-roll-back-prop-47-criminal-justice-reforms-could-head-to-voters\">campaign to roll back parts of the measure are expressing confidence\u003c/a> that they will soon be able to submit the necessary signatures to put the issue on the ballot in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure, backed by large retailers and prosecutors, would create new felonies for repeated theft and toughen penalties for selling and possessing drugs. Supporters, which include the Democratic mayors of San Diego, San José and San Francisco, say the measure is needed to restore accountability and push drug users into treatment. Critics say its provisions will take the state back to over-criminalizing low-level crimes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“While the proposed legislative bills are a step in the right direction, much more needs to be done to effectively hold individuals accountable and improve the safety of all Californians,” the campaign to repeal parts of Proposition 47 said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rivas said Tuesday that he would be “monitoring the progress of that initiative,” which proponents could remove from the ballot even after qualifying if they could negotiate a favorable deal with the legislature before July.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bills unveiled Tuesday, however, further closed the door on the legislature proactively going to the voters to alter Proposition 47 this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That result was far from a foregone conclusion just three months ago when the legislature began its session. Hearings held by a select committee on retail theft that Rivas had created focused extensively on the effects of the ballot measure. Multiple moderate Democrats wrote bills to reverse pieces of the act. And Assemblymember Kevin McCarty (D-Sacramento), the chair of the Assembly’s Public Safety committee, said all potential solutions to retail theft were on the table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, after Newsom unveiled his proposals, Senate President Pro Tem Mike McGuire (D-North Coast) and Rivas soon \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11979533/i-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-ballot-assembly-speaker-rivas-opposes-changes-to-proposition-47\">followed suit and \u003c/a>opposed changing Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bills approved in the Public Safety committee on Tuesday included proposals to: expand the state’s existing retail theft law to \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1972\">cover merchandise stolen from cargo\u003c/a>; allow a judge to place a \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB3209\">restraining order on someone guilty of theft\u003c/a> to prohibit them from returning to the retail establishment they robbed; and allow counties to enact a program allowing retailers to \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1794\">bring details of an alleged shoplifting directly to prosecutors\u003c/a> without involving police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some advocates for criminal justice reforms voiced opposition to various provisions in the bill package — such as a bill to \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1960\">provide a sentence enhancement of up to five years\u003c/a> when the property loss is more than $50,000 — but Tinisch Hollins, executive director of Californians for Safety and Justice, a group opposing the Proposition 47 rollback, applauded the overall direction of the Assembly bills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Rather than simply seeking to score quick and cheap political points, the package reflects a commitment to pursuing solutions that would reduce the incidents of theft in the first place while also underscoring the critical need for law enforcement to effectively solve crime when it occurs,” Hollins said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, the most punitive measures targeting retail theft have largely been derailed. A bill pursuing tougher consequences for Californians convicted of shoplifting was gutted before the committee hearing. \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1772\">AB 1772\u003c/a>, authored by Assemblymember James Ramos (D-Highland) and supported by more than a half-dozen Democrats, initially asked the voters to add jail time for repeat thefts. It now seeks data collection on thefts during the COVID-19 pandemic. Ramos’ office did not respond to questions about why the change was made.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas vowed “balanced and bipartisan” bills will curb shoplifting in the state. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721130930,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":1097},"headData":{"title":"California Assembly Bills Seek to Curb Retail Theft, Maintain Proposition 47 | KQED","description":"Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas vowed “balanced and bipartisan” bills will curb shoplifting in the state. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California Assembly Bills Seek to Curb Retail Theft, Maintain Proposition 47","datePublished":"2024-04-09T16:00:39-07:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T04:55:30-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11982393/california-assembly-bills-seek-to-curb-retail-theft-maintain-proposition-47","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A handful of proposals to reduce retail theft in California cleared an initial hurdle at the state capitol on Tuesday, hours after Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas and a bipartisan group of lawmakers unveiled the legislation they touted as a sensible approach to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">curb shoplifting and commercial robberies in the state\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Assembly is moving forward a comprehensive, balanced, and bipartisan legislative package that seeks to strengthen public safety, protect shoppers and business owners across California and assure that we deliver real, visible, quality of life improvements to Californians,” Rivas (D-Salinas) said at a press conference in Sacramento.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘For us it’s understanding the root causes of this problem, which is complex, and for us, each one of these bills gets after those layers of complexity.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bills, which passed the Assembly Public Safety committee, include provisions to toughen penalties and make it easier for law enforcement to arrest and charge theft suspects. Taken together, they represent a bold and controversial legislative vision: that retail theft can be reduced without changing California’s landmark criminal justice reform act, Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11980483,news_11979533,news_11975692","label":"Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>That ballot measure, approved by voters in 2014, has been the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975753/critics-say-prop-47-has-fueled-a-spike-in-property-crime-the-data-do-not-show-that\">target of critics who say it’s led to a spike in property crime\u003c/a> from luxury mall outlets to neighborhood pharmacies, though state data does not fully support this claim. Proposition 47 downgraded charges for low-level drug possession and property theft from felonies to misdemeanors. As a result, the state has saved hundreds of millions of dollars in prison and jail costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">KQED analysis of the measure and retail theft found\u003c/a> that the arrest rate for shoplifting crimes has declined in the last decade. Many of the most high-profile and brazen robberies, meanwhile, are driven by organized crime rings and generally fall outside the purview of Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s no turning back the clock on the criminal justice reforms that have been enacted,” Rivas said on Tuesday. “For us, it’s understanding the root causes of this problem, which is complex, and for us, each one of these bills gets after those layers of complexity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2943\">Assembly Bill 2943\u003c/a>, written by Rivas and Assemblymember Rick Chavez Zbur (D-Hollywood), would allow police officers to make an arrest for shoplifting without directly witnessing the alleged crime. It would also make it easier for law enforcement to aggregate multiple thefts into a felony grand theft charge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This bill says to organized crime rings, ‘We mean business, and we’re going to give law enforcement the tools they need to shut you down,’” Chavez Zbur said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rivas said the legislation was crafted with Gov. Gavin Newsom, who unveiled similar proposals earlier this year to curtail theft without touching Proposition 47, which would require approval from the voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers may not have the last word on the fate of Proposition 47. Leaders of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982070/campaign-to-roll-back-prop-47-criminal-justice-reforms-could-head-to-voters\">campaign to roll back parts of the measure are expressing confidence\u003c/a> that they will soon be able to submit the necessary signatures to put the issue on the ballot in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure, backed by large retailers and prosecutors, would create new felonies for repeated theft and toughen penalties for selling and possessing drugs. Supporters, which include the Democratic mayors of San Diego, San José and San Francisco, say the measure is needed to restore accountability and push drug users into treatment. Critics say its provisions will take the state back to over-criminalizing low-level crimes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“While the proposed legislative bills are a step in the right direction, much more needs to be done to effectively hold individuals accountable and improve the safety of all Californians,” the campaign to repeal parts of Proposition 47 said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rivas said Tuesday that he would be “monitoring the progress of that initiative,” which proponents could remove from the ballot even after qualifying if they could negotiate a favorable deal with the legislature before July.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bills unveiled Tuesday, however, further closed the door on the legislature proactively going to the voters to alter Proposition 47 this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That result was far from a foregone conclusion just three months ago when the legislature began its session. Hearings held by a select committee on retail theft that Rivas had created focused extensively on the effects of the ballot measure. Multiple moderate Democrats wrote bills to reverse pieces of the act. And Assemblymember Kevin McCarty (D-Sacramento), the chair of the Assembly’s Public Safety committee, said all potential solutions to retail theft were on the table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, after Newsom unveiled his proposals, Senate President Pro Tem Mike McGuire (D-North Coast) and Rivas soon \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11979533/i-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-ballot-assembly-speaker-rivas-opposes-changes-to-proposition-47\">followed suit and \u003c/a>opposed changing Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bills approved in the Public Safety committee on Tuesday included proposals to: expand the state’s existing retail theft law to \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1972\">cover merchandise stolen from cargo\u003c/a>; allow a judge to place a \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB3209\">restraining order on someone guilty of theft\u003c/a> to prohibit them from returning to the retail establishment they robbed; and allow counties to enact a program allowing retailers to \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1794\">bring details of an alleged shoplifting directly to prosecutors\u003c/a> without involving police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some advocates for criminal justice reforms voiced opposition to various provisions in the bill package — such as a bill to \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1960\">provide a sentence enhancement of up to five years\u003c/a> when the property loss is more than $50,000 — but Tinisch Hollins, executive director of Californians for Safety and Justice, a group opposing the Proposition 47 rollback, applauded the overall direction of the Assembly bills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Rather than simply seeking to score quick and cheap political points, the package reflects a commitment to pursuing solutions that would reduce the incidents of theft in the first place while also underscoring the critical need for law enforcement to effectively solve crime when it occurs,” Hollins said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, the most punitive measures targeting retail theft have largely been derailed. A bill pursuing tougher consequences for Californians convicted of shoplifting was gutted before the committee hearing. \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1772\">AB 1772\u003c/a>, authored by Assemblymember James Ramos (D-Highland) and supported by more than a half-dozen Democrats, initially asked the voters to add jail time for repeat thefts. It now seeks data collection on thefts during the COVID-19 pandemic. Ramos’ office did not respond to questions about why the change was made.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11982393/california-assembly-bills-seek-to-curb-retail-theft-maintain-proposition-47","authors":["227"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_19113","news_17725","news_17968","news_33814","news_18502"],"featImg":"news_11982425","label":"news"},"news_11982070":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11982070","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11982070","score":null,"sort":[1712574001000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"campaign-to-roll-back-prop-47-criminal-justice-reforms-could-head-to-voters","title":"Campaign to Roll Back Proposition 47 Criminal Justice Reforms Could Head to Voters","publishDate":1712574001,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Campaign to Roll Back Proposition 47 Criminal Justice Reforms Could Head to Voters | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>A campaign by prosecutors and retailers to roll back parts of Proposition 47, California’s landmark 2014 criminal justice reform, could soon move forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Backers say they believe they have enough signatures to qualify for the November ballot. The deadline for the group to submit the 546,651 signatures needed is April 23.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, lawmakers in Sacramento are pushing forward on legislation that Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic leaders say \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11979533/i-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-ballot-assembly-speaker-rivas-opposes-changes-to-proposition-47\">would solve the problems critics see with Proposition 47\u003c/a>, without a need to go back to voters. On Tuesday, Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas plans to introduce what he’s calling a “comprehensive, bipartisan legislative package,” to attack retail theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proposition 47 reduced charges for personal drug possession and for theft of anything worth less than $950 from a felony to a misdemeanor. It also required that the money the state saved from keeping people out of prison and jail, about $800 million so far, be invested in rehabilitation programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But critics blame Proposition 47 for a host of issues, from an increase in drug use and homelessness to what they say is a spike in shoplifting and retail theft, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975661/data-shows-no-huge-spike-in-shoplifting-since-passage-of-prop-47\">even though state data doesn’t fully support that claim\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">A KQED investigation\u003c/a> found no major increase in reported shoplifting or overall theft since the measure passed, though the crimes appear to be underreported — but the investigation did find a large drop in arrest rates for theft over the past decade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11975692 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/GettyImages-1363480595-1020x680.jpg']The proposed measure wouldn’t entirely repeal Proposition 47, but it would gut some of its key provisions, which were aimed at keeping lower level criminals and drug users out of jail and prison. The proposal would make it easier to charge repeat offenders with a felony and increase penalties for organized retail theft rings. It would also stiffen penalties for selling fentanyl and other “hard drugs” such as heroin, methamphetamines and cocaine. And it would mandate as much as a year in jail for possessing those same drugs — though the ballot measure also gives judges the option of diverting those accused of possession into drug treatment programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Backers have raised more than $7 million, mostly from large retailers like Walmart, which has donated $2.5 million, and Home Depot, which cut a $1 million check last month. And many prosecutors in California, who have long been critical of Proposition 47, helped write and are backing the ballot measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Campaign spokesperson Becky Warren said the measure has received “overwhelming” support from people across the political spectrum as they gather signatures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This bipartisan ballot measure is a commonsense approach that prioritizes improving community safety while balancing accountability for repeat retail theft offenders and drug traffickers, with meaningful treatment and rehabilitation for serious addicts who need support,” she said in a written statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But supporters of the original criminal justice reforms in Proposition 47 are pushing back. They’ve joined with progressive lawmakers to roll out \u003ca href=\"https://ellabakercenter.org/smartsolutionsca/\">a package of legislation\u003c/a> they say would help curb retail theft and address the fentanyl crisis, without altering Proposition 47. Among the proposals: legislation aimed at making it harder for people to sell stolen goods online, bills to increase diversion programs for people accused of theft, and measures to increase drug treatment opportunities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tinisch Hollins is executive director of Californians for Safety and Justice, the group that sponsored Proposition 47. She said the provisions in the potential November ballot measure have already been proven to fail — and that’s why voters embraced reform in the first place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve tried tough on crime, right? … We have decades of proof that that doesn’t work,” she said. “The issue of organized retail theft is much too nuanced to just throw a blanket repeal for a proposition — not to mention the cost to the state and our communities if we go back to just criminalizing everyone and putting them in jail and prison for low-level offenses. It’s just the wrong approach.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hollins said her group broadly supports efforts in the Legislature to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/newsletter/retail-theft-california-crime-bill/\">tackle organized retail theft\u003c/a> and she added that laws to hold fentanyl dealers and thieves accountable already exist. She said it’s up to law enforcement to use the tools they already have, noting there’s been a huge decrease in arrest rates for theft over the past decade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/ballot/2023/230474.pdf\">An assessment by the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst Office (PDF)\u003c/a> found that the proposed ballot measure would result in California spending hundreds of millions of dollars more each year to incarcerate people in prison. The report said it would also cost counties tens of millions of dollars annually in jail, probation and court spending. Hollins questioned, with increased costs and the existing shortage of drug treatment programs, whether there would even be treatment available for people eligible for diversion under the proposed measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The ballot initiative doesn’t increase funding. In fact, if [Proposition] 47 is repealed, then we have hundreds of millions of dollars going back to the system instead of for these types of intervention,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proposition 47 supporters also recently filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging that Congressman Kevin Kiley, an outspoken critic of Proposition 47, has illegally coordinated with the campaign committee collecting signatures — an allegation both Kiley and representatives for the ballot measure deny.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The complaint was filed by attorney Ann Ravel, a former FEC chair, who said she got involved at the request of Californians for Safety and Justice, but that she is not being paid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24534243/21march2024kileycomplaint.pdf\">In her complaint (PDF)\u003c/a>, Ravel accuses Kiley of establishing and controlling the campaign committee that is backing the effort to overhaul Proposition 47, and alleges that control is illegal because the six- and seven-figure donations collected by that committee exceed the federal limits Kiley’s congressional campaign is subject to. \u003ca href=\"https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/candidate-taking-receipts/contribution-limits/\">Under federal law\u003c/a>, a candidate may only solicit up to $3,300 per election from an individual donor and up to $5,000 a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Tinisch Hollins, executive director, Californians for Safety and Justice\"]‘We’ve tried tough on crime, right? … We have decades of proof that that doesn’t work.’[/pullquote]“He has raised an enormous amount of money that is a violation of campaign finance law,” Ravel said. “We are just asking them to investigate the violations.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravel \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24534244/ann-ravel-letter.pdf\">cites (PDF)\u003c/a> as proof Kiley’s long standing criticism of Proposition 47 and his involvement with the campaign, including email blasts and a website linked to his congressional campaign that asks people to sign the ballot measure petition. In one email, Ravel states, “he solicits funds for the ballot measure, to be made by check to ‘Kevin Kiley for Congress’ indicating that he has solicited earmarked contributions for the measure, using his committee as a conduit.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A spokesperson for Kiley called the allegations “frivolous and full of falsehoods,” adding that Kiley has “no official or unofficial position or control over the ballot measure committee,” and found out about its existence months after it was created.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Ms. Ravel has a history of filing these types of political complaints that go nowhere,” Kiley’s political consultant Dave Gilliard said in an email. “[Kiley] has not solicited donations to the ballot measure committee from anyone and has not spoken about the initiative with any of the donors named in the complaint.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gilliard added that Kiley asked for donations to his congressional campaign to defray the cost of mailing petitions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are reporting the amounts spent on such mailings as an in-kind contribution to the committee, as required by law. The total value of that in-kind will probably end up being about 1% of the money raised by the committee,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Proposition 47 supporters and Democratic lawmakers are countering with a package of legislation aimed at addressing retail theft and the fentanyl crisis.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721130934,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":1358},"headData":{"title":"Campaign to Roll Back Proposition 47 Criminal Justice Reforms Could Head to Voters | KQED","description":"Proposition 47 supporters and Democratic lawmakers are countering with a package of legislation aimed at addressing retail theft and the fentanyl crisis.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Campaign to Roll Back Proposition 47 Criminal Justice Reforms Could Head to Voters","datePublished":"2024-04-08T04:00:01-07:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T04:55:34-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-4[…]f-aaef00f5a073/27958eb5-a158-40ef-8b8f-b14c010508ae/audio.mp3","sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11982070/campaign-to-roll-back-prop-47-criminal-justice-reforms-could-head-to-voters","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A campaign by prosecutors and retailers to roll back parts of Proposition 47, California’s landmark 2014 criminal justice reform, could soon move forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Backers say they believe they have enough signatures to qualify for the November ballot. The deadline for the group to submit the 546,651 signatures needed is April 23.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, lawmakers in Sacramento are pushing forward on legislation that Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic leaders say \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11979533/i-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-ballot-assembly-speaker-rivas-opposes-changes-to-proposition-47\">would solve the problems critics see with Proposition 47\u003c/a>, without a need to go back to voters. On Tuesday, Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas plans to introduce what he’s calling a “comprehensive, bipartisan legislative package,” to attack retail theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proposition 47 reduced charges for personal drug possession and for theft of anything worth less than $950 from a felony to a misdemeanor. It also required that the money the state saved from keeping people out of prison and jail, about $800 million so far, be invested in rehabilitation programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But critics blame Proposition 47 for a host of issues, from an increase in drug use and homelessness to what they say is a spike in shoplifting and retail theft, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975661/data-shows-no-huge-spike-in-shoplifting-since-passage-of-prop-47\">even though state data doesn’t fully support that claim\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">A KQED investigation\u003c/a> found no major increase in reported shoplifting or overall theft since the measure passed, though the crimes appear to be underreported — but the investigation did find a large drop in arrest rates for theft over the past decade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11975692","hero":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/GettyImages-1363480595-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The proposed measure wouldn’t entirely repeal Proposition 47, but it would gut some of its key provisions, which were aimed at keeping lower level criminals and drug users out of jail and prison. The proposal would make it easier to charge repeat offenders with a felony and increase penalties for organized retail theft rings. It would also stiffen penalties for selling fentanyl and other “hard drugs” such as heroin, methamphetamines and cocaine. And it would mandate as much as a year in jail for possessing those same drugs — though the ballot measure also gives judges the option of diverting those accused of possession into drug treatment programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Backers have raised more than $7 million, mostly from large retailers like Walmart, which has donated $2.5 million, and Home Depot, which cut a $1 million check last month. And many prosecutors in California, who have long been critical of Proposition 47, helped write and are backing the ballot measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Campaign spokesperson Becky Warren said the measure has received “overwhelming” support from people across the political spectrum as they gather signatures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This bipartisan ballot measure is a commonsense approach that prioritizes improving community safety while balancing accountability for repeat retail theft offenders and drug traffickers, with meaningful treatment and rehabilitation for serious addicts who need support,” she said in a written statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But supporters of the original criminal justice reforms in Proposition 47 are pushing back. They’ve joined with progressive lawmakers to roll out \u003ca href=\"https://ellabakercenter.org/smartsolutionsca/\">a package of legislation\u003c/a> they say would help curb retail theft and address the fentanyl crisis, without altering Proposition 47. Among the proposals: legislation aimed at making it harder for people to sell stolen goods online, bills to increase diversion programs for people accused of theft, and measures to increase drug treatment opportunities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tinisch Hollins is executive director of Californians for Safety and Justice, the group that sponsored Proposition 47. She said the provisions in the potential November ballot measure have already been proven to fail — and that’s why voters embraced reform in the first place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve tried tough on crime, right? … We have decades of proof that that doesn’t work,” she said. “The issue of organized retail theft is much too nuanced to just throw a blanket repeal for a proposition — not to mention the cost to the state and our communities if we go back to just criminalizing everyone and putting them in jail and prison for low-level offenses. It’s just the wrong approach.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hollins said her group broadly supports efforts in the Legislature to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/newsletter/retail-theft-california-crime-bill/\">tackle organized retail theft\u003c/a> and she added that laws to hold fentanyl dealers and thieves accountable already exist. She said it’s up to law enforcement to use the tools they already have, noting there’s been a huge decrease in arrest rates for theft over the past decade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/ballot/2023/230474.pdf\">An assessment by the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst Office (PDF)\u003c/a> found that the proposed ballot measure would result in California spending hundreds of millions of dollars more each year to incarcerate people in prison. The report said it would also cost counties tens of millions of dollars annually in jail, probation and court spending. Hollins questioned, with increased costs and the existing shortage of drug treatment programs, whether there would even be treatment available for people eligible for diversion under the proposed measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The ballot initiative doesn’t increase funding. In fact, if [Proposition] 47 is repealed, then we have hundreds of millions of dollars going back to the system instead of for these types of intervention,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proposition 47 supporters also recently filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission alleging that Congressman Kevin Kiley, an outspoken critic of Proposition 47, has illegally coordinated with the campaign committee collecting signatures — an allegation both Kiley and representatives for the ballot measure deny.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The complaint was filed by attorney Ann Ravel, a former FEC chair, who said she got involved at the request of Californians for Safety and Justice, but that she is not being paid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24534243/21march2024kileycomplaint.pdf\">In her complaint (PDF)\u003c/a>, Ravel accuses Kiley of establishing and controlling the campaign committee that is backing the effort to overhaul Proposition 47, and alleges that control is illegal because the six- and seven-figure donations collected by that committee exceed the federal limits Kiley’s congressional campaign is subject to. \u003ca href=\"https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/candidate-taking-receipts/contribution-limits/\">Under federal law\u003c/a>, a candidate may only solicit up to $3,300 per election from an individual donor and up to $5,000 a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘We’ve tried tough on crime, right? … We have decades of proof that that doesn’t work.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Tinisch Hollins, executive director, Californians for Safety and Justice","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“He has raised an enormous amount of money that is a violation of campaign finance law,” Ravel said. “We are just asking them to investigate the violations.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravel \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24534244/ann-ravel-letter.pdf\">cites (PDF)\u003c/a> as proof Kiley’s long standing criticism of Proposition 47 and his involvement with the campaign, including email blasts and a website linked to his congressional campaign that asks people to sign the ballot measure petition. In one email, Ravel states, “he solicits funds for the ballot measure, to be made by check to ‘Kevin Kiley for Congress’ indicating that he has solicited earmarked contributions for the measure, using his committee as a conduit.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A spokesperson for Kiley called the allegations “frivolous and full of falsehoods,” adding that Kiley has “no official or unofficial position or control over the ballot measure committee,” and found out about its existence months after it was created.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Ms. Ravel has a history of filing these types of political complaints that go nowhere,” Kiley’s political consultant Dave Gilliard said in an email. “[Kiley] has not solicited donations to the ballot measure committee from anyone and has not spoken about the initiative with any of the donors named in the complaint.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gilliard added that Kiley asked for donations to his congressional campaign to defray the cost of mailing petitions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are reporting the amounts spent on such mailings as an in-kind contribution to the committee, as required by law. The total value of that in-kind will probably end up being about 1% of the money raised by the committee,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11982070/campaign-to-roll-back-prop-47-criminal-justice-reforms-could-head-to-voters","authors":["3239"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_17725","news_27626","news_27947","news_17968","news_18502"],"featImg":"news_11961454","label":"news"},"news_11980483":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11980483","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11980483","score":null,"sort":[1711141219000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-lawmakers-look-for-balance-amid-solutions-to-stop-retail-theft","title":"California Lawmakers Look for Balance Amid Solutions to Stop Retail Theft","publishDate":1711141219,"format":"standard","headTitle":"California Lawmakers Look for Balance Amid Solutions to Stop Retail Theft | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Facing mounting pressure to crack down on a retail theft crisis, California lawmakers are split on how best to tackle the problem that some say has caused major store closures and products like deodorants to be locked behind plexiglass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Top Democratic leaders have already ruled out reforming progressive policies like Proposition 47, a ballot measure approved by 60% of state voters in 2014 that reduced certain theft and drug possession offenses from felonies to misdemeanors to address overcrowding jails. But a growing number of law enforcement officials, along with Republican and moderate Democratic lawmakers, said California needs to consider all options, including rolling back the measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While shoplifting has been a growing problem, large-scale thefts, in which groups of individuals brazenly rush into stores and take goods in plain sight, have become a crisis in California and elsewhere in recent years. California Retailers Association said it’s challenging to quantify the issue in California because many stores don’t share their data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Urban areas and big cities like the Bay Area and Los Angeles saw a steady increase in shoplifting between 2021 and 2022, according to a study of the latest crime data by The Public Policy Institute of California. Across the state, shoplifting rates rose during the same period but were still lower than the pre-pandemic levels in 2019. The study said commercial burglaries and robberies have become more prevalent in urban counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom, a champion of Proposition 47 who has repeatedly \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/business-california-theft-8dec92007049f1fa41f9e280882bcef6\">argued California already has tools\u003c/a> to go after criminals sufficiently, rejected calls to reform the measure in January. He instead urged lawmakers to bolster existing laws and go after motor vehicle thefts and resellers of stolen merchandise. California is also \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-smash-grab-robberies-grants-police-0172b4e64ed9d748a6fced4316f4121d\">spending $267 million\u003c/a> to help dozens of local law enforcement agencies increase patrols, buy surveillance equipment and conduct other activities to crack down on retail theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Gov. Gavin Newsom\"]‘Not to say everything about Prop. 47 is hunky-dory and perfect. We want to help fix some of the ambiguities there, but we could do it without reforming or going back to the voters.’[/pullquote]“Not to say everything about Prop. 47 is hunky-dory and perfect,” Newsom said in January. “We want to help fix some of the ambiguities there, but we could do it without reforming or going back to the voters.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California voters approved Proposition 47 in 2014 to help California comply with a 2011 California Supreme Court order, which upheld that California’s overcrowded prisons violated incarcerated individuals’ Eighth Amendment rights against cruel and unusual punishment. The proposition modified but did not eliminate sentencing for many drug and nonviolent property crimes, including thefts under $950.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Funding saved from having fewer people in jails and prisons, totaling $113 million this fiscal year, has gone to local programs to fight recidivism with some successes, state officials and advocates said. But the proposition has made it harder to prosecute shoplifters and enabled brazen crime rings, law enforcement officials said. An effort to reform the measure failed in 2020.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11975692,news_11979533,news_10743111\"]Following Newsom’s directions, Democratic leaders in both chambers at the Capitol also have shut down calls to repeal the measure. Last month, the state’s new Senate President Pro Tempore Mike McGuire, with bipartisan support, introduced a package of legislation that would target auto thefts and large-scale resell schemes and expand diversion programs such as drug courts and treatment services. Under the proposal, online marketplaces would also be required to crack down on users reselling stolen goods on their platforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I do not believe that this state needs to touch Prop. 47 to be able to help make our communities safer, full stop,” McGuire said during a news conference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11979533/i-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-ballot-assembly-speaker-rivas-opposes-changes-to-proposition-47\">who has said he also doesn’t want to repeal Proposition 47\u003c/a>, co-authored similar legislation aimed at repeat thieves and online resellers. It would allow law enforcement to “stack” the value of goods stolen from different victims to impose harsher penalties and arrest people for shoplifting using video footage or witness statements. The measure also would mandate online sellers to maintain records proving the merchandise wasn’t stolen and require some retail businesses to report stolen goods data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But some Democratic lawmakers said those efforts won’t be enough to make a difference. Assemblymember James Ramos, who authored bipartisan legislation to increase penalties for repeat shoplifters, said many lawmakers want to see “the pendulum swing back to the middle.” The bill would require voters’ approval.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Assemblymember James Ramos\"]‘Prop. 47 needs to have some type of resetting. We have the opportunity now to start that dialogue.’[/pullquote]“Prop. 47 needs to have some type of resetting,” Ramos said. “We have the opportunity now to start that dialogue.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Assemblymember Kevin McCarty, chair of the Assembly Public Safety Committee, said he also is exploring options, including putting something on the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Everything is on the table,” McCarty said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, major retail groups and the California District Attorney Association, along with the Democratic mayors of San Francisco and San José, have thrown their support behind a ballot initiative to stiffen penalties for repeat thieves, among other things. The groups are still collecting signatures to qualify for the November ballot before the April deadline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"California lawmakers are split on how to best address the proliferation of retail theft cases in the state, which has led to major store closures.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721130939,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":929},"headData":{"title":"California Lawmakers Look for Balance Amid Solutions to Stop Retail Theft | KQED","description":"California lawmakers are split on how to best address the proliferation of retail theft cases in the state, which has led to major store closures.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California Lawmakers Look for Balance Amid Solutions to Stop Retail Theft","datePublished":"2024-03-22T14:00:19-07:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T04:55:39-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"Trân Nguyễn, Associated Press","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11980483/california-lawmakers-look-for-balance-amid-solutions-to-stop-retail-theft","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Facing mounting pressure to crack down on a retail theft crisis, California lawmakers are split on how best to tackle the problem that some say has caused major store closures and products like deodorants to be locked behind plexiglass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Top Democratic leaders have already ruled out reforming progressive policies like Proposition 47, a ballot measure approved by 60% of state voters in 2014 that reduced certain theft and drug possession offenses from felonies to misdemeanors to address overcrowding jails. But a growing number of law enforcement officials, along with Republican and moderate Democratic lawmakers, said California needs to consider all options, including rolling back the measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While shoplifting has been a growing problem, large-scale thefts, in which groups of individuals brazenly rush into stores and take goods in plain sight, have become a crisis in California and elsewhere in recent years. California Retailers Association said it’s challenging to quantify the issue in California because many stores don’t share their data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Urban areas and big cities like the Bay Area and Los Angeles saw a steady increase in shoplifting between 2021 and 2022, according to a study of the latest crime data by The Public Policy Institute of California. Across the state, shoplifting rates rose during the same period but were still lower than the pre-pandemic levels in 2019. The study said commercial burglaries and robberies have become more prevalent in urban counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom, a champion of Proposition 47 who has repeatedly \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/business-california-theft-8dec92007049f1fa41f9e280882bcef6\">argued California already has tools\u003c/a> to go after criminals sufficiently, rejected calls to reform the measure in January. He instead urged lawmakers to bolster existing laws and go after motor vehicle thefts and resellers of stolen merchandise. California is also \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-smash-grab-robberies-grants-police-0172b4e64ed9d748a6fced4316f4121d\">spending $267 million\u003c/a> to help dozens of local law enforcement agencies increase patrols, buy surveillance equipment and conduct other activities to crack down on retail theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘Not to say everything about Prop. 47 is hunky-dory and perfect. We want to help fix some of the ambiguities there, but we could do it without reforming or going back to the voters.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Gov. Gavin Newsom","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“Not to say everything about Prop. 47 is hunky-dory and perfect,” Newsom said in January. “We want to help fix some of the ambiguities there, but we could do it without reforming or going back to the voters.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California voters approved Proposition 47 in 2014 to help California comply with a 2011 California Supreme Court order, which upheld that California’s overcrowded prisons violated incarcerated individuals’ Eighth Amendment rights against cruel and unusual punishment. The proposition modified but did not eliminate sentencing for many drug and nonviolent property crimes, including thefts under $950.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Funding saved from having fewer people in jails and prisons, totaling $113 million this fiscal year, has gone to local programs to fight recidivism with some successes, state officials and advocates said. But the proposition has made it harder to prosecute shoplifters and enabled brazen crime rings, law enforcement officials said. An effort to reform the measure failed in 2020.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","postid":"news_11975692,news_11979533,news_10743111"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Following Newsom’s directions, Democratic leaders in both chambers at the Capitol also have shut down calls to repeal the measure. Last month, the state’s new Senate President Pro Tempore Mike McGuire, with bipartisan support, introduced a package of legislation that would target auto thefts and large-scale resell schemes and expand diversion programs such as drug courts and treatment services. Under the proposal, online marketplaces would also be required to crack down on users reselling stolen goods on their platforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I do not believe that this state needs to touch Prop. 47 to be able to help make our communities safer, full stop,” McGuire said during a news conference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11979533/i-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-ballot-assembly-speaker-rivas-opposes-changes-to-proposition-47\">who has said he also doesn’t want to repeal Proposition 47\u003c/a>, co-authored similar legislation aimed at repeat thieves and online resellers. It would allow law enforcement to “stack” the value of goods stolen from different victims to impose harsher penalties and arrest people for shoplifting using video footage or witness statements. The measure also would mandate online sellers to maintain records proving the merchandise wasn’t stolen and require some retail businesses to report stolen goods data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But some Democratic lawmakers said those efforts won’t be enough to make a difference. Assemblymember James Ramos, who authored bipartisan legislation to increase penalties for repeat shoplifters, said many lawmakers want to see “the pendulum swing back to the middle.” The bill would require voters’ approval.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘Prop. 47 needs to have some type of resetting. We have the opportunity now to start that dialogue.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Assemblymember James Ramos","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“Prop. 47 needs to have some type of resetting,” Ramos said. “We have the opportunity now to start that dialogue.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Assemblymember Kevin McCarty, chair of the Assembly Public Safety Committee, said he also is exploring options, including putting something on the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Everything is on the table,” McCarty said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, major retail groups and the California District Attorney Association, along with the Democratic mayors of San Francisco and San José, have thrown their support behind a ballot initiative to stiffen penalties for repeat thieves, among other things. The groups are still collecting signatures to qualify for the November ballot before the April deadline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11980483/california-lawmakers-look-for-balance-amid-solutions-to-stop-retail-theft","authors":["byline_news_11980483"],"categories":["news_31795","news_8"],"tags":["news_17626","news_17725","news_25015","news_18502"],"featImg":"news_11980490","label":"news"},"news_11979533":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11979533","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11979533","score":null,"sort":[1710500433000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1710500433,"format":"standard","title":"'I Don't Want to Go Back to the Ballot': Assembly Speaker Rivas Opposes Changes to Proposition 47","headTitle":"‘I Don’t Want to Go Back to the Ballot’: Assembly Speaker Rivas Opposes Changes to Proposition 47 | KQED","content":"\u003cp>California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas (D-Salinas) on Thursday said he didn’t want to ask voters to reverse parts of Proposition 47, the state’s controversial criminal justice reform law that some critics blame for increases in rates of shoplifting and organized retail theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t want to go back to the ballot,” Rivas said on KQED’s Political Breakdown. “I don’t think we need to repeal Prop. 47.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rivas joins the two other most powerful Democrats in Sacramento — Gov. Gavin Newsom and \u003ca href=\"https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article285940321.html\">Senate President Pro Tem Mike McGuire\u003c/a> — who previously stated their opposition to bringing the question back to voters. Rivas, McGuire and Newsom all say the state can tackle retail theft issues through the legislative process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Catch up fast: \u003c/strong>California voters passed Proposition 47 in 2014, as the state faced a U.S. Supreme Court order to reduce its prison population and as public opinion swung away from tough-on-crime laws that dominated criminal justice in previous decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ballot measure lowered simple possession of illegal drugs from a felony to a misdemeanor and raised the felony threshold for theft from $400 to $950.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas (D-Salinas)\"]‘When you talk about Prop. 47, the important criminal justice reforms we have taken in this state — for me personally, there’s no going backwards.’[/pullquote]The thinking behind the ballot measure, which passed with nearly 60% support, was that expensive jail and prison beds should be reserved for people who pose a threat of violence and are not an appropriate place for drug addicts and minor thieves. It was crafted so that the state would have to reinvest the cost savings from fewer people in jails and prisons into treatment programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proposition 47 has saved the state more than $800 million by keeping people out of jails and prisons — $113 million this fiscal year alone, according to the governor’s Department of Finance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Law enforcement leaders have always opposed the law and, in recent years, have blamed the measure for increasingly visible retail theft problems in California, ranging from repeat offenders who shoplift small amounts to organized retail crime rings that steal merchandise to resell it. The brazenness of these crimes, which are often caught on video, has increased political pressure on Democrats in Sacramento to act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">KQED analysis of Proposition 47 found \u003c/a>that law enforcement has been less aggressive in recent years in arresting low-level shoplifters and that Proposition 47 is often blamed for crimes that it doesn’t directly affect, such as large-scale organized retail theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Why it matters: \u003c/strong>Rivas’ comments could rankle some members of his caucus who are clamoring to change Proposition 47 on the ballot. Six Assembly Democrats have \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1772\">signed on to a bipartisan bill\u003c/a> that would ask voters to approve additional jail time for people convicted of theft who have two or more prior shoplifting offenses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11975692 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/GettyImages-1363480595-1020x680.jpg']And Kevin McCarty, chair of the Assembly Public Safety committee and a key Rivas ally has refused to close the door on changes to Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re not picking and choosing which ideas are moving forward yet,” McCarty said at a February press conference. “Everything is on the table.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What comes next could be a key test for Rivas’ promises of an egalitarian speakership, in which more bills will be given the opportunity of a public hearing. How far will Rivas allow proposals to advance that he personally opposes?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What they’re saying: \u003c/strong> Rivas and Assembly Democrats \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/newsletter/retail-theft-california-crime-bill/\">rolled out a bill\u003c/a> in February to tackle organized retail theft. While many other proposals focus on increasing criminal penalties for shoplifting, Rivas said the Assembly legislation targets a different key player: The online marketplaces where stolen goods are often resold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s an undeniable connection when it comes to the proliferation of organized retail theft and the ease in selling stolen goods on these online marketplaces and e-commerce platforms,” he told Political Breakdown. “And so expecting more transparency and accountability from them needs to be part of the solution. They have to do much more to prevent the sale of stolen goods.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The legislation would, among other things, require online sellers to maintain records showing that goods were legally obtained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rivas said, in general, he remains committed to criminal justice reform and the strides the state has made in that direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What we’re watching\u003c/strong>: Bills to push Proposition 47 changes onto the ballot could receive hearings in the coming weeks — along with other proposals that aim to reduce shoplifting without going to the voters. Those changes, backed by Newsom, include proposals that would make it easier for law enforcement and prosecutors to arrest and charge shoplifters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, groups representing retailers and prosecutors are collecting signatures to qualify a ballot measure to create new felonies for repeated theft. Rivas said Thursday he remains confident that a compromise can be achieved to avoid a bruising ballot fight this November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I prefer the legislative process because it allows us to engage all stakeholders and refine any bill throughout that process,” Rivas said. “When you talk about Prop. 47, the important criminal justice reforms we have taken in this state — for me personally, there’s no going backwards.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listen up:\u003c/strong> Check out \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11979435/how-assembly-speaker-rivas-rural-farmworker-background-affects-his-leadership-style\">the full episode of Political Breakdown\u003c/a>, on which Rivas talked to Marisa Lagos and Scott Shafer about his first year as Assembly speaker, the state budget, and how he has dealt with a stutter throughout his life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":976,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":23},"modified":1710524108,"excerpt":"Asked about changes to controversial criminal justice reforms, the top Democrats told KQED’s Political Breakdown they don't think Proposition 47 should be repealed.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"Asked about changes to controversial criminal justice reforms, the top Democrats told KQED’s Political Breakdown they don't think Proposition 47 should be repealed.","title":"'I Don't Want to Go Back to the Ballot': Assembly Speaker Rivas Opposes Changes to Proposition 47 | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"'I Don't Want to Go Back to the Ballot': Assembly Speaker Rivas Opposes Changes to Proposition 47","datePublished":"2024-03-15T04:00:33-07:00","dateModified":"2024-03-15T10:35:08-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"i-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-ballot-assembly-speaker-rivas-opposes-changes-to-proposition-47","status":"publish","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","sticky":false,"articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11979533/i-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-ballot-assembly-speaker-rivas-opposes-changes-to-proposition-47","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas (D-Salinas) on Thursday said he didn’t want to ask voters to reverse parts of Proposition 47, the state’s controversial criminal justice reform law that some critics blame for increases in rates of shoplifting and organized retail theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t want to go back to the ballot,” Rivas said on KQED’s Political Breakdown. “I don’t think we need to repeal Prop. 47.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rivas joins the two other most powerful Democrats in Sacramento — Gov. Gavin Newsom and \u003ca href=\"https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article285940321.html\">Senate President Pro Tem Mike McGuire\u003c/a> — who previously stated their opposition to bringing the question back to voters. Rivas, McGuire and Newsom all say the state can tackle retail theft issues through the legislative process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Catch up fast: \u003c/strong>California voters passed Proposition 47 in 2014, as the state faced a U.S. Supreme Court order to reduce its prison population and as public opinion swung away from tough-on-crime laws that dominated criminal justice in previous decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ballot measure lowered simple possession of illegal drugs from a felony to a misdemeanor and raised the felony threshold for theft from $400 to $950.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘When you talk about Prop. 47, the important criminal justice reforms we have taken in this state — for me personally, there’s no going backwards.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas (D-Salinas)","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The thinking behind the ballot measure, which passed with nearly 60% support, was that expensive jail and prison beds should be reserved for people who pose a threat of violence and are not an appropriate place for drug addicts and minor thieves. It was crafted so that the state would have to reinvest the cost savings from fewer people in jails and prisons into treatment programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Proposition 47 has saved the state more than $800 million by keeping people out of jails and prisons — $113 million this fiscal year alone, according to the governor’s Department of Finance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Law enforcement leaders have always opposed the law and, in recent years, have blamed the measure for increasingly visible retail theft problems in California, ranging from repeat offenders who shoplift small amounts to organized retail crime rings that steal merchandise to resell it. The brazenness of these crimes, which are often caught on video, has increased political pressure on Democrats in Sacramento to act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11975692/prop-47s-impact-on-californias-criminal-justice-system\">KQED analysis of Proposition 47 found \u003c/a>that law enforcement has been less aggressive in recent years in arresting low-level shoplifters and that Proposition 47 is often blamed for crimes that it doesn’t directly affect, such as large-scale organized retail theft.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Why it matters: \u003c/strong>Rivas’ comments could rankle some members of his caucus who are clamoring to change Proposition 47 on the ballot. Six Assembly Democrats have \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1772\">signed on to a bipartisan bill\u003c/a> that would ask voters to approve additional jail time for people convicted of theft who have two or more prior shoplifting offenses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11975692","hero":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/02/GettyImages-1363480595-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>And Kevin McCarty, chair of the Assembly Public Safety committee and a key Rivas ally has refused to close the door on changes to Proposition 47.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re not picking and choosing which ideas are moving forward yet,” McCarty said at a February press conference. “Everything is on the table.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What comes next could be a key test for Rivas’ promises of an egalitarian speakership, in which more bills will be given the opportunity of a public hearing. How far will Rivas allow proposals to advance that he personally opposes?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What they’re saying: \u003c/strong> Rivas and Assembly Democrats \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/newsletter/retail-theft-california-crime-bill/\">rolled out a bill\u003c/a> in February to tackle organized retail theft. While many other proposals focus on increasing criminal penalties for shoplifting, Rivas said the Assembly legislation targets a different key player: The online marketplaces where stolen goods are often resold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s an undeniable connection when it comes to the proliferation of organized retail theft and the ease in selling stolen goods on these online marketplaces and e-commerce platforms,” he told Political Breakdown. “And so expecting more transparency and accountability from them needs to be part of the solution. They have to do much more to prevent the sale of stolen goods.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The legislation would, among other things, require online sellers to maintain records showing that goods were legally obtained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rivas said, in general, he remains committed to criminal justice reform and the strides the state has made in that direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What we’re watching\u003c/strong>: Bills to push Proposition 47 changes onto the ballot could receive hearings in the coming weeks — along with other proposals that aim to reduce shoplifting without going to the voters. Those changes, backed by Newsom, include proposals that would make it easier for law enforcement and prosecutors to arrest and charge shoplifters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, groups representing retailers and prosecutors are collecting signatures to qualify a ballot measure to create new felonies for repeated theft. Rivas said Thursday he remains confident that a compromise can be achieved to avoid a bruising ballot fight this November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I prefer the legislative process because it allows us to engage all stakeholders and refine any bill throughout that process,” Rivas said. “When you talk about Prop. 47, the important criminal justice reforms we have taken in this state — for me personally, there’s no going backwards.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listen up:\u003c/strong> Check out \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11979435/how-assembly-speaker-rivas-rural-farmworker-background-affects-his-leadership-style\">the full episode of Political Breakdown\u003c/a>, on which Rivas talked to Marisa Lagos and Scott Shafer about his first year as Assembly speaker, the state budget, and how he has dealt with a stutter throughout his life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11979533/i-dont-want-to-go-back-to-the-ballot-assembly-speaker-rivas-opposes-changes-to-proposition-47","authors":["3239","227"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_17626","news_22276","news_18502"],"featImg":"news_11979443","label":"news"},"news_11960420":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11960420","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11960420","score":null,"sort":[1694137819000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1694137819,"format":"audio","title":"Reggie Jones-Sawyer on the Fentanyl Crisis, Retail Theft and His 'New Journey'","headTitle":"Reggie Jones-Sawyer on the Fentanyl Crisis, Retail Theft and His ‘New Journey’ | KQED","content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assemblymember Reggie Jones-Sawyer, D-Los Angeles, talks to Marisa and Guy Marzorati about his uncle Jefferson Thomas and the Little Rock Nine, Proposition 47 and retail theft, his response to the fentanyl crisis, reparations for Black Californians, how he learned self-forgiveness and his “new journey” after a near-death experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Hey everyone, from KQED Public Radio, this is Political Breakdown, I’m Marisa Lagos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And I’m Guy Marzorati in for Scott Shafer, and today on the Breakdown, lawmakers are entering their final week of the legislative session. We’re in Sacramento to sit down with one of the committee chairs who has arguably received the most attention and scrutiny this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Los Angeles Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer is here with us in studio. His district includes South Central L.A. and he’s chair of the Assembly Public Safety Committee, where much of the hotly debated criminal justice and fentanyl-related legislation met its fate this year. We’re going to talk with him about how his life has informed his leadership here in Sacramento. Assemblymember, welcome to the Breakdown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Great to be here this morning, thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, thanks for being here. You know, we would like to talk a little bit about your life before we get into your policymaking, because I think it’s really informed how you have governed. I know you were born in Little Rock, Arkansas, where your family had a pretty deep history. Tell us a little bit about your family there and their kind of involvement in the civil rights movement, really.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So I usually tell the story of when I finally got to college, I was having a really, really good time. I’m talking about a really good time. I’m talking academic probation, good time and about to get kicked out of USC. And I had to go sit at the foot of my grandmother, and my grandmother would have a ladle in her hand. If it was in her left hand she wanted to talk, if it was in her right hand that meant the beatings were going to start. And I started telling her because she didn’t graduate from elementary school. And I try to tell her, you know, she’s talking about her national champions. I’m going to this fancy school. I’m you know, I’m in a fraternity and everything. So the ladle went from the left hand to the right hand. That meant “shut up.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so she told me the story and she said, Look, when you were a baby, I was born in 1957, the same time my uncle was entering Little Rock Central High School with the Little Rock Nine, who were trained in nonviolence with Martin Luther King and Reverend Lawson. And she said she got a phone call one day while she was cooking and a voice was from the Klan. And the Ku Klux Klan told her to get her son out of school or your grandson will never make it to school. She said “That grandson was you. You have absolutely no right to give up this education. And in fact, you had to leave Arkansas because we knew something was better for you away from here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Wow\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Ever since then, I was on the dean’s list, and I never look back. And so I attribute that to them telling me those stories about being able to change history. And if you talk to any one of the Little Rock Nine during that time, they just wanted to go to school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> They were kids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> They were kids. Think about it, they were 15, 16 years old. They had to send the 101st Airborne down to protect them, to go to school every day. They were kicked. They were beaten. They were called the N-word almost every day. And they had to endure it for a year. And there’s a picture of my uncle standing next to a fence post where they forgot to pick him up one day, and the group of kids surrounded him and started, you know, needling him and giving me a hard time. And there’s a famous picture of him standing by this lamp post. And across the street, you can see all the racists yelling at him. And he’s not moving. He’s not moving at all. And my when they finally got to him, they realized he was in shock because they surrounded him. When I asked him, how did you survive it? And he said, “I never gave them any hate back. I never let them give me any fear.” And he said there was a kid there that came over and said, “Leave him alone.” And everybody dispersed. The next day, he said, “Hey, why did you why did you come help me? Must be really Christian person. It was really great.” And the guy said, “Well, my family is atheist. I just did it because it was the right thing to do.” And ever since then, I realize no matter what the controversy is, just do the right thing and things will work out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> I mean, I can imagine not just the toll him but on his family, siblings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, my mother. Another story I’ll tell you real quick. My mother, I remember, I asked her what she’d do during that time because they’re eight kids and everybody had a job. And she said, “I washed your uncle’s shirt every night.” And I made, you know, you know, 15, 14 years old. “That means you didn’t do anything.” And my uncle heard me grab it by the scruff of my neck. And he said, “Let me tell you something. Every day I went to school, somebody either picked something on me, urinated on me, took a marker on this white shirt. Every night your mother stayed up all night to make sure that shirt was white as it could be. She bleached it, she did everything she could. So when I went back every day, they saw me in the same white shirt, clean as a whistle. And that was my flag to say, you’re never going to stop me no matter what you do. You can’t stop me. Your mother did that. That was her job. Your mother probably had a more important thing to do in this struggle than anybody else.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, you mentioned that you did end up at USC, but I know before that, even after moving to L.A., you had a tough childhood. You’ve talked about that your mother was abused by your father. Can you just tell us a little bit about, you know, your experiences as a kid and kind of what you what you carried with you from those?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> I’ve learned that a lot of things that happen to young people when you’re traumatized. And that’s why I do a lot of work of getting money for people with childhood trauma so they can get beyond it. Many don’t. And they end up in the criminal justice system because of early childhood trauma. And so living in the projects, you see some things that no young kid should ever see. And whether or not a domestic violence that my mother experienced, that our family experienced, you know, I was molested as a kid with a babysitter. My uncle was stabbed seven times in front of his family members and killed in front of my aunt. And I have an uncle, not an uncle, but a cousin who was transgender and which we didn’t know what that was back then. So Julius became Jules and was going through the procedure. And one day somebody killed Jules and violated that body that they had. And I mean all of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> How did you kind of make it out of that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So one of the things that I think really helped is I for some reason I got involved with a mental health professional who, as we went through a lot of the pain and the hurt and talked through it, one, I realized none of it was my fault. And I took a lot of blame onto myself, that to know that that, you know, there are some things I heard as far as the domestic violence that I did. I was so, you know, you’re six or five years old. I wanted to go help my mother, but I was in shock and I didn’t do anything. And so I always carried that guilt. There were things that happened with my uncles that I wanted to do something, but I couldn’t do anything. Again, I had that guilt and I wanted to lash out and that anger was in me. They taught me to not only release it, but to talk about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But I still never really talked about it in public, I think for a lot of African-Americans, especially African-Americans in my community, especially African-American males, we don’t talk about the pain and hurt that we experience. And I’m noticing that even with in my work with public safety, there are a lot of people, firefighters, police officers, prison guards and others that experience some of the most horrendous types of scenes that you could possibly deal with and they’re not releasing or feeling a place that they can get released at. Some of us use substance, substance abuse. And that’s why you see so much out there on the street, substance abuse because we’re not able to heal ourselves. You know, when you have a mental crisis, it’s not like having a cold. Then you go get some cough medicine or somebody give you a shot to help you cure yourself. This is something that you can’t see but you but it just as damaging anything else. Stress is a killer like you wouldn’t believe. Yeah, and I don’t think people understand that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Do you see at all your path in public service that you ended up pursuing as a way to take action, a way to take back kind of empowerment and a way to kind of take forward the experiences that you went through as a child?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So I don’t know how I got here. I kind of do, but I really don’t know. On December 22nd, 2022, I had a minor operation and I died. I literally died and I was brought back to life by the nurses who took quick action. During that time I saw a lot of things. I was out for about 4 hours and when I finally came to, I saw my family around me and I asked them, you know, only takes — it was a one day operation and it only takes one of you to drive the car. Why is everybody around me? And that’s when they told me I had passed away. One of the things I tell people is I was able to see my five-year-old grandson graduate from college. And one of the things that I saw, I saw a lot of things and it made it clear why I am here right now, that there’s some things that I need to do. There were some challenges that I’m meeting now that I actually saw during that time, that if I had said something, I think people thought I would think I was a little nuts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I mean, there’s we have a history of people who experience life and death situations and they come back and tell you what they saw and people kind of look at you funny. Well as somebody that’s been through that, I believe that sometimes God has a way of saying, “I need to talk to you for a little bit.” Because when I went back to my hospital and said, Why did I die? Why did I have a cardiac arrest? I had a cardiac arrest on the 22nd? What caused it? And to this day, nobody knows how it cause it. But when I went to went to my church and they pointed up to the sky and said, I know, they said “God just needed to talk to you for a little bit.” And right after that, I’m starting this new journey of why I need to to do more, to not only help my people, but to make sure that everyone has a society that works best for them. And for the first time, I realize I’m in a position to really kind of help people, especially disadvantaged people, especially homeless people, especially people who don’t have a voice. That’s why I’m here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Alright, hold it there. We’re going to take a very short break and when we come back we’ll continue talking to L.A. Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Welcome back to Political Breakdown, I’m Marisa Lagos here this week with Guy Marzorati. We are talking with Los Angeles Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer. So we mentioned you had a pretty traumatic childhood. You ended up at USC. I know you spent time working in college at the morgue during the crack epidemic, and then you go on to work in L.A. city government for decades. And I kind of want to jump forward because we only have so much time. You were elected to the Assembly in 2012, and this was really right after the Supreme Court had ordered the state to lower its prison population. Lawmakers and the governor were really grappling with how to do that, how to do that while ensuring public safety. And you end up getting tapped to work on the Public Safety Committee pretty soon after to lead it. How did that kind of come to be and was that something that you welcomed or thought you might be doing when you got up here? I know you ran on more of the kind of economic job creation platform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Yes. And as I worked for the city for 25 years, I did real estate. I ended up Director of Real Estate when I retired from the city. And so when I first got here, I wanted to change the criminal justice system from the courts. And so I decided that since they were during the time when we didn’t have any money, we had kind of. It’s about $1,000,000,000 that the court system was in the hole. And so I made a concerted effort to restore that money. But I wanted to restore that money so that they would have diversion programs and they would have drug courts and juvenile courts and homeless courts and courts that it would help people divert from the prison population. And when I first started, the judges told me that I couldn’t do that. That one, I wasn’t a lawyer. I didn’t know what I was talking about. And I said, Well, that’s fine. But right now I’m in charge of the purse strings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Do you want to get out of this deficit or not?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[laughs]\u003c/em> And so I worked really hard over two or the next five years, one to restore that billion dollars so they could run efficiently. So people would have access to justice from the criminal justice system. But at that time, we had three strikes. We had sentences that were predetermined no matter what happened. Judges could only do that. And so we started to move the courts to where judges were able to actually look at the holistic individual and figure out a way what is best for, say, public safety. And then they make the decision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> You’ve had a decade now in the legislature, I think seven years chairing this public safety committee. Where would you point to as kind of, maybe your greatest mark on public safety, on the criminal legal system in California?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So when we looked at ways we can ensure that people didn’t recidivate and lowering the number of people who recidivate back into prison, we made a conscious effort to make sure that they were trained, they had jobs, better educated, got off of drugs, and if they had mental health problems when we started to focus like a laser on those things, there are fewer and fewer people coming back into prison, because it was like a revolving door. And so the prison population obviously ballooned to about 160,000, now it’s about 96,000 people who are incarcerated. That means we have an opportunity to close prisons. And this year, I asked that two of the savings, or two of the prisons that the governor is closing will result in $230 million of annual savings that I want to plow it back into programs that help people with mental health in the communities that better education Boys and Girls Clubs on Saturday night basketball, things that keep kids out of out of problem areas so that we don’t refill the prisons again and that we have productive citizens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, and I think if you look at the data, I’m looking at recent numbers from the money that’s been saved from Prop 47, one of the reforms, the recidivism rates are just so low if people actually complete these programs. But as you know, there was a lot of reforms that happened. Realignment, Prop 47, three strikes reform, Prop 57. And there’s been some backlash. And I just wonder, is there any argument we went too far too fast? When you talk to people who are worried about public safety these days, do you ever feel like, okay, maybe we, you know, should have been a little bit slower on some of these changes?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So we went too far too fast when we did three strikes and other things and then we’re trying to adjust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> You mean the tough-on-crime era?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> The tough-on-crime era and when you do an adjustment because there is no law that is perfect. And like I usually tell people, and I’m an elected official, so I can say this. It’s never legislation. It’s always implementation. And so if we had implemented it to its fullest, if we had people totally involved in making sure it got corrected, we would not be in the situation where — the example I will give you, I did AB 1065 organized retail theft, that was done 2018. That little small unit of CHP and DOJ have resulted in $30 million brought back over 1800 convictions or places where they’ve actually arrested people. Been unbelievably successful. We did that with Jerry Brown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then when Governor Gavin Newsom looked at the statistics, he gave it another $200 million to expand it because it was so successful. And now when you actually look at the number of people who are being arrested now on a smash and grab, it’s based on the organized retail theft law that I instituted. And what it does is, it charges people with felonies so that they not only get several years in jail, but Attorney General Bonta is also charging them with federal crimes which could get up to 20 years in jail. So that way you go after the organizers of it and get them off the street. But you still have an opportunity to deal with people who you can give some services to. That’s the kind of combination we needed to do, and we needed to spread it and expand it to make Prop 47 better. That’s where we’re at. We got to make Prop 47 better and not eliminate it. That’s the struggle right now. It’s either ying or yang.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Because there is this sense, and I think, in large part driven by viral videos, that sense of lawlessness or that you could get away with shoplifting. How do you respond to those kind of criticisms?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> It’s difficult. One of my early political mentors once told me “perception is reality.” The chief of police of LAPD, Los Angeles police department can tell you every day that violent crime is down. He can tell you that crime is down. But if you see those videos on TV, you feel—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What do you feel?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And then the other thing that which I think is also distressing that we have to come to grips with, that there’s a racial aspect to it. So when you see homeless people out on the street and, you know, you see African-American homeless people out in the street, there are people who are not African-Americans who then are fearful of black people anyway, clutching their purses when they get on the elevator. And then that’s exacerbated when you walk out every day and you see a homeless person out there. And so that just that subconsciously is giving the impression that everything is worse. How many times do you hear that because of the homeless situation, “This looks like a third world country,” and statements like that. And so we’ve really got to come to grips with our own, what we feel and just try to focus like a laser on how to resolve that, because that that’s part of it. Because perception is really reality for a lot of people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I want to ask you really quickly before we talk about fentanyl, the other law that got passed to kind of tweak 47 was to allow folks to aggregate charges, DAs to aggregate charges, right? So that if you are a repeat, you know, shoplifter, even if you’re not part of a big ring, you can get charged with a felony, even if the dollar amount, you know, doesn’t get to that felony threshold. I’ve been doing some research. I have not been able to find any examples of this law being used. One DA says he’s never had police present that sort of case. Others have told me they think it’s just difficult for law enforcement to build these cases. What’s your response to that kind of, you know, reaction? Because we hear a lot of kind of hating on 47 from law enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Right. And that’s been, that’s been a real problem. And that’s why I talk about, for example, on fentanyl I said we need to unite the fight on fentanyl. We need to unite the fight against criminals, to unite to fight to protect citizens, because we can’t pull it all together. Collaboration is the only way we’re going to ultimately be able to get this done. If law enforcement is not doing a job because they think Prop 47 is preventing them, when in fact we do have laws on the books that they can, think about it: If the attorney general and the CHP can aggregate and do it, that means other law enforcement officers can do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We need to put down all the rhetoric and then come together to get this done. No one, no one Republican, Democrat, moderate, progressive, no one wants to get let criminals get away with anything. And that is a fallacy whatsoever. And so there are laws on the books that you can actually prosecute. When I hear from a business owner that says, “I see someone in my store, I call the police. Three hours later, they show up and said they don’t really come to these because of Prop 47.” Well, that’s not true. If you catch somebody in your store burglarizing it, you can prosecute them and you can prosecute to the fullest. So somehow we’ve got to have a collaborative conversation to where we’re all working together to do what we need to do to to give people a perception that criminals are being prosecuted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> I want to ask about fentanyl. There’s been a number of bills that moved through the Public Safety Committee this year dealing with increasing sentencing for dealing fentanyl that were voted down, some of them even brought by Democrats. And I wonder, you know, in Sacramento, you often get bills that get kind of a courtesy ‘aye’ vote in committee. Members might not completely support the idea, but they want to see the bill move forward. They want to see negotiations or kind of compromise continue. Why did you feel, I guess, that those bills were legislatively irredeemable? They couldn’t move past your committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So when those bills come up, the committee as a whole try to figure out a way so that they can pass. It is usually up to the author whether or not they accept amendments. Probably 90% of the time, maybe close to 100% of the time, the reason they don’t get out is because they refuse any kind of amendments. They want it to go through purely as the way it is. There is no legislation that doesn’t have some kind of change so that we can move forward with it. And so even when we don’t vote on something, meaning if some of the legislation that goes through where the committee does a no vote, they just don’t vote at all. That means they want to do more research and look at it and then hopefully it’ll get passed in January. Well, that was looked upon as a no vote. It’s not a no vote. It’s look, let’s get back past the rhetoric, let’s get past the politics in the press and let’s get into the policy of what we really need to do. Because once you get to the root of what you’re trying to solve, because that’s what we —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, what do you think we need to do around fentanyl? I mean, it is a crisis. It’s horrific what’s happening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Well we have a $5 billion bond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, tell us about that. That we, the Democrats, put together a group of law enforcement, medical professionals, psychiatrists, drug abuse specialists. They all came together and we had a hearing. And whether it was a judge, a DA, law enforcement, each of them said we needed a public health solution to fentanyl and that tough-on-crime measures did not work. So I believe we could stop the opioid epidemic if we had better education, we went to the schools. Also making sure we had Narcan. That’s what my bond does, make sure we had Narcan in every school or in places so we can stop the overdose, especially in Skid Row, where my district is that we can stop it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And so this bond, November 2024, that’s what you’re pushing for, is that right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Yes. We were trying to get it on, obviously wanted to get it on the March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> But the governor has other things going on\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> There was a bigger name\u003cem> [laughs]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> We’re running short on time. The last thing we want to ask you about is reparations. You were involved on the task force multiyear process, came out with the final report this summer. It sounds like most of the legislative action is probably going to happen starting next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Bills getting introduced that came ideas from the report. If we’re sitting here in a year, what does success look like to you on reparations over the course of the next year?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> And so the main the two main people who are going to be involved in it is Senator Steven Bradford and myself, we ill be pushing both legislative and budgetary recommendations moving forward through both houses and to the Governor. For us, with this being our last year, obviously we would like to get everything done, but we’re going to try to get as much done as possible, knowing the reality may be a multiyear process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Of course, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer\u003c/strong>: But we’ve got to at least set up the initial parameters, especially the easy things, like an apology letter should not be something that’s ultimately controversial. Looking at ways we can ensure that that African-Americans, especially young kids, can get into higher education. The law school at UCLA, the numbers are abysmal. If we just worked real hard to figure out a way we can get more and more of our kids there, and then we’re really seriously looking at innovative ways to be able to close the wealth gap. And it’s even harder now with the housing crisis and the housing being so expensive. But that is, if you look at what is the wealth gap between white and African Americans it is the home. And if we can start to own land, then we can go to the next step. Owning a business or stocks and bonds. But it’s a gradual thing. But the first thing we got to start is financial literacy and being able to get people to start to own and buy homes and remove those barriers from us being able to access property.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: All right. We’re going to have to leave it there. Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer, thanks for coming in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Appreciate your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer\u003c/strong>: All right, thank you. Thank you both, this was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: That’s going to do it for this edition of Political Breakdown, we’re a production of KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati\u003c/strong>: Our engineers today are Brendan Willard and Christopher Beale, I’m Guy Marzorati.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: And I’m Marisa Lagos. 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We’re in Sacramento to sit down with one of the committee chairs who has arguably received the most attention and scrutiny this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Los Angeles Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer is here with us in studio. His district includes South Central L.A. and he’s chair of the Assembly Public Safety Committee, where much of the hotly debated criminal justice and fentanyl-related legislation met its fate this year. We’re going to talk with him about how his life has informed his leadership here in Sacramento. Assemblymember, welcome to the Breakdown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Great to be here this morning, thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, thanks for being here. You know, we would like to talk a little bit about your life before we get into your policymaking, because I think it’s really informed how you have governed. I know you were born in Little Rock, Arkansas, where your family had a pretty deep history. Tell us a little bit about your family there and their kind of involvement in the civil rights movement, really.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So I usually tell the story of when I finally got to college, I was having a really, really good time. I’m talking about a really good time. I’m talking academic probation, good time and about to get kicked out of USC. And I had to go sit at the foot of my grandmother, and my grandmother would have a ladle in her hand. If it was in her left hand she wanted to talk, if it was in her right hand that meant the beatings were going to start. And I started telling her because she didn’t graduate from elementary school. And I try to tell her, you know, she’s talking about her national champions. I’m going to this fancy school. I’m you know, I’m in a fraternity and everything. So the ladle went from the left hand to the right hand. That meant “shut up.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so she told me the story and she said, Look, when you were a baby, I was born in 1957, the same time my uncle was entering Little Rock Central High School with the Little Rock Nine, who were trained in nonviolence with Martin Luther King and Reverend Lawson. And she said she got a phone call one day while she was cooking and a voice was from the Klan. And the Ku Klux Klan told her to get her son out of school or your grandson will never make it to school. She said “That grandson was you. You have absolutely no right to give up this education. And in fact, you had to leave Arkansas because we knew something was better for you away from here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Wow\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Ever since then, I was on the dean’s list, and I never look back. And so I attribute that to them telling me those stories about being able to change history. And if you talk to any one of the Little Rock Nine during that time, they just wanted to go to school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> They were kids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> They were kids. Think about it, they were 15, 16 years old. They had to send the 101st Airborne down to protect them, to go to school every day. They were kicked. They were beaten. They were called the N-word almost every day. And they had to endure it for a year. And there’s a picture of my uncle standing next to a fence post where they forgot to pick him up one day, and the group of kids surrounded him and started, you know, needling him and giving me a hard time. And there’s a famous picture of him standing by this lamp post. And across the street, you can see all the racists yelling at him. And he’s not moving. He’s not moving at all. And my when they finally got to him, they realized he was in shock because they surrounded him. When I asked him, how did you survive it? And he said, “I never gave them any hate back. I never let them give me any fear.” And he said there was a kid there that came over and said, “Leave him alone.” And everybody dispersed. The next day, he said, “Hey, why did you why did you come help me? Must be really Christian person. It was really great.” And the guy said, “Well, my family is atheist. I just did it because it was the right thing to do.” And ever since then, I realize no matter what the controversy is, just do the right thing and things will work out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> I mean, I can imagine not just the toll him but on his family, siblings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, my mother. Another story I’ll tell you real quick. My mother, I remember, I asked her what she’d do during that time because they’re eight kids and everybody had a job. And she said, “I washed your uncle’s shirt every night.” And I made, you know, you know, 15, 14 years old. “That means you didn’t do anything.” And my uncle heard me grab it by the scruff of my neck. And he said, “Let me tell you something. Every day I went to school, somebody either picked something on me, urinated on me, took a marker on this white shirt. Every night your mother stayed up all night to make sure that shirt was white as it could be. She bleached it, she did everything she could. So when I went back every day, they saw me in the same white shirt, clean as a whistle. And that was my flag to say, you’re never going to stop me no matter what you do. You can’t stop me. Your mother did that. That was her job. Your mother probably had a more important thing to do in this struggle than anybody else.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, you mentioned that you did end up at USC, but I know before that, even after moving to L.A., you had a tough childhood. You’ve talked about that your mother was abused by your father. Can you just tell us a little bit about, you know, your experiences as a kid and kind of what you what you carried with you from those?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> I’ve learned that a lot of things that happen to young people when you’re traumatized. And that’s why I do a lot of work of getting money for people with childhood trauma so they can get beyond it. Many don’t. And they end up in the criminal justice system because of early childhood trauma. And so living in the projects, you see some things that no young kid should ever see. And whether or not a domestic violence that my mother experienced, that our family experienced, you know, I was molested as a kid with a babysitter. My uncle was stabbed seven times in front of his family members and killed in front of my aunt. And I have an uncle, not an uncle, but a cousin who was transgender and which we didn’t know what that was back then. So Julius became Jules and was going through the procedure. And one day somebody killed Jules and violated that body that they had. And I mean all of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> How did you kind of make it out of that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So one of the things that I think really helped is I for some reason I got involved with a mental health professional who, as we went through a lot of the pain and the hurt and talked through it, one, I realized none of it was my fault. And I took a lot of blame onto myself, that to know that that, you know, there are some things I heard as far as the domestic violence that I did. I was so, you know, you’re six or five years old. I wanted to go help my mother, but I was in shock and I didn’t do anything. And so I always carried that guilt. There were things that happened with my uncles that I wanted to do something, but I couldn’t do anything. Again, I had that guilt and I wanted to lash out and that anger was in me. They taught me to not only release it, but to talk about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But I still never really talked about it in public, I think for a lot of African-Americans, especially African-Americans in my community, especially African-American males, we don’t talk about the pain and hurt that we experience. And I’m noticing that even with in my work with public safety, there are a lot of people, firefighters, police officers, prison guards and others that experience some of the most horrendous types of scenes that you could possibly deal with and they’re not releasing or feeling a place that they can get released at. Some of us use substance, substance abuse. And that’s why you see so much out there on the street, substance abuse because we’re not able to heal ourselves. You know, when you have a mental crisis, it’s not like having a cold. Then you go get some cough medicine or somebody give you a shot to help you cure yourself. This is something that you can’t see but you but it just as damaging anything else. Stress is a killer like you wouldn’t believe. Yeah, and I don’t think people understand that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Do you see at all your path in public service that you ended up pursuing as a way to take action, a way to take back kind of empowerment and a way to kind of take forward the experiences that you went through as a child?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So I don’t know how I got here. I kind of do, but I really don’t know. On December 22nd, 2022, I had a minor operation and I died. I literally died and I was brought back to life by the nurses who took quick action. During that time I saw a lot of things. I was out for about 4 hours and when I finally came to, I saw my family around me and I asked them, you know, only takes — it was a one day operation and it only takes one of you to drive the car. Why is everybody around me? And that’s when they told me I had passed away. One of the things I tell people is I was able to see my five-year-old grandson graduate from college. And one of the things that I saw, I saw a lot of things and it made it clear why I am here right now, that there’s some things that I need to do. There were some challenges that I’m meeting now that I actually saw during that time, that if I had said something, I think people thought I would think I was a little nuts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I mean, there’s we have a history of people who experience life and death situations and they come back and tell you what they saw and people kind of look at you funny. Well as somebody that’s been through that, I believe that sometimes God has a way of saying, “I need to talk to you for a little bit.” Because when I went back to my hospital and said, Why did I die? Why did I have a cardiac arrest? I had a cardiac arrest on the 22nd? What caused it? And to this day, nobody knows how it cause it. But when I went to went to my church and they pointed up to the sky and said, I know, they said “God just needed to talk to you for a little bit.” And right after that, I’m starting this new journey of why I need to to do more, to not only help my people, but to make sure that everyone has a society that works best for them. And for the first time, I realize I’m in a position to really kind of help people, especially disadvantaged people, especially homeless people, especially people who don’t have a voice. That’s why I’m here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Alright, hold it there. We’re going to take a very short break and when we come back we’ll continue talking to L.A. Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Welcome back to Political Breakdown, I’m Marisa Lagos here this week with Guy Marzorati. We are talking with Los Angeles Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer. So we mentioned you had a pretty traumatic childhood. You ended up at USC. I know you spent time working in college at the morgue during the crack epidemic, and then you go on to work in L.A. city government for decades. And I kind of want to jump forward because we only have so much time. You were elected to the Assembly in 2012, and this was really right after the Supreme Court had ordered the state to lower its prison population. Lawmakers and the governor were really grappling with how to do that, how to do that while ensuring public safety. And you end up getting tapped to work on the Public Safety Committee pretty soon after to lead it. How did that kind of come to be and was that something that you welcomed or thought you might be doing when you got up here? I know you ran on more of the kind of economic job creation platform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Yes. And as I worked for the city for 25 years, I did real estate. I ended up Director of Real Estate when I retired from the city. And so when I first got here, I wanted to change the criminal justice system from the courts. And so I decided that since they were during the time when we didn’t have any money, we had kind of. It’s about $1,000,000,000 that the court system was in the hole. And so I made a concerted effort to restore that money. But I wanted to restore that money so that they would have diversion programs and they would have drug courts and juvenile courts and homeless courts and courts that it would help people divert from the prison population. And when I first started, the judges told me that I couldn’t do that. That one, I wasn’t a lawyer. I didn’t know what I was talking about. And I said, Well, that’s fine. But right now I’m in charge of the purse strings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Do you want to get out of this deficit or not?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[laughs]\u003c/em> And so I worked really hard over two or the next five years, one to restore that billion dollars so they could run efficiently. So people would have access to justice from the criminal justice system. But at that time, we had three strikes. We had sentences that were predetermined no matter what happened. Judges could only do that. And so we started to move the courts to where judges were able to actually look at the holistic individual and figure out a way what is best for, say, public safety. And then they make the decision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> You’ve had a decade now in the legislature, I think seven years chairing this public safety committee. Where would you point to as kind of, maybe your greatest mark on public safety, on the criminal legal system in California?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So when we looked at ways we can ensure that people didn’t recidivate and lowering the number of people who recidivate back into prison, we made a conscious effort to make sure that they were trained, they had jobs, better educated, got off of drugs, and if they had mental health problems when we started to focus like a laser on those things, there are fewer and fewer people coming back into prison, because it was like a revolving door. And so the prison population obviously ballooned to about 160,000, now it’s about 96,000 people who are incarcerated. That means we have an opportunity to close prisons. And this year, I asked that two of the savings, or two of the prisons that the governor is closing will result in $230 million of annual savings that I want to plow it back into programs that help people with mental health in the communities that better education Boys and Girls Clubs on Saturday night basketball, things that keep kids out of out of problem areas so that we don’t refill the prisons again and that we have productive citizens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, and I think if you look at the data, I’m looking at recent numbers from the money that’s been saved from Prop 47, one of the reforms, the recidivism rates are just so low if people actually complete these programs. But as you know, there was a lot of reforms that happened. Realignment, Prop 47, three strikes reform, Prop 57. And there’s been some backlash. And I just wonder, is there any argument we went too far too fast? When you talk to people who are worried about public safety these days, do you ever feel like, okay, maybe we, you know, should have been a little bit slower on some of these changes?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So we went too far too fast when we did three strikes and other things and then we’re trying to adjust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> You mean the tough-on-crime era?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> The tough-on-crime era and when you do an adjustment because there is no law that is perfect. And like I usually tell people, and I’m an elected official, so I can say this. It’s never legislation. It’s always implementation. And so if we had implemented it to its fullest, if we had people totally involved in making sure it got corrected, we would not be in the situation where — the example I will give you, I did AB 1065 organized retail theft, that was done 2018. That little small unit of CHP and DOJ have resulted in $30 million brought back over 1800 convictions or places where they’ve actually arrested people. Been unbelievably successful. We did that with Jerry Brown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then when Governor Gavin Newsom looked at the statistics, he gave it another $200 million to expand it because it was so successful. And now when you actually look at the number of people who are being arrested now on a smash and grab, it’s based on the organized retail theft law that I instituted. And what it does is, it charges people with felonies so that they not only get several years in jail, but Attorney General Bonta is also charging them with federal crimes which could get up to 20 years in jail. So that way you go after the organizers of it and get them off the street. But you still have an opportunity to deal with people who you can give some services to. That’s the kind of combination we needed to do, and we needed to spread it and expand it to make Prop 47 better. That’s where we’re at. We got to make Prop 47 better and not eliminate it. That’s the struggle right now. It’s either ying or yang.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Because there is this sense, and I think, in large part driven by viral videos, that sense of lawlessness or that you could get away with shoplifting. How do you respond to those kind of criticisms?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> It’s difficult. One of my early political mentors once told me “perception is reality.” The chief of police of LAPD, Los Angeles police department can tell you every day that violent crime is down. He can tell you that crime is down. But if you see those videos on TV, you feel—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What do you feel?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And then the other thing that which I think is also distressing that we have to come to grips with, that there’s a racial aspect to it. So when you see homeless people out on the street and, you know, you see African-American homeless people out in the street, there are people who are not African-Americans who then are fearful of black people anyway, clutching their purses when they get on the elevator. And then that’s exacerbated when you walk out every day and you see a homeless person out there. And so that just that subconsciously is giving the impression that everything is worse. How many times do you hear that because of the homeless situation, “This looks like a third world country,” and statements like that. And so we’ve really got to come to grips with our own, what we feel and just try to focus like a laser on how to resolve that, because that that’s part of it. Because perception is really reality for a lot of people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I want to ask you really quickly before we talk about fentanyl, the other law that got passed to kind of tweak 47 was to allow folks to aggregate charges, DAs to aggregate charges, right? So that if you are a repeat, you know, shoplifter, even if you’re not part of a big ring, you can get charged with a felony, even if the dollar amount, you know, doesn’t get to that felony threshold. I’ve been doing some research. I have not been able to find any examples of this law being used. One DA says he’s never had police present that sort of case. Others have told me they think it’s just difficult for law enforcement to build these cases. What’s your response to that kind of, you know, reaction? Because we hear a lot of kind of hating on 47 from law enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Right. And that’s been, that’s been a real problem. And that’s why I talk about, for example, on fentanyl I said we need to unite the fight on fentanyl. We need to unite the fight against criminals, to unite to fight to protect citizens, because we can’t pull it all together. Collaboration is the only way we’re going to ultimately be able to get this done. If law enforcement is not doing a job because they think Prop 47 is preventing them, when in fact we do have laws on the books that they can, think about it: If the attorney general and the CHP can aggregate and do it, that means other law enforcement officers can do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We need to put down all the rhetoric and then come together to get this done. No one, no one Republican, Democrat, moderate, progressive, no one wants to get let criminals get away with anything. And that is a fallacy whatsoever. And so there are laws on the books that you can actually prosecute. When I hear from a business owner that says, “I see someone in my store, I call the police. Three hours later, they show up and said they don’t really come to these because of Prop 47.” Well, that’s not true. If you catch somebody in your store burglarizing it, you can prosecute them and you can prosecute to the fullest. So somehow we’ve got to have a collaborative conversation to where we’re all working together to do what we need to do to to give people a perception that criminals are being prosecuted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> I want to ask about fentanyl. There’s been a number of bills that moved through the Public Safety Committee this year dealing with increasing sentencing for dealing fentanyl that were voted down, some of them even brought by Democrats. And I wonder, you know, in Sacramento, you often get bills that get kind of a courtesy ‘aye’ vote in committee. Members might not completely support the idea, but they want to see the bill move forward. They want to see negotiations or kind of compromise continue. Why did you feel, I guess, that those bills were legislatively irredeemable? They couldn’t move past your committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> So when those bills come up, the committee as a whole try to figure out a way so that they can pass. It is usually up to the author whether or not they accept amendments. Probably 90% of the time, maybe close to 100% of the time, the reason they don’t get out is because they refuse any kind of amendments. They want it to go through purely as the way it is. There is no legislation that doesn’t have some kind of change so that we can move forward with it. And so even when we don’t vote on something, meaning if some of the legislation that goes through where the committee does a no vote, they just don’t vote at all. That means they want to do more research and look at it and then hopefully it’ll get passed in January. Well, that was looked upon as a no vote. It’s not a no vote. It’s look, let’s get back past the rhetoric, let’s get past the politics in the press and let’s get into the policy of what we really need to do. Because once you get to the root of what you’re trying to solve, because that’s what we —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, what do you think we need to do around fentanyl? I mean, it is a crisis. It’s horrific what’s happening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Well we have a $5 billion bond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, tell us about that. That we, the Democrats, put together a group of law enforcement, medical professionals, psychiatrists, drug abuse specialists. They all came together and we had a hearing. And whether it was a judge, a DA, law enforcement, each of them said we needed a public health solution to fentanyl and that tough-on-crime measures did not work. So I believe we could stop the opioid epidemic if we had better education, we went to the schools. Also making sure we had Narcan. That’s what my bond does, make sure we had Narcan in every school or in places so we can stop the overdose, especially in Skid Row, where my district is that we can stop it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And so this bond, November 2024, that’s what you’re pushing for, is that right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Yes. We were trying to get it on, obviously wanted to get it on the March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> But the governor has other things going on\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> There was a bigger name\u003cem> [laughs]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> We’re running short on time. The last thing we want to ask you about is reparations. You were involved on the task force multiyear process, came out with the final report this summer. It sounds like most of the legislative action is probably going to happen starting next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Bills getting introduced that came ideas from the report. If we’re sitting here in a year, what does success look like to you on reparations over the course of the next year?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer:\u003c/strong> And so the main the two main people who are going to be involved in it is Senator Steven Bradford and myself, we ill be pushing both legislative and budgetary recommendations moving forward through both houses and to the Governor. For us, with this being our last year, obviously we would like to get everything done, but we’re going to try to get as much done as possible, knowing the reality may be a multiyear process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Of course, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer\u003c/strong>: But we’ve got to at least set up the initial parameters, especially the easy things, like an apology letter should not be something that’s ultimately controversial. Looking at ways we can ensure that that African-Americans, especially young kids, can get into higher education. The law school at UCLA, the numbers are abysmal. If we just worked real hard to figure out a way we can get more and more of our kids there, and then we’re really seriously looking at innovative ways to be able to close the wealth gap. And it’s even harder now with the housing crisis and the housing being so expensive. But that is, if you look at what is the wealth gap between white and African Americans it is the home. And if we can start to own land, then we can go to the next step. Owning a business or stocks and bonds. But it’s a gradual thing. But the first thing we got to start is financial literacy and being able to get people to start to own and buy homes and remove those barriers from us being able to access property.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: All right. We’re going to have to leave it there. Assemblyman Reggie Jones-Sawyer, thanks for coming in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Appreciate your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reggie Jones-Sawyer\u003c/strong>: All right, thank you. 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