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She lives in San Francisco with her two sons and husband.\u003c/span>","avatar":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a261a0d3696fc066871ef96b85b5e7d2?s=600&d=blank&r=g","twitter":"@mlagos","facebook":null,"instagram":null,"linkedin":null,"sites":[{"site":"news","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"science","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"forum","roles":["author"]}],"headData":{"title":"Marisa Lagos | KQED","description":"KQED Contributor","ogImgSrc":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a261a0d3696fc066871ef96b85b5e7d2?s=600&d=blank&r=g","twImgSrc":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a261a0d3696fc066871ef96b85b5e7d2?s=600&d=blank&r=g"},"isLoading":false,"link":"/author/mlagos"}},"breakingNewsReducer":{},"campaignFinanceReducer":{},"firebase":{"requesting":{},"requested":{},"timestamps":{},"data":{},"ordered":{},"auth":{"isLoaded":false,"isEmpty":true},"authError":null,"profile":{"isLoaded":false,"isEmpty":true},"listeners":{"byId":{},"allIds":[]},"isInitializing":false,"errors":[]},"navBarReducer":{"navBarId":"news","fullView":true,"showPlayer":false},"navMenuReducer":{"menus":[{"key":"menu1","items":[{"name":"News","link":"/","type":"title"},{"name":"Politics","link":"/politics"},{"name":"Science","link":"/science"},{"name":"Education","link":"/educationnews"},{"name":"Housing","link":"/housing"},{"name":"Immigration","link":"/immigration"},{"name":"Criminal Justice","link":"/criminaljustice"},{"name":"Silicon Valley","link":"/siliconvalley"},{"name":"Forum","link":"/forum"},{"name":"The California Report","link":"/californiareport"}]},{"key":"menu2","items":[{"name":"Arts & Culture","link":"/arts","type":"title"},{"name":"Critics’ Picks","link":"/thedolist"},{"name":"Cultural Commentary","link":"/artscommentary"},{"name":"Food & Drink","link":"/food"},{"name":"Bay Area Hip-Hop","link":"/bayareahiphop"},{"name":"Rebel Girls","link":"/rebelgirls"},{"name":"Arts Video","link":"/artsvideos"}]},{"key":"menu3","items":[{"name":"Podcasts","link":"/podcasts","type":"title"},{"name":"Bay Curious","link":"/podcasts/baycurious"},{"name":"Rightnowish","link":"/podcasts/rightnowish"},{"name":"The Bay","link":"/podcasts/thebay"},{"name":"On Our Watch","link":"/podcasts/onourwatch"},{"name":"Mindshift","link":"/podcasts/mindshift"},{"name":"Consider This","link":"/podcasts/considerthis"},{"name":"Political Breakdown","link":"/podcasts/politicalbreakdown"}]},{"key":"menu4","items":[{"name":"Live Radio","link":"/radio","type":"title"},{"name":"TV","link":"/tv","type":"title"},{"name":"Events","link":"/events","type":"title"},{"name":"For Educators","link":"/education","type":"title"},{"name":"Support KQED","link":"/support","type":"title"},{"name":"About","link":"/about","type":"title"},{"name":"Help Center","link":"https://kqed-helpcenter.kqed.org/s","type":"title"}]}]},"pagesReducer":{},"postsReducer":{"stream_live":{"type":"live","id":"stream_live","audioUrl":"https://streams.kqed.org/kqedradio","title":"Live Stream","excerpt":"Live Stream information currently unavailable.","link":"/radio","featImg":"","label":{"name":"KQED Live","link":"/"}},"stream_kqedNewscast":{"type":"posts","id":"stream_kqedNewscast","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/newscast.mp3?_=1","title":"KQED Newscast","featImg":"","label":{"name":"88.5 FM","link":"/"}},"news_11732765":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11732765","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11732765","score":null,"sort":[1552521372000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"news","term":72},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1552521372,"format":"image","disqusTitle":"Southern California Edison's Power Lines Caused Thomas Fire, Investigators Say","title":"Southern California Edison's Power Lines Caused Thomas Fire, Investigators Say","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","content":"\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/thomas-fire/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Thomas Fire\u003c/a> — one of the largest wildfires in California history — was sparked by Southern California Edison power lines that came into contact during high winds, investigators said Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"California Wildfires\" tag=\"wildfires\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The resulting arc ignited dry brush on Dec. 4, 2017, starting the blaze in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties that resulted in two deaths and blackened more than 440 square miles, according to the investigation headed by the Ventura County Fire Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The arc \"deposited hot, burning or molten material onto the ground, in a receptive fuel bed, causing the fire,\" said a statement accompanying the investigative report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Southern California Edison didn't immediately return a call seeking comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire destroyed more than 1,000 structures before it was contained 40 days after it began near the city of Santa Paula. A firefighter and a civilian were killed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A month after the blaze started, a downpour on the burn scar unleashed a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11642017/why-have-more-people-died-in-the-mudslides-than-in-the-thomas-fire\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">massive debris flow that killed 21 people\u003c/a> and destroyed or damaged hundreds of homes in the seaside community of Montecito. Two people have not been found.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The investigation was conducted by fire officials in both counties along with Cal Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators said the Thomas Fire first began as two separate blazes that joined together. They determined the utility was responsible for both ignitions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edison \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11702621/southern-california-utility-says-its-equipment-helped-spark-huge-thomas-fire\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">acknowledged last fall\u003c/a> that its equipment likely started one of the two fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Victims claimed in lawsuits that losses from the blaze and flooding were due to negligence by Edison, which has said it will work with insurance companies to handle the claims. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utility is protected from going bankrupt over the disasters, thanks to a law signed last year that passes excess liability costs on to utility customers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","disqusIdentifier":"11732765 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11732765","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/03/13/southern-california-edisons-power-lines-caused-thomas-fire-investigators-say/","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":295,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":14},"modified":1552521372,"excerpt":"The massive 2017 blaze that resulted in two deaths and charred more than 440 square miles was sparked by power lines that came into contact during high winds.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"The massive 2017 blaze that resulted in two deaths and charred more than 440 square miles was sparked by power lines that came into contact during high winds.","title":"Southern California Edison's Power Lines Caused Thomas Fire, Investigators Say | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Southern California Edison's Power Lines Caused Thomas Fire, Investigators Say","datePublished":"2019-03-13T16:56:12-07:00","dateModified":"2019-03-13T16:56:12-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"southern-california-edisons-power-lines-caused-thomas-fire-investigators-say","status":"publish","nprByline":"Christopher Weber \u003cbr> Associated Press","path":"/news/11732765/southern-california-edisons-power-lines-caused-thomas-fire-investigators-say","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/thomas-fire/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Thomas Fire\u003c/a> — one of the largest wildfires in California history — was sparked by Southern California Edison power lines that came into contact during high winds, investigators said Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"California Wildfires ","tag":"wildfires"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The resulting arc ignited dry brush on Dec. 4, 2017, starting the blaze in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties that resulted in two deaths and blackened more than 440 square miles, according to the investigation headed by the Ventura County Fire Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The arc \"deposited hot, burning or molten material onto the ground, in a receptive fuel bed, causing the fire,\" said a statement accompanying the investigative report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Southern California Edison didn't immediately return a call seeking comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire destroyed more than 1,000 structures before it was contained 40 days after it began near the city of Santa Paula. A firefighter and a civilian were killed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A month after the blaze started, a downpour on the burn scar unleashed a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11642017/why-have-more-people-died-in-the-mudslides-than-in-the-thomas-fire\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">massive debris flow that killed 21 people\u003c/a> and destroyed or damaged hundreds of homes in the seaside community of Montecito. Two people have not been found.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The investigation was conducted by fire officials in both counties along with Cal Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators said the Thomas Fire first began as two separate blazes that joined together. They determined the utility was responsible for both ignitions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edison \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11702621/southern-california-utility-says-its-equipment-helped-spark-huge-thomas-fire\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">acknowledged last fall\u003c/a> that its equipment likely started one of the two fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Victims claimed in lawsuits that losses from the blaze and flooding were due to negligence by Edison, which has said it will work with insurance companies to handle the claims. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utility is protected from going bankrupt over the disasters, thanks to a law signed last year that passes excess liability costs on to utility customers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11732765/southern-california-edisons-power-lines-caused-thomas-fire-investigators-say","authors":["byline_news_11732765"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_356"],"tags":["news_21169","news_18355","news_22228","news_22132","news_22153","news_4463"],"featImg":"news_11732779","label":"news_72"},"news_11711140":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11711140","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11711140","score":null,"sort":[1544378877000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1544378877,"format":"standard","disqusTitle":"Fire-Resistant is Not Fire-Proof, California Homeowners Discover","title":"Fire-Resistant is Not Fire-Proof, California Homeowners Discover","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","content":"\u003cp>California's building codes are not keeping up with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.fire.ca.gov/communications/downloads/fact_sheets/Top20_Acres.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">severe, wind-driven wildfires\u003c/a> that are becoming the norm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ten years ago, the state passed \u003ca href=\"https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/chapter/1774/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">strict new standards\u003c/a> for homes built in high fire-risk areas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even homes built to those standards were destroyed in\u003ca href=\"https://www.scpr.org/news/2018/01/12/79756/thomas-fire-fully-contained-38-days-later/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> last year's massive Thomas Fire.\u003c/a> Now, those burned out homes are being rebuilt in the same places, under the same codes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the Ventura foothills of southern California, four of the nine homes on Andorra Lane burned down in the Thomas Fire. Almost no one expected it. After all, the homes were brand new. They were surrounded by dozens of other homes. And most importantly, they met the state's building codes for areas at heightened risk of wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nancy Bohman, who lives in one of the Andorra Lane homes that survived the fire, said she was, \"totally shocked. Totally blown away, 'cause look,\" she said, slapping the sturdy outside wall of her house. \"It's stucco and a concrete roof.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was at least one agency that suspected homes in this area could burn: CalFire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Andorra Lane is tucked into a fold of the foothills above Ventura, and the entire nine-home subdivision is in a \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/fire_prevention/fire_prevention_wildland_zones_maps\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\"very high fire hazard severity zone,\"\u003c/a> according to CalFire, the state fire agency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11711142\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/calfire-map_wide-3a7f6c5b4d39629aea9cde2177b38067d31efd1f-800x449.jpg\" alt=\"CalFire's "very high fire hazard severity zone" map of the City of Ventura. Areas colored red have very high fire risk. Andorra Lane is in one such area.\" width=\"800\" height=\"449\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11711142\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/calfire-map_wide-3a7f6c5b4d39629aea9cde2177b38067d31efd1f-800x449.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/calfire-map_wide-3a7f6c5b4d39629aea9cde2177b38067d31efd1f-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/calfire-map_wide-3a7f6c5b4d39629aea9cde2177b38067d31efd1f.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">CalFire's \"very high fire hazard severity zone\" map of the City of Ventura. Areas colored red have very high fire risk. Andorra Lane is in one such area. \u003ccite>(Courtesy CalFire.)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>That's a technical term created by CalFire, and it applies to neighborhoods on the edge of undeveloped land, \"the wildland urban interface\" where severe wildfires are likely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The term is important because, since 2008, all homes built in these zones have had to meet \u003ca href=\"https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/chapter/1774/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">strict building codes \u003c/a>designed to prevent them from catching on fire. They must have fire resistant roofs and siding; fine mesh screen on attic vents to keep embers out; decks and patios made of non-flammable material, and heat-resistant windows.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Built in 2016, the houses on Andorra Lane had all of those things. They were supposed to have a better chance of surviving a wildfire than older homes that didn't have those protective features.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11711143\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-800x451.jpg\" alt=\"Bree Laubacher pauses while sifting through rubble at her Ventura, Calif., home following the Thomas Fire in December 2017.\" width=\"800\" height=\"451\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11711143\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-800x451.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-1020x575.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-1200x676.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-1920x1081.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bree Laubacher pauses while sifting through rubble at her Ventura, Calif., home following the Thomas Fire in December 2017. \u003ccite>(Noah Berger/AP)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Always read the fine print\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the first residents of Andorra Lane moved into their houses in 2016 and 2017, few realized their homes were located in a risky place. But buried in their closing documents was a small disclosure, telling them they were moving into a \"very high fire hazard severity zone.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We flipped through hundreds of pages, I'm sure nobody ever reads the fine print,\" said Phil Azer, one of the four homeowners on Andorra Lane whose house was destroyed. \"I think I was probably more concerned about earthquakes.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His neighbors had similar experiences: only one recalled seeing the fine print.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11711152\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/screencap2-800x161.png\" alt=\"The fine print in the Andorra Lane Subdivision Public Report.\" width=\"800\" height=\"161\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11711152\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/screencap2.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/screencap2-160x32.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The fine print in the Andorra Lane Subdivision Public Report. \u003ccite>(State of Calif. Bureau of Real Estate)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"I don't think [the real estate agent] ever actually said, 'Hey, do you realize you're on a flood or fire zone, or anything like that?'\" said Bohman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The developer, Williams Homes, declined to comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So why did the houses burn?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ventura city Fire Marshal Joe Morelli thinks topography played a role.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The narrow valley that Andorra Lane sits in may have acted as a wind tunnel, funneling embers towards the houses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Really what we had was something like a blow torch going through our city,\" Morelli said. \"And even with the fire-resistant construction standards you can still have loss. They're not fireproof standards.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Researchers who study how houses burn down say\u003ca href=\"https://lpfw.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/2014_Moritz-et-al_Learning-to-Coexist-with-Wildfire.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> it's embers that are responsible \u003c/a>for burning houses down, not walls of flame.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When embers land on ornamental mulch, pine needles built up at the base of a wall or wooden deck furniture, they smolder. And those little fires can \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL_syp1ZScM\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">eventually ignite the house itself\u003c/a>, even a fire-resistant house, especially if no one is there to put them out, as is usually the case in an evacuation zone during a megafire where firefighting resources are stretched thin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The current California wildland fire codes \u003ca href=\"http://osfm.fire.ca.gov/codedevelopment/pdf/WPBC_TaskForce_2016/20160907_CSFMWUI.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">may also have weaknesses\u003c/a>, according to Morelli. They don't cover wooden sheds, carports, or backyard play structures, which can ignite, sending embers towards the house. Nor do they cover skylights that open outwards. And garage doors aren't as fire-resistant as they could be, meaning embers can get sucked underneath them, igniting whatever is inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Being new, the houses on Andorra Lane were likely some of the most fire-resistant in Ventura. But many of the older houses that burned in the Thomas Fire also had \u003cem>some\u003c/em> fire-resistant features.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to CalFire data, 80 percent of houses destroyed in the Thomas Fire had fire-resistant exteriors. And 90 percent had fire-resistant roofs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>It's where you build, not what you build\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To fire ecologists like Alexandra Syphard with the Conservation Biology Institute, it's becoming increasingly clear that houses built in risky places are impossible to fire-proof.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You can make a big difference in increasing the potential safety of your house but you can't guarantee that it's not going to burn,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her research has found that \u003cem>where \u003c/em>you build your house, not what it's made of, \u003ca href=\"https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0033954\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">is the biggest factor\u003c/a> in determining whether it will burn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And approving new development is done by cities and counties, which \u003ca href=\"http://www.laist.com/2018/09/24/why_do_we_keep_building_houses_in_places_that_burn_down.php\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">often have a financial incentive to greenlight construction projects.\u003c/a> The state tries to guide them to do the right thing, but \"at the end of the day, it's up to the local jurisdiction to protect their citizens,\" said Pete Muñoa, CalFire's deputy chief of land use planning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says it's really only \u003ca href=\"https://alumni.berkeley.edu/california-magazine/just-in/2017-10-30/burning-question-can-california-prevent-next-wildfire\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">academics\u003c/a> who are discussing giving the state more control over where houses are built in fire prone areas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They talk about that all the time,\" he said. \"'They shouldn't be building there, period,' is what I've heard a few of the professors state. That's easier said than done. Where do you put those folks? And how do you compensate them for that?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In early October, workers were almost done framing Phil Azer's replacement house on Andorra Lane. A small yellow sign in the front yard read, \"Permits issued! Construction starting soon! Ventura strong!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Financially it made the most sense for us to rebuild,\" Azer explained, because the insurance company would give him more money if he rebuilt than if he walked away and built a new house somewhere else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Azer's experience — rebuilding in the same place, to the same building codes, is quite common — \u003ca href=\"http://www.pnas.org/content/115/13/3314\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a study published \u003c/a>earlier this year in the \u003cem>Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences \u003c/em>found rates of home construction are higher in the footprint of wildfires than in surrounding areas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are not changing our building patterns to become more fire resilient if we just put houses in the exact same places,\" said Volker Radeloff, an ecologist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the lead author of the study.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They may not burn a year or two later, but 10 to 20 years later, there will enough fuel for the next fire.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But city and state officials are reluctant to do anything that would increase the cost of new housing. Yolanda Bundy, the chief building official with the city of Ventura, said she's just not focused on changing local building codes or overhauling land use planning at the moment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Right now, all the efforts are concentrated on helping people rebuild their homes, not to create more rules or regulations or more processes,\" she told KPCC earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The burned homes in \"very high fire hazards severity zones\" will be rebuilt according to the newest codes, and Bundy still considers that a big improvement since nearly all 777 of them were constructed before 2008.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Statewide, new building codes are adopted \u003ca href=\"https://www.documents.dgs.ca.gov/bsc/2018TriCycle/2018TriCycleTimeline-v01-03-2017.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">every three years. \u003c/a>That means lessons learned from the Thomas Fire will not be incorporated until the next round of code changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're constantly playing catch up,\" said Muñoa. \"We're trying to be proactive to see how we can make homes more survivable by adding additional code requirements.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, he said, regulators also have to balance safety with cost. \"Depending on the pushback we get from industry, we may or may not be successful in getting codes that we believe are going to be effective.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What you can do\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1917346/wildfires-can-attack-your-house-from-the-inside-heres-how-to-prevent-it\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">what should you do\u003c/a> if you live in a high fire risk area, or are rebuilding your house in one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Focus on the area 30 feet around your house, says Tom Welle with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/By-topic/Wildfire\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">National Fire Protection Association\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first five feet out from your foundation should be nearly bare, or only covered with non-flammable plants or landscaping. Beyond that, Welle says to \"think about where leaves and debris just pile up because of wind. That's where embers are going to go.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11711154\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 716px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/insurance-business_custom-3e7a0864663ca9930c869ac14c3e538bec3b26cb-s800-c85.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"716\" height=\"979\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11711154\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/insurance-business_custom-3e7a0864663ca9930c869ac14c3e538bec3b26cb-s800-c85.jpg 716w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/insurance-business_custom-3e7a0864663ca9930c869ac14c3e538bec3b26cb-s800-c85-160x219.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 716px) 100vw, 716px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Courtesy IBHS\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Also, when a Red Flag warning is called, bring patio and deck furniture inside, and move things like propane tanks away from the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keeping your house from igniting is really important, because according to Ventura Fire Marshal Morelli, nearly 90 percent of houses that ignite, even brand new houses, eventually burn down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of Elemental: Covering Sustainability, a multimedia collaboration between Cronkite News, Arizona PBS, KJZZ, KPCC, Rocky Mountain PBS and PBS SoCal.\u003c/em> \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2018 KPCC. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.kpcc.org/\">KPCC\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Fire-Resistant+Is+Not+Fire-Proof%2C+California+Homeowners+Discover&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","disqusIdentifier":"11711140 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11711140","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/12/09/fire-resistant-is-not-fire-proof-california-homeowners-discover/","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":1618,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":52},"modified":1544378877,"excerpt":"California has some of the strictest building codes in the country for homes built in areas with wildfire risk. 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Almost no one expected it. After all, the homes were brand new. They were surrounded by dozens of other homes. And most importantly, they met the state's building codes for areas at heightened risk of wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nancy Bohman, who lives in one of the Andorra Lane homes that survived the fire, said she was, \"totally shocked. Totally blown away, 'cause look,\" she said, slapping the sturdy outside wall of her house. \"It's stucco and a concrete roof.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was at least one agency that suspected homes in this area could burn: CalFire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Andorra Lane is tucked into a fold of the foothills above Ventura, and the entire nine-home subdivision is in a \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/fire_prevention/fire_prevention_wildland_zones_maps\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\"very high fire hazard severity zone,\"\u003c/a> according to CalFire, the state fire agency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11711142\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/calfire-map_wide-3a7f6c5b4d39629aea9cde2177b38067d31efd1f-800x449.jpg\" alt=\"CalFire's "very high fire hazard severity zone" map of the City of Ventura. Areas colored red have very high fire risk. Andorra Lane is in one such area.\" width=\"800\" height=\"449\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11711142\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/calfire-map_wide-3a7f6c5b4d39629aea9cde2177b38067d31efd1f-800x449.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/calfire-map_wide-3a7f6c5b4d39629aea9cde2177b38067d31efd1f-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/calfire-map_wide-3a7f6c5b4d39629aea9cde2177b38067d31efd1f.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">CalFire's \"very high fire hazard severity zone\" map of the City of Ventura. Areas colored red have very high fire risk. Andorra Lane is in one such area. \u003ccite>(Courtesy CalFire.)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>That's a technical term created by CalFire, and it applies to neighborhoods on the edge of undeveloped land, \"the wildland urban interface\" where severe wildfires are likely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The term is important because, since 2008, all homes built in these zones have had to meet \u003ca href=\"https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/chapter/1774/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">strict building codes \u003c/a>designed to prevent them from catching on fire. They must have fire resistant roofs and siding; fine mesh screen on attic vents to keep embers out; decks and patios made of non-flammable material, and heat-resistant windows.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Built in 2016, the houses on Andorra Lane had all of those things. They were supposed to have a better chance of surviving a wildfire than older homes that didn't have those protective features.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11711143\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-800x451.jpg\" alt=\"Bree Laubacher pauses while sifting through rubble at her Ventura, Calif., home following the Thomas Fire in December 2017.\" width=\"800\" height=\"451\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11711143\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-800x451.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-1020x575.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-1200x676.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/ap_17340708132214_wide-82a623449675f8687be5cf8a9f215f3311b366ac-1920x1081.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bree Laubacher pauses while sifting through rubble at her Ventura, Calif., home following the Thomas Fire in December 2017. \u003ccite>(Noah Berger/AP)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Always read the fine print\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the first residents of Andorra Lane moved into their houses in 2016 and 2017, few realized their homes were located in a risky place. But buried in their closing documents was a small disclosure, telling them they were moving into a \"very high fire hazard severity zone.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We flipped through hundreds of pages, I'm sure nobody ever reads the fine print,\" said Phil Azer, one of the four homeowners on Andorra Lane whose house was destroyed. \"I think I was probably more concerned about earthquakes.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His neighbors had similar experiences: only one recalled seeing the fine print.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11711152\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/screencap2-800x161.png\" alt=\"The fine print in the Andorra Lane Subdivision Public Report.\" width=\"800\" height=\"161\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11711152\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/screencap2.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/screencap2-160x32.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The fine print in the Andorra Lane Subdivision Public Report. \u003ccite>(State of Calif. Bureau of Real Estate)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"I don't think [the real estate agent] ever actually said, 'Hey, do you realize you're on a flood or fire zone, or anything like that?'\" said Bohman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The developer, Williams Homes, declined to comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So why did the houses burn?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ventura city Fire Marshal Joe Morelli thinks topography played a role.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The narrow valley that Andorra Lane sits in may have acted as a wind tunnel, funneling embers towards the houses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Really what we had was something like a blow torch going through our city,\" Morelli said. \"And even with the fire-resistant construction standards you can still have loss. They're not fireproof standards.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Researchers who study how houses burn down say\u003ca href=\"https://lpfw.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/2014_Moritz-et-al_Learning-to-Coexist-with-Wildfire.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> it's embers that are responsible \u003c/a>for burning houses down, not walls of flame.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When embers land on ornamental mulch, pine needles built up at the base of a wall or wooden deck furniture, they smolder. And those little fires can \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL_syp1ZScM\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">eventually ignite the house itself\u003c/a>, even a fire-resistant house, especially if no one is there to put them out, as is usually the case in an evacuation zone during a megafire where firefighting resources are stretched thin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The current California wildland fire codes \u003ca href=\"http://osfm.fire.ca.gov/codedevelopment/pdf/WPBC_TaskForce_2016/20160907_CSFMWUI.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">may also have weaknesses\u003c/a>, according to Morelli. They don't cover wooden sheds, carports, or backyard play structures, which can ignite, sending embers towards the house. Nor do they cover skylights that open outwards. And garage doors aren't as fire-resistant as they could be, meaning embers can get sucked underneath them, igniting whatever is inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Being new, the houses on Andorra Lane were likely some of the most fire-resistant in Ventura. But many of the older houses that burned in the Thomas Fire also had \u003cem>some\u003c/em> fire-resistant features.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to CalFire data, 80 percent of houses destroyed in the Thomas Fire had fire-resistant exteriors. And 90 percent had fire-resistant roofs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>It's where you build, not what you build\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To fire ecologists like Alexandra Syphard with the Conservation Biology Institute, it's becoming increasingly clear that houses built in risky places are impossible to fire-proof.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You can make a big difference in increasing the potential safety of your house but you can't guarantee that it's not going to burn,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her research has found that \u003cem>where \u003c/em>you build your house, not what it's made of, \u003ca href=\"https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0033954\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">is the biggest factor\u003c/a> in determining whether it will burn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And approving new development is done by cities and counties, which \u003ca href=\"http://www.laist.com/2018/09/24/why_do_we_keep_building_houses_in_places_that_burn_down.php\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">often have a financial incentive to greenlight construction projects.\u003c/a> The state tries to guide them to do the right thing, but \"at the end of the day, it's up to the local jurisdiction to protect their citizens,\" said Pete Muñoa, CalFire's deputy chief of land use planning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says it's really only \u003ca href=\"https://alumni.berkeley.edu/california-magazine/just-in/2017-10-30/burning-question-can-california-prevent-next-wildfire\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">academics\u003c/a> who are discussing giving the state more control over where houses are built in fire prone areas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They talk about that all the time,\" he said. \"'They shouldn't be building there, period,' is what I've heard a few of the professors state. That's easier said than done. Where do you put those folks? And how do you compensate them for that?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In early October, workers were almost done framing Phil Azer's replacement house on Andorra Lane. A small yellow sign in the front yard read, \"Permits issued! Construction starting soon! Ventura strong!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Financially it made the most sense for us to rebuild,\" Azer explained, because the insurance company would give him more money if he rebuilt than if he walked away and built a new house somewhere else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Azer's experience — rebuilding in the same place, to the same building codes, is quite common — \u003ca href=\"http://www.pnas.org/content/115/13/3314\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a study published \u003c/a>earlier this year in the \u003cem>Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences \u003c/em>found rates of home construction are higher in the footprint of wildfires than in surrounding areas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are not changing our building patterns to become more fire resilient if we just put houses in the exact same places,\" said Volker Radeloff, an ecologist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the lead author of the study.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They may not burn a year or two later, but 10 to 20 years later, there will enough fuel for the next fire.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But city and state officials are reluctant to do anything that would increase the cost of new housing. Yolanda Bundy, the chief building official with the city of Ventura, said she's just not focused on changing local building codes or overhauling land use planning at the moment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Right now, all the efforts are concentrated on helping people rebuild their homes, not to create more rules or regulations or more processes,\" she told KPCC earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The burned homes in \"very high fire hazards severity zones\" will be rebuilt according to the newest codes, and Bundy still considers that a big improvement since nearly all 777 of them were constructed before 2008.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Statewide, new building codes are adopted \u003ca href=\"https://www.documents.dgs.ca.gov/bsc/2018TriCycle/2018TriCycleTimeline-v01-03-2017.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">every three years. \u003c/a>That means lessons learned from the Thomas Fire will not be incorporated until the next round of code changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're constantly playing catch up,\" said Muñoa. \"We're trying to be proactive to see how we can make homes more survivable by adding additional code requirements.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, he said, regulators also have to balance safety with cost. \"Depending on the pushback we get from industry, we may or may not be successful in getting codes that we believe are going to be effective.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What you can do\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1917346/wildfires-can-attack-your-house-from-the-inside-heres-how-to-prevent-it\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">what should you do\u003c/a> if you live in a high fire risk area, or are rebuilding your house in one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Focus on the area 30 feet around your house, says Tom Welle with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/By-topic/Wildfire\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">National Fire Protection Association\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first five feet out from your foundation should be nearly bare, or only covered with non-flammable plants or landscaping. Beyond that, Welle says to \"think about where leaves and debris just pile up because of wind. That's where embers are going to go.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11711154\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 716px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/insurance-business_custom-3e7a0864663ca9930c869ac14c3e538bec3b26cb-s800-c85.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"716\" height=\"979\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11711154\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/insurance-business_custom-3e7a0864663ca9930c869ac14c3e538bec3b26cb-s800-c85.jpg 716w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/insurance-business_custom-3e7a0864663ca9930c869ac14c3e538bec3b26cb-s800-c85-160x219.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 716px) 100vw, 716px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Courtesy IBHS\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Also, when a Red Flag warning is called, bring patio and deck furniture inside, and move things like propane tanks away from the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keeping your house from igniting is really important, because according to Ventura Fire Marshal Morelli, nearly 90 percent of houses that ignite, even brand new houses, eventually burn down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of Elemental: Covering Sustainability, a multimedia collaboration between Cronkite News, Arizona PBS, KJZZ, KPCC, Rocky Mountain PBS and PBS SoCal.\u003c/em> \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2018 KPCC. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.kpcc.org/\">KPCC\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Fire-Resistant+Is+Not+Fire-Proof%2C+California+Homeowners+Discover&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11711140/fire-resistant-is-not-fire-proof-california-homeowners-discover","authors":["byline_news_11711140"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_6266","news_8"],"tags":["news_4807","news_20341","news_22132","news_4463"],"featImg":"news_11711141","label":"source_news_11711140"},"news_11710128":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11710128","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11710128","score":null,"sort":[1544059579000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"with-wildfire-crisis-hanging-over-capitol-lawmakers-start-rolling-out-proposals","title":"With Wildfire Crisis Hanging Over Capitol, Lawmakers Start Rolling Out Proposals","publishDate":1544059579,"format":"image","headTitle":"With Wildfire Crisis Hanging Over Capitol, Lawmakers Start Rolling Out Proposals | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Lawmakers introduced bills this week to improve emergency alerts and create a council tasked with wide-ranging responsibilities around preparing California for fires — the first of what seems \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709053/lawmakers-after-yet-more-wildfires-what-now-for-pge\">likely to be a series of 2019 proposals tackling the state’s wildfire crisis\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the proposals — a \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB38\">wide-ranging bill by Assemblyman Jim Wood\u003c/a> whose district stretches from Santa Rosa north to the Oregon border — would create new building standards for construction in high fire hazard zones, and create a state fund to help homeowners finance fire safety improvements.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">‘It goes back to that old adage — an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We haven’t focused on prevention enough.’\u003ccite>Assemblyman Jim Wood\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The proposals come just three months after Wood and other lawmakers wrapped up weeks of hearings on the state’s wildfire policies, which resulted in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11689873/california-legislature-passes-major-reforms-to-wildfire-law\">package of bills\u003c/a> signed by Gov. Jerry Brown. But before many of those laws could even take effect, California was hit by two devastating fires, including \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705243/california-wildfires-what-you-need-to-know\">the most destructive and deadly blaze in state history\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I imagine there will be a pretty big emphasis on this, and there should be,” Wood said, noting that his bill is aimed at preventing and limiting fires. “It goes back to that old adage — an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We haven’t focused on prevention enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers are also grappling with how to respond to blazes once they break out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, the one year anniversary of the devastating Thomas Fire in her Santa Barbara district, Sen. Hannah Beth Jackson introduced \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB46\">a bill that would make it easier\u003c/a> for local governments and colleges to obtain contact information for their residents for the purpose of issuing emergency alerts.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709037/cpuc-orders-pge-to-implement-safety-improvements-amid-stormy-meeting\">CPUC Orders PG&E to Implement Safety Improvements Amid Stormy Meeting\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709037/cpuc-orders-pge-to-implement-safety-improvements-amid-stormy-meeting\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/RS33930_111318_AW_CampFire_17-qut-1180x787.jpg\" alt=\"\" />\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Senate Bill 46 would build on another law Jackson authored, which takes effect in January and gives county governments access to resident’s contact information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first bill allowed counties to access utility bills to get that contact information. SB 46 not only gives cities, universities and colleges access to the information as well, but also allows government agencies to access wireless company records to get that information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson said she’s trying to tackle a problem that has arisen in every major fire in the past year: Most California residents \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11644154/north-bay-fires-what-took-authorities-so-long-to-warn-people\">have not signed up for emergency alert systems\u003c/a> offered by their local government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So rather than have people opt-in to the system — we’ve discovered that people just don’t — we are going opt them in. They will have a right to opt out … but we will try to automatically get them into a system, so that they get these emergency alerts in real time,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson’s bill would also let social service agencies give counties, cities and colleges information about people who are elderly or have disabilities, “so that we know who the people are that require the most support and assistance in being able to escape,” Jackson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11710371\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11710371 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1289\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-800x537.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-1020x685.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-1200x806.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" />\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A search and rescue crew member searches for human remains at a mobile home park that was destroyed by the Camp Fire on November 21, 2018 in Paradise, California. Senate Bill 46 would let social service agencies give counties, cities and colleges information about people who need extra assistance in order to escape from future fires, such as those who are elderly or have disabilities. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Assemblyman Wood’s North Bay district was also scarred by fire in 2017. The bill he introduced Monday goes well beyond emergency alerts, and would create a new body to oversee how communities plan for wildfires and how they respond once fires break out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Community Fire Preparedness Council created under Assembly Bill 38 would be responsible for reviewing local wildfire plans, developing best practices for alerts and evacuations and organizing fire drills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If we establish a council like this, it makes pretty clear that this is a big, big statewide priority — and that sends a very strong message,” Wood said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It becomes the umbrella organization for local community fire preparedness councils … California is an extremely diverse state, and having a council that can be helpful with resources and overarching policies, and then giving regional and community fire councils the ability to have flexibility to do what’s best in their communities is big part of why it’s structured this way.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The council would also be tasked with tackling one of the most intransigent issues of the wildfire debate: How to encourage or even require more fire-resistant buildings throughout the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood wants to create a new revolving loan fund that would offer no- or low-interest loans for homeowners to replace or install “fire-hardening” features. Wood said that would include things like fire-resistant roofing.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710160/nearly-a-month-after-camp-fire-some-paradise-residents-can-finally-go-home\">Nearly a Month After Camp Fire, Some Paradise Residents Can Finally Go Home\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710160/nearly-a-month-after-camp-fire-some-paradise-residents-can-finally-go-home\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/EvacueeDog-1180x776.jpg\" alt=\"\" />\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Additionally, AB 38 would require the state Community Fire Preparedness Council to develop a list of construction features that must be retrofitted, or built into new construction in high fire severity zones. These features, once approved, would be required for all homes and commercial buildings starting Jan. 1, 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood acknowledged that the state telling local communities or residents how or where to build could anger some Californians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, he said, “I think the time is right to have these discussions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not without controversy. People own land and want to do with it what they deem fit, but I also believe you have a responsibility as a landowner to make sure you protect your neighbors,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawmakers will likely be faced with a number of tough choices over fire prevention, preparedness and response in 2019. Thousands of Butte County residents remain homeless in the aftermath of the Camp Fire, which killed at least 85 people and destroyed more than 18,000 buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the discussion will be around more immediate relief for the survivors of the Camp Fire and Woolsey Fire, which killed three people and burned more than 1,500 structures in Ventura and Los Angeles Counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, Assemblyman Jim Gallagher, who represents portions of Butte County, introduced two bills this week aimed at putting more state funds towards helping recovery in the communities impacted by the Camp Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers will also have to tackle more controversial questions around wildfire liability and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11706641/californias-chief-regulator-calls-for-review-of-pges-structure\">future of the state’s utilities\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"California lawmakers unveiled the first 2019 legislation dealing with wildfires this week, with more sure to come. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721154238,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1118},"headData":{"title":"With Wildfire Crisis Hanging Over Capitol, Lawmakers Start Rolling Out Proposals | KQED","description":"California lawmakers unveiled the first 2019 legislation dealing with wildfires this week, with more sure to come. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"With Wildfire Crisis Hanging Over Capitol, Lawmakers Start Rolling Out Proposals","datePublished":"2018-12-05T17:26:19-08:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T11:23:58-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2018/12/Lagos2wayWildfireBills.mp3","sticky":false,"audioTrackLength":245,"path":"/news/11710128/with-wildfire-crisis-hanging-over-capitol-lawmakers-start-rolling-out-proposals","parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Lawmakers introduced bills this week to improve emergency alerts and create a council tasked with wide-ranging responsibilities around preparing California for fires — the first of what seems \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709053/lawmakers-after-yet-more-wildfires-what-now-for-pge\">likely to be a series of 2019 proposals tackling the state’s wildfire crisis\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the proposals — a \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB38\">wide-ranging bill by Assemblyman Jim Wood\u003c/a> whose district stretches from Santa Rosa north to the Oregon border — would create new building standards for construction in high fire hazard zones, and create a state fund to help homeowners finance fire safety improvements.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">‘It goes back to that old adage — an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We haven’t focused on prevention enough.’\u003ccite>Assemblyman Jim Wood\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The proposals come just three months after Wood and other lawmakers wrapped up weeks of hearings on the state’s wildfire policies, which resulted in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11689873/california-legislature-passes-major-reforms-to-wildfire-law\">package of bills\u003c/a> signed by Gov. Jerry Brown. But before many of those laws could even take effect, California was hit by two devastating fires, including \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705243/california-wildfires-what-you-need-to-know\">the most destructive and deadly blaze in state history\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I imagine there will be a pretty big emphasis on this, and there should be,” Wood said, noting that his bill is aimed at preventing and limiting fires. “It goes back to that old adage — an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We haven’t focused on prevention enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers are also grappling with how to respond to blazes once they break out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, the one year anniversary of the devastating Thomas Fire in her Santa Barbara district, Sen. Hannah Beth Jackson introduced \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB46\">a bill that would make it easier\u003c/a> for local governments and colleges to obtain contact information for their residents for the purpose of issuing emergency alerts.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709037/cpuc-orders-pge-to-implement-safety-improvements-amid-stormy-meeting\">CPUC Orders PG&E to Implement Safety Improvements Amid Stormy Meeting\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709037/cpuc-orders-pge-to-implement-safety-improvements-amid-stormy-meeting\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/RS33930_111318_AW_CampFire_17-qut-1180x787.jpg\" alt=\"\" />\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Senate Bill 46 would build on another law Jackson authored, which takes effect in January and gives county governments access to resident’s contact information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first bill allowed counties to access utility bills to get that contact information. SB 46 not only gives cities, universities and colleges access to the information as well, but also allows government agencies to access wireless company records to get that information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson said she’s trying to tackle a problem that has arisen in every major fire in the past year: Most California residents \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11644154/north-bay-fires-what-took-authorities-so-long-to-warn-people\">have not signed up for emergency alert systems\u003c/a> offered by their local government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So rather than have people opt-in to the system — we’ve discovered that people just don’t — we are going opt them in. They will have a right to opt out … but we will try to automatically get them into a system, so that they get these emergency alerts in real time,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson’s bill would also let social service agencies give counties, cities and colleges information about people who are elderly or have disabilities, “so that we know who the people are that require the most support and assistance in being able to escape,” Jackson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11710371\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11710371 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1289\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-800x537.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-1020x685.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-1200x806.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" />\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A search and rescue crew member searches for human remains at a mobile home park that was destroyed by the Camp Fire on November 21, 2018 in Paradise, California. Senate Bill 46 would let social service agencies give counties, cities and colleges information about people who need extra assistance in order to escape from future fires, such as those who are elderly or have disabilities. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Assemblyman Wood’s North Bay district was also scarred by fire in 2017. The bill he introduced Monday goes well beyond emergency alerts, and would create a new body to oversee how communities plan for wildfires and how they respond once fires break out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Community Fire Preparedness Council created under Assembly Bill 38 would be responsible for reviewing local wildfire plans, developing best practices for alerts and evacuations and organizing fire drills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If we establish a council like this, it makes pretty clear that this is a big, big statewide priority — and that sends a very strong message,” Wood said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It becomes the umbrella organization for local community fire preparedness councils … California is an extremely diverse state, and having a council that can be helpful with resources and overarching policies, and then giving regional and community fire councils the ability to have flexibility to do what’s best in their communities is big part of why it’s structured this way.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The council would also be tasked with tackling one of the most intransigent issues of the wildfire debate: How to encourage or even require more fire-resistant buildings throughout the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood wants to create a new revolving loan fund that would offer no- or low-interest loans for homeowners to replace or install “fire-hardening” features. Wood said that would include things like fire-resistant roofing.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710160/nearly-a-month-after-camp-fire-some-paradise-residents-can-finally-go-home\">Nearly a Month After Camp Fire, Some Paradise Residents Can Finally Go Home\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710160/nearly-a-month-after-camp-fire-some-paradise-residents-can-finally-go-home\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/EvacueeDog-1180x776.jpg\" alt=\"\" />\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Additionally, AB 38 would require the state Community Fire Preparedness Council to develop a list of construction features that must be retrofitted, or built into new construction in high fire severity zones. These features, once approved, would be required for all homes and commercial buildings starting Jan. 1, 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood acknowledged that the state telling local communities or residents how or where to build could anger some Californians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, he said, “I think the time is right to have these discussions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not without controversy. People own land and want to do with it what they deem fit, but I also believe you have a responsibility as a landowner to make sure you protect your neighbors,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawmakers will likely be faced with a number of tough choices over fire prevention, preparedness and response in 2019. Thousands of Butte County residents remain homeless in the aftermath of the Camp Fire, which killed at least 85 people and destroyed more than 18,000 buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the discussion will be around more immediate relief for the survivors of the Camp Fire and Woolsey Fire, which killed three people and burned more than 1,500 structures in Ventura and Los Angeles Counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, Assemblyman Jim Gallagher, who represents portions of Butte County, introduced two bills this week aimed at putting more state funds towards helping recovery in the communities impacted by the Camp Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers will also have to tackle more controversial questions around wildfire liability and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11706641/californias-chief-regulator-calls-for-review-of-pges-structure\">future of the state’s utilities\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11710128/with-wildfire-crisis-hanging-over-capitol-lawmakers-start-rolling-out-proposals","authors":["3239"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_13","news_356"],"tags":["news_2704","news_20341","news_24483","news_212","news_2960","news_17968","news_17041","news_22132","news_4463","news_24487"],"featImg":"news_11710368","label":"news_72"},"news_11707531":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11707531","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11707531","score":null,"sort":[1542763745000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"rain-on-the-way","title":"Rain On the Way","publishDate":1542763745,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Rain On the Way | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":18515,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Two major storm systems forecast to hit Northern California could trigger flooding and mudslides in areas recently burned in the Carr Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With one wet weather system forecast for Wednesday followed by another on Thursday and Friday, \u003ca href=\"https://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwacapget.php?x=CA125AC870FB04.FlashFloodWatch.125AC8ADF400CA.STOFFASTO.24b972a619f458a4712af52b8853f2a1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a flash flood watch\u003c/a> is in effect for many areas recently hit by wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11642017/why-have-more-people-died-in-the-mudslides-than-in-the-thomas-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Huge debris flows\u003c/a> following last year’s Thomas Fire killed more than 20 people and destroyed scores of homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Two major storm systems forecast to hit Northern California could cause flooding and mudslides in recently burned areas.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721154220,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":5,"wordCount":73},"headData":{"title":"Rain On the Way | KQED","description":"Two major storm systems forecast to hit Northern California could cause flooding and mudslides in recently burned areas.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Rain On the Way","datePublished":"2018-11-20T17:29:05-08:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T11:23:40-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"path":"/news/11707531/rain-on-the-way","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Two major storm systems forecast to hit Northern California could trigger flooding and mudslides in areas recently burned in the Carr Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With one wet weather system forecast for Wednesday followed by another on Thursday and Friday, \u003ca href=\"https://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwacapget.php?x=CA125AC870FB04.FlashFloodWatch.125AC8ADF400CA.STOFFASTO.24b972a619f458a4712af52b8853f2a1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a flash flood watch\u003c/a> is in effect for many areas recently hit by wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11642017/why-have-more-people-died-in-the-mudslides-than-in-the-thomas-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Huge debris flows\u003c/a> following last year’s Thomas Fire killed more than 20 people and destroyed scores of homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11707531/rain-on-the-way","authors":["3236"],"series":["news_18515"],"categories":["news_19906","news_6266","news_8"],"tags":["news_21959","news_20341","news_24483","news_3431","news_20949","news_22355","news_1143","news_21810","news_22132","news_4337","news_4463"],"featImg":"news_11707551","label":"news_18515"},"news_11702621":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11702621","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11702621","score":null,"sort":[1540999772000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1540999772,"format":"standard","disqusTitle":"Southern California Utility Says Its Equipment Helped Spark Huge Thomas Fire","title":"Southern California Utility Says Its Equipment Helped Spark Huge Thomas Fire","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","content":"\u003cp>Southern California Edison says its equipment likely sparked one of two ignition points for the massive wildfire that tore through California's Central Coast last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Witnesses reported flames near the company's power poles in Ventura County last December, and the utility \"believes that its equipment was associated with this ignition,\" Edison said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dozens of lawsuits allege Edison equipment caused the deadly \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/1922\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Thomas Fire\u003c/a>, but the statement marked the first time the company made such an acknowledgment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edison hasn't determined if its equipment started the second ignition point nearly 6 miles away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The admission was made as red flag warnings for increased fire danger went up across the state amid dry, gusty winds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fire officials declined to comment on Edison's statement because no official cause of the blaze has been determined. A multi-agency investigation is continuing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators were looking at \"every possibility\" ranging from weather to human or even animal factors, and the nearly yearlong probe probably won't be completed for at least another 30 days, Ventura County fire Capt. Stan Ziegler said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Thomas Fire was the second-largest in California history, scorching 440 square miles and destroying more than 1,000 buildings in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties. Two people died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A month later, heavy rains fell on hills left bare by the fire, unleashing mudslides that killed 21 and left two missing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edison's disclosure came as an update to investors but was released publicly to keep communities and customers informed, the company said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert Curtis, an attorney representing 450 victims of the fire and resulting mudslides, said he believed that Edison made the admission because witnesses already have come forward to say they believe the utility's equipment was involved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They did it because they're faced with insurmountable evidence that it's their responsibility,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Curtis' firm is one of several representing thousands of fire and mudslide victims in a consolidated suit that will be heard in Los Angeles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The announcement came weeks after Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation allowing utilities to bill customers to pay for future legal settlements due to 2017 wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Follow Christopher Weber at \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/WeberCM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https://twitter.com/WeberCM\u003c/a>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Associated Press journalist Robert Jablon in Los Angeles contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","disqusIdentifier":"11702621 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11702621","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/10/31/southern-california-utility-says-its-equipment-helped-spark-huge-thomas-fire/","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":377,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":18},"modified":1552520314,"excerpt":"Southern California Edison says its equipment likely sparked one of two ignition points in the massive Central Coast blaze. ","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"Southern California Edison says its equipment likely sparked one of two ignition points in the massive Central Coast blaze. 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A multi-agency investigation is continuing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators were looking at \"every possibility\" ranging from weather to human or even animal factors, and the nearly yearlong probe probably won't be completed for at least another 30 days, Ventura County fire Capt. Stan Ziegler said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Thomas Fire was the second-largest in California history, scorching 440 square miles and destroying more than 1,000 buildings in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties. Two people died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A month later, heavy rains fell on hills left bare by the fire, unleashing mudslides that killed 21 and left two missing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edison's disclosure came as an update to investors but was released publicly to keep communities and customers informed, the company said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robert Curtis, an attorney representing 450 victims of the fire and resulting mudslides, said he believed that Edison made the admission because witnesses already have come forward to say they believe the utility's equipment was involved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They did it because they're faced with insurmountable evidence that it's their responsibility,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Curtis' firm is one of several representing thousands of fire and mudslide victims in a consolidated suit that will be heard in Los Angeles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The announcement came weeks after Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation allowing utilities to bill customers to pay for future legal settlements due to 2017 wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Follow Christopher Weber at \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/WeberCM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https://twitter.com/WeberCM\u003c/a>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Associated Press journalist Robert Jablon in Los Angeles contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11702621/southern-california-utility-says-its-equipment-helped-spark-huge-thomas-fire","authors":["byline_news_11702621"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_6188","news_8","news_356"],"tags":["news_22132"],"featImg":"news_11662329","label":"source_news_11702621"},"news_11686087":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11686087","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11686087","score":null,"sort":[1533864702000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"news","term":72},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1533864702,"format":"audio","disqusTitle":"Lawmakers Weigh Governor's Controversial Proposal to Limit Utility Liability in Wildfires","title":"Lawmakers Weigh Governor's Controversial Proposal to Limit Utility Liability in Wildfires","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","content":"\u003cp>As 17 fires burn across the state, California’s legislature is grappling with what it should do to help residents cope with blazes. The most controversial question facing the state is deciding who should pay when power lines touch off destructive blazes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That has set off a huge political fight in the state capitol. On Thursday, lawmakers heard hours of testimony on \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11682315/governor-jerry-brown-proposal-would-make-it-harder-to-sue-utilities-for-fire-damages\">a proposal by Governor Jerry Brown\u003c/a> to tweak state liability laws.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, utilities can be on the hook financially for fires even if they weren’t negligent in maintenance. Brown isn’t proposing a complete repeal of the liability laws, but he wants to throw the question to the courts. He wants judges to weigh the benefits in each case of the electrical equipment that caused the damage against the harm caused to property when deciding who is liable for damages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a very real scenario. State fire investigators have found Pacific Gas & Electric, the state’s largest utility, responsible for 16 of last year’s devastating Northern California wildfires. Those fires killed dozens of people and destroyed thousands of homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, a representative of the governor told lawmakers that the change would bring the electric industry in California more in line with flood control districts, which aren’t forced to pay for property damage if they followed state safety laws and regulations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Senator Hannah Beth Jackson, whose central coast district was devastated by last year’s Thomas Fire, wasn’t buying it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m troubled by the fact that you’re trying to compare the two as apples to apples when they’re really not,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of her constituents are suing Southern California Edison for damages caused by the Thomas Fire, which, until this week, was the biggest fire in state history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Ventura, cattle rancher Richard Atmore is one of those suing Edison. He says utilities should have done more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They never wanted to participate in the vegetation management practices they did 40, 50 years ago, but all of a sudden they got more interested in profits than they were in prevention work,” he said\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utilities, however, argue that, as climate change makes wildfires more frequent and severe, they won’t be able to survive financially if they’re held liable for damages. They are warning that if they run into financial problems, the state’s ambitious climate change goals — an issue near and dear to Brown — will be at risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“California's existing liabilities laws weren't made for the new normal that we face going forward of these climate driven wildfires,” said Steve Malnight, a senior vice president at PG&E. “It's creating really significant financial risk to the utilities which will limit our ability to continue making the investments we need going forward\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E is taking this political fight seriously. The utility has spent the same amount on lobbying, $1.6 million, between April and June this year as it spent in all of 2017. That’s on top of nearly $1 million in political donations to key players this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown said recently that he’s trying to find a middle ground.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My goal was to try to find a reasonable balance that will reward players including utilities for doing the right thing but make them liable when they didn't take the steps that common sense and prudence would warrant,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E’s Malnight said Brown’s legislation is a good start, but doesn’t go far enough. Meanwhile, Ventura cattle rancher Atmore, sees the proposal as a giveaway to a powerful, connected corporation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think the governor's proposal is too far slanted towards protecting this huge corporation of the utility companies. They give a tremendous amount of money but just because they give a lot of money lobbying does not mean that you looked the other way when they cause a big mistake,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s now up to lawmakers to decide how to strike a balance. They only have three more weeks, until the end of the legislative session, to do it.\u003c/p>\n\n","disqusIdentifier":"11686087 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11686087","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/08/09/lawmakers-weigh-governors-controversial-proposal-to-limit-utility-liability-in-wildfires/","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":724,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":20},"modified":1533930742,"excerpt":"As 17 fires burn across the state, California’s legislature is grappling with what it should do to help residents cope with blazes. 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The most controversial question facing the state is deciding who should pay when power lines touch off destructive blazes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That has set off a huge political fight in the state capitol. On Thursday, lawmakers heard hours of testimony on \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11682315/governor-jerry-brown-proposal-would-make-it-harder-to-sue-utilities-for-fire-damages\">a proposal by Governor Jerry Brown\u003c/a> to tweak state liability laws.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Currently, utilities can be on the hook financially for fires even if they weren’t negligent in maintenance. Brown isn’t proposing a complete repeal of the liability laws, but he wants to throw the question to the courts. He wants judges to weigh the benefits in each case of the electrical equipment that caused the damage against the harm caused to property when deciding who is liable for damages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a very real scenario. State fire investigators have found Pacific Gas & Electric, the state’s largest utility, responsible for 16 of last year’s devastating Northern California wildfires. Those fires killed dozens of people and destroyed thousands of homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday, a representative of the governor told lawmakers that the change would bring the electric industry in California more in line with flood control districts, which aren’t forced to pay for property damage if they followed state safety laws and regulations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Senator Hannah Beth Jackson, whose central coast district was devastated by last year’s Thomas Fire, wasn’t buying it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m troubled by the fact that you’re trying to compare the two as apples to apples when they’re really not,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of her constituents are suing Southern California Edison for damages caused by the Thomas Fire, which, until this week, was the biggest fire in state history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Ventura, cattle rancher Richard Atmore is one of those suing Edison. He says utilities should have done more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They never wanted to participate in the vegetation management practices they did 40, 50 years ago, but all of a sudden they got more interested in profits than they were in prevention work,” he said\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utilities, however, argue that, as climate change makes wildfires more frequent and severe, they won’t be able to survive financially if they’re held liable for damages. 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That’s on top of nearly $1 million in political donations to key players this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown said recently that he’s trying to find a middle ground.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My goal was to try to find a reasonable balance that will reward players including utilities for doing the right thing but make them liable when they didn't take the steps that common sense and prudence would warrant,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E’s Malnight said Brown’s legislation is a good start, but doesn’t go far enough. Meanwhile, Ventura cattle rancher Atmore, sees the proposal as a giveaway to a powerful, connected corporation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think the governor's proposal is too far slanted towards protecting this huge corporation of the utility companies. They give a tremendous amount of money but just because they give a lot of money lobbying does not mean that you looked the other way when they cause a big mistake,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s now up to lawmakers to decide how to strike a balance. They only have three more weeks, until the end of the legislative session, to do it.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11686087/lawmakers-weigh-governors-controversial-proposal-to-limit-utility-liability-in-wildfires","authors":["3239"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_20341","news_23033","news_21774","news_5930","news_1092","news_22132"],"featImg":"news_11647377","label":"news_72"},"news_11667767":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11667767","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11667767","score":null,"sort":[1526058845000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"news","term":72},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1526058845,"format":"standard","disqusTitle":"Gov. Brown Signs Order to Reduce Wildfire Danger","title":"Gov. Brown Signs Order to Reduce Wildfire Danger","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","content":"\u003cp>Gov. Jerry Brown signed an executive order on Thursday that aims to reduce the dangers of wildfires following some of the deadliest and most destructive blazes in state history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The order calls for accelerating forest management procedures such as cutting back dense stands of trees and setting controlled fires to burn out thick brush. Brown wants to double the forest area managed by such practices to 500,000 acres (781 square miles) within five years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/GovPressOffice/status/994657825212186624\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brown's order also calls for streamlining the process of allowing private landowners to thin trees and encouraging the building industry to use more innovative wood products.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His office said a Forest Management Task Force will be convened in coming weeks to help implement the order.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor's May budget revision, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11667350/gov-browns-final-budget-could-help-cement-his-legacy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">due for release on Friday\u003c/a>, includes $96 million to support his order. That's in addition to $160 million Brown already proposed for fire protection and forest work in the upcoming fiscal year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California has about 33 million acres (133,546 square kilometers) of forests, ranging from federal lands to private holdings. Brown says healthy forests are carbon sinks, with trees and shrubs absorbing carbon and thus reducing the amount in the atmosphere that contributes to global warming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, forest fires release that carbon during burning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11667774\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11667774\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1289\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-800x537.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-1020x685.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-1200x806.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-1180x792.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-960x645.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-240x161.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-375x252.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-520x349.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Flames ravage a home in the Napa region during the fires in October 2017. \u003ccite>(JOSH EDELSON/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Eight of California's most destructive fires have occurred in the past four years. They include \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/20/thomas-fire-likely-to-become-californias-largest-ever-as-crews-brace-for-return-of-winds/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the Thomas Fire last December\u003c/a> — the largest California wildfire on record — that burned 282,000 acres (440 square miles) in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties and a complex of \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/10/10/northern-california-fires-are-among-the-states-most-destructive/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Northern California fires last October\u003c/a> that killed more than \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/31/remembering-those-lost-in-northern-californias-october-fire-catastrophe/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">40 people\u003c/a> and destroyed thousands of homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition, drought, insects and disease have killed some 129 million trees since 2010, most of them in the Sierra Nevada.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>Read More From KQED's North Bay Fire Investigation\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11644154/north-bay-fires-what-took-authorities-so-long-to-warn-people\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">North Bay Fires: What Took Authorities So Long to Warn People?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11660014/the-north-bay-fires-were-six-months-ago-whats-actually-changed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The North Bay Fires Were Six Months Ago. What's Actually Changed?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11654027/my-world-was-burning-the-north-bay-fires-and-what-went-wrong\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">'My World Was Burning': The North Bay Fires and What Went Wrong\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The governor's order aims to implement \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/fcat/downloads/CaliforniaForestCarbonPlaFinal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the California Forest Carbon Plan,\u003c/a> also released Thursday. The 186-page report, prepared by a team of federal, state and local organizations, proposes a number of measures for restoring and keeping forests healthy. They include encouraging use of wood for biomass — that is, burning it to create electricity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kathryn Phillips, director of Sierra Club California, said part of the plan is worrisome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The people who make money by burning trees ... those folks have an oversized influence in this administration,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Phillips applauded calls in Brown's order and the forest plan to research and fund forest management but also had concerns about how the order will be implemented and whether it might loosen restrictions on timber harvesting in forests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's very vague,\" she said of the order. \"This is a governor who has not liked environmental review.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","disqusIdentifier":"11667767 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11667767","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/05/11/gov-brown-signs-order-to-reduce-wildfire-danger/","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":516,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":16},"modified":1526082511,"excerpt":"The order calls for accelerating forest management, such as cutting back trees and setting controlled fires. ","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"The order calls for accelerating forest management, such as cutting back trees and setting controlled fires. ","title":"Gov. Brown Signs Order to Reduce Wildfire Danger | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Gov. Brown Signs Order to Reduce Wildfire Danger","datePublished":"2018-05-11T10:14:05-07:00","dateModified":"2018-05-11T16:48:31-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"gov-brown-signs-order-to-reduce-wildfire-danger","status":"publish","nprByline":"Associated Press","path":"/news/11667767/gov-brown-signs-order-to-reduce-wildfire-danger","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Gov. Jerry Brown signed an executive order on Thursday that aims to reduce the dangers of wildfires following some of the deadliest and most destructive blazes in state history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The order calls for accelerating forest management procedures such as cutting back dense stands of trees and setting controlled fires to burn out thick brush. Brown wants to double the forest area managed by such practices to 500,000 acres (781 square miles) within five years.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"994657825212186624"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Brown's order also calls for streamlining the process of allowing private landowners to thin trees and encouraging the building industry to use more innovative wood products.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His office said a Forest Management Task Force will be convened in coming weeks to help implement the order.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor's May budget revision, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11667350/gov-browns-final-budget-could-help-cement-his-legacy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">due for release on Friday\u003c/a>, includes $96 million to support his order. That's in addition to $160 million Brown already proposed for fire protection and forest work in the upcoming fiscal year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California has about 33 million acres (133,546 square kilometers) of forests, ranging from federal lands to private holdings. Brown says healthy forests are carbon sinks, with trees and shrubs absorbing carbon and thus reducing the amount in the atmosphere that contributes to global warming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, forest fires release that carbon during burning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11667774\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11667774\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1289\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-800x537.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-1020x685.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-1200x806.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-1180x792.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-960x645.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-240x161.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-375x252.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/05/RS29606_GettyImages-859290826-qut-520x349.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Flames ravage a home in the Napa region during the fires in October 2017. \u003ccite>(JOSH EDELSON/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Eight of California's most destructive fires have occurred in the past four years. They include \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/20/thomas-fire-likely-to-become-californias-largest-ever-as-crews-brace-for-return-of-winds/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the Thomas Fire last December\u003c/a> — the largest California wildfire on record — that burned 282,000 acres (440 square miles) in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties and a complex of \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/10/10/northern-california-fires-are-among-the-states-most-destructive/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Northern California fires last October\u003c/a> that killed more than \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/31/remembering-those-lost-in-northern-californias-october-fire-catastrophe/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">40 people\u003c/a> and destroyed thousands of homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition, drought, insects and disease have killed some 129 million trees since 2010, most of them in the Sierra Nevada.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>Read More From KQED's North Bay Fire Investigation\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11644154/north-bay-fires-what-took-authorities-so-long-to-warn-people\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">North Bay Fires: What Took Authorities So Long to Warn People?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11660014/the-north-bay-fires-were-six-months-ago-whats-actually-changed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The North Bay Fires Were Six Months Ago. What's Actually Changed?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11654027/my-world-was-burning-the-north-bay-fires-and-what-went-wrong\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">'My World Was Burning': The North Bay Fires and What Went Wrong\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The governor's order aims to implement \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/fcat/downloads/CaliforniaForestCarbonPlaFinal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the California Forest Carbon Plan,\u003c/a> also released Thursday. The 186-page report, prepared by a team of federal, state and local organizations, proposes a number of measures for restoring and keeping forests healthy. They include encouraging use of wood for biomass — that is, burning it to create electricity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kathryn Phillips, director of Sierra Club California, said part of the plan is worrisome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The people who make money by burning trees ... those folks have an oversized influence in this administration,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Phillips applauded calls in Brown's order and the forest plan to research and fund forest management but also had concerns about how the order will be implemented and whether it might loosen restrictions on timber harvesting in forests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's very vague,\" she said of the order. \"This is a governor who has not liked environmental review.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11667767/gov-brown-signs-order-to-reduce-wildfire-danger","authors":["byline_news_11667767"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_13","news_356"],"tags":["news_20341","news_21773","news_22132","news_4463"],"featImg":"news_11667773","label":"news_72"},"news_11656366":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11656366","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11656366","score":null,"sort":[1521315293000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"news","term":72},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1521315293,"format":"standard","disqusTitle":"Ranchers Sue Utility Over Alleged Role in California Fire","title":"Ranchers Sue Utility Over Alleged Role in California Fire","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","content":"\u003cp>Ranchers who lost cattle and property during California's largest-ever wildfire sued a utility on Thursday for allegedly failing to maintain aging equipment and manage vegetation in areas where the blaze was sparked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lawsuits filed in Ventura County claim Southern California Edison didn't mitigate the significant risk of wildfires stemming from its outdated equipment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The plaintiffs include Aubrey and Kim Sloan, who lost more than 50 cattle and thousands of acres of land when flames ripped through their ranch northwest of Los Angeles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Thomas fire covered more than 440 square miles, or 1,140 sq. kilometers, and destroyed more than 1,000 buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A separate suit filed last month by nearly 300 residents, farmers and business owners also accuses SCE of negligence that led to the fire and subsequent \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11653073/mudslide-fears-prompt-mandatory-evacuations-for-montecito-other-burn-areas\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">mudslides\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The findings of a multi-agency investigation into the cause of the December fire have not been released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The Thomas fire obviously has had an impact on many individuals, but the origin and cause of the fire continue to be under investigation and no report has yet been issued,\" SCE spokesman David Song said in a statement. \"This and other lawsuits are not based on findings related to an investigation. Therefore, it would be premature for SCE to comment on the origin or cause of the recent wildfires.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","disqusIdentifier":"11656366 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11656366","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/03/17/ranchers-sue-utility-over-alleged-role-in-california-fire/","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":224,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":9},"modified":1521760473,"excerpt":"Lawsuits claim Southern California Edison didn't mitigate the significant risk of wildfires stemming from its outdated equipment.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"Lawsuits claim Southern California Edison didn't mitigate the significant risk of wildfires stemming from its outdated equipment.","title":"Ranchers Sue Utility Over Alleged Role in California Fire | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Ranchers Sue Utility Over Alleged Role in California Fire","datePublished":"2018-03-17T12:34:53-07:00","dateModified":"2018-03-22T16:14:33-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"ranchers-sue-utility-over-alleged-role-in-california-fire","status":"publish","nprByline":"\u003cstrong>Associated Press\u003c/strong>","path":"/news/11656366/ranchers-sue-utility-over-alleged-role-in-california-fire","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Ranchers who lost cattle and property during California's largest-ever wildfire sued a utility on Thursday for allegedly failing to maintain aging equipment and manage vegetation in areas where the blaze was sparked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lawsuits filed in Ventura County claim Southern California Edison didn't mitigate the significant risk of wildfires stemming from its outdated equipment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The plaintiffs include Aubrey and Kim Sloan, who lost more than 50 cattle and thousands of acres of land when flames ripped through their ranch northwest of Los Angeles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Thomas fire covered more than 440 square miles, or 1,140 sq. kilometers, and destroyed more than 1,000 buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A separate suit filed last month by nearly 300 residents, farmers and business owners also accuses SCE of negligence that led to the fire and subsequent \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11653073/mudslide-fears-prompt-mandatory-evacuations-for-montecito-other-burn-areas\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">mudslides\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The findings of a multi-agency investigation into the cause of the December fire have not been released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The Thomas fire obviously has had an impact on many individuals, but the origin and cause of the fire continue to be under investigation and no report has yet been issued,\" SCE spokesman David Song said in a statement. \"This and other lawsuits are not based on findings related to an investigation. Therefore, it would be premature for SCE to comment on the origin or cause of the recent wildfires.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11656366/ranchers-sue-utility-over-alleged-role-in-california-fire","authors":["byline_news_11656366"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_18334","news_17286","news_22132","news_22130"],"featImg":"news_11650522","label":"news_72"},"news_11653073":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11653073","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11653073","score":null,"sort":[1519939005000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1519939005,"format":"standard","disqusTitle":"Mudslide Fears Prompt Mandatory Evacuations for Montecito, Other Burn Areas","title":"Mudslide Fears Prompt Mandatory Evacuations for Montecito, Other Burn Areas","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","content":"\u003cp>Authorities have issued a mandatory evacuation order for areas impacted by the recent wildfires and mudslides in Santa Barbara County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>County emergency officials said residents near the Thomas, Sherpa and Whittier fire burn areas should evacuate by 6:00 p.m. Thursday because of an approaching winter storm that is expected to dump up to 3 inches of rain overnight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officials fear the storm could trigger another round of mudslides and debris flows in communities \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/tag/montecito/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">still recovering from the devastating mudslides\u003c/a> in January -- though perhaps not as severe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/countyofsb/status/969305446845702144\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Compared to the last event where we had very, very, very heavy rain in like a five-, 10-minute period, we're not really expecting the really heavy, quick intense rainfall, but I would say there's definitely a chance there'll be some issues in that Montecito area,\" said Curt Kaplan, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The order includes Goleta, Santa Barbara, Montecito, Summerland and Carpinteria. You can see a \u003ca href=\"https://sbc-gis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=469ab8e3057a4f56aee5e3f080dc7fb1\">map of debris flow risk areas here\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11653083\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://sbc-gis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=469ab8e3057a4f56aee5e3f080dc7fb1\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/03/DebrisFlowRisk-800x470.jpg\" alt=\"A map showing extreme and high debris flow and flooding risk areas ahead of Thursday's approaching storm.\" width=\"800\" height=\"470\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11653083\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/03/DebrisFlowRisk-800x470.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/03/DebrisFlowRisk-160x94.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/03/DebrisFlowRisk-1020x600.jpg 1020w, 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