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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s been one week since Rep. Eric Swalwell ended his run for governor after \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/chronicle-eric-swalwell-story-22208898.php\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">multiple allegations of sexual assault and misconduct\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. 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While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:00] \u003c/em>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevara and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. Democratic voters in the Bay Area were starting to throw their support behind East Bay representative Eric Swalwell for governor. That was until last week, when he suddenly dropped out of the race and left Congress after reports of sexual assault allegations. Now, the remaining Democratic candidates are trying to catch those voters ahead of the June primary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:38] \u003c/em>And I actually think now we’re in a place where, yeah, it’s a huge win for voters to have this wide open field and have these candidates actually try to win over voters because these are very different visions for democratic leadership.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:53] \u003c/em>Today, a vibe check with Bay Area voters on California’s governor’s race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:05] \u003c/em>It’s been a week now since East Bay congressman Eric Swalwell has dropped out and also resigned from Congress. We also had Betty Yee drop out of the race earlier this week. And Swalwall was a front-runner in this race before he dropped out, right? So I guess how much has him dropping out of this race really changed the shape of thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:27] \u003c/em>I would say the state of the governor’s race right now is completely wide open.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:34] \u003c/em>Guy Marzorati is a politics and government correspondent for KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:40] \u003c/em>Swalwell was one of the Democratic frontrunners. I think most of the public polling had him kind of bunched up with investor Tom Steyer and former Congress member Katie Porter, but he definitely had momentum in terms of consolidating a lot of establishment support. Big labor unions in California, big business groups in California kind of all coalescing around his candidacy. So he did seem to have that kind of momentum. And certainly here locally in the Bay Area, he had a lot of support. There was a survey released by the Public Policy Institute of California. 28% of likely voters in the Bay Area said that they were planning to vote. First of all, that was more than double the support of Steyer, of Porter, of Republican Steve Hilton, even more than doubled San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:34] \u003c/em>Anyone at this point risen to the top or does the race still feel super crowded at this point?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:43] \u003c/em>Well, it still feels very crowded, but the biggest change and dynamic that we’ve seen since Swalwell exited the race was this huge rise from former Attorney General Xavier Becerra. Really an incredible turnaround for someone whose campaign seemed kind of like on life support just a few weeks ago, like he wasn’t moving at all in the polls. He has suddenly risen up the ranks in a lot of recent polling since Swalwell dropped out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xavier Becerra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:14] \u003c/em>I am not the shiny object. I am the flamethrower. You know, I go back to what I said about my parents. They just wanted me to get my work done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:22] \u003c/em>The things that seem to be working against him are now suddenly working for him, right? He had the resume, attorney general, health and human services secretary, but he was never really seen as someone who was maybe that exciting or change agent given how long he’s been in government. Well now suddenly like after this Swalwell scandal, his argument is I’m the steady hand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xavier Becerra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:43] \u003c/em>I am politically the son of those hardworking parents who recognizes that I have to open the same doors for that next generation of kids so that the next generation of construction workers and clerical workers who are married together will have the chance to do what my parents did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:01] \u003c/em>Yeah. It’s so crazy to see how quickly things are changing in this race. And I guess at this point, you mentioned Katie Porter, Xavier Becerra, San Jose mayor, Matt Mahan, and Tom Steyer. How are they all at this point trying to distinguish themselves at this stage in the race?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:23] \u003c/em>Right. 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She served in Congress representing Orange County. Um, but she’s also promised to bring in more independence and kind of more oversight, uh, shake up state government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Porter: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:23] \u003c/em>I want Californians to understand that when I make a decision, it’s because it’s what I think is best for California. It is not about who my donors are. And there’s kind of an established path in California. You do the assembly, you do the Senate. And I was part of a group of people who had never been in office before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:41] \u003c/em>And then Mahan, I would describe as like, furthest to the center of all these Democrats. Like, he’s running, yes, on his record in San Jose, reducing unsheltered homelessness, but he’s also running a very like, centrist campaign. He opposes tax increases. He’s instead focusing on rooting out waste, making government more efficient.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Matt Mahan: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:03] \u003c/em>The best resistance is delivering results for people. And to do that, we have to be radically more focused. So I’m really focused on execution, implementation of policy. How do we make people’s lives better with the limited resources we have and grow trust in government?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:29] \u003c/em>Coming up, how Bay Area Democratic voters are feeling at this point in the governor’s race. We’ll be right back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:51] \u003c/em>So Guy, we’re heading, it feels really quickly towards the June primary at this point. And I know you checked in with some Bay Area voters about how they’re feeling at this in the race. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:00] \u003c/em>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevara and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. Democratic voters in the Bay Area were starting to throw their support behind East Bay representative Eric Swalwell for governor. That was until last week, when he suddenly dropped out of the race and left Congress after reports of sexual assault allegations. Now, the remaining Democratic candidates are trying to catch those voters ahead of the June primary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:38] \u003c/em>And I actually think now we’re in a place where, yeah, it’s a huge win for voters to have this wide open field and have these candidates actually try to win over voters because these are very different visions for democratic leadership.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:53] \u003c/em>Today, a vibe check with Bay Area voters on California’s governor’s race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:05] \u003c/em>It’s been a week now since East Bay congressman Eric Swalwell has dropped out and also resigned from Congress. We also had Betty Yee drop out of the race earlier this week. And Swalwall was a front-runner in this race before he dropped out, right? So I guess how much has him dropping out of this race really changed the shape of thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:27] \u003c/em>I would say the state of the governor’s race right now is completely wide open.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:34] \u003c/em>Guy Marzorati is a politics and government correspondent for KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:40] \u003c/em>Swalwell was one of the Democratic frontrunners. I think most of the public polling had him kind of bunched up with investor Tom Steyer and former Congress member Katie Porter, but he definitely had momentum in terms of consolidating a lot of establishment support. Big labor unions in California, big business groups in California kind of all coalescing around his candidacy. So he did seem to have that kind of momentum. And certainly here locally in the Bay Area, he had a lot of support. There was a survey released by the Public Policy Institute of California. 28% of likely voters in the Bay Area said that they were planning to vote. First of all, that was more than double the support of Steyer, of Porter, of Republican Steve Hilton, even more than doubled San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:34] \u003c/em>Anyone at this point risen to the top or does the race still feel super crowded at this point?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:43] \u003c/em>Well, it still feels very crowded, but the biggest change and dynamic that we’ve seen since Swalwell exited the race was this huge rise from former Attorney General Xavier Becerra. Really an incredible turnaround for someone whose campaign seemed kind of like on life support just a few weeks ago, like he wasn’t moving at all in the polls. He has suddenly risen up the ranks in a lot of recent polling since Swalwell dropped out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xavier Becerra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:14] \u003c/em>I am not the shiny object. I am the flamethrower. You know, I go back to what I said about my parents. They just wanted me to get my work done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:22] \u003c/em>The things that seem to be working against him are now suddenly working for him, right? He had the resume, attorney general, health and human services secretary, but he was never really seen as someone who was maybe that exciting or change agent given how long he’s been in government. Well now suddenly like after this Swalwell scandal, his argument is I’m the steady hand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xavier Becerra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:43] \u003c/em>I am politically the son of those hardworking parents who recognizes that I have to open the same doors for that next generation of kids so that the next generation of construction workers and clerical workers who are married together will have the chance to do what my parents did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:01] \u003c/em>Yeah. It’s so crazy to see how quickly things are changing in this race. And I guess at this point, you mentioned Katie Porter, Xavier Becerra, San Jose mayor, Matt Mahan, and Tom Steyer. How are they all at this point trying to distinguish themselves at this stage in the race?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:23] \u003c/em>Right. So I think starting with Steyer, who now appears, you know, about even with Becerra and a lot of polling, he’s been by far the most progressive candidate just in terms of the policy agenda that he’s putting forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Tom Steyer: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:36] \u003c/em>Working people built this state. The idea that you can come here from all over the world, which we want people to do, to create the future, to build the businesses of the future. We want that. That’s great for California. But you don’t come here to rip us off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:48] \u003c/em>Steyer is a billionaire former hedge fund manager who has basically unlimited resources. Like he’s been on the airwaves with ads constantly. Bernie Sanders’ political group, Our Revolution is supporting him. So a fascinating paradox in Steyer’s candidacy. Porter probably operating somewhere between Becerra and Steyer. Yes, she has worked in government. She served in Congress representing Orange County. Um, but she’s also promised to bring in more independence and kind of more oversight, uh, shake up state government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Porter: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:23] \u003c/em>I want Californians to understand that when I make a decision, it’s because it’s what I think is best for California. It is not about who my donors are. And there’s kind of an established path in California. You do the assembly, you do the Senate. And I was part of a group of people who had never been in office before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:41] \u003c/em>And then Mahan, I would describe as like, furthest to the center of all these Democrats. Like, he’s running, yes, on his record in San Jose, reducing unsheltered homelessness, but he’s also running a very like, centrist campaign. He opposes tax increases. He’s instead focusing on rooting out waste, making government more efficient.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Matt Mahan: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:03] \u003c/em>The best resistance is delivering results for people. And to do that, we have to be radically more focused. So I’m really focused on execution, implementation of policy. How do we make people’s lives better with the limited resources we have and grow trust in government?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:29] \u003c/em>Coming up, how Bay Area Democratic voters are feeling at this point in the governor’s race. We’ll be right back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:51] \u003c/em>So Guy, we’re heading, it feels really quickly towards the June primary at this point. And I know you checked in with some Bay Area voters about how they’re feeling at this in the race. What would you say is like the range of feelings that you heard from voters about the governor’s race as it stands now?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:12] \u003c/em>At KQED we had a town hall scheduled with Eric Swalwell where he was going to get to take questions from voters. Obviously that got scrapped after he dropped out of the race. So I called up some folks who would register to come to that town hall and hear from Swalwell to kind of get a sense of how they were feeling about the election for governor. And I heard a wide variety of opinions. But one thing that kind of… I felt like I heard from across the board was folks, even if they had decided which candidates they liked and which candidates they were leaning towards, an overall sense of like people have not really started paying attention yet really diving in on the candidates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Shekhar Sakhalkar: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:52] \u003c/em>Okay, so to be honest, I have not been paying that much of a close attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:00] \u003c/em>Shekhar Sakhalkar, who’s a San Jose resident, he told me that he likes Tom Steyer because of Steyr’s early moves to try to push towards the impeachment of President Trump. But he also said, like, he wants to start seeing these candidates debate. He wants to see more contrast between them and maybe learn more about the candidates before making his choice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Shekhar Sakhalkar: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:20] \u003c/em>I mean, I have litany of complaints against Democratic Party, but, you know, the complaints that I have with Republican Party are much, much more grave.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:34] \u003c/em>Heard something similar from Cindy Robbins-Roth, a San Mateo resident. She likes a lot of the candidates based on their past experience and kind of has considered herself open to learning more. Ultimately with Swalwell out of the race, she says she’s with Katie Porter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cindy Robbins-Roth: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:50] \u003c/em>I mean, I think she’s amazing. I followed her career in Congress, you know, was pretty familiar with what she’d been doing, many academic and otherwise with Elizabeth Warren, you know, I don’t want to hear a bunch of stuff about how she’s going to deal with Trump. I want to here what she’s gonna do for the state and how does she, how is she going to build the coalitions that must be built?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:09:14] \u003c/em>Susanna Porte, I talked to from Berkeley. She was supporting Betty Yee and Tom Steyer. Now Betty Ye recently dropped out of the election this week. Her issue was mainly around the management of utilities. She felt like those two candidates would bring the most reform to investor-owned utilities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Susanna Porte: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:09:32] \u003c/em>I don’t want to support a billionaire, but my top two issues are the environment and economic justice, and I think Betty Yee, Tom Steyer, are the only ones who’ve decided to challenge PG&E.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:09:49] \u003c/em>The last voter I’ll mention is Dion Coakley in San Francisco, who initially supported Becerra and found himself kind of coming around to Swalwell because of fears that two Republicans could make the general election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dion Coakley: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:03] \u003c/em>You know, if there was a candidate, democratic candidate, that was sort of leading the field, then I might be supporting them, which is kind of how I was coming to Swalwell. I mean, thank God this didn’t come out six weeks from now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:19] \u003c/em>Now he says he’s giving Xavier Becerra a second chance and a second look, which I think seems to be what a lot of voters are doing in the wake of Swalwell leaving the race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dion Coakley: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:28] \u003c/em>I mean, I like Xavier Becerra’s experience. I’ve listened to him and I’ve listen to some of the other candidates on political breakdowns. So, you know, I feel like I’ve had to go to them to hear about what their position is, as opposed to them coming to me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:51] \u003c/em>It seems like folks are really still shopping around for their choice at this point. And I guess, like, do you feel like maybe people aren’t paying so much attention to this governor’s race still because there hasn’t really been a standout star among the Democrats?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:11:12] \u003c/em>Yeah, I mean, I think that has certainly contributed perhaps to voters not being super attuned. There’s also just a lot going on in the news and in the world that I think it makes sense that maybe people haven’t totally focused in on this election. I do think the Swalwell scandal and the allegations reported about the Chronicle and CNN that led to his leaving the race and led to him resigning, I think that caught a lot of folks’ attention and maybe as a byproduct. People will start focusing on the governor’s race, like, ‘Oh, Swalwell’s leaving the race. Okay, where does that leave me as a voter? 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some school districts are now providing workforce housing, as they find themselves with vacant properties and employees who say they can’t afford to stay in the Bay Area. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today, we meet one teacher in San Francisco who was planning to leave – until she got an apartment in a teacher housing complex.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12079098/when-teachers-cant-afford-to-live-in-the-bay-area-districts-get-into-the-housing-game\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Teachers Can’t Afford to Live in the Bay Area, Districts Get Into the Housing Game\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC1117496189\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, San Francisco-Northern California Local.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Episode transcript\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:54] I’m Ericka Cruz Guevara and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. Affordability has been a huge topic in negotiations between school districts and teachers unions, with teachers arguing that the high cost of living in the Bay Area makes it hard to stay here. One way districts are trying to help is by providing workforce housing for its educators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:01:26] It has improved their quality of life because they don’t have their long commutes and they also have mentioned that they are able to give more to their school community and their students because they aren’t.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:01:40] School districts are getting into the affordable housing game. And for the teachers who get a spot, it can be the difference between staying or leaving. Today, how workforce housing can help Bay Area teachers. I wonder if you can start by telling me actually about Miss Hernandez, who is she, and what is her story?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:18] So Ms. Hernandez is a para educator. She’s a classroom aid in the San Francisco Unified School District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:29] And we’re not using Ms. Hernandez’s full name because she has ongoing litigation with the previous landlord.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:02:40] We were renting a unit with my husband and we’ve been living there for at least 10 years or so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:49] She has been living in the Bay Area for the last 20 years, mostly in San Francisco, where we used to live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:02:56] To leave. The house was pretty old, needed to have some updates and so we kind of like got tired of the situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:06] Miss Hernandez’s son is in middle school and last year he started asking her, you know, where am I gonna go to high school? What is that gonna look like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:03:16] And I told him at that time, I’m sorry baby, but I don’t know, like, I don’t know if we’re gonna continue to be living in this city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:23] She said that was really hard because her and her husband at the time were kind of weighing moving out of state because housing was just getting so unaffordable in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:03:36] Sister did. She actually moved out of California. Yeah, having her move kind of made me realize, you know, maybe we need to take the step too. But then we have our son here and we were just trying really hard to to have him finish his studies here. And so it was a challenging time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:56] She says her family was spending a lot of money on rent, about $3,000, but they still didn’t feel super secure in their place. They lived in a two-bedroom in kind of the outer mission area. And she said they were tired of struggles with their landlord. They wanted to move into a neighborhood that felt safer in a unit with better amenities, but they really hadn’t been able to find any other apartments to move into.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:04:24] We haven’t gotten that lucky in the past with the lottery system. Even though we are like very tight in our budget, it’s not really, like we’re not considered low income. 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It’s not uncommon for employers to do that, but it is a little bit more new for school districts. Basically, San Francisco has built a development that gives priority to teachers, but other like in Oakland, they’ve looked at buying residential buildings that already exist and transitioning those into housing for teachers. So there’s a couple of different ways of going about it, but basically it’s just providing more affordable housing to district employees in order to keep them here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:13] Does workforce housing look like in San Francisco and what kind of workforce housing is available, for example, to people like Ms. Hernandez?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:06:23] SFUSD, about a decade ago, announced that it was going to look into creating affordable housing for its employees in partnership with the city. And it identified a piece of property that it already owned, it used to be a school in the outer sunset for this first development, Shirley Chisholm Village. They’re funding it through both the city and the district with a combination of sources. Bonds, loans, federal tax credits, and affordable housing programs. And so it’s going through the city’s affordable housing system. And it is a four to five story building, depending on which side of the street you’re on, that has 135 housing units that are mostly filled with SFUSD employees, and they broke ground on this in 2022 and it opened in 2024. Right now, a one bedroom can be upwards of $3,500 a month versus a teacher who lives in Shirley Chisholm pays about $2,500.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:40] So I know Ms. Hernandez applied to live in one of these units. What was that process like for her? How does she describe it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:07:50] She said it was difficult. It’s challenging because you have to be available and you have get things done almost within like three to five days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:08:03] Applying to this development is kind of the same process as entering the lottery system for the city’s other affordable housing developments, which, you know, she says meant a lot of paperwork. A lot of those have long wait lists. You’re waiting for a callback to apply and then you kind of need to very quickly, you, know, tour and apply and get all the right information in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:08:27] So there was a lot of units that we just missed because of that. And yeah, some other units, even though we went through the process, they never called us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:08:42] Thousands of people were technically on the wait list for this site because it’s not only SFUSD employees who can apply. They get priority here. Ms. Hernandez says that like over the last decade, she’s actually applied to a number of other affordable housing units through the city, but she’s never gotten one until now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:10] Coming up, how workforce housing for teachers is working in other districts around the Bay. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:10:23] I want to zoom out a little bit, Katie. Is this an idea that districts in say, maybe the East Bay or other parts of the Bay Area or California are also pursuing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:10:35] Yeah, actually Santa Clara Unified was one of the first school districts to build teacher housing back in the early 2000s and another district in San Mateo was one of the next to open up a pretty sizable development. Jefferson Union School District is a high school district in Pacifica and Daly City and they developed a 122 unit building that opened in 2022.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:11:06] We were seeing a staff turnover rate averaging around 25% annually. So, and with being the lowest funded high school district in San Mateo County, we had to be creative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:11:18] So Denise Shreve heads the housing program at Jefferson Union and she says throughout the 2010s, the district was losing and replacing about a quarter of its employees every year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:11:31] When we surveyed our staff, we found that the number one reason that they were leaving our district was long commutes and housing affordability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:11:49] Jefferson Union has definitely seen success. Denise said that now a quarter of their staff lives in the staff housing and their turnover is way down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:12:00] We had classrooms that were starting the school year without a teacher. We were having challenges hiring teachers, retaining teachers, and now the fact that we have staff housing is very attractive. We have had teachers that have left our district and now come back because we have stuff housing because they didn’t wanna leave our district, but they couldn’t afford to live here anymore, but now they’ve come back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:12:31] You did mention San Francisco Unified really funding their workforce housing through a combination of bonds and city money. How do they do it at Jefferson Union?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:12:43] At Jefferson Union, they actually are not funding it with the city, it’s more independent. So they passed a bond measure in 2018 that generated about $33 million, and then borrowed an additional $40 million through certificates of participation, which is a kind of municipal financing that’s kind of used as an alternative to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:09] Do you get the sense, Katie, that this model at Jefferson Union is replicable in other districts or for?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:13:17] Other districts in the Bay? Yes and no. I mean, to house 25% of staff, if you go back to San Francisco would be almost 2,000 people. So that’s a lot of housing you would have to build. I think building to scale in bigger districts is a major challenge. But in smaller districts like Jefferson Union, it has proven to be quite effective.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:45] Going back, Katie, to Ms. Hernandez at San Francisco Unified, she actually ended up getting a spot in the workforce housing development in San Francisco, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:13:59] Yeah, so last May she got a call that her family was selected for one of the last two bedroom units in Shirley Chisholm Village and they now live there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:14:17] You know, when they handed us the key and then we did the walkthrough at the beginning, I was just like, oh my god, it felt like I was dreaming. I was like, is this really our space? And then I was really happy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:14:30] The apartment complex itself is in the outer sunset, it’s surrounded by a lot of restaurants and coffee shops. It’s really close to Judah and the end Judah and it has really incredible views of Ocean Beach. Definitely being close to the beach was something really nice to have. Ms. Hernandez said that that was always kind of like a dream for her and her husband to live near the beach and they feel really lucky that now they can see it out of window.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:15:00] I mean even till this day I just don’t believe that I live here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:15:09] She said there are, with most housing situations, pros and cons, it’s still quite expensive and the apartment is actually smaller than the one they were in previously.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:15:21] I would say we probably got rid of half of our camping stuff. And then here, the bedrooms, I share a closet with my husband and it’s really tiny, so definitely smaller.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:15:35] But she said it feels like a home, like a permanent place for her family, and it’s hopefully going to allow them to stay in the Bay Area long enough for her son to finish school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:15:49] Yeah, I remember that day I picked him up from school, and then we just went to order pizza, and then, we brought him here as a surprise. We’re like, oh, guess what? This is gonna be your new house, you know? And so, he was like really happy. He couldn’t believe it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:16:02] It also has a lot of great amenities. Laundry, every unit I went in had a dishwasher. It has big bathrooms and a good amount of space. She feels like it’s a very safe area. It feels kind of like a home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:16:21] Yes I feel happy even though it’s a smaller space but you know it’s our home so we just make it work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:16:31] Well, Katie, what is it gonna take to scale up workforce housing like this for teachers, not just in San Francisco, but in the broader region where, I mean, it seems like a lot of teachers and districts are really struggling with this question of affordability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:16:50] That’s a good question. I think a lot of districts are kind of trying to figure out. Obviously it’s going to take more funding, which a lot of districts, are finding hard to come by right now. And also just making it easier or more enticing for developers to actually build this kind of housing. In 2019, San Francisco voters passed a proposition that amended the planning code to accelerate building affordable housing for teachers. But building in the city is still really hard. It’s expensive, it can take a long time. I mean, this has been a long-time coming. And they’re working on a second development, but it’s only gonna add another 75 units or so. There’s also other cities, like I mentioned, Oakland, considering a different route where they buy pre-existing residential buildings, which maybe means less of that building issue. BUT That is slow because it kind of relies on, over time, people moving out of their units and it being taken over by a teacher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:17:57] So in other words, even if you’re building housing for teachers, you’re still building housing in California, which will always take a long time. What is your sense though, Katie, from reporting on workforce housing? 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Today, how workforce housing can help Bay Area teachers. I wonder if you can start by telling me actually about Miss Hernandez, who is she, and what is her story?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:18] So Ms. Hernandez is a para educator. She’s a classroom aid in the San Francisco Unified School District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:29] And we’re not using Ms. Hernandez’s full name because she has ongoing litigation with the previous landlord.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:02:40] We were renting a unit with my husband and we’ve been living there for at least 10 years or so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:49] She has been living in the Bay Area for the last 20 years, mostly in San Francisco, where we used to live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:02:56] To leave. The house was pretty old, needed to have some updates and so we kind of like got tired of the situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:06] Miss Hernandez’s son is in middle school and last year he started asking her, you know, where am I gonna go to high school? What is that gonna look like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:03:16] And I told him at that time, I’m sorry baby, but I don’t know, like, I don’t know if we’re gonna continue to be living in this city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:23] She said that was really hard because her and her husband at the time were kind of weighing moving out of state because housing was just getting so unaffordable in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:03:36] Sister did. She actually moved out of California. Yeah, having her move kind of made me realize, you know, maybe we need to take the step too. But then we have our son here and we were just trying really hard to to have him finish his studies here. And so it was a challenging time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:56] She says her family was spending a lot of money on rent, about $3,000, but they still didn’t feel super secure in their place. They lived in a two-bedroom in kind of the outer mission area. And she said they were tired of struggles with their landlord. They wanted to move into a neighborhood that felt safer in a unit with better amenities, but they really hadn’t been able to find any other apartments to move into.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:04:24] We haven’t gotten that lucky in the past with the lottery system. Even though we are like very tight in our budget, it’s not really, like we’re not considered low income. So it’s like, we’re kind of like in the middle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:43] You spent the last few weeks reporting on what is known as workforce housing for a KQED series called How We Get By, which explores the sort of creative extremes or compromises that folks make in order to live in the Bay Area. What exactly is workforce housing, Katie?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:05:07] So workforce housing isn’t a new concept. It’s existed for a long time. A lot of universities, for example, have programs that offer some kind of housing for their employees. Experts I spoke with even kind of said this has existed for long time in the public sector, even mentioning like the company town. One expert said even back to like building the railroads, they would have to. Build housing so that they could get employees to come work for them. It’s not uncommon for employers to do that, but it is a little bit more new for school districts. Basically, San Francisco has built a development that gives priority to teachers, but other like in Oakland, they’ve looked at buying residential buildings that already exist and transitioning those into housing for teachers. So there’s a couple of different ways of going about it, but basically it’s just providing more affordable housing to district employees in order to keep them here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:13] Does workforce housing look like in San Francisco and what kind of workforce housing is available, for example, to people like Ms. Hernandez?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:06:23] SFUSD, about a decade ago, announced that it was going to look into creating affordable housing for its employees in partnership with the city. And it identified a piece of property that it already owned, it used to be a school in the outer sunset for this first development, Shirley Chisholm Village. They’re funding it through both the city and the district with a combination of sources. Bonds, loans, federal tax credits, and affordable housing programs. And so it’s going through the city’s affordable housing system. And it is a four to five story building, depending on which side of the street you’re on, that has 135 housing units that are mostly filled with SFUSD employees, and they broke ground on this in 2022 and it opened in 2024. Right now, a one bedroom can be upwards of $3,500 a month versus a teacher who lives in Shirley Chisholm pays about $2,500.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:40] So I know Ms. Hernandez applied to live in one of these units. What was that process like for her? How does she describe it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:07:50] She said it was difficult. It’s challenging because you have to be available and you have get things done almost within like three to five days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:08:03] Applying to this development is kind of the same process as entering the lottery system for the city’s other affordable housing developments, which, you know, she says meant a lot of paperwork. A lot of those have long wait lists. You’re waiting for a callback to apply and then you kind of need to very quickly, you, know, tour and apply and get all the right information in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:08:27] So there was a lot of units that we just missed because of that. And yeah, some other units, even though we went through the process, they never called us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:08:42] Thousands of people were technically on the wait list for this site because it’s not only SFUSD employees who can apply. They get priority here. Ms. Hernandez says that like over the last decade, she’s actually applied to a number of other affordable housing units through the city, but she’s never gotten one until now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:10] Coming up, how workforce housing for teachers is working in other districts around the Bay. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:10:23] I want to zoom out a little bit, Katie. 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