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But toward the end of my trip, I was walking out of my mom’s house, as I closed the gate, looked down the street, and saw police lights and yellow tape. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">By the time I got to my cousin’s house, a five minute drive if you catch every green light, word had spread: Marcel Campbell, a friend who we called Cell, had been killed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Considered a young OG, Cell was more mature than his age,\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> both through his fashion – peacoats and casual shoes, as well as through his temperament – ever cool. A short brotha with long locs, he’d share wisdom through jokes, shaking your hand while talking to you — simultaneous conversation and affirmation. He was yet another young person gone too soon. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I didn’t get to attend Cell’s memorial. I had to head back to school soon after we got the news of his passing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I left the streets of the East Bay, headed back to the east coast for those final weeks of 2006. Looking out the airplane window and scribbling in my journal, I wrote a poem using the idea of a bridge as a metaphor for the shaky grounds my community was standing on. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some would say never burn a bridge\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But they never tell you to check on it/ make sure that it holds\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The wind, the rain/ the heat and the snow\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The moment I know\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This infrastructure isn’t conducting\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The reason why it was constructed\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The bolts loosen/ the poles start to rust and\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Weak links in the chain\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The bridge ain’t standing the same\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Lord forbid/ this bridge/ fall back into the Bay\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Pendarvis Harshaw, and this is \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hyphy Kids Got Trauma\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While taking classes at Howard, I saw that Washington D.C. – almost three-thousand miles away from Oakland – was a world removed from scraper bikes and hyphy trains. By stepping outside of my Bay Area bubble, I was exposed to broader issues impacting the world. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And being in the nation’s capital, I was also closer to the elected officials who are in the seat of power in this country.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Not far from my dorm room there was someone else from Oakland who was also thinking about the bigger issues impacting this \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">generation, with a special focus on the people from the East Bay… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Congresswoman Barbara Lee, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I am Congresswoman Barbara Lee and I represent the 12th Congressional District.\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rep. Lee’s district is in Alameda county, which includes the East Bay cities of Oakland, Berkeley, and more. She tells me that she appreciates what hip-hop artists have done for the region. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s a really cool culture in Oakland\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">… \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And she sees how legislation has impacted the way of life for a generation of kids from the region she represents. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s really sad because this is the Bay Area and we shouldn’t have policies that allow for gentrification, but that… that happened.\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Congresswoman Lee entered office in April of 1998, Black folks accounted for \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Oakland.htm\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">nearly 40% of Oakland’s population\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. The most recent Census reports that Oakland’s Black population is down to about 20%. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back at the turn of the millennium, when I was a teen living in the wake of the 9/11 attacks on the U.S., it was Representative Lee’s vote – the sole ballot cast against going to war in Afghanistan – that introduced me to her work.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Over the years, I’ve watched as she’s championed reproductive health and combated racism. She’s fought for the rights of Black folks here and abroad, and represented her region at every turn. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While no person – especially a politician – is perfect, I’ve appreciated how she’s been critical of systemic racism and imperialism. She’s pushed for low-income housing, organized against air pollutants, and fought against the hyper-policing of Black people. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And even with these efforts over the years, Rep. Lee realizes that all of these layers of issues created a world where it’s damn near impossible for people to walk around unscathed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I can understand the environment and the context of what was taking place during that time. In terms of the political environment, that causes a lot of anxiety. And a lot of, I don’t want to say depression, but quite a bit of pessimism, and uncertainty about where this country and where the world is going. Just like now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before even considering stats and numerical breakdowns of crime, poverty and the like, we have to start with the mindstate of folks at the time we’re talking about, 2006. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These hyphy teenagers, myself included, we were stepping into the world with so much pessimism that it toed the line of nihilism. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We were told to go out there and make a living while the unemployment rate was soaring. It jumped from \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">about \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6203a5.htm#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Bureau%20of,million%20unemployed%20persons%20(11).\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">5% in the year 2006 to nearly 10% in the year 2010\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No wonder after years of a downward trend, national crime reportedly had an uptick around that same period. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To be clear, I’m not blaming the unemployed, not even the small-time criminals. Nah, I’m looking at the system that creates this environment. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Congresswoman Barbara Lee says that this country’s philosophy on violence has laid the foundation for my generation – and many generations of Americans. A lot of us think that violence is how we should solve our problems.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve been very involved in trying to prevent wars and trying to hold these presidents accountable for starting wars. And what the impact has been, I think, especially on young people, maybe like violence, you know, the government uses violence, so what’s the problem? You know, when I said the violence should not be an option, well, why does the government engage in violence? Why are there so many guns on the street? Why can’t you do something about stopping this kind of violence? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stop the violence? Yeah right. Despite the many anti-violence initiatives and peace movements I’ve seen, this country is entrenched in violence. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve gotten used to mass shootings happening on the regular, and videos of police killings circulate with the morning news. It’s a common thing, unfortunately. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think the trauma and some of the political aspects of that time and now are very concerning to me \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Man, I was concerned too, but most of my focus was on the issue of homicides, and other blatant examples of violence. I hadn’t stepped back and looked at the bigger picture of this nation. How violence is at its core; that’s how we’re governed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Prisons are violent and oppressive by nature. And that’s only compounded when you consider the inadequate living conditions behind bars, and the unjust system that lands folks there in the first place. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Schools, through racist curriculum and social hierarchies, can be both emotionally and physically violent.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Housing – from redlining to gentrification – violent. As a person who faced a few evictions and stints of homelessness as a kid, I can tell you, there are few things more violent than losing your home.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even our relationships with one another – especially those that are thought to be romantic – they have issues with violence being intertwined in everything from the way we communicate to the way we treat each other sexually. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, if you look close enough, at the root of many of the issues I’ve mentioned are violent systems of capitalism and imperialism.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s Congresswoman Lee again. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To sort through all of this, is- is pretty difficult when you’re just trying to survive and make ends meet and trying to make a life for yourself and your family.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’re a generation who was constantly shown that violence \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">is\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> the answer, it’s no wonder that we’d find it completely rational to choose malicious ways to solve our problems. It provides a release. And back then, in 2006, that was just part of the culture.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At that time, our particular generation, we would stomp your hood and we would fuck your car up and do all kind of crazy shit because we wanted to. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s Rich Iyala, a San Francisco-bred hip-hop artist who has been making music for over a decade. He can make hyphy blaps, political tracks or use agile lyrics over funky horns and cool drum patterns. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At the start of this podcast, I mentioned a piece of graffiti I saw on a wall near an underpass, on 27th street in West Oakland that read, “Hyphy Kids Got Trauma” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Those words were inspired by a more recent song from Rich Iyala, the lyrics went a little something like this:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hyphy children got trauma and I put that on mommas. Hyphy children got trauma and I put that on mommas… It turned into a chant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The song, in its entirety, is about kids going to school and having to step over drug-addicted adults who are laid out on the street. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala\u003c/b>\u003cb>:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">PTSD from the choppa got me shaking like maracas. Thought my patna went to college. Why I seen him on the block again?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rich has never recorded the song, he’s only done live performances of it. And evidently it resonates with folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s kind of like very sad. And I cracked my voice intentionally to kind of show pain. And that’s like a thing I do in a lot of my other songs to, like, convey a very close, raw emotion, like emotionality hyphy children got trauma, you know, kind of like I cry it out and I always see that it has people have a reaction, like all throughout the crowd.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even with seeing how people reacted to it, Rich was completely blown away when he saw his words in graffiti written on a wall in West Oakland.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was news to me, as much as it was to anybody else, for a while I was like, Wow. Like, what is this? Or why is why is this happening? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He knew why: people were feeling it. But the thing is, he didn’t know how many people were feeling it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At the time, I saw a few posts on different social media platforms, photos taken of the words scrawled in different locations around town.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The artist who painted the one I saw, a graffiti writer who goes by Nasty, told me that Rich’s lyrics were the inspiration. And Nasty, he did a few tags, but he didn’t do all of ‘em. Others followed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And Rich saw it spread. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was funny because I looked up and I was like, What the hell is this? And then I went downtown and somebody else tagged it there. They were taking up whole walls. They were taking up like bus stops. Like trash cans, all kind of shit\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Four simple words that eloquently and succinctly speak to a wave of folks from West Oakland to East Palo Alto, the north side of Vallejo to South San Francisco. Ask anyone, who was in the Bay Area in 2006 and was into hip-hop–a fan of hyphy music or not– I bet you they’ll have a story to tell. And many folks are just now finding the words to tell it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">we’re a generation now where a lot of us, we were able to look back now and Iike, see traumas, and we’re able to articulate traumas\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Adults now, the kids who grew up in that era, might’ve metaphorically burned some rubber [tires screech] while trying to gain traction on the road of life, but eventually a lot of us got around that learning curve.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I know I had to crashout a few times before I learned. It took years to process the idea that constantly smoking and drinking was my way of masking pain, and that “we ain’t listening” mentality isn’t always the way.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I had to unlearn habits that were personally abusive in order to be in better community, and relationship with others. Misogynistic ideas of what male/ female interactions look like had to be processed. And I had to learn self-worth outside of a job or accomplishments, but just for simply being human. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Shit, I had to dig deep to even appreciate my culture as a reputable part of this thing we call hip-hop. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t have been able to make this podcast. And still, there’s more work to do… Lots more. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But I’ll admit, it’s wild seeing the kids who used to dance on top of cars, now running non-profit organizations. Much respect to the folks who’ve been intentional about working through their traumas. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s Rich again. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There is a dope resurgence of like Black therapy popping off in the Bay, you know, and like ask, you know, I’m sure a lot of Black therapists in the Bay, they’ll tell you in a minute that hyphy shit it was crazy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You don’t need to be a licensed mental health professional to look back at that time period in this region, and know that the kids of the era were heavily impacted by what was going on. And in response, we made art that helped us deal with it all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But, c’mon man, we’re talking about Black folks, Brown folks, Children of immigrants and working class folks in the United States. There’s nothing new about making art to overcome hard times.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today in the Town the same issues exist: there’s still community violence and economic disparities. Problems with the police, schools, the media, and elected officials. As of right now, in Oakland this year, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://cityofoakland2.app.box.com/s/sjiq7usfy27gy9dfe51hp8arz5l1ixad/file/1317068327070\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">over 90\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> people have been killed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, if we were to step back and look at the bigger picture, we’d see that the issues we’re facing are very much bred from capitalist exploitation, imperialism, and systemic racism that have been fueling this country, the same issues, just remixed for today’s environment. And just like us, young folks today are finding ways of dealing with it all, while enjoying art, culture and community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just days before this podcast series dropped, I stopped by Oakland’s Fremont High School. Inside of a studio in the school’s media center, a handful of students were on stage, as they were in conversation with filmmaker and hip-hop artist, Boots Riley. This was for a video series produced by KDOL called \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Town Talks\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My ears perked up and I sat forward in my seat, listening to the second question of the evening come in from a young man wearing a Bathing Ape shirt, stylish ripped jeans and some black Jordans: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>T’Jon: \u003c/b>Hello, m\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">y name is T’Jon, and my question is, what excites you about music?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Boots Riley, wearing red jogger sweats and a green jacket, as his trademark porkchop sideburns poked out of hat, responded. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Boots Riley: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mmmm. There’s an energy… you know, I like music that makes you feel alive, and um, you know, makes you feel the contradictions of the world around you, like there’s something pressing against the way things are. There’s nothing wrong with it, but I’m not necessarily a fan of music that’s supposed to be in the background. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At that point, my head nearly exploded. For the past year I’d been writing about the contradictions of art and society, as well as music that can’t be relegated to the background. Boots wasn’t talking specifically about hyphy music, but when the question was turned around, and T’Jon was asked what he likes about music– the teenager with the fresh outfit mentioned the hyphy era. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>T’Jon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It gets everybody together, like, everybody has the energy. Just like, like the hyphy movement, like everybody, it was a whole movement- like everybody in the whole city just felt it, you just could feel the vibe. It’s like, when you vibe to music it’s good. Like, you can tell it’s good. Good energy and stuff.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">T’Jon was born on April 20th of 2006 – a 4/20 I’ll never forget. His dad is one of my best friends, we’ve known each other since the age of four. I was at the hospital to greet the family just after T’Jon was born.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Now, nearly 18 years later, this young man was reminding me about the power of the music that came out when I was his age. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My generation of Bay Area folks had so little, and literally did the most. We took empty parking lots where grocery stores once fed our families, and used the pavement to feed our need for entertainment. We took our trauma, put it on 22 inch rims and covered it with candy paint jobs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The hip-hop scene went years without getting national media attention, and when the cameras came we didn’t smile. Nope, we hit ‘em with a Thizz Face and showed ‘em a dance they’d never seen. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Bay Area created something significant out of nothing, and did so in the face of adversity – and we made it look fun. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After hearing T’Jon’s reflections, I walked away thinking about the actual hyphy kids – the babies. The young folks born in that era who are teenagers now. How can we assist them as they navigate today’s climate? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Beyond fighting for systemic changes and holding elected officials accountable, there’s a few simple things we can do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">First and foremost: listen to the young folks. Slap their music, read their poetry, appreciate their art. It’ll do wonders in uplifting their spirits, and it’ll assist us older folks in understanding their plight. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Secondly, give them space to vent. It’s hard out here for all of us, and room to process things– safe spaces– are hard to come by. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Lastly, as adults, it’s on us to work as hard as we can on ourselves, so we don’t pass down our trauma to the next generation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And if all else fails, when the world doesn’t make sense, show ‘em how to go dumb wit it, yeah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is Hyphy kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hosted by me, Pendarvis Harshaw\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Produced by Maya Cueva\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Edited by Chris Hambrick\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sound design and original music by\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Trackademics\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With support from \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Eric Arnold, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sheree Bishop, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jen Chien, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Holly Kernan, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Victoria Mauleon, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Marisol Medina-Cadena, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Gabe Meline, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Xorje Olivares, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Delency Parham, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Cesar Saldaña, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sayre Quevedo, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Katie Sprenger, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nastia Voynovskaya, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">and Ryce Stoughtenborough. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This project was produced with support from PRX and is made possible, in part, by a grant from the John S. and James L. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">Despite the uptempo party music and the perception of free-spirited fun, it’s clear that 2006 was a violent year in my Northern Californian community. But until recently, I hadn’t stopped to consider the bigger picture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By stepping back and looking at the issues impacting the kids of the Bay Area in the early 2000s, during the hyphy movement, I realized two things:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>First, those issues– violence and crime, as well as poverty, sexism, racism, and other forms of discrimination– are no different from the issues we’re facing today. Secondly, if you look closely enough, you’ll see that these issues are rooted in capitalism and imperialism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In this episode we talk to \u003ca href=\"https://lee.house.gov/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Congresswoman Barbara Lee\u003c/a>, who represents the East Bay, about her history of dealing with these issues while serving this community for the past 25 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We hear from \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/rich_iyala/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rich Iyala,\u003c/a> a younger San Francisco based artist who grew up in the shadow of the hyphy movement and wrote a song that inspired multiple aerosol artists to write tags that read, “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BhDq8RwhU7z/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">hyphy children got trauma(s)\u003c/a>” and “\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BwkH97cH-nZ/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">hyphy kids got trauma\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We also hear from a senior at Oakland’s Fremont High school, T’Jon, who was born in 2006. During a recent interview with filmmaker Boots Riley for KDOL’s show \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/thetowntalks/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Town Talks\u003c/a>, T’Jon shares his thoughts about the power of art, culture and community, as exemplified by the hyphy movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC6098869655&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw, host:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Heads up, this podcast contains explicit language.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All throughout my life, even before becoming a journalist, I’ve kept a journal. I still have every single notebook, and there’s over 60 of ‘em. Hella chicken scratch on yellow legal pads, little windows into my mindstate and notes on what was going on around me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While working on this project, I looked back a few from 2006. An entry from July of that year reads,\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Hyphy/ Metros/ Purple/ Jordans/ And Bathing Ape Hoodies/ Bootleg movies/ Turf Dancers/ speakers in the grill of scrapers/ cut the dreads off/ return to fading/ faded. Dark liquor and shit/ bus fare is $1.10/ and that 10 cents kills it/ Rather do it that way/ than to put $3.00 a gallon/ in the tank/ unless you got candy paint and dubs on yo thang/ don’t even come out to play/ I mean I mean, the word is geese/ geeks/ smirkish streets/ clean = wet/ O.G. thers = Vet/ stay safe = you blessed/ So many laid to rest, I done seen RIP on every piece of clothing except a prom dress…”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Between these little scribbles were phone numbers and doodles– a bunch of crude self portraits drawn in pen. And there’s even a “To Do list” I wrote just before leaving Oakland, for Howard University. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Muffled sounds of shuffling paper] “\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before I leave for Washington, D.C: Finish the Zeus DVD, go to a baseball game, get three fitted caps, two pair of jeans…”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of distant and lively chatter outdoors]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I spent the fall of 2006 in Washington D.C., adjusting to the weather and the social climate of the east coast. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I loved the diversity within the Black community on campus. There’s nothing like attending an HBCU. Dudes with gold ones and locs, pursuing their PhDs. Women in business suits, with Wall Street connections and fly hairdos. Weedheads who didn’t do anything but sit on the same bench stoned every day. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was cool with em all, as well as the Cali club crew, a few D.C. folks and the poets, but I was still going through culture shock. I was hella far away from the Bay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At one party I got laughed at for wearing glasses with no lenses, and in class, folks looked at me weird for rocking a hoodie with a picture of my deceased friend’s face on it. I grew homesick, and I left school and took an extended Thanksgiving break back in the Bay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Covered in hugs from the people I love, I was happy to be home. But toward the end of my trip, I was walking out of my mom’s house, as I closed the gate, looked down the street, and saw police lights and yellow tape. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">By the time I got to my cousin’s house, a five minute drive if you catch every green light, word had spread: Marcel Campbell, a friend who we called Cell, had been killed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Considered a young OG, Cell was more mature than his age,\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> both through his fashion – peacoats and casual shoes, as well as through his temperament – ever cool. A short brotha with long locs, he’d share wisdom through jokes, shaking your hand while talking to you — simultaneous conversation and affirmation. He was yet another young person gone too soon. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I didn’t get to attend Cell’s memorial. I had to head back to school soon after we got the news of his passing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I left the streets of the East Bay, headed back to the east coast for those final weeks of 2006. Looking out the airplane window and scribbling in my journal, I wrote a poem using the idea of a bridge as a metaphor for the shaky grounds my community was standing on. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some would say never burn a bridge\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But they never tell you to check on it/ make sure that it holds\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The wind, the rain/ the heat and the snow\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The moment I know\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This infrastructure isn’t conducting\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The reason why it was constructed\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The bolts loosen/ the poles start to rust and\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Weak links in the chain\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The bridge ain’t standing the same\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Lord forbid/ this bridge/ fall back into the Bay\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Pendarvis Harshaw, and this is \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hyphy Kids Got Trauma\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While taking classes at Howard, I saw that Washington D.C. – almost three-thousand miles away from Oakland – was a world removed from scraper bikes and hyphy trains. By stepping outside of my Bay Area bubble, I was exposed to broader issues impacting the world. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And being in the nation’s capital, I was also closer to the elected officials who are in the seat of power in this country.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Not far from my dorm room there was someone else from Oakland who was also thinking about the bigger issues impacting this \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">generation, with a special focus on the people from the East Bay… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Congresswoman Barbara Lee, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I am Congresswoman Barbara Lee and I represent the 12th Congressional District.\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rep. Lee’s district is in Alameda county, which includes the East Bay cities of Oakland, Berkeley, and more. She tells me that she appreciates what hip-hop artists have done for the region. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s a really cool culture in Oakland\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">… \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And she sees how legislation has impacted the way of life for a generation of kids from the region she represents. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s really sad because this is the Bay Area and we shouldn’t have policies that allow for gentrification, but that… that happened.\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Congresswoman Lee entered office in April of 1998, Black folks accounted for \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Oakland.htm\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">nearly 40% of Oakland’s population\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. The most recent Census reports that Oakland’s Black population is down to about 20%. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back at the turn of the millennium, when I was a teen living in the wake of the 9/11 attacks on the U.S., it was Representative Lee’s vote – the sole ballot cast against going to war in Afghanistan – that introduced me to her work.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Over the years, I’ve watched as she’s championed reproductive health and combated racism. She’s fought for the rights of Black folks here and abroad, and represented her region at every turn. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While no person – especially a politician – is perfect, I’ve appreciated how she’s been critical of systemic racism and imperialism. She’s pushed for low-income housing, organized against air pollutants, and fought against the hyper-policing of Black people. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And even with these efforts over the years, Rep. Lee realizes that all of these layers of issues created a world where it’s damn near impossible for people to walk around unscathed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I can understand the environment and the context of what was taking place during that time. In terms of the political environment, that causes a lot of anxiety. And a lot of, I don’t want to say depression, but quite a bit of pessimism, and uncertainty about where this country and where the world is going. Just like now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before even considering stats and numerical breakdowns of crime, poverty and the like, we have to start with the mindstate of folks at the time we’re talking about, 2006. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These hyphy teenagers, myself included, we were stepping into the world with so much pessimism that it toed the line of nihilism. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We were told to go out there and make a living while the unemployment rate was soaring. It jumped from \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">about \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6203a5.htm#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Bureau%20of,million%20unemployed%20persons%20(11).\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">5% in the year 2006 to nearly 10% in the year 2010\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No wonder after years of a downward trend, national crime reportedly had an uptick around that same period. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To be clear, I’m not blaming the unemployed, not even the small-time criminals. Nah, I’m looking at the system that creates this environment. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Congresswoman Barbara Lee says that this country’s philosophy on violence has laid the foundation for my generation – and many generations of Americans. A lot of us think that violence is how we should solve our problems.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve been very involved in trying to prevent wars and trying to hold these presidents accountable for starting wars. And what the impact has been, I think, especially on young people, maybe like violence, you know, the government uses violence, so what’s the problem? You know, when I said the violence should not be an option, well, why does the government engage in violence? Why are there so many guns on the street? Why can’t you do something about stopping this kind of violence? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stop the violence? Yeah right. Despite the many anti-violence initiatives and peace movements I’ve seen, this country is entrenched in violence. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve gotten used to mass shootings happening on the regular, and videos of police killings circulate with the morning news. It’s a common thing, unfortunately. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think the trauma and some of the political aspects of that time and now are very concerning to me \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Man, I was concerned too, but most of my focus was on the issue of homicides, and other blatant examples of violence. I hadn’t stepped back and looked at the bigger picture of this nation. How violence is at its core; that’s how we’re governed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Prisons are violent and oppressive by nature. And that’s only compounded when you consider the inadequate living conditions behind bars, and the unjust system that lands folks there in the first place. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Schools, through racist curriculum and social hierarchies, can be both emotionally and physically violent.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Housing – from redlining to gentrification – violent. As a person who faced a few evictions and stints of homelessness as a kid, I can tell you, there are few things more violent than losing your home.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even our relationships with one another – especially those that are thought to be romantic – they have issues with violence being intertwined in everything from the way we communicate to the way we treat each other sexually. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, if you look close enough, at the root of many of the issues I’ve mentioned are violent systems of capitalism and imperialism.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s Congresswoman Lee again. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rep. Barbara Lee: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To sort through all of this, is- is pretty difficult when you’re just trying to survive and make ends meet and trying to make a life for yourself and your family.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’re a generation who was constantly shown that violence \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">is\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> the answer, it’s no wonder that we’d find it completely rational to choose malicious ways to solve our problems. It provides a release. And back then, in 2006, that was just part of the culture.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At that time, our particular generation, we would stomp your hood and we would fuck your car up and do all kind of crazy shit because we wanted to. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s Rich Iyala, a San Francisco-bred hip-hop artist who has been making music for over a decade. He can make hyphy blaps, political tracks or use agile lyrics over funky horns and cool drum patterns. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At the start of this podcast, I mentioned a piece of graffiti I saw on a wall near an underpass, on 27th street in West Oakland that read, “Hyphy Kids Got Trauma” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Those words were inspired by a more recent song from Rich Iyala, the lyrics went a little something like this:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hyphy children got trauma and I put that on mommas. Hyphy children got trauma and I put that on mommas… It turned into a chant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The song, in its entirety, is about kids going to school and having to step over drug-addicted adults who are laid out on the street. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala\u003c/b>\u003cb>:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">PTSD from the choppa got me shaking like maracas. Thought my patna went to college. Why I seen him on the block again?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rich has never recorded the song, he’s only done live performances of it. And evidently it resonates with folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s kind of like very sad. And I cracked my voice intentionally to kind of show pain. And that’s like a thing I do in a lot of my other songs to, like, convey a very close, raw emotion, like emotionality hyphy children got trauma, you know, kind of like I cry it out and I always see that it has people have a reaction, like all throughout the crowd.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even with seeing how people reacted to it, Rich was completely blown away when he saw his words in graffiti written on a wall in West Oakland.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was news to me, as much as it was to anybody else, for a while I was like, Wow. Like, what is this? Or why is why is this happening? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He knew why: people were feeling it. But the thing is, he didn’t know how many people were feeling it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At the time, I saw a few posts on different social media platforms, photos taken of the words scrawled in different locations around town.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The artist who painted the one I saw, a graffiti writer who goes by Nasty, told me that Rich’s lyrics were the inspiration. And Nasty, he did a few tags, but he didn’t do all of ‘em. Others followed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And Rich saw it spread. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was funny because I looked up and I was like, What the hell is this? And then I went downtown and somebody else tagged it there. They were taking up whole walls. They were taking up like bus stops. Like trash cans, all kind of shit\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Four simple words that eloquently and succinctly speak to a wave of folks from West Oakland to East Palo Alto, the north side of Vallejo to South San Francisco. Ask anyone, who was in the Bay Area in 2006 and was into hip-hop–a fan of hyphy music or not– I bet you they’ll have a story to tell. And many folks are just now finding the words to tell it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">we’re a generation now where a lot of us, we were able to look back now and Iike, see traumas, and we’re able to articulate traumas\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Adults now, the kids who grew up in that era, might’ve metaphorically burned some rubber [tires screech] while trying to gain traction on the road of life, but eventually a lot of us got around that learning curve.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I know I had to crashout a few times before I learned. It took years to process the idea that constantly smoking and drinking was my way of masking pain, and that “we ain’t listening” mentality isn’t always the way.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I had to unlearn habits that were personally abusive in order to be in better community, and relationship with others. Misogynistic ideas of what male/ female interactions look like had to be processed. And I had to learn self-worth outside of a job or accomplishments, but just for simply being human. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Shit, I had to dig deep to even appreciate my culture as a reputable part of this thing we call hip-hop. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t have been able to make this podcast. And still, there’s more work to do… Lots more. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But I’ll admit, it’s wild seeing the kids who used to dance on top of cars, now running non-profit organizations. Much respect to the folks who’ve been intentional about working through their traumas. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s Rich again. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There is a dope resurgence of like Black therapy popping off in the Bay, you know, and like ask, you know, I’m sure a lot of Black therapists in the Bay, they’ll tell you in a minute that hyphy shit it was crazy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You don’t need to be a licensed mental health professional to look back at that time period in this region, and know that the kids of the era were heavily impacted by what was going on. And in response, we made art that helped us deal with it all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But, c’mon man, we’re talking about Black folks, Brown folks, Children of immigrants and working class folks in the United States. There’s nothing new about making art to overcome hard times.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today in the Town the same issues exist: there’s still community violence and economic disparities. Problems with the police, schools, the media, and elected officials. As of right now, in Oakland this year, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://cityofoakland2.app.box.com/s/sjiq7usfy27gy9dfe51hp8arz5l1ixad/file/1317068327070\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">over 90\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> people have been killed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, if we were to step back and look at the bigger picture, we’d see that the issues we’re facing are very much bred from capitalist exploitation, imperialism, and systemic racism that have been fueling this country, the same issues, just remixed for today’s environment. And just like us, young folks today are finding ways of dealing with it all, while enjoying art, culture and community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just days before this podcast series dropped, I stopped by Oakland’s Fremont High School. Inside of a studio in the school’s media center, a handful of students were on stage, as they were in conversation with filmmaker and hip-hop artist, Boots Riley. This was for a video series produced by KDOL called \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Town Talks\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My ears perked up and I sat forward in my seat, listening to the second question of the evening come in from a young man wearing a Bathing Ape shirt, stylish ripped jeans and some black Jordans: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>T’Jon: \u003c/b>Hello, m\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">y name is T’Jon, and my question is, what excites you about music?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Boots Riley, wearing red jogger sweats and a green jacket, as his trademark porkchop sideburns poked out of hat, responded. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Boots Riley: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mmmm. There’s an energy… you know, I like music that makes you feel alive, and um, you know, makes you feel the contradictions of the world around you, like there’s something pressing against the way things are. There’s nothing wrong with it, but I’m not necessarily a fan of music that’s supposed to be in the background. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At that point, my head nearly exploded. For the past year I’d been writing about the contradictions of art and society, as well as music that can’t be relegated to the background. Boots wasn’t talking specifically about hyphy music, but when the question was turned around, and T’Jon was asked what he likes about music– the teenager with the fresh outfit mentioned the hyphy era. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>T’Jon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It gets everybody together, like, everybody has the energy. Just like, like the hyphy movement, like everybody, it was a whole movement- like everybody in the whole city just felt it, you just could feel the vibe. It’s like, when you vibe to music it’s good. Like, you can tell it’s good. Good energy and stuff.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">T’Jon was born on April 20th of 2006 – a 4/20 I’ll never forget. His dad is one of my best friends, we’ve known each other since the age of four. I was at the hospital to greet the family just after T’Jon was born.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Now, nearly 18 years later, this young man was reminding me about the power of the music that came out when I was his age. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My generation of Bay Area folks had so little, and literally did the most. We took empty parking lots where grocery stores once fed our families, and used the pavement to feed our need for entertainment. We took our trauma, put it on 22 inch rims and covered it with candy paint jobs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The hip-hop scene went years without getting national media attention, and when the cameras came we didn’t smile. Nope, we hit ‘em with a Thizz Face and showed ‘em a dance they’d never seen. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Bay Area created something significant out of nothing, and did so in the face of adversity – and we made it look fun. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After hearing T’Jon’s reflections, I walked away thinking about the actual hyphy kids – the babies. The young folks born in that era who are teenagers now. How can we assist them as they navigate today’s climate? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Beyond fighting for systemic changes and holding elected officials accountable, there’s a few simple things we can do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">First and foremost: listen to the young folks. Slap their music, read their poetry, appreciate their art. It’ll do wonders in uplifting their spirits, and it’ll assist us older folks in understanding their plight. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Secondly, give them space to vent. It’s hard out here for all of us, and room to process things– safe spaces– are hard to come by. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Lastly, as adults, it’s on us to work as hard as we can on ourselves, so we don’t pass down our trauma to the next generation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And if all else fails, when the world doesn’t make sense, show ‘em how to go dumb wit it, yeah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is Hyphy kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hosted by me, Pendarvis Harshaw\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Produced by Maya Cueva\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Edited by Chris Hambrick\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sound design and original music by\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Trackademics\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With support from \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Eric Arnold, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sheree Bishop, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jen Chien, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Holly Kernan, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Victoria Mauleon, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Marisol Medina-Cadena, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Gabe Meline, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Xorje Olivares, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Delency Parham, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Cesar Saldaña, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sayre Quevedo, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Katie Sprenger, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nastia Voynovskaya, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">and Ryce Stoughtenborough. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This project was produced with support from PRX and is made possible, in part, by a grant from the John S. and James L. 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Find more at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/bayareahiphop\">BayAreaHipHop.com\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">RIP to Marcel Campbell, and so many more. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Until next time, peace. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003cem>Rightnowish is an arts and culture podcast produced at KQED. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the early 2000s, the underground DVD business was a major conduit of culture. Through films I purchased from my neighborhood independent DVD retailer, I got insight into the backstory of hip-hop artists and street culture all across the United States.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One of the films that showcased some of the overlooked inner-city Black communities of this country during that time period, \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3952526/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hood 2 Hood: The Blockumentary\u003c/a>\u003c/em>, also included an early depiction of hyphy culture as I knew it to be — hyper aggressive.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the “hyphy movement” spread in years to come, the way the culture was shown deviated drastically from the origins of the term. It was made palatable for mainstream audiences and sellable for record labels. A lot of people outside of the region, and even people within the Bay Area, grew to think of hyphy as more comical than militant. And with that, some of the artists began to cater to that image, almost becoming caricatures themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As an avid Bay Area hip-hop consumer, this impacted me directly. But the people who were working behind the scenes, making media and contributing to the culture, were hit even harder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In this episode, filmmaker \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/cashoutrichkid/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Aquis “Cash Out Quis” Bryant\u003c/a> discusses the era before hyphy went nationwide. Mac Dre’s former manager \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/seasidestretch/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chioke “Seaside Stretch” McCoy\u003c/a> shares insight on how Dre’s murder pushed the culture into the spotlight; and how the industry subsequently took the “hyphy movement” and ran with it. And \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/ritaforte/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rita Forte\u003c/a>, a former radio host known as DJ Backside, opens up about the highs of taking the hyphy sound around the world, and the lows of seeing her DJ career come crashing down after a bad experience working for a local radio station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC3978396932&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003cbr>\n \u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw, host: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Heads up, this podcast contains explicit language.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the early 2000s, the “Independent” DVD business was booming, discs were being sold in barbershops and train stations around the country. I’d get mine from a set of twin brothers who used to slang burnt CDs and DVDs on the corner of Alcatraz and Market street in North Oakland.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All I needed was a few bucks and I could purchase anything they had– animated children’s movies, raunchy adult flicks or even blockbuster films. But what caught my attention were the underground documentaries about hip-hop and the streets of America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Locally, there were joints like Go Dumb USA, Oakland Gone Wild, and High Side’N 1 & 2. These films took viewers to a world not readily shown in the mainstream or silver screen, which gave insight to stories of street culture in America. I loved that kind of media. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But, as a young journalist, that wasn’t the kind of media I was making. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even if I was talking about similar topics, my work was a little more, um, mainstream. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2006, through Oakland’s Youth Radio, I wrote and published an audio commentary for National Public Radio. It was about the cycle of birth and death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Radio Announcer:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Youth Radio’s Pendarvis Harshaw says the problems are all related.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My commentary was partially inspired by my friend Willie Clay, who had been killed in January of that year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Clip of Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Will was my boy, and to be putting on a button-up and these hard-bottom shoes to put him in a casket, it just didn’t seem real.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>I was proud to honor a friend’s story on national airwaves. And, at the same time, I was hella frustrated: none of the homies were going to hear it. You’d be farfetched to find a group of teenage Black men riding around slappin’ their local NPR station. I felt confined. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was doing stories about my community, but they were being made palatable for predominantly white middle class audiences. I wanted to tell stories that would be on the local hip-hop radio station, or on BET. I wanted to make a hood classic, like the bootleg DVDs people were selling. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But, I didn’t have a lane for that. So, I was using what channels I had to tell stories of what I was experiencing. And I was just one of the many folks in my circle trying to make note of what was happening around us. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back then some of my Youth Radio folks did a piece for NPR all about the Hyphy Movement. This one featured my longtime friend, well-known Oakland-based educator and event host, Leon Sykes:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leon Sykes, in clip\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: The hyphy movement is an act of free living. It’s like having the Holy Ghost. Something just comes over you. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, Leon talked about the spirit and… some of that goofy stuff too. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leon Sykes, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You can’t stop, you hear a song, we get hyphy to Mary Had a Little Lamb,\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Mary Had a Little Lamb plays for a few seconds, before being interrupted by a record scratch]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, a lil comical. But it was dope to hear my patnas talk about an aspect of our region’s hip-hop culture on a national program. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that story was one of a handful of pieces that came from national outlets– from your MTVs and BETs, to print publications like XXL, USA Today, The Los Angeles Times and The Guardian– they all did specials on the hyphy movement. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After years of neglect and underreporting from major media platforms, the Bay Area’s hip-hop scene was once again in the limelight. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But when the hyphy movement went mainstream, it changed things. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that’s what capitalism does to culture, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Pendarvis Harshaw, and this is Hyphy Kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> First time I saw “hyphy” in the media was on those hood DVDs from the early 2000s, and it looked a lot different than the national depiction. There was a film series that originally debuted in 2004 named Hood 2 Hood: The Blockumentary. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Clip from \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez2F9H0Vrcs&t=4648s\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hood 2 Hood\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> plays]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">America is a cold place, everywhere you go, it’s the same. The only thing that changes is the slang a muthafucka talks and the weather a muthafucka’s getting money in. Coast to coast, street to street, projects to projects. War to war, zone to zone, side to side, hood to hood this is the blockumentary.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The movies featured the grimiest hoods, the biggest guns, and the heaviest regional accents. There was rapping, fashion, cars, drugs, and more.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hood 2 Hood changed everything for me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In addition to showing me what was happening in the neighborhoods all around this country, the footage on the double disc DVD showed the streets of the Bay Area as I knew them to be: fast, hyperactive, and enticingly dangerous.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was so juiced when I found out this film, a portal into what was going on in pockets of Milwaukee, Baltimore, Memphis and more, was created by someone from the Bay Area. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I was going to Black neighborhoods. I was going to low income neighborhoods. I was going to the highest crime rated neighborhoods.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s filmmaker Aquis Bryant, aka Cash Out Quis.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s a stocky brown brotha, who’s bald with low-cut facial hair, raised on the west coast of the United States in the mighty town of Vallejo, California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Quis tells me during a recent phone call, that back in the day when he was making this film, he didn’t really have a goal beyond just trying to see how people were \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">getting it\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> all across the United States. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The only way you could see how a person was living was to actually go there and see with your own two eyes. It was where, back then, you know, each different region, each different city, everybody had their own particular fashion and slang because the Internet wasn’t merging things. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So Quis left Northern California to document what was really happening in working class Black communities around the country. And people let their guard down and showed him things that were going on in their hoods, And Quis captured it on camera,while carrying our region with him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Man bringing that Bay Area flag, I was received well, for the simple fact that, you know, the Bay Area is one of the only, like regions in the United States of America that’s not gang banging, as far as like Bloods and Crips.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I slid around the country neutral, you know what I’m saying. I didn’t have any ties to anything that could have been opposing. You know what I mean? Then on top of that, I kept me a nice sized sack of that California weed, that was, you know what I’m saying, is a plus\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At that time, you know, purple was hot. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, speaking of weed, the content of the films: drugs, guns and all of that, it toed the line of self incrimination. But in reality, Quis was simply going to places where cameras aren’t often rolling, and people were eager to show him how they were living. \u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Clip from Hood 2 Hood]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hell yeah, here ya’ll from man?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Person 1, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Check this out mayne, this is yo number one player, Ed Lover from Milton Street. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Person 2, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Respect it or accept it, cause you ain’t gon’ check it. On my momma. Three fingers. You see it. \u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was like a first of its kind since it was pre YouTube. It was like a whole, like, generation of people that that was their first time traveling out of their areas \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I personally needed to see those other neighborhoods. Through this documentary I saw glimpses of spots like Little Rock, Omaha and Gary, Indiana, locations I’d heard about, but I couldn’t tell you anything about. It made me feel connected. Like, their hood is just like our hood. And their stories aren’t getting widely told either. And the Bay isn’t the only slept on region. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even if it was a bit sensational, it was dope to see my area mentioned as a part of this bigger story of hip-hop and street culture in America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The first of Quis’ three-part Hood 2 Hood documentary series was filmed a few years prior to the explosion of the quote “hyphy movement.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It shows what “hyphy” was before it became mainstream enough to be mentioned on NPR. And unfortunately, like many things in popular culture, it took a tragic incident to get the hyphy movement on the national map… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On Halloween night 2004, Andre Hicks, beloved rapper known to fans and loved ones as Mac Dre, was killed after performing at a show in Kansas City, Missouri. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">His death led to him becoming the patron saint of the hyphy movement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music – Thizzle Dance by Mac Dre]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To this day, when his music comes on, people turn hands to form T’s and Thizz dance in his honor. “Do it for Mac Dre,” is a battle cry.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">His life’s story is legendary: after achieving early stardom as a rapper in the late 80s and early 90s, he was sent to prison for conspiracy to rob a bank. He didn’t budge when pushed to snitch on his comrades. And after he was released, he reinvented himself and made music that impacted a generation of kids of all races from this region. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Quis says Dre’s passing kicked off a new chapter in the story of the Bay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The hyphy stuff really starts like we had been doing it, but it didn’t really get on like a national, national scene until like after Dre died, it was picking up steam… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mac Dre’s music was foundational. And the photos and videos his Thizz Nation camp produced gave visuals to culture of the Bay Area. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Quis looks at Mac Dre’s Treal TV 1 and Treal TV 2 as landmark films of that era.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah man, it was just a build up and then, you know, it start like, bringing our culture to, like, the forefront.you know what I mean?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The news of Mac Dre’s death sent a wave of grief through the Bay, but no one felt it like the folks inside of Dre’s camp. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mac Dre, before his passing, it was just– he was, he was releasing music at a different pace than everybody else.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s Chioke McCoy, aka Seaside Stretch, a promoter and manager who’s worked with a little bit of everybody, from San Francisco’s pop star 24k Goldn to one of Atlanta’s coldest lyricists and political activists, Killer Mike. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Stretch started off working with Mac Dre after a chance meeting on a flight from Vegas back to the Bay. The two linked there, but didn’t become formal partners until a few years later. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was literally when Thizz entertainment started. So that was somewhere around – formerly working with him – somewhere around like 2002, 2003.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stretch started with promoting for Mac Dre, and over the years he’s worked with the motherload of artists from Northern California. In 2006, Stretch was focused on working with North Oakland’s Mistah F.A.B. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Things were active in the Bay musically back then, but Stretch says the culture didn’t make sense to outsiders. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I think that at the time everybody felt as if the bay was being ignored, blackballed, hated on, or whatever. But in reality, the Bay Area was just going to its own beat of its own drum, didn’t play by anybody else’s rules, didn’t kiss no ass, didn’t do any of the things that other people would do to get on. Meaning that like Bay artists weren’t moving to New York or moving to L.A. or like Atlanta. They wasn’t doing none of that. They was waiting for people to come to the Bay. And I think that at the time it was like, ‘well, if they don’t fuck with us, then we’ll just do our own thing.’ So I think the 2006 was a culmination of doing your own thing and it paying off where you were not not concerned with what was going on on the outside.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Stretch says that the term “hyphy”, commercially, wasn’t reflective of what was happening in neighborhoods across Northern California. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was presented in a way that would be more friendly to everybody. You know what I mean? Just the term “hyphy,” was, it meant something completely different than what it was commercialized as. You know what I mean? It it wasn’t a good thing, you know what I’m saying? Like, they didn’t say like, ‘Oh, them kids is hyphy, and that meant that they were just dancing around having a good time.’ No, that meant that they were destructive and violent, you know what I am saying? So, I think that, you know, it was marketed in the way that, you know, that corporations do to sell a product, which was the music so… That’s the results of what people seen and what people lived were two different things. But I think it became a self-fulfilling prophecy where the people who were a part of the culture ended up changing things to fit what was sellable.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stretch says the first time he even heard the term “hyphy movement” was through a marketing scheme Warner Brothers put together for the Fairfield-based group, The Federation. And the next time Stretch heard the term was also through the media.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was like a little doc called \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Hype on Hyphy\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. And it was dubbed “the Hyphy movement” and they were trying to put it in context. I think it was on BET or something to kind of show everybody what this new big thing is, because at the time there was also the snap movement that was going on in Atlanta, which was very successful and very commercially successful. And you can kind of, you know, that was being exposed to the world already. You also had what was going on in Houston, which was being exposed to the world already. So this was, oh a prepackaged, another movement we can put together and get behind, show the world, you know what I’m saying, and capitalize off. And that’s the first time I heard the term “hyphy movement.” You know what I mean?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Prepackaged movement.” “Capitalize off it.” Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I recall the BET documentary, as well as the Rap City series BET did, where they highlighted Hyphy for a week. Mixed emotions: while our lifestyle was in the limelight, the story wasn’t quite right. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A more accurate depiction came from Oakland’s Sway Calloway, as he hosted a special on the Bay for MTV’s My Block.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The episode starts with a nod to historical hip-hop figures, with cameos from MC Hammer and members of the Almighty Hieroglyphics. They were posted in the Dubs, a couple blocks from where my friend Will was killed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Clip of Sway Calloway: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What’s up world, welcome to My Block: The Bay, now this show is extremely important to me because this is literally my block, East Oakland 23rd Ave. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They do segments with E-40 and Too Short, as well as Zion-I and Nump. At one point, San Francisco’s San Quinn tells Sway, “I’m part of the hyphy movement, but my raps ain’t funny.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In another segment Keak Da Sneak explains how Hyphy is another way of saying hyperactive. Stretch, who had seen “hyphy” become commodified, also looked to Keak for the origins of the term.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music – That’s My Word by Keak Da Sneak]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“…doing hella shit at one time,\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">my definition of hyphy is Thizzing and sniffing lines.” \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Arguably one of the biggest hyphy songs, That’s My Word, he says, “doing hella shit at one time. My definition of hyphy is Thizzing and sniffing lines.” [laugh] \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So the Godfather of hyphy, gave you his definition of what it was. As somebody from East Oakland, I think that he would probably be qualified to define what hyphy was. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music – T-shirts, Blue Jeans, and Nikes by Keak Da Sneak]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On a sunny Saturday afternoon in the early 2000s, you could drive through East Oakland, bank a right on Bancroft and hear this Keak Da Sneak song blappin’ out of the speakers in front of a record store and cultural hub, named Moses Music.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the person on the ones and twos was probably Rita Forte– formerly known as DJ Backside. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I literally asked the owner, who’s- his name was Moses, could I set up my turntables and just come on a Saturday and just DJ right outside, like for the public, just for free. Just so that people can see me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In addition to spinning at the record store and breaking local artists’ records, Rita used to spin at parties and functions I attended. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She has locs now, but back then Rita, a taller brown-skinned sista would often wear her hair straightened to shoulder length or rock a baseball hat. She’d also wear these shirts that read “Got Bay?” with a question mark, a play off the old school Got Milk? Commercial. And she had a mixtape series of the same name.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back then Rita was also traveling around the country, taking the Town with her. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Different cities would want me to come to their city and play a Hyphy set. You know, at first I didn’t catch on. I thought they just wanted to hire me. I don’t know, sometimes I’m that naive, but when they sent me the flier, it would say like Hyphy set by DJ Backside. I was like, Oh, you know.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it worked for her, taking Rita from spinning records in East Oakland to spinning the globe. \u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I got to travel internationally. I got to travel to Taiwan and to Germany, and those gigs definitely, they wanted me to play the Hyphy set. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So when you went to Germany and you were playing like white Ts, blue jeans and Nike’s.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah it was great.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> What was that like? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They were rocking to it. I mean, they knew that what I was coming to play. So there was definitely people in the crowd who knew it. There were people in the crowd who were, as I remember, you know, requesting certain songs, ‘Play that um E-40’ or whatever. You know, sometimes it would be a song that I would just be like, ‘For real? You know that?’ I mean, Hyphy– it stretched. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hyphy stretched but it was also confining. Through her travels, Rita saw the limitations as it was a regional sound that was different than most other hip-hop at the time, especially on the East Coast. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Anytime I would go to New York, I would like drop by like probably at least five or six different record labels. It was a lot of kind of executives that I think we’re kind of like, you know, I don’t know if I would say hating, but just like being ‘what is this hyphy thing?’ And to be honest, I still think a lot of them still, you know, wonder what hyphy was, to this day. I feel like I had a recent conversation with someone and they were like,\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Yeah, I never really understood it. I mean, are you guys still hyphy?’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Yeah’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Never really got it,’ \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know? So when I hear that, I’m not too surprised because I don’t think we were the best translators of the movement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So Rita, she tried taking that into her own hands.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I would come back to the Bay, I’d be like, ‘Yo, Keak, this is what you know, you need to do this in your video,’ or FAB or, you know, Too $hort, whatever. Just any time I could have like, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">a little word or conversation with any of the artists, I’m like, ‘You need to make a video for this.’ You know what I mean? ‘You need to show.’ There’s so many hyphy songs that did not get videos, that was hugely a downfall.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita’s efforts to push the Bay’s culture also led to her getting a show on air as a DJ and host with 106.1 KMEL, the Bay Area’s leading hip-hop station. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Having her own slot as a DJ and host on KMEL was huge for Rita’s career. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But she felt like they were short-changing her with the time slot they offered. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I thought that was kind of odd uh just hearing it. I was like 12 to 2 am, who am I gonna– on a Friday night? Like, what? Y’all can’t give me something, you know, in the daytime or something? You know that’s, that’s definitely what I was thinking.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita eventually took the gig, working from midnight Friday night until 2am Saturday morning. And it worked for her. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I was on there every week, you know, at that time slot. And it turned out to be a cool timeslot, to be honest with you. People was getting out the club on a Friday night and they was turning me on, you know? So it was good. So I don’t know if they thought about that or what, but like it turned out to be an excellent timeslot.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so KMEL definitely did that for me. It definitely elevated my career as a DJ, my success. I got opportunities, like I was saying, traveling, being on BET, working with all the artists in the Bay, working with artists outside of the Bay. And my show, not only was I a DJ, I was also an on air personality, so I also got to speak. So I would do interviews and everything like that. And I mean, that is some… that is some power. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Rita joined KMEL, the station was going through some \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://www.daveyd.com/articleradiosucks.html\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">turbulent times.\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> In the years prior, it had been absorbed by the major media conglomerate, Clear Channel. Then, Management fired some very well-liked on-air hosts. Local artists were upset that the place known as “The People’s Station” wasn’t playing local music as much anymore. And\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/kmel-tunes-into-cry-for-community-input-2677235.php\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> community organizers\u003c/span>\u003c/a> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">met with station reps to discuss the station’s content, amongst other things. Plus, there were competing hip-hop stations in the same market that were growing in popularity.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I didn’t really understand that whole thing to the depth that I think I should have. Umm, You know, I’ll say the word, you know, cause eventually, maybe like six or eight months later, you know, I think someone said the word to me. They were like, yeah, like ‘You were like a pawn. You know, you were a chess piece.’ You know, you know, ‘You were used in this situation” and really, like putting it that clear to me. I was like, Ohhhhhh.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita felt like her hiring was a part of the station’s attempt to show the community’s involvement. And then when she wasn’t needed anymore, things shifted. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita’s timeslot got moved back one hour and shortened. She was now on from 2am-3am on Saturday mornings, a relatively dead time. She took the change in stride, even took to Myspace to encourage her followers to tune in to her new and improved time of 2am. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She also changed her personal schedule, she’d go to clubs or events before her radio show. Or sometimes just pull up to the station and sleep out front in her car until it was time to go on air.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One night I was in my car, sleeping, and I overslept. And I woke up, I remember, I woke up at three, at three, like on the dot, right after when my show was ending. And I was just like, [sigh] I just, I just knew it. I was like, that’s it. They’re going to use this. This is the end. And that’s exactly what happened.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita was let go from KMEL after she missed her DJ slot, and she never worked in radio again. She feels like she was blackballed back then, and to this day she still feels the weight of that time. After all that she did for the hyphy movement, she didn’t really get that in return. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The fact that I was one of the biggest proponents of the hyphy movement. Again, I was traveling, I was getting hired outside. You know, I was one of the very few DJs doing that, like on large scales, like BET, like wearing my “Got bay?” shirt, you know, on TV, you know, shouting out these artists. Turf Talk, I remember when I came back from BET, Turf Talk was like, ‘Man, you shouted me out on BET!’ Like it was a big deal, you know. So I was out there campaigning for hyphy. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was just hard to really figure out like, what was real and what wasn’t and who had my back and who didn’t. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As an avid consumer of Bay Area hip-hop, man, I had no idea this was happening behind the scenes. But As I talk to folks about this era, it’s clear Rita’s story of the highs and lows of that period aren’t rare. Lots of people had career changing experiences back then. Numerous artists had projects shelved and contracts fall through. Clubs where shootings occurred were shut down. Rappers, dancers and models got caught up in fast money and drugs, things that didn’t last long. But for some folks like Rita, the dreams that didn’t pan out then, led to new opportunities today. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Looking back at it now, do you feel like that incident led to your career trajectory changing? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Absolutely. I mean, we’re sitting in the career trajectory change right now. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We were sitting in the office of her graphic design and T-shirt printing company, The Olive Street Agency. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After being DJ Backside for for 10-11 years, I learned a lot about choosing a name because that name was ooh spicy! So I really wanted to take the time of choosing a name for this next endeavor, the Olive Street Agency. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Olive Street in East Oakland is where Rita’s family has owned property for three generartions.And through her family, Rita’s developed a deep religious devotion and a sincere appreciation for the stories in the Bible. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One of my faves, though, of course, is the story of Noah and the Arc, and specifically the part of that story where, you know, they’re out there, it’s raining, pouring, and Noah sends out a dove and the dove comes back with a olive branch in it’s mouth signifying that there’s hope, there’s land out there, there’s a tree out there, and to keep going.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even though Rita is no longer spinning records or interviewing hip-hop artists live on the radio, some of the people she met back then are clients of her printing company. They use shirts to campaign for office, memorialize loved ones, or promote an upcoming project – I guess that’s storytelling on a different scale.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And Rita herself is still channeling the spirit of the soil and telling the story of a kid from East Oakland. But now it’s through an entity that she owns.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While capitalism can corrupt culture, you’re never gonna stop the independent entrepreneurs from telling their story. Especially out here, the home of slangin’ tapes out the trunk. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Next time, on the final episode of Hyphy Kids Got Trauma, we discuss this generation as a whole, and the philosophy written in graffiti that inspired this project:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hyphy children got trauma and I put that on mommas. Hyphy children got trauma and I put that on mommas… Pretty much, it turned into a chant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> This is Hyphy Kids Got Trauma. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the early 2000s, the underground DVD business was a major conduit of culture. Through films I purchased from my neighborhood independent DVD retailer, I got insight into the backstory of hip-hop artists and street culture all across the United States.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One of the films that showcased some of the overlooked inner-city Black communities of this country during that time period, \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3952526/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hood 2 Hood: The Blockumentary\u003c/a>\u003c/em>, also included an early depiction of hyphy culture as I knew it to be — hyper aggressive.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the “hyphy movement” spread in years to come, the way the culture was shown deviated drastically from the origins of the term. It was made palatable for mainstream audiences and sellable for record labels. A lot of people outside of the region, and even people within the Bay Area, grew to think of hyphy as more comical than militant. And with that, some of the artists began to cater to that image, almost becoming caricatures themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As an avid Bay Area hip-hop consumer, this impacted me directly. But the people who were working behind the scenes, making media and contributing to the culture, were hit even harder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In this episode, filmmaker \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/cashoutrichkid/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Aquis “Cash Out Quis” Bryant\u003c/a> discusses the era before hyphy went nationwide. Mac Dre’s former manager \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/seasidestretch/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chioke “Seaside Stretch” McCoy\u003c/a> shares insight on how Dre’s murder pushed the culture into the spotlight; and how the industry subsequently took the “hyphy movement” and ran with it. And \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/ritaforte/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rita Forte\u003c/a>, a former radio host known as DJ Backside, opens up about the highs of taking the hyphy sound around the world, and the lows of seeing her DJ career come crashing down after a bad experience working for a local radio station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC3978396932&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003cbr>\n \u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw, host: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Heads up, this podcast contains explicit language.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the early 2000s, the “Independent” DVD business was booming, discs were being sold in barbershops and train stations around the country. I’d get mine from a set of twin brothers who used to slang burnt CDs and DVDs on the corner of Alcatraz and Market street in North Oakland.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All I needed was a few bucks and I could purchase anything they had– animated children’s movies, raunchy adult flicks or even blockbuster films. But what caught my attention were the underground documentaries about hip-hop and the streets of America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Locally, there were joints like Go Dumb USA, Oakland Gone Wild, and High Side’N 1 & 2. These films took viewers to a world not readily shown in the mainstream or silver screen, which gave insight to stories of street culture in America. I loved that kind of media. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But, as a young journalist, that wasn’t the kind of media I was making. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even if I was talking about similar topics, my work was a little more, um, mainstream. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2006, through Oakland’s Youth Radio, I wrote and published an audio commentary for National Public Radio. It was about the cycle of birth and death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Radio Announcer:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Youth Radio’s Pendarvis Harshaw says the problems are all related.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My commentary was partially inspired by my friend Willie Clay, who had been killed in January of that year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Clip of Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Will was my boy, and to be putting on a button-up and these hard-bottom shoes to put him in a casket, it just didn’t seem real.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>I was proud to honor a friend’s story on national airwaves. And, at the same time, I was hella frustrated: none of the homies were going to hear it. You’d be farfetched to find a group of teenage Black men riding around slappin’ their local NPR station. I felt confined. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was doing stories about my community, but they were being made palatable for predominantly white middle class audiences. I wanted to tell stories that would be on the local hip-hop radio station, or on BET. I wanted to make a hood classic, like the bootleg DVDs people were selling. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But, I didn’t have a lane for that. So, I was using what channels I had to tell stories of what I was experiencing. And I was just one of the many folks in my circle trying to make note of what was happening around us. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back then some of my Youth Radio folks did a piece for NPR all about the Hyphy Movement. This one featured my longtime friend, well-known Oakland-based educator and event host, Leon Sykes:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leon Sykes, in clip\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: The hyphy movement is an act of free living. It’s like having the Holy Ghost. Something just comes over you. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, Leon talked about the spirit and… some of that goofy stuff too. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leon Sykes, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You can’t stop, you hear a song, we get hyphy to Mary Had a Little Lamb,\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Mary Had a Little Lamb plays for a few seconds, before being interrupted by a record scratch]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, a lil comical. But it was dope to hear my patnas talk about an aspect of our region’s hip-hop culture on a national program. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that story was one of a handful of pieces that came from national outlets– from your MTVs and BETs, to print publications like XXL, USA Today, The Los Angeles Times and The Guardian– they all did specials on the hyphy movement. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After years of neglect and underreporting from major media platforms, the Bay Area’s hip-hop scene was once again in the limelight. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But when the hyphy movement went mainstream, it changed things. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that’s what capitalism does to culture, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Pendarvis Harshaw, and this is Hyphy Kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> First time I saw “hyphy” in the media was on those hood DVDs from the early 2000s, and it looked a lot different than the national depiction. There was a film series that originally debuted in 2004 named Hood 2 Hood: The Blockumentary. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Clip from \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez2F9H0Vrcs&t=4648s\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hood 2 Hood\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> plays]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">America is a cold place, everywhere you go, it’s the same. The only thing that changes is the slang a muthafucka talks and the weather a muthafucka’s getting money in. Coast to coast, street to street, projects to projects. War to war, zone to zone, side to side, hood to hood this is the blockumentary.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The movies featured the grimiest hoods, the biggest guns, and the heaviest regional accents. There was rapping, fashion, cars, drugs, and more.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hood 2 Hood changed everything for me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In addition to showing me what was happening in the neighborhoods all around this country, the footage on the double disc DVD showed the streets of the Bay Area as I knew them to be: fast, hyperactive, and enticingly dangerous.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was so juiced when I found out this film, a portal into what was going on in pockets of Milwaukee, Baltimore, Memphis and more, was created by someone from the Bay Area. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I was going to Black neighborhoods. I was going to low income neighborhoods. I was going to the highest crime rated neighborhoods.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s filmmaker Aquis Bryant, aka Cash Out Quis.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s a stocky brown brotha, who’s bald with low-cut facial hair, raised on the west coast of the United States in the mighty town of Vallejo, California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Quis tells me during a recent phone call, that back in the day when he was making this film, he didn’t really have a goal beyond just trying to see how people were \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">getting it\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> all across the United States. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The only way you could see how a person was living was to actually go there and see with your own two eyes. It was where, back then, you know, each different region, each different city, everybody had their own particular fashion and slang because the Internet wasn’t merging things. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So Quis left Northern California to document what was really happening in working class Black communities around the country. And people let their guard down and showed him things that were going on in their hoods, And Quis captured it on camera,while carrying our region with him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Man bringing that Bay Area flag, I was received well, for the simple fact that, you know, the Bay Area is one of the only, like regions in the United States of America that’s not gang banging, as far as like Bloods and Crips.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I slid around the country neutral, you know what I’m saying. I didn’t have any ties to anything that could have been opposing. You know what I mean? Then on top of that, I kept me a nice sized sack of that California weed, that was, you know what I’m saying, is a plus\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At that time, you know, purple was hot. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, speaking of weed, the content of the films: drugs, guns and all of that, it toed the line of self incrimination. But in reality, Quis was simply going to places where cameras aren’t often rolling, and people were eager to show him how they were living. \u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Clip from Hood 2 Hood]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hell yeah, here ya’ll from man?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Person 1, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Check this out mayne, this is yo number one player, Ed Lover from Milton Street. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Person 2, in clip: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Respect it or accept it, cause you ain’t gon’ check it. On my momma. Three fingers. You see it. \u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was like a first of its kind since it was pre YouTube. It was like a whole, like, generation of people that that was their first time traveling out of their areas \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I personally needed to see those other neighborhoods. Through this documentary I saw glimpses of spots like Little Rock, Omaha and Gary, Indiana, locations I’d heard about, but I couldn’t tell you anything about. It made me feel connected. Like, their hood is just like our hood. And their stories aren’t getting widely told either. And the Bay isn’t the only slept on region. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even if it was a bit sensational, it was dope to see my area mentioned as a part of this bigger story of hip-hop and street culture in America. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The first of Quis’ three-part Hood 2 Hood documentary series was filmed a few years prior to the explosion of the quote “hyphy movement.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It shows what “hyphy” was before it became mainstream enough to be mentioned on NPR. And unfortunately, like many things in popular culture, it took a tragic incident to get the hyphy movement on the national map… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On Halloween night 2004, Andre Hicks, beloved rapper known to fans and loved ones as Mac Dre, was killed after performing at a show in Kansas City, Missouri. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">His death led to him becoming the patron saint of the hyphy movement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music – Thizzle Dance by Mac Dre]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To this day, when his music comes on, people turn hands to form T’s and Thizz dance in his honor. “Do it for Mac Dre,” is a battle cry.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">His life’s story is legendary: after achieving early stardom as a rapper in the late 80s and early 90s, he was sent to prison for conspiracy to rob a bank. He didn’t budge when pushed to snitch on his comrades. And after he was released, he reinvented himself and made music that impacted a generation of kids of all races from this region. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Quis says Dre’s passing kicked off a new chapter in the story of the Bay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The hyphy stuff really starts like we had been doing it, but it didn’t really get on like a national, national scene until like after Dre died, it was picking up steam… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mac Dre’s music was foundational. And the photos and videos his Thizz Nation camp produced gave visuals to culture of the Bay Area. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Quis looks at Mac Dre’s Treal TV 1 and Treal TV 2 as landmark films of that era.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Quis Bryant: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah man, it was just a build up and then, you know, it start like, bringing our culture to, like, the forefront.you know what I mean?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The news of Mac Dre’s death sent a wave of grief through the Bay, but no one felt it like the folks inside of Dre’s camp. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mac Dre, before his passing, it was just– he was, he was releasing music at a different pace than everybody else.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s Chioke McCoy, aka Seaside Stretch, a promoter and manager who’s worked with a little bit of everybody, from San Francisco’s pop star 24k Goldn to one of Atlanta’s coldest lyricists and political activists, Killer Mike. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Stretch started off working with Mac Dre after a chance meeting on a flight from Vegas back to the Bay. The two linked there, but didn’t become formal partners until a few years later. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was literally when Thizz entertainment started. So that was somewhere around – formerly working with him – somewhere around like 2002, 2003.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stretch started with promoting for Mac Dre, and over the years he’s worked with the motherload of artists from Northern California. In 2006, Stretch was focused on working with North Oakland’s Mistah F.A.B. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Things were active in the Bay musically back then, but Stretch says the culture didn’t make sense to outsiders. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I think that at the time everybody felt as if the bay was being ignored, blackballed, hated on, or whatever. But in reality, the Bay Area was just going to its own beat of its own drum, didn’t play by anybody else’s rules, didn’t kiss no ass, didn’t do any of the things that other people would do to get on. Meaning that like Bay artists weren’t moving to New York or moving to L.A. or like Atlanta. They wasn’t doing none of that. They was waiting for people to come to the Bay. And I think that at the time it was like, ‘well, if they don’t fuck with us, then we’ll just do our own thing.’ So I think the 2006 was a culmination of doing your own thing and it paying off where you were not not concerned with what was going on on the outside.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Stretch says that the term “hyphy”, commercially, wasn’t reflective of what was happening in neighborhoods across Northern California. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was presented in a way that would be more friendly to everybody. You know what I mean? Just the term “hyphy,” was, it meant something completely different than what it was commercialized as. You know what I mean? It it wasn’t a good thing, you know what I’m saying? Like, they didn’t say like, ‘Oh, them kids is hyphy, and that meant that they were just dancing around having a good time.’ No, that meant that they were destructive and violent, you know what I am saying? So, I think that, you know, it was marketed in the way that, you know, that corporations do to sell a product, which was the music so… That’s the results of what people seen and what people lived were two different things. But I think it became a self-fulfilling prophecy where the people who were a part of the culture ended up changing things to fit what was sellable.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Stretch says the first time he even heard the term “hyphy movement” was through a marketing scheme Warner Brothers put together for the Fairfield-based group, The Federation. And the next time Stretch heard the term was also through the media.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was like a little doc called \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Hype on Hyphy\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. And it was dubbed “the Hyphy movement” and they were trying to put it in context. I think it was on BET or something to kind of show everybody what this new big thing is, because at the time there was also the snap movement that was going on in Atlanta, which was very successful and very commercially successful. And you can kind of, you know, that was being exposed to the world already. You also had what was going on in Houston, which was being exposed to the world already. So this was, oh a prepackaged, another movement we can put together and get behind, show the world, you know what I’m saying, and capitalize off. And that’s the first time I heard the term “hyphy movement.” You know what I mean?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Prepackaged movement.” “Capitalize off it.” Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I recall the BET documentary, as well as the Rap City series BET did, where they highlighted Hyphy for a week. Mixed emotions: while our lifestyle was in the limelight, the story wasn’t quite right. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A more accurate depiction came from Oakland’s Sway Calloway, as he hosted a special on the Bay for MTV’s My Block.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The episode starts with a nod to historical hip-hop figures, with cameos from MC Hammer and members of the Almighty Hieroglyphics. They were posted in the Dubs, a couple blocks from where my friend Will was killed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Clip of Sway Calloway: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What’s up world, welcome to My Block: The Bay, now this show is extremely important to me because this is literally my block, East Oakland 23rd Ave. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They do segments with E-40 and Too Short, as well as Zion-I and Nump. At one point, San Francisco’s San Quinn tells Sway, “I’m part of the hyphy movement, but my raps ain’t funny.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In another segment Keak Da Sneak explains how Hyphy is another way of saying hyperactive. Stretch, who had seen “hyphy” become commodified, also looked to Keak for the origins of the term.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music – That’s My Word by Keak Da Sneak]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“…doing hella shit at one time,\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">my definition of hyphy is Thizzing and sniffing lines.” \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Arguably one of the biggest hyphy songs, That’s My Word, he says, “doing hella shit at one time. My definition of hyphy is Thizzing and sniffing lines.” [laugh] \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So the Godfather of hyphy, gave you his definition of what it was. As somebody from East Oakland, I think that he would probably be qualified to define what hyphy was. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music – T-shirts, Blue Jeans, and Nikes by Keak Da Sneak]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On a sunny Saturday afternoon in the early 2000s, you could drive through East Oakland, bank a right on Bancroft and hear this Keak Da Sneak song blappin’ out of the speakers in front of a record store and cultural hub, named Moses Music.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the person on the ones and twos was probably Rita Forte– formerly known as DJ Backside. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I literally asked the owner, who’s- his name was Moses, could I set up my turntables and just come on a Saturday and just DJ right outside, like for the public, just for free. Just so that people can see me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In addition to spinning at the record store and breaking local artists’ records, Rita used to spin at parties and functions I attended. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She has locs now, but back then Rita, a taller brown-skinned sista would often wear her hair straightened to shoulder length or rock a baseball hat. She’d also wear these shirts that read “Got Bay?” with a question mark, a play off the old school Got Milk? Commercial. And she had a mixtape series of the same name.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back then Rita was also traveling around the country, taking the Town with her. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Different cities would want me to come to their city and play a Hyphy set. You know, at first I didn’t catch on. I thought they just wanted to hire me. I don’t know, sometimes I’m that naive, but when they sent me the flier, it would say like Hyphy set by DJ Backside. I was like, Oh, you know.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it worked for her, taking Rita from spinning records in East Oakland to spinning the globe. \u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I got to travel internationally. I got to travel to Taiwan and to Germany, and those gigs definitely, they wanted me to play the Hyphy set. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So when you went to Germany and you were playing like white Ts, blue jeans and Nike’s.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah it was great.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> What was that like? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They were rocking to it. I mean, they knew that what I was coming to play. So there was definitely people in the crowd who knew it. There were people in the crowd who were, as I remember, you know, requesting certain songs, ‘Play that um E-40’ or whatever. You know, sometimes it would be a song that I would just be like, ‘For real? You know that?’ I mean, Hyphy– it stretched. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hyphy stretched but it was also confining. Through her travels, Rita saw the limitations as it was a regional sound that was different than most other hip-hop at the time, especially on the East Coast. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Anytime I would go to New York, I would like drop by like probably at least five or six different record labels. It was a lot of kind of executives that I think we’re kind of like, you know, I don’t know if I would say hating, but just like being ‘what is this hyphy thing?’ And to be honest, I still think a lot of them still, you know, wonder what hyphy was, to this day. I feel like I had a recent conversation with someone and they were like,\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Yeah, I never really understood it. I mean, are you guys still hyphy?’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Yeah’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Never really got it,’ \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know? So when I hear that, I’m not too surprised because I don’t think we were the best translators of the movement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So Rita, she tried taking that into her own hands.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I would come back to the Bay, I’d be like, ‘Yo, Keak, this is what you know, you need to do this in your video,’ or FAB or, you know, Too $hort, whatever. Just any time I could have like, \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">a little word or conversation with any of the artists, I’m like, ‘You need to make a video for this.’ You know what I mean? ‘You need to show.’ There’s so many hyphy songs that did not get videos, that was hugely a downfall.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita’s efforts to push the Bay’s culture also led to her getting a show on air as a DJ and host with 106.1 KMEL, the Bay Area’s leading hip-hop station. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Having her own slot as a DJ and host on KMEL was huge for Rita’s career. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But she felt like they were short-changing her with the time slot they offered. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I thought that was kind of odd uh just hearing it. I was like 12 to 2 am, who am I gonna– on a Friday night? Like, what? Y’all can’t give me something, you know, in the daytime or something? You know that’s, that’s definitely what I was thinking.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita eventually took the gig, working from midnight Friday night until 2am Saturday morning. And it worked for her. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I was on there every week, you know, at that time slot. And it turned out to be a cool timeslot, to be honest with you. People was getting out the club on a Friday night and they was turning me on, you know? So it was good. So I don’t know if they thought about that or what, but like it turned out to be an excellent timeslot.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so KMEL definitely did that for me. It definitely elevated my career as a DJ, my success. I got opportunities, like I was saying, traveling, being on BET, working with all the artists in the Bay, working with artists outside of the Bay. And my show, not only was I a DJ, I was also an on air personality, so I also got to speak. So I would do interviews and everything like that. And I mean, that is some… that is some power. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Rita joined KMEL, the station was going through some \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://www.daveyd.com/articleradiosucks.html\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">turbulent times.\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> In the years prior, it had been absorbed by the major media conglomerate, Clear Channel. Then, Management fired some very well-liked on-air hosts. Local artists were upset that the place known as “The People’s Station” wasn’t playing local music as much anymore. And\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/kmel-tunes-into-cry-for-community-input-2677235.php\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> community organizers\u003c/span>\u003c/a> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">met with station reps to discuss the station’s content, amongst other things. Plus, there were competing hip-hop stations in the same market that were growing in popularity.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I didn’t really understand that whole thing to the depth that I think I should have. Umm, You know, I’ll say the word, you know, cause eventually, maybe like six or eight months later, you know, I think someone said the word to me. They were like, yeah, like ‘You were like a pawn. You know, you were a chess piece.’ You know, you know, ‘You were used in this situation” and really, like putting it that clear to me. I was like, Ohhhhhh.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita felt like her hiring was a part of the station’s attempt to show the community’s involvement. And then when she wasn’t needed anymore, things shifted. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita’s timeslot got moved back one hour and shortened. She was now on from 2am-3am on Saturday mornings, a relatively dead time. She took the change in stride, even took to Myspace to encourage her followers to tune in to her new and improved time of 2am. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She also changed her personal schedule, she’d go to clubs or events before her radio show. Or sometimes just pull up to the station and sleep out front in her car until it was time to go on air.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One night I was in my car, sleeping, and I overslept. And I woke up, I remember, I woke up at three, at three, like on the dot, right after when my show was ending. And I was just like, [sigh] I just, I just knew it. I was like, that’s it. They’re going to use this. This is the end. And that’s exactly what happened.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rita was let go from KMEL after she missed her DJ slot, and she never worked in radio again. She feels like she was blackballed back then, and to this day she still feels the weight of that time. After all that she did for the hyphy movement, she didn’t really get that in return. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The fact that I was one of the biggest proponents of the hyphy movement. Again, I was traveling, I was getting hired outside. You know, I was one of the very few DJs doing that, like on large scales, like BET, like wearing my “Got bay?” shirt, you know, on TV, you know, shouting out these artists. Turf Talk, I remember when I came back from BET, Turf Talk was like, ‘Man, you shouted me out on BET!’ Like it was a big deal, you know. So I was out there campaigning for hyphy. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was just hard to really figure out like, what was real and what wasn’t and who had my back and who didn’t. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As an avid consumer of Bay Area hip-hop, man, I had no idea this was happening behind the scenes. But As I talk to folks about this era, it’s clear Rita’s story of the highs and lows of that period aren’t rare. Lots of people had career changing experiences back then. Numerous artists had projects shelved and contracts fall through. Clubs where shootings occurred were shut down. Rappers, dancers and models got caught up in fast money and drugs, things that didn’t last long. But for some folks like Rita, the dreams that didn’t pan out then, led to new opportunities today. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Looking back at it now, do you feel like that incident led to your career trajectory changing? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Absolutely. I mean, we’re sitting in the career trajectory change right now. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We were sitting in the office of her graphic design and T-shirt printing company, The Olive Street Agency. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After being DJ Backside for for 10-11 years, I learned a lot about choosing a name because that name was ooh spicy! So I really wanted to take the time of choosing a name for this next endeavor, the Olive Street Agency. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Olive Street in East Oakland is where Rita’s family has owned property for three generartions.And through her family, Rita’s developed a deep religious devotion and a sincere appreciation for the stories in the Bible. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rita Forte: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One of my faves, though, of course, is the story of Noah and the Arc, and specifically the part of that story where, you know, they’re out there, it’s raining, pouring, and Noah sends out a dove and the dove comes back with a olive branch in it’s mouth signifying that there’s hope, there’s land out there, there’s a tree out there, and to keep going.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even though Rita is no longer spinning records or interviewing hip-hop artists live on the radio, some of the people she met back then are clients of her printing company. They use shirts to campaign for office, memorialize loved ones, or promote an upcoming project – I guess that’s storytelling on a different scale.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And Rita herself is still channeling the spirit of the soil and telling the story of a kid from East Oakland. But now it’s through an entity that she owns.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While capitalism can corrupt culture, you’re never gonna stop the independent entrepreneurs from telling their story. Especially out here, the home of slangin’ tapes out the trunk. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Next time, on the final episode of Hyphy Kids Got Trauma, we discuss this generation as a whole, and the philosophy written in graffiti that inspired this project:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rich Iyala, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hyphy children got trauma and I put that on mommas. Hyphy children got trauma and I put that on mommas… Pretty much, it turned into a chant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> This is Hyphy Kids Got Trauma. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the spring of 2006, I filmed and posted a video to Youth Radio’s YouTube page titled “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdst63FWSCs\">Stomper Go Dumb\u003c/a>.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The video shows the Oakland A’s mascot, a big plush elephant in a baseball jersey and hat, dancing to a song titled “Happy To Be Here,” off of E-40’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My Ghetto Report Card\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> album. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">E-40 delivers lyrics that speak of surviving hard times and losing loved ones along the way. As the music plays, Stomper glides through the parking lot, dancing with the people, one with the letters “RIP” airbrushed on their shirt. A few folks hug each other and smile. This video clip, only a minute in length, is a window into a world where dance and jubilation meet mourning and sadness.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title='Youth Radio: Stomper \"Go Dumb\"' width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/zdst63FWSCs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen>\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before the “hyphy movement,” and even prior to having its own name, the style of dance now commonly known as turfin’ or\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\"> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">turf dancing\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> provided an outlet for young folks in Oakland. They could party to their favorite music, have fun by physically telling stories, and express themselves while\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> taking up room on the floor\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Through appearances in big-time music videos and participation in dance battles at places like Deep East Oakland’s Youth Uprising Center, young folks not only got to show their moves — they were also able to honor their deceased loved ones.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this episode, we talk to \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/turfinentertainment/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jeriel Bey\u003c/a>, the person credited with coining the term “turfin’,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/jackyj510/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jacky Johnson\u003c/a>, a founding Youth Uprising staff member, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/zeusdadunka/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jesus El, \u003c/a>my longtime friend and a well-known turf dancer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13935479\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13935479\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-800x623.jpg\" alt=\"Jeriel Bey teaches Turf Dancing classes at Berkeley High School in 2007.\" width=\"800\" height=\"623\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-800x623.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1020x795.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-160x125.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-768x599.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1536x1197.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-2048x1596.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1920x1496.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jeriel Bey teaches turf dancing classes at Berkeley High School in 2007. \u003ccite>(Carlos Avila Gonzalez/San Francisco Chronicle/Getty Images )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC4775019711&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw, Host: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Heads up, this podcast contains explicit language.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the spring of 2006, there was this video posted on Youtube titled “Stomper Go Dumb.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[chatter, shouting, and cheering from the Stomper Go Dumb video]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The clip is less than a minute long, but it shows something that’s really important. It’s shot in a parking lot. It’s Stomper, the Oakland A’s mascot– a big gray plush elephant in white pants and a forest green and gold baseball jersey. And he’s out there giggin’ to an E-40 song. Ears flapping, feet sliding, arms waving, Stomper is in full party mode, and so are the folks around him. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Behind the camera is me. In the footage, Stomper gets close to the camera, daps me up, then he proceeds to glide across the pavement, pausing momentarily to act as if he’s ghostriding the whip, and then he thizz dances. Another guy in an airbrushed white-t stands next to him, giggin’ as well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The guy’s shirt has the letters RIP boldly written next to an illegible name. And they’re all dancing to E-40’s “Happy to Be Here.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Happy to be Here by E-40 plays]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The track is off of 40’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My Ghetto Report Card \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">album, one of the few slower tracks off of his landmark project, which is chock full of high energy party anthems. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But in that moment, as we’re posted in front of E-40’s album release party at Tower Records, it’s this song that plays as the A’s mascot is showing off his gigs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People are dancing and laughing, embracing each other and celebrating, despite having the letters RIP and their friends’ names written across their chest. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Happy to be Here by E-40 fades in]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Oooh; it’s gloomy out here, dark days ahead\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">God got my back but the devil he want my head”\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After I shot the video, I posted it to the YouTube page for Youth Radio, now known as YR Media. I was a baby reporter working with them at the time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And with this video racking up half a million views, and hella people using this footage as GIFs on social media platforms, it was clear that I’d documented something significant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Deeper than a dancing elephant, it was a window into the culture. I’m Pendarvis Harshaw, and this is Hyphy Kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In that video of Stomper dancing to an E-40 song, the mascot does a few more dance moves, and then gives an extended embrace to a brotha with cornrows in a black leather jacket. The person inside the Stomper mascot outfit is saying what’s up to my right hand man, Jesus El, Zeus as we call him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s just a couple inches taller than me, born exactly three weeks before me, and we’re a lot alike. We’re socialites; neither of us can stay away from a party. Oakland proud, we both love the town and constantly get caught up in our own thoughts about how to save it – and the world, for that matter.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While I chose to sit down and write for a living, Zeus chose to fly. A trained gymnast, for over a decade he worked for the NBA, majority of that time was with the Golden State Warriors as an acro-dunker. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[hip-hop music echoes inside of stadium with a cheering crowd]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That means that at halftime of a game he’d come out with his crew – the Warriors’ Team Thunder dunk team – and run across the court, bounce off a trampoline, elevate higher than the rim, catch the ball mid-air, wink at the camera, and then dunk the ball before safely returning to earth. Outside of that, he’s also a well-known dancer from West Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I got this photo in my text message today. What’s going on here?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, man, that’s crazy. That’s a throwback. So this photo is of me dancing at Youth Uprising in a dance battle. Uh, and I look super young and skinny.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We grew up in different parts of the Town, and met during a 7th grade summer program– cracking jokes on the back of the bus. And after twenty-plus years, we haven’t stopped cracking jokes since. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The jordans – are those the fake Jordans we got? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think those was the fake Jordans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The fake Jordans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yours was fakers than mine though.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Faker? How they– if they fake, they fake. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If they fake they fake, but yours… your Jordan had buttcheeks. Remember that?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He was facing the wrong way.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He was facing the wrong way and he had the buttcheeks showing. Mine, I could at least, you know, well I was getting away with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You just gotta pull the jeans down.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I had to pull the jeans– yeah, I had to wear the big jeans over him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cb>\u003ci> \u003c/i>\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in ‘06 we were broke community college students taking classes at Laney in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Zeus had dreams of becoming an NBA mascot, and was simultaneously developing his own acro-dunking team. I was focused on doing journalism, and had just got accepted to Howard University. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So while I was spending the year getting ready for college on the east coast and getting my journalism chops up, Zeus was building his own legacy, both in the Town and around the globe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve been to China ten times, been to Italy, um, Rome, Japan, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Mexico…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He adds England, Budapest, and all of North America. He’s performed for Ripley’s Believe It or Not, holds a couple Guinness World Records, and in 2005 he performed in front of some of the biggest names in the business at the NBA All Star game in Denver, Colorado.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I met Destiny’s Child. They like, room was right next door to ours. Jay-Z, Chris Tucker, we met so many different people…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Zeus got his start after being mentored by the late Sadiki Fuller, the guy who wore the Thunder mascot costume for the Golden State Warriors. And that’s how Zeus got to know other mascots– like Stomper. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Zeus’ main inspiration came from superheroes in movies and television shows. In his own way, Zeus was a superhero when he was on the court. And just like any superhero, he’d be treated differently when he took the cape, or um, uniform off. He would leave the old Warriors arena in East Oakland and he’d transition, like Superman to Clark Kent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I had times where I’m having the day of my life. Like, I just did a new dunk, I’m the first person to do it. I do it in front of people. I make it. I’m feeling like on cloud nine…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> …and then I get back, you know everybody leaving the BART, and uh people don’t have to notice me—I’m not tripping off of that. But then, you know, people clutching they purse or, you know, like, just trying to, like, stand away from me, you know what I mean. I’m like, bruh, you was just clapping for me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Just like that, you was just clapping for me, and now I’m just another nigga that may bring harm your way and that’s trauma within itself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s trauma in that duality of physically showing joy, and being celebrated and then getting hit with the weight of reality. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In order to escape it, Zeus would literally leave. He found solace in seeing the world. But despite the freedom he felt traveling back then, Zeus knew he had to keep his stories close to the chest because of how smirkish people can be. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I remember just traveling like, I mean, soon as, aw man, soon as I touch that airplane: Oakland is in Oakland. I’m going global, I’m out. Right?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then when I come home, I have to pretend like I’m not that person.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You gotta dumb it down? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I gotta dumb it down all the time. Because, one, people… people who speak too highly of themselves are typically the ones who end up shot first, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They typically the ones that people target. It could be jealousy. It could be hate. It could be all kind of stuff. But people who… sometimes you got to just stay under the radar to survive. That’s how we survived this long.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> As confining as that might seem, it was kind of the code, still is. The Town is a place where you gotta stay low even as you come up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But on the contrary, Zeus was getting his limelight on the hoop courts. And outside of that, he was cutting up on the dancefloor– that’s where he really escaped, specifically, through the art of turf dancing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Turf Dancing is an acronym called Taking Up Room on the Floor that was coined by Jeriel Bey. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So turf dancing, it’s a style of dance that derives from Oakland. And it’s storytelling and it’s certain moves that you do, but it’s storytelling. It’s waving, gliding, all of that but it’s a certain swag that comes with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But before it was even called turfing, it was called hitting it or touching it or fucking wit it. Like, ‘fuck wit it bruh’, ya know what im saying? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel Bey, raised between Oakland and LA, is a marketing minded brother who had turf dancing, lightweight, land on his doorstep.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They know me as the godfather of turf dancing. I coined the phrase, a lot of people are like ‘you didn’t coin the phrase!’ But you know coining is something you use before anybody else use it. So I used it in both, in print and on my fliers, you know, my events, you know, just… I knew long ago just from having a lot of internships that, you know, you brand yourself, you know how to brand myself. So I definitely am known for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel was a party promoter, who was living in West Oakland and that’s where, two young dudes from the neighborhood, Demtrius Zeigler and Cory Johnson AKA Scooby, would hang around his house.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Those are the two first kids I met and then those two kids brought every other kid around me. You know, these kids, like, 14, 15, with sawed off shotguns in their backpacks. Like, bad but good kids, they just needed some focus. And the only thing they all knew that they all knew how to do was dance. Guns, and money, drugs and all, they all was coming in front of the house, dancing with me. And so my thing was like, okay, I got to give back and give ’em something to do.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The dance sessions brought about dope moves, clean gigs and hyped reactions. The problem was: the dance they were doing didn’t really have a name. There were notable moves: the drop, the airwalk, the old school Brookfield. But the overall dance style was kinda just a part of Oakland culture. That’s how we moved. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, at the same time, the terms folks were using to describe the dance style weren’t exactly marketable to the venues Jeriel was looking to work with. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was like man, I can’t sell this as ‘fucking with it’ or ‘giggin’. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So Jeriel started brainstorming, and during a conversation with one of his cousins, it all clicked. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Man, I got these youngstas in front of the house, you remember Demetrius and Scooby? They be ‘fuckin wit it’ and shit, you know, they all be dance differently: the East Oakland, the West Oakland, you know? They all dance different. Like I said, like different turfs and they all dance different…Man, how does turf dancing sound? He was like, ‘Oh, yeah, that’s it. That’s, that’s it right there!’ \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so that’s what it was. Everywhere the little homies was going, ‘What ya’ll doing?’ We turf dancing, we turf dancing. And that’s how it stuck. Even when I did community events in the City, I made sure they put it on the fliers, we turf dancing. We’re not “hyphy dancers,” hyphy was kind of like the energy, the spirit, the movement. But, you know, turfing is how we was able to separate ourselves from the energy, you know, we was turf dancing. We wasn’t hyphy dancing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Turf dancing – a mixture of boogaloo, poplock, pantomime, and being player while moving on beat – was something different than just going 18 dummy like some might imagine when we’re talking “hyphy” dancing. I mean, that was a part of it, but it was deeper than just shaking yo’ dreads. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Echo of E-40 saying “Shake them dreads.”]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was a world of Bay Area storytelling through dance, complete with signature moves from certain neighborhoods. Hence the name “turf” dancing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And people would dance everywhere, at the bus stop, the house party, The candy shop – which was this fake-teenager-club-function thing that didn’t serve alcohol but was somehow still full of faded teenagers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We hit it at the sideshow, on a car, in a car. In the school hallway, acting as if you were a car. And, at your local community center, specifically this one called Youth Uprising. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Youth Uprising opened in 2005, it was this sleek looking youth center located on 87th and MacArthur in East Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A huge-freshly painted state of the art building with bright colors that stood in contrast to the surrounding apartment buildings and the adjacent school – Castlemont High School– an institution that had been under-resourced for years, and it showed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Inside of Youth Uprising, the building was well-decorated with artwork and photos. They offered healthy meals to teenagers who came from the surrounding community, as well as employment and educational resources. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’d go up there and kick it in the music studios or attend discussions about the state of the community. And I’d also hit the dance battles they threw– turf dance battles. Here’s founding Youth Uprising staff member Jacky Johnson. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We stopped publicizing them after a while. We would just like announce the day of we were gonna do it because they would just get so like crazy. Like, our little amphitheater would just be packed. And we would see, like, young people running down the hill across MacArthur from, um, up the hill just run cutting through like, backyards to run over to the center.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jacky is a longtime community advocate who works at the intersection of social justice and entertainment. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the day, she got her start as a young adult on the staff of Youth Uprising. One of her tasks was to organize and promote the turf dance battle events. And through that, she saw how important dancing was to the culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The crowd fueled the dancers. The dancers fueled the crowd. Like it was just this perfect mixture of just a showing of what, um, Oakland, of what the Bay Area’s energy is about. And I just think of that time, I always reflect on, you can’t, you know, I, I hope that young people or, you know, other generations, they’ll have their own moments like that, but that, to me, that just feels like a moment that couldn’t… couldn’t be duplicated.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The dance battles would be roughly once a month, and they’d garner all kinds of attention. Makes sense, we didn’t have much else to do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of this culture was born out of a void. There weren’t many places in Oakland where folks could congregate for large scale-hip-hop events, and it had been that way. Because of previous conflicts and altercations at shows, hip-hop concerts were constantly under threat of being banned or over-policed in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of artists and promoters would turn to the Bay Area suburbs and central valley to do hip-hop events. But Youth Uprising was one of the venues in Oakland working to connect young fans to the local stars. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> A lot of artists would stop through and perform, and I think they loved being able to connect with the young people and be a source of inspiration. And then the young people were excited because they never knew who was gonna stop by and what was gonna happen next.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, that was me, one of the young folks juiced to be at the center. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I initially started by catching the bus up there after hearing about it from friends. But when I got my car, this plum colored Chrysler Sebring with a functional sunroof and dysfunctional sound system, I was there. Well, until the transmission died, then I was back on the bus. But either way, I was fasho pulling up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’d bounce out with the same camcorder I filmed Stomper going dumb with, show love to the security guards, and then, as a young journalist trying to get on, I’d find my way to interviewing folks like E-40, Mistah FAB, Vidal White, Too $hort, The Husalah, The Jacka and later, Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums. I have a few photos from back then, not much video. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I look back at the few photos I have of myself from back then? Man, I was in it! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Specifically this one photo of me sitting in the audience of a dance battle, wearing an oversized t-shirt, baggy jeans, and those knock off Jordans that Zeus roasted me about, while holding on to that camcorder. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I was in it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was one of the many young folks who ascribed to a culture that was having its moment in the sun, despite the ever-present dark clouds. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the day, Jeriel Bey taught classes at Youth Uprising. In addition to that, he choreographed dances for music videos and performances. He also threw dance events–including battles between cities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right before one event in Los Angeles, Demetrius Zigler, who used to hang out in front of Jeriel’s house, was killed. In response, Jeriel and his dance team, the Architeckz, danced in the battle in Demetrius’ honor. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I remember us all having this sweater, his picture, like, you know, on the hoodies, which is synonymous with losing someone on the street. So we had him on our hoodies. We drove down to L.A.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel and his team won the battle, but they did so while mourning their friend. Full of mixed emotions, they made the drive back to Northern California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I’m tired, everybody is sleep in the van. I get a call, I think, from Jacky Johnson. She’s like, ‘Yeah, you know, E-40 heard about your guy being killed, and um and they want to put you on this video called, Tell Me When to Go.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Record scratch]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I said, the song I’d been hearing on the Radio? She goes ‘Yeah. They’re shooting in West Oakland right now.’ I’m like, damn, I live in West Oakland like we’re all by the train station. What? That’s three blocks away from me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Cool. I wake up everybody, I’m like a man we finna go shoot a video. ‘What video?’ Tell Me When to Go. ‘What?!’ We smash to West Oakland, we pull up to the house, we take a little hoe baths and shit, wash our faces and shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They get to the set, and 40, Lil Jon and the production team are moving through scenes. The iconic opening of the video, with a circle of folks going dumb on the ground shaking their dreads? That’s not them. That’s another dance crew. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After rushing to the set, rehearsing an impromptu routine and getting ready for their light, Jeriel and the Architeckz almost get skipped over. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And they was like ‘We gon’ give you one shot, let me see what y’all got.’ And then the rest is history. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The black and white footage from the video shows the group forming a semicircle, with the opening facing the camera. They dance aggressively, hittin’ signature turf dance moves as well as shaking their dreads. The majority of them are wearing the hoodies dedicated to Demetrius. Dancing in his honor, they left an impression on the filmmakers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We shot like three more times after that. And before the video came out, it was, ‘Oh, good job, Architects,’ oh, E-40, people loved us, ‘Oh, ‘Demetrius, rest in peace, Demetrius, aww community community,’ but as soon as that muthafucka hit MTV, it was like, ‘Man them niggas ain’t really from Oakland tho.’ It’s all the hate and then the bullshit came.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People were congratulating them on the video set, but were critical once the video came out. Jeriel says that other artists, dancers and people from the Bay Area hip-hop community made comments about the fact that Jeriel is originally from LA, or that the Architeckz weren’t that tight. Jeriel was shocked.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s when I realized, like, yo, people can love you on the way up, but the envy is a muthafucka. Envy will get you killed out here when people feel like they deserve more than you and I experienced all that shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel says people were envious of the Architeckz success. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, really it was misguided anger – a byproduct of the lack of resources. If there were more limelight, everyone could shine. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But that video being on MTV, and the media attention that was focused on the hoods of the Bay Area during the Hyphy Movement came on the heels of years of media neglect. So folks were hungry, vying for an opening. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some artists were over-promoting this hyphy thing. A few big media platforms, clothing lines, club promoters, even community centers were selling it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s Zeus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Man, to be honest with you, I don’t think Youth Uprising would have been that impactful if it wasn’t for the dance culture, because a lot of people were showing up for the dance culture and staying for the resources, you know what I mean?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jacky saw it differently, and has the same sentiments as Zeus. After the dance battles, how do you connect folks with counseling, healthcare and other resources? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We’re like, okay, well how do we move these young people into our programming? And that would sometimes be a challenge because I think sometimes we felt really- I felt for sure stressed out about like, okay, like are we doing enough if they’re coming here and they’re not going into a, you know, career and education program.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The whole situation made Jacky frustrated. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You have to hit these deliverables. It’s like, how do you, like, okay, you get this amount of money now go and transform somebody’s life as they’ve, yeah, experienced all this trauma and need all of the- these things, or the fact that we all are going through our own shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Youth Uprising center has gone through its ups and downs, but it still stands today. And back when it first opened, even with all of the elements at play, the center was a beacon for kids like me and Zeus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[crowd cheering]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We on the bus, catching the 57 from West Oakland all the way to 88 and MacArthur, and this is when it was super turfed out. I’m talking about real hood, so we up there battling cats, Like around the stage it was like 300 people, like hanging over, just having hella fun tho. But you would have different people from different sides of the city come out and battle each other. And that’s how you earned your respect. Like with dancing, you earn your respect because you’re \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">way\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> somewhere in somebody else’s hood, and you could be battling they friend. But if you raw, they gon be like you raw bruh. Like I still know people to this day from me meeting them at Youth Uprising.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Those experiences. That community. Those intangibles. They don’t show up in a fiscal report. They show up in people’s memories. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I have mental pictures of audiences going wild after someone hit a backflip during a dance battle, fond memories of meeting a new crush after the conclusion of an event. And I even have one picture from that day that E-40 pulled up for a photo shoot. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We really wanted to create a safe space from the violence, safe space from the police, um, where we kind of held it down and it was just this raw energy. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Youth Uprising was one of the many nonprofits that both invested in, and benefited from the culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Its location, resources, and connections to big name-artists made it significant. But the youth programs, they were just a Band-Aid in the face of generations of neglected neighborhoods and people living in poverty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The trauma that we inherited existed long before we did, and still, we found joy in the middle of all that. Some of the moments turned into photos, others are invisible memories that are stories waiting to be told. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the stories – the way they were told, who told them and what stories were not told – well that’s another layer to the trauma. We’ll get into all of that in the next episode.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just the term “hyphy,” was, it meant something completely different to what it was commercialized as. You know what I mean? It it wasn’t a good thing, you know what I’m saying? Like, they didn’t say like, Oh, them kids is hyphy, and that meant that they were just dancing around having a good time. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the spring of 2006, I filmed and posted a video to Youth Radio’s YouTube page titled “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdst63FWSCs\">Stomper Go Dumb\u003c/a>.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The video shows the Oakland A’s mascot, a big plush elephant in a baseball jersey and hat, dancing to a song titled “Happy To Be Here,” off of E-40’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My Ghetto Report Card\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> album. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">E-40 delivers lyrics that speak of surviving hard times and losing loved ones along the way. As the music plays, Stomper glides through the parking lot, dancing with the people, one with the letters “RIP” airbrushed on their shirt. A few folks hug each other and smile. This video clip, only a minute in length, is a window into a world where dance and jubilation meet mourning and sadness.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title='Youth Radio: Stomper \"Go Dumb\"' width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/zdst63FWSCs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen>\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Before the “hyphy movement,” and even prior to having its own name, the style of dance now commonly known as turfin’ or\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13932887/turf-dancing-oakland-street-dance\"> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">turf dancing\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> provided an outlet for young folks in Oakland. They could party to their favorite music, have fun by physically telling stories, and express themselves while\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> taking up room on the floor\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Through appearances in big-time music videos and participation in dance battles at places like Deep East Oakland’s Youth Uprising Center, young folks not only got to show their moves — they were also able to honor their deceased loved ones.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this episode, we talk to \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/turfinentertainment/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jeriel Bey\u003c/a>, the person credited with coining the term “turfin’,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/jackyj510/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jacky Johnson\u003c/a>, a founding Youth Uprising staff member, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/zeusdadunka/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jesus El, \u003c/a>my longtime friend and a well-known turf dancer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13935479\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13935479\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-800x623.jpg\" alt=\"Jeriel Bey teaches Turf Dancing classes at Berkeley High School in 2007.\" width=\"800\" height=\"623\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-800x623.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1020x795.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-160x125.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-768x599.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1536x1197.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-2048x1596.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/09/GettyImages-1408863565-scaled-1-1920x1496.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jeriel Bey teaches turf dancing classes at Berkeley High School in 2007. \u003ccite>(Carlos Avila Gonzalez/San Francisco Chronicle/Getty Images )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC4775019711&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw, Host: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Heads up, this podcast contains explicit language.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the spring of 2006, there was this video posted on Youtube titled “Stomper Go Dumb.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[chatter, shouting, and cheering from the Stomper Go Dumb video]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The clip is less than a minute long, but it shows something that’s really important. It’s shot in a parking lot. It’s Stomper, the Oakland A’s mascot– a big gray plush elephant in white pants and a forest green and gold baseball jersey. And he’s out there giggin’ to an E-40 song. Ears flapping, feet sliding, arms waving, Stomper is in full party mode, and so are the folks around him. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Behind the camera is me. In the footage, Stomper gets close to the camera, daps me up, then he proceeds to glide across the pavement, pausing momentarily to act as if he’s ghostriding the whip, and then he thizz dances. Another guy in an airbrushed white-t stands next to him, giggin’ as well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The guy’s shirt has the letters RIP boldly written next to an illegible name. And they’re all dancing to E-40’s “Happy to Be Here.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Happy to be Here by E-40 plays]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The track is off of 40’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My Ghetto Report Card \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">album, one of the few slower tracks off of his landmark project, which is chock full of high energy party anthems. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But in that moment, as we’re posted in front of E-40’s album release party at Tower Records, it’s this song that plays as the A’s mascot is showing off his gigs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People are dancing and laughing, embracing each other and celebrating, despite having the letters RIP and their friends’ names written across their chest. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Happy to be Here by E-40 fades in]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Oooh; it’s gloomy out here, dark days ahead\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">God got my back but the devil he want my head”\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After I shot the video, I posted it to the YouTube page for Youth Radio, now known as YR Media. I was a baby reporter working with them at the time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And with this video racking up half a million views, and hella people using this footage as GIFs on social media platforms, it was clear that I’d documented something significant. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Deeper than a dancing elephant, it was a window into the culture. I’m Pendarvis Harshaw, and this is Hyphy Kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In that video of Stomper dancing to an E-40 song, the mascot does a few more dance moves, and then gives an extended embrace to a brotha with cornrows in a black leather jacket. The person inside the Stomper mascot outfit is saying what’s up to my right hand man, Jesus El, Zeus as we call him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s just a couple inches taller than me, born exactly three weeks before me, and we’re a lot alike. We’re socialites; neither of us can stay away from a party. Oakland proud, we both love the town and constantly get caught up in our own thoughts about how to save it – and the world, for that matter.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While I chose to sit down and write for a living, Zeus chose to fly. A trained gymnast, for over a decade he worked for the NBA, majority of that time was with the Golden State Warriors as an acro-dunker. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[hip-hop music echoes inside of stadium with a cheering crowd]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That means that at halftime of a game he’d come out with his crew – the Warriors’ Team Thunder dunk team – and run across the court, bounce off a trampoline, elevate higher than the rim, catch the ball mid-air, wink at the camera, and then dunk the ball before safely returning to earth. Outside of that, he’s also a well-known dancer from West Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I got this photo in my text message today. What’s going on here?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, man, that’s crazy. That’s a throwback. So this photo is of me dancing at Youth Uprising in a dance battle. Uh, and I look super young and skinny.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We grew up in different parts of the Town, and met during a 7th grade summer program– cracking jokes on the back of the bus. And after twenty-plus years, we haven’t stopped cracking jokes since. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The jordans – are those the fake Jordans we got? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think those was the fake Jordans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The fake Jordans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yours was fakers than mine though.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Faker? How they– if they fake, they fake. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If they fake they fake, but yours… your Jordan had buttcheeks. Remember that?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He was facing the wrong way.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He was facing the wrong way and he had the buttcheeks showing. Mine, I could at least, you know, well I was getting away with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You just gotta pull the jeans down.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I had to pull the jeans– yeah, I had to wear the big jeans over him.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cb>\u003ci> \u003c/i>\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in ‘06 we were broke community college students taking classes at Laney in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Zeus had dreams of becoming an NBA mascot, and was simultaneously developing his own acro-dunking team. I was focused on doing journalism, and had just got accepted to Howard University. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So while I was spending the year getting ready for college on the east coast and getting my journalism chops up, Zeus was building his own legacy, both in the Town and around the globe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve been to China ten times, been to Italy, um, Rome, Japan, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Mexico…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He adds England, Budapest, and all of North America. He’s performed for Ripley’s Believe It or Not, holds a couple Guinness World Records, and in 2005 he performed in front of some of the biggest names in the business at the NBA All Star game in Denver, Colorado.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I met Destiny’s Child. They like, room was right next door to ours. Jay-Z, Chris Tucker, we met so many different people…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Zeus got his start after being mentored by the late Sadiki Fuller, the guy who wore the Thunder mascot costume for the Golden State Warriors. And that’s how Zeus got to know other mascots– like Stomper. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Zeus’ main inspiration came from superheroes in movies and television shows. In his own way, Zeus was a superhero when he was on the court. And just like any superhero, he’d be treated differently when he took the cape, or um, uniform off. He would leave the old Warriors arena in East Oakland and he’d transition, like Superman to Clark Kent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I had times where I’m having the day of my life. Like, I just did a new dunk, I’m the first person to do it. I do it in front of people. I make it. I’m feeling like on cloud nine…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> …and then I get back, you know everybody leaving the BART, and uh people don’t have to notice me—I’m not tripping off of that. But then, you know, people clutching they purse or, you know, like, just trying to, like, stand away from me, you know what I mean. I’m like, bruh, you was just clapping for me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Just like that, you was just clapping for me, and now I’m just another nigga that may bring harm your way and that’s trauma within itself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s trauma in that duality of physically showing joy, and being celebrated and then getting hit with the weight of reality. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In order to escape it, Zeus would literally leave. He found solace in seeing the world. But despite the freedom he felt traveling back then, Zeus knew he had to keep his stories close to the chest because of how smirkish people can be. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I remember just traveling like, I mean, soon as, aw man, soon as I touch that airplane: Oakland is in Oakland. I’m going global, I’m out. Right?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then when I come home, I have to pretend like I’m not that person.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You gotta dumb it down? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I gotta dumb it down all the time. Because, one, people… people who speak too highly of themselves are typically the ones who end up shot first, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They typically the ones that people target. It could be jealousy. It could be hate. It could be all kind of stuff. But people who… sometimes you got to just stay under the radar to survive. That’s how we survived this long.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> As confining as that might seem, it was kind of the code, still is. The Town is a place where you gotta stay low even as you come up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But on the contrary, Zeus was getting his limelight on the hoop courts. And outside of that, he was cutting up on the dancefloor– that’s where he really escaped, specifically, through the art of turf dancing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Turf Dancing is an acronym called Taking Up Room on the Floor that was coined by Jeriel Bey. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So turf dancing, it’s a style of dance that derives from Oakland. And it’s storytelling and it’s certain moves that you do, but it’s storytelling. It’s waving, gliding, all of that but it’s a certain swag that comes with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But before it was even called turfing, it was called hitting it or touching it or fucking wit it. Like, ‘fuck wit it bruh’, ya know what im saying? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel Bey, raised between Oakland and LA, is a marketing minded brother who had turf dancing, lightweight, land on his doorstep.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They know me as the godfather of turf dancing. I coined the phrase, a lot of people are like ‘you didn’t coin the phrase!’ But you know coining is something you use before anybody else use it. So I used it in both, in print and on my fliers, you know, my events, you know, just… I knew long ago just from having a lot of internships that, you know, you brand yourself, you know how to brand myself. So I definitely am known for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel was a party promoter, who was living in West Oakland and that’s where, two young dudes from the neighborhood, Demtrius Zeigler and Cory Johnson AKA Scooby, would hang around his house.\u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Those are the two first kids I met and then those two kids brought every other kid around me. You know, these kids, like, 14, 15, with sawed off shotguns in their backpacks. Like, bad but good kids, they just needed some focus. And the only thing they all knew that they all knew how to do was dance. Guns, and money, drugs and all, they all was coming in front of the house, dancing with me. And so my thing was like, okay, I got to give back and give ’em something to do.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The dance sessions brought about dope moves, clean gigs and hyped reactions. The problem was: the dance they were doing didn’t really have a name. There were notable moves: the drop, the airwalk, the old school Brookfield. But the overall dance style was kinda just a part of Oakland culture. That’s how we moved. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, at the same time, the terms folks were using to describe the dance style weren’t exactly marketable to the venues Jeriel was looking to work with. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was like man, I can’t sell this as ‘fucking with it’ or ‘giggin’. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So Jeriel started brainstorming, and during a conversation with one of his cousins, it all clicked. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Man, I got these youngstas in front of the house, you remember Demetrius and Scooby? They be ‘fuckin wit it’ and shit, you know, they all be dance differently: the East Oakland, the West Oakland, you know? They all dance different. Like I said, like different turfs and they all dance different…Man, how does turf dancing sound? He was like, ‘Oh, yeah, that’s it. That’s, that’s it right there!’ \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so that’s what it was. Everywhere the little homies was going, ‘What ya’ll doing?’ We turf dancing, we turf dancing. And that’s how it stuck. Even when I did community events in the City, I made sure they put it on the fliers, we turf dancing. We’re not “hyphy dancers,” hyphy was kind of like the energy, the spirit, the movement. But, you know, turfing is how we was able to separate ourselves from the energy, you know, we was turf dancing. We wasn’t hyphy dancing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Turf dancing – a mixture of boogaloo, poplock, pantomime, and being player while moving on beat – was something different than just going 18 dummy like some might imagine when we’re talking “hyphy” dancing. I mean, that was a part of it, but it was deeper than just shaking yo’ dreads. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Echo of E-40 saying “Shake them dreads.”]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was a world of Bay Area storytelling through dance, complete with signature moves from certain neighborhoods. Hence the name “turf” dancing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And people would dance everywhere, at the bus stop, the house party, The candy shop – which was this fake-teenager-club-function thing that didn’t serve alcohol but was somehow still full of faded teenagers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We hit it at the sideshow, on a car, in a car. In the school hallway, acting as if you were a car. And, at your local community center, specifically this one called Youth Uprising. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Youth Uprising opened in 2005, it was this sleek looking youth center located on 87th and MacArthur in East Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A huge-freshly painted state of the art building with bright colors that stood in contrast to the surrounding apartment buildings and the adjacent school – Castlemont High School– an institution that had been under-resourced for years, and it showed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Inside of Youth Uprising, the building was well-decorated with artwork and photos. They offered healthy meals to teenagers who came from the surrounding community, as well as employment and educational resources. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’d go up there and kick it in the music studios or attend discussions about the state of the community. And I’d also hit the dance battles they threw– turf dance battles. Here’s founding Youth Uprising staff member Jacky Johnson. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson, guest:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We stopped publicizing them after a while. We would just like announce the day of we were gonna do it because they would just get so like crazy. Like, our little amphitheater would just be packed. And we would see, like, young people running down the hill across MacArthur from, um, up the hill just run cutting through like, backyards to run over to the center.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jacky is a longtime community advocate who works at the intersection of social justice and entertainment. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the day, she got her start as a young adult on the staff of Youth Uprising. One of her tasks was to organize and promote the turf dance battle events. And through that, she saw how important dancing was to the culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The crowd fueled the dancers. The dancers fueled the crowd. Like it was just this perfect mixture of just a showing of what, um, Oakland, of what the Bay Area’s energy is about. And I just think of that time, I always reflect on, you can’t, you know, I, I hope that young people or, you know, other generations, they’ll have their own moments like that, but that, to me, that just feels like a moment that couldn’t… couldn’t be duplicated.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The dance battles would be roughly once a month, and they’d garner all kinds of attention. Makes sense, we didn’t have much else to do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of this culture was born out of a void. There weren’t many places in Oakland where folks could congregate for large scale-hip-hop events, and it had been that way. Because of previous conflicts and altercations at shows, hip-hop concerts were constantly under threat of being banned or over-policed in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of artists and promoters would turn to the Bay Area suburbs and central valley to do hip-hop events. But Youth Uprising was one of the venues in Oakland working to connect young fans to the local stars. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> A lot of artists would stop through and perform, and I think they loved being able to connect with the young people and be a source of inspiration. And then the young people were excited because they never knew who was gonna stop by and what was gonna happen next.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, that was me, one of the young folks juiced to be at the center. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I initially started by catching the bus up there after hearing about it from friends. But when I got my car, this plum colored Chrysler Sebring with a functional sunroof and dysfunctional sound system, I was there. Well, until the transmission died, then I was back on the bus. But either way, I was fasho pulling up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’d bounce out with the same camcorder I filmed Stomper going dumb with, show love to the security guards, and then, as a young journalist trying to get on, I’d find my way to interviewing folks like E-40, Mistah FAB, Vidal White, Too $hort, The Husalah, The Jacka and later, Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums. I have a few photos from back then, not much video. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I look back at the few photos I have of myself from back then? Man, I was in it! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Specifically this one photo of me sitting in the audience of a dance battle, wearing an oversized t-shirt, baggy jeans, and those knock off Jordans that Zeus roasted me about, while holding on to that camcorder. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I was in it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was one of the many young folks who ascribed to a culture that was having its moment in the sun, despite the ever-present dark clouds. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in the day, Jeriel Bey taught classes at Youth Uprising. In addition to that, he choreographed dances for music videos and performances. He also threw dance events–including battles between cities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right before one event in Los Angeles, Demetrius Zigler, who used to hang out in front of Jeriel’s house, was killed. In response, Jeriel and his dance team, the Architeckz, danced in the battle in Demetrius’ honor. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I remember us all having this sweater, his picture, like, you know, on the hoodies, which is synonymous with losing someone on the street. So we had him on our hoodies. We drove down to L.A.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel and his team won the battle, but they did so while mourning their friend. Full of mixed emotions, they made the drive back to Northern California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I’m tired, everybody is sleep in the van. I get a call, I think, from Jacky Johnson. She’s like, ‘Yeah, you know, E-40 heard about your guy being killed, and um and they want to put you on this video called, Tell Me When to Go.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Record scratch]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I said, the song I’d been hearing on the Radio? She goes ‘Yeah. They’re shooting in West Oakland right now.’ I’m like, damn, I live in West Oakland like we’re all by the train station. What? That’s three blocks away from me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Cool. I wake up everybody, I’m like a man we finna go shoot a video. ‘What video?’ Tell Me When to Go. ‘What?!’ We smash to West Oakland, we pull up to the house, we take a little hoe baths and shit, wash our faces and shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They get to the set, and 40, Lil Jon and the production team are moving through scenes. The iconic opening of the video, with a circle of folks going dumb on the ground shaking their dreads? That’s not them. That’s another dance crew. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After rushing to the set, rehearsing an impromptu routine and getting ready for their light, Jeriel and the Architeckz almost get skipped over. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And they was like ‘We gon’ give you one shot, let me see what y’all got.’ And then the rest is history. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The black and white footage from the video shows the group forming a semicircle, with the opening facing the camera. They dance aggressively, hittin’ signature turf dance moves as well as shaking their dreads. The majority of them are wearing the hoodies dedicated to Demetrius. Dancing in his honor, they left an impression on the filmmakers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We shot like three more times after that. And before the video came out, it was, ‘Oh, good job, Architects,’ oh, E-40, people loved us, ‘Oh, ‘Demetrius, rest in peace, Demetrius, aww community community,’ but as soon as that muthafucka hit MTV, it was like, ‘Man them niggas ain’t really from Oakland tho.’ It’s all the hate and then the bullshit came.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People were congratulating them on the video set, but were critical once the video came out. Jeriel says that other artists, dancers and people from the Bay Area hip-hop community made comments about the fact that Jeriel is originally from LA, or that the Architeckz weren’t that tight. Jeriel was shocked.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jeriel Bey: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s when I realized, like, yo, people can love you on the way up, but the envy is a muthafucka. Envy will get you killed out here when people feel like they deserve more than you and I experienced all that shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jeriel says people were envious of the Architeckz success. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, really it was misguided anger – a byproduct of the lack of resources. If there were more limelight, everyone could shine. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But that video being on MTV, and the media attention that was focused on the hoods of the Bay Area during the Hyphy Movement came on the heels of years of media neglect. So folks were hungry, vying for an opening. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some artists were over-promoting this hyphy thing. A few big media platforms, clothing lines, club promoters, even community centers were selling it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s Zeus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Man, to be honest with you, I don’t think Youth Uprising would have been that impactful if it wasn’t for the dance culture, because a lot of people were showing up for the dance culture and staying for the resources, you know what I mean?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jacky saw it differently, and has the same sentiments as Zeus. After the dance battles, how do you connect folks with counseling, healthcare and other resources? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We’re like, okay, well how do we move these young people into our programming? And that would sometimes be a challenge because I think sometimes we felt really- I felt for sure stressed out about like, okay, like are we doing enough if they’re coming here and they’re not going into a, you know, career and education program.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The whole situation made Jacky frustrated. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You have to hit these deliverables. It’s like, how do you, like, okay, you get this amount of money now go and transform somebody’s life as they’ve, yeah, experienced all this trauma and need all of the- these things, or the fact that we all are going through our own shit.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Youth Uprising center has gone through its ups and downs, but it still stands today. And back when it first opened, even with all of the elements at play, the center was a beacon for kids like me and Zeus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[crowd cheering]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesus El:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We on the bus, catching the 57 from West Oakland all the way to 88 and MacArthur, and this is when it was super turfed out. I’m talking about real hood, so we up there battling cats, Like around the stage it was like 300 people, like hanging over, just having hella fun tho. But you would have different people from different sides of the city come out and battle each other. And that’s how you earned your respect. Like with dancing, you earn your respect because you’re \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">way\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> somewhere in somebody else’s hood, and you could be battling they friend. But if you raw, they gon be like you raw bruh. Like I still know people to this day from me meeting them at Youth Uprising.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Those experiences. That community. Those intangibles. They don’t show up in a fiscal report. They show up in people’s memories. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I have mental pictures of audiences going wild after someone hit a backflip during a dance battle, fond memories of meeting a new crush after the conclusion of an event. And I even have one picture from that day that E-40 pulled up for a photo shoot. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jacky Johnson:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We really wanted to create a safe space from the violence, safe space from the police, um, where we kind of held it down and it was just this raw energy. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Youth Uprising was one of the many nonprofits that both invested in, and benefited from the culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Its location, resources, and connections to big name-artists made it significant. But the youth programs, they were just a Band-Aid in the face of generations of neglected neighborhoods and people living in poverty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The trauma that we inherited existed long before we did, and still, we found joy in the middle of all that. Some of the moments turned into photos, others are invisible memories that are stories waiting to be told. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the stories – the way they were told, who told them and what stories were not told – well that’s another layer to the trauma. We’ll get into all of that in the next episode.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Seaside Stretch, guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just the term “hyphy,” was, it meant something completely different to what it was commercialized as. You know what I mean? It it wasn’t a good thing, you know what I’m saying? Like, they didn’t say like, Oh, them kids is hyphy, and that meant that they were just dancing around having a good time. No, that means that they were destructive and violent, you know? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Pendarvis Harshaw: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is Hyphy kids Got Trauma. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hosted by me, Pendarvis Harshaw\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Produced by Maya Cueva\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Edited by Chris Hambrick\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sound design and original music by\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Trackademics\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With support from Eric Arnold, Jen Chien, Holly Kernan, Victoria Mauleon, Marisol Medina-Cadena, Gabe Meline, Xorje Olivares, Delency Parham, Cesar Saldaña, Sayre Quevedo, Katie Sprenger, Nastia Voynovskaya, and Ryce Stoughtenborough. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This project was produced with support from PRX and is made possible, in part, by a grant from the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And this is a part of KQED’s That’s My Word project, a year-long exploration of Bay Area Hip-Hop history. Find more at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://bayareahiphop.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BayAreaHipHop.Com\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">RIP Demtrius Zigler, and so many more. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Until next time, peace. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12127869\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-400x39.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/09/Q.Logo_.Break_-768x75.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003cem>Rightnowish is an arts and culture podcast produced at KQED. 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"title": "Adorned: Host Marisol Medina-Cadena Exits Her Flop Era",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003cem>View the full episode transcript\u003c/em>.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What began as a personal quest to get out of this rut (or flop era as the chronically online people say) that I was experiencing, quickly developed into my focal point for work. So, I enlisted the help of my podcast department colleagues to help me figure out how I would translate this self help journey for our Rightnowish podcast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I know this was \u003cem>my\u003c/em> idea but still… I was lowkey nervous about stepping into the limelight as the host, airing out personal woes of not feeling my best self, feeling like a ghost of myself (if I’m being totally honest).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turns out, that the dedicated time to focus on this theme of adornment for work was a befitting experiment. It allowed me to bring my full self to work and not have to hide the truth that I was feeling \u003cem>so\u003c/em> crummy about myself. With the goal of learning new tools to work myself out of this self loathing pit, I set out to interview Bay Area creatives/business owners who specialized in different forms of adornment: fragrance, flower arrangements, colorful clothing and custom jewelry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Learning to view these forms of decorations as rituals has been a game changer for me. I now realize getting ready doesn’t have to be about centering opulence, it can be about taking care of myself and setting intentions for the day or for the experience I want to manifest. I hope this series has been enjoyable for you as much as it has for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To celebrate the end of this series, we leave you with a conversation between producer Xorje Olivares and I about the journey of making ‘Adorned’.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC3829244528&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag ='adorned' label= 'More From the Adorned Series' num='5']\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey there. I’m Xorje Olivares and you may have heard my name over the past few weeks because I have been producing this wonderful \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Adorned \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">series that Rightnowish has been doing this whole summer. And you’ve heard the main producer of the show, Marisol Medina-Cadena go on this journey to figure out all the different definitions of adornment that she can ascribe to herself. When it comes to items like clothing, jewelry, flowers in the home, there’s just been a lot of opportunity to really explore what adornment looks like. So I’m excited because Marisol is with me here in studio as we talk about these past few weeks, what they’ve looked like for her especially as the person who’s trying to figure out what adornment is. And we’ll get into all of that right after the break\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, Marisol, I’m excited for us to break this all down together. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hey, Xorje! Me, too! Let’s get into it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Before we get into the specifics of each of these different episodes, we’ve had a chance to talk about this a little bit before but why center adornment? Because it’s funny. It’s a word that we don’t use quite often in our daily conversation, but it’s something that we’re mindful of at all times, as just like humans operating in this world. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Three out of the four guests for this Adorned series were all creatives, business owners that I’ve just been a fan of for the last like three years. And I wanted to, like, dive into their crafts, whether it be floristry, jewelry making, or clothing design, because those are art forms that we haven’t really had on the show before. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so I was like, what is like the common throughline here? And it’s the way we adorn ourselves, our spaces. It’s that intentional decoration, if you will. For me, I think a lot of people might think “adorned” as luxury. But I’m trying to reframe adorned I think to just talk about those intimate actions. They don’t have to be very elaborate or evolved for it to make us feel special, for it to make us feel alive. And I think in my own day to day life, I’m very clumsy. I just feel rushed all the time. I don’t always give myself that space and slowness to like, adorn myself, really.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mhmm\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I love watching my homegirls get ready or even my own mother get ready. That’s just such a beautiful ritual I love watching other people do, but I feel like I’ve never known how to really do that for myself. And so I kind of wanted to push myself to like, I could have that for myself as well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You’ve been very explicit in saying to our audience members that you are on this journey, you’re feeling a little funky with yourself, you don’t quite know where to place yourself, and that’s part of the reason that motivated you to, to pursue this series. So we walk alongside you as you experience these elements of adornment. So with Mauricio Garcia, first episode we did in the series, you’re smelling some of his original perfumes, and then later on in the series, you are going through the racks of Sophia Mitty’s clothes. You’re having Chelsea Macalino-Calalay make you a piece of jewelry. You are doing all of this in real time. So what was it like, we’ll start with Mauricio, to just have that experience caught on tape? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mauricio, for example, he brought not only the finished perfumes, but like the individual fragrances that go into the perfume. And so it was this whole ritual, like where he had me smell the individual ingredients and guess them before he showed me the finished product. And so it was like he was getting me in this state of mind to just like, really slow down and really use all of my senses. I think it affected me like, I really think since that episode, I’ve been trying to be a lot more mindful and methodical as I’m prepping myself for the day. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Again, I’m using this word “ritual” interchangeably with adornment, because I am… I’m, I really saw how these different creatives use their craft as a ritual, right? It’s not something you could just whip out, bada bing bada boom. It’s like there is intention behind it, process. It’s… it’s something that just is a product of intention and reflection.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Most of what we think about with adornment is clothing, and that’s Sophia’s specialty. So let’s talk about the chance that you had to go into her studio called The Stu. It’s in South San Francisco. And just see a variety of clothes that maybe you did see for yourself or maybe you didn’t see for yourself or can now see for yourself. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah. Okay. So, Sophia Mitty, for folks who haven’t listened to that episode yet, she makes colorful utility pants. I’m talking like straight leg pants with deep pockets. These are pants construction workers wear, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mhmm. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And I think for me, I really, again, wanted to avoid this idea of, like, people’s natural assumptions that clothing always has to be luxurious. And so I think she was kind of this perfect fit where it’s like she’s doing clothing, but it’s not like this high end fashion that we can’t necessarily wear on our everyday lives. It’s very utilitarian. And I think that really resonated with me because I love practical things, but like… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Laughs] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Don’t we all! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But I want my practical things to have character, to have flavor. Like seeing all these raw elements and then seeing her finished product, it was like, wow. You know, that is such skill to transform raw product into something. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> So when you were talking with Sophia, and I think something that she highlighted a lot was, if you can’t find the thing that best represents you just make it yourself. And I’m sure that that was fun to be able to, like, talk that process out with somebody. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> My mom in a previous life was a clothing designer. She had her own line here in Oakland. And so growing up, my mom very much made it a point to expose me to that process. So we’d go to buy fabric together. She’d let me pick out patterns. She taught me how to use, like, professional machines. I just, I’m not a patient person. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Laughs]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Same. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I, you know, like, I can’t make a garment myself, but I can help my mom do it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, being in Sophia’s studio was just bringing back all of those lessons for me, that my mom taught me. You know, like, how much time goes into garments. And so, I think that’s why for me too, in general, like I can’t just buy something knowing I’m only going to wear it a few times. Like I’m very conscious. Like, if I buy something, I have to be sure that I’m going to keep this for years. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m gonna get some good use out of this, otherwise I spent my money for nothing, which is the conversation I always have with myself. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah, it really brought into focus like I want to invest in pants that are going to be my “all the time” pants. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Especially with thinking about someone like Sophia and Jessica Cotrim, who’s our floral designer, who we talked about in the third episode of the series, Jessica, she talks about designing her bouquets and her arrangements with her brain, and her heart, and her intuition. So let’s talk about how at least when it comes to that element of adornment, especially our home adornment, how intuition, what our gut tells us might actually be the key to doing the right thing. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That’s what I really appreciated about Jessica is that she was very vocal about like, ‘a lot of what goes into my designing is my ancestral intuition.’ I’m spiritual myself, and I do feel like I’ve relied on my intuition to make life decisions. You know, knowing that that’s a big part of my identity but right now in this, like, funk period where it’s like, I don’t feel connected. I was like, How can I feel that again? And for Jessica, it’s really like tapping into nature and florals and how different flowers are associated to the different women in her life, her grandmother’s and all of that knowledge that comes through that. I saw myself in that like, yes, that’s what I used to feel. So like, I want to see somebody else do that in real time and, and kind of remind myself, like, what it is to tap into that intuition again\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">to watch how Jessica puts things together, to watch you put together a bouquet with her was so exciting because you could really see that moment happen where it’s like, Oh, they’re being guided by something we can’t see and it’s not a sketchbook. It’s not, you know, some app that we find on our computer where we can put things together and it just tells us, like the algorithm didn’t tell you how to put it together. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, the algorithm.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You just knew. And so if you can maybe even share a little bit about how you knew that the flowers you put into your bouquet that you called sorbet, how did you know? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mm hmm. How did I know? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> How did you know? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I mean, I was really listening to what Jessica was telling me in that interview was you got to go with what strikes emotion, what strikes joy? And she had buckets of flowers. And, you know, I think I could have gone for the really big sunflowers that she had because those are so striking but I went for more smaller, more, like, softer flowers because I felt like that’s what I was needing in that moment. More intimate energy in my space. And so I picked these, like, really moody dahlias, a deep, like, plum purple. And I guess, too, I was thinking about what flowers I associate with the women in my lineage. And so my tía who I am very, very close to, and I typically buy flowers for her gravesite here in South San Francisco. I try to buy her irises or anything purple. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh nice\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I just really associate that color with her. And so I think when I saw these flower options and there was like this dark purple, it was like calling to me because that’s what I knew, you know, like when I go out to flower stores, I gravitate to purple because I know that’s the color, she liked, my tía. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/i> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> [Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You chose today to wear the earrings that you designed with Miss Chelsea Macalino-Calalay, again, the founder of the Wyphys jewelry brand. What is it like to be this Hyphy Wyphys out into the world adorning yourself with an original piece that was created in this studio that we’re in? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh, my God. Am I an influencer? No. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Laughs] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It just feels so good knowing all the love and joy that she I watched her put into the dangly earring that I’m wearing. Like, wearing this I feel really proud. Like, I don’t know, I guess you could compare it to, like, wearing a crown or something. You know, it’s kind of like you’re presenting yourself to the world. Like, look at this. But for me, that’s earrings, because this really rad artist made them. I feel like I have this support network because a lot of her brand is about, like, her friends, her queer femmes and the community she comes from. And so wearing this product, it feels like there is this larger network that I’m now like part of, you know. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> This Wyphys community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Something that we haven’t had a chance to really talk about is that every single person who’s a part of this Adorned series, which all the episodes are out now, so I hope folks get a chance to listen to them, is that everybody reps San Francisco in the Bay Area so hard, which I love. And I’m curious for you who isn’t necessarily a San Francisco native, but I feel also reps this, the Bay Area very strongly. How did that all feel, knowing that you talk about being a part of this community, that now the Bay Area is your community and that you are adorning yourself to go out into the Bay Area community to be one in the same as the residents that we talked to? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mmm, yeah, I think I come from it from a deep place of like awe and admiration for Frisco aesthetics. For example, I really think of like clean \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.derbysf.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwuZGnBhD1ARIsACxbAVhYN2vdsZlkZs9DPATTD0uHhLYsNkxYANJpmMFMB4XVJpKx-8eEKzMaAujVEALw_wcB\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Derby\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> jackets. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I love that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I think of \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://bendavis.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ben Davis\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> jackets and shirts. And my grandfather who lived here had like, he didn’t have a Derby jacket himself, but he had a jacket that looked like it. And I remember the first time I got my own Derby jacket, like eight years ago. And I just I just remember feeling so much pride, like I have a good jacket and he would be very proud of that. And so for me, being able to talk to other creatives who are so proud of being from this soil, it kind of like was my homage to this city and how I just have so much deep reverence for artists who grew up here and are making art that is striving to, like, keep that funky, that goofy energy alive here in this city. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">started this conversation with you talking about the reason for the journey and how you know yourself to be funky and goofy and you want to come back into that skin. So where are you in that journey to get back into that skin? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Y’all, I’m a new person. I’m changed. I had a glow up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Epiphany, ah-ha moments aplenty. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But I do honestly feel a lot more curious, and open minded, and positive. But really, I’m on this journey to like myself again, and I think I feel like I’m enjoying my own company again. I’m enjoying just looking at myself. I know that, I don’t know if that sounds vain, but like…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No, not at all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think there was a deep period where I was just like ‘ugh’ every time I caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror, I was like, I don’t know who that person is right now. I just felt very estranged, I guess is the best way to put it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’re our biggest critics. We always have been and we always will be. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> True\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I think this adornment series, like I do feel like it was successful in that I’m feeling fun again. I feel like I’m liking myself again. It doesn’t feel like an end, like.. Tada!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Tada it’s over!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But I can honestly say I feel so much more embodied in myself and in my skin than when I started this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nice. I’m going to stand in for our listener and say, Marisol, based off the takeaways that you’ve been able to gather from having done this series, what are some pieces of advice that you would share with me? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think…What would your inner child… What would make your inner child happy? And I think, like, I’m going back to having a lot of colors in my wardrobe because that’s what younger me would make me happy. I think I had that– this, like, moment of like, oh, to prove I’m grown and mature, I’m just going to wear like, dark colors, which don’t get me wrong, goth is chic. I love black outfits, but like, it’s also really nice to feel excited and I think colors make me feel excited. And so in trying to adorn myself I’m thinking about, like, What would feed my inner child? What would my inner child want to see in an adult. Like, oh, that it’s okay to like, be funky and be groovy, not so serious all the time. And so I guess my advice to other people is to think about, like, what would feed your inner child? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> All four episodes are out of the Adorned series featuring perfumer, Maurico Garcia, clothing designer and clothing maker Sophia Mitty, floral designer Jessica Cotrim and jewelry maker and the founder of Wyphys, Chelsea Macalino Calalay. Marisol, this has been so much fun and I’m so grateful to you that you invited me to be a part of this adornment journey with you by going to some of these different places. And yeah, just to be a witness to all the change that you’ve experienced, that we’ve experienced through you, and all that experiences that are yet to come. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mmm. Thank you for being on this journey with me, Xorje. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yay! High five.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> High five. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[laughs]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This Rightnowish series, “Adorned” was produced by the fabulous Xorje Olivares and hosted by me, Marisol Medina Cadena. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chris Hambrick is our wicked cool editor. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Christopher Beale is our amazing engineer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the Rightnowish team also includes Pendarvis Harshaw, Sheree Bishop, and Ryce Stoughtenborough. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We get additional support from Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña, and Holly Kernan.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Again, thanks much for listening to my adornment journey. 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So I’m excited because Marisol is with me here in studio as we talk about these past few weeks, what they’ve looked like for her especially as the person who’s trying to figure out what adornment is. And we’ll get into all of that right after the break\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, Marisol, I’m excited for us to break this all down together. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hey, Xorje! Me, too! Let’s get into it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Before we get into the specifics of each of these different episodes, we’ve had a chance to talk about this a little bit before but why center adornment? Because it’s funny. It’s a word that we don’t use quite often in our daily conversation, but it’s something that we’re mindful of at all times, as just like humans operating in this world. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Three out of the four guests for this Adorned series were all creatives, business owners that I’ve just been a fan of for the last like three years. And I wanted to, like, dive into their crafts, whether it be floristry, jewelry making, or clothing design, because those are art forms that we haven’t really had on the show before. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so I was like, what is like the common throughline here? And it’s the way we adorn ourselves, our spaces. It’s that intentional decoration, if you will. For me, I think a lot of people might think “adorned” as luxury. But I’m trying to reframe adorned I think to just talk about those intimate actions. They don’t have to be very elaborate or evolved for it to make us feel special, for it to make us feel alive. And I think in my own day to day life, I’m very clumsy. I just feel rushed all the time. I don’t always give myself that space and slowness to like, adorn myself, really.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mhmm\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I love watching my homegirls get ready or even my own mother get ready. That’s just such a beautiful ritual I love watching other people do, but I feel like I’ve never known how to really do that for myself. And so I kind of wanted to push myself to like, I could have that for myself as well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You’ve been very explicit in saying to our audience members that you are on this journey, you’re feeling a little funky with yourself, you don’t quite know where to place yourself, and that’s part of the reason that motivated you to, to pursue this series. So we walk alongside you as you experience these elements of adornment. So with Mauricio Garcia, first episode we did in the series, you’re smelling some of his original perfumes, and then later on in the series, you are going through the racks of Sophia Mitty’s clothes. You’re having Chelsea Macalino-Calalay make you a piece of jewelry. You are doing all of this in real time. So what was it like, we’ll start with Mauricio, to just have that experience caught on tape? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mauricio, for example, he brought not only the finished perfumes, but like the individual fragrances that go into the perfume. And so it was this whole ritual, like where he had me smell the individual ingredients and guess them before he showed me the finished product. And so it was like he was getting me in this state of mind to just like, really slow down and really use all of my senses. I think it affected me like, I really think since that episode, I’ve been trying to be a lot more mindful and methodical as I’m prepping myself for the day. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Again, I’m using this word “ritual” interchangeably with adornment, because I am… I’m, I really saw how these different creatives use their craft as a ritual, right? It’s not something you could just whip out, bada bing bada boom. It’s like there is intention behind it, process. It’s… it’s something that just is a product of intention and reflection.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Most of what we think about with adornment is clothing, and that’s Sophia’s specialty. So let’s talk about the chance that you had to go into her studio called The Stu. It’s in South San Francisco. And just see a variety of clothes that maybe you did see for yourself or maybe you didn’t see for yourself or can now see for yourself. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah. Okay. So, Sophia Mitty, for folks who haven’t listened to that episode yet, she makes colorful utility pants. I’m talking like straight leg pants with deep pockets. These are pants construction workers wear, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mhmm. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And I think for me, I really, again, wanted to avoid this idea of, like, people’s natural assumptions that clothing always has to be luxurious. And so I think she was kind of this perfect fit where it’s like she’s doing clothing, but it’s not like this high end fashion that we can’t necessarily wear on our everyday lives. It’s very utilitarian. And I think that really resonated with me because I love practical things, but like… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Laughs] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Don’t we all! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But I want my practical things to have character, to have flavor. Like seeing all these raw elements and then seeing her finished product, it was like, wow. You know, that is such skill to transform raw product into something. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> So when you were talking with Sophia, and I think something that she highlighted a lot was, if you can’t find the thing that best represents you just make it yourself. And I’m sure that that was fun to be able to, like, talk that process out with somebody. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> My mom in a previous life was a clothing designer. She had her own line here in Oakland. And so growing up, my mom very much made it a point to expose me to that process. So we’d go to buy fabric together. She’d let me pick out patterns. She taught me how to use, like, professional machines. I just, I’m not a patient person. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Laughs]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Same. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I, you know, like, I can’t make a garment myself, but I can help my mom do it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, being in Sophia’s studio was just bringing back all of those lessons for me, that my mom taught me. You know, like, how much time goes into garments. And so, I think that’s why for me too, in general, like I can’t just buy something knowing I’m only going to wear it a few times. Like I’m very conscious. 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So let’s talk about how at least when it comes to that element of adornment, especially our home adornment, how intuition, what our gut tells us might actually be the key to doing the right thing. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That’s what I really appreciated about Jessica is that she was very vocal about like, ‘a lot of what goes into my designing is my ancestral intuition.’ I’m spiritual myself, and I do feel like I’ve relied on my intuition to make life decisions. You know, knowing that that’s a big part of my identity but right now in this, like, funk period where it’s like, I don’t feel connected. I was like, How can I feel that again? And for Jessica, it’s really like tapping into nature and florals and how different flowers are associated to the different women in her life, her grandmother’s and all of that knowledge that comes through that. I saw myself in that like, yes, that’s what I used to feel. So like, I want to see somebody else do that in real time and, and kind of remind myself, like, what it is to tap into that intuition again\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">to watch how Jessica puts things together, to watch you put together a bouquet with her was so exciting because you could really see that moment happen where it’s like, Oh, they’re being guided by something we can’t see and it’s not a sketchbook. It’s not, you know, some app that we find on our computer where we can put things together and it just tells us, like the algorithm didn’t tell you how to put it together. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, the algorithm.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You just knew. And so if you can maybe even share a little bit about how you knew that the flowers you put into your bouquet that you called sorbet, how did you know? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mm hmm. How did I know? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> How did you know? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I mean, I was really listening to what Jessica was telling me in that interview was you got to go with what strikes emotion, what strikes joy? And she had buckets of flowers. And, you know, I think I could have gone for the really big sunflowers that she had because those are so striking but I went for more smaller, more, like, softer flowers because I felt like that’s what I was needing in that moment. More intimate energy in my space. And so I picked these, like, really moody dahlias, a deep, like, plum purple. And I guess, too, I was thinking about what flowers I associate with the women in my lineage. And so my tía who I am very, very close to, and I typically buy flowers for her gravesite here in South San Francisco. I try to buy her irises or anything purple. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh nice\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I just really associate that color with her. And so I think when I saw these flower options and there was like this dark purple, it was like calling to me because that’s what I knew, you know, like when I go out to flower stores, I gravitate to purple because I know that’s the color, she liked, my tía. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/i> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> [Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You chose today to wear the earrings that you designed with Miss Chelsea Macalino-Calalay, again, the founder of the Wyphys jewelry brand. What is it like to be this Hyphy Wyphys out into the world adorning yourself with an original piece that was created in this studio that we’re in? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh, my God. Am I an influencer? No. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Laughs] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It just feels so good knowing all the love and joy that she I watched her put into the dangly earring that I’m wearing. Like, wearing this I feel really proud. Like, I don’t know, I guess you could compare it to, like, wearing a crown or something. You know, it’s kind of like you’re presenting yourself to the world. Like, look at this. But for me, that’s earrings, because this really rad artist made them. I feel like I have this support network because a lot of her brand is about, like, her friends, her queer femmes and the community she comes from. And so wearing this product, it feels like there is this larger network that I’m now like part of, you know. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> This Wyphys community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Something that we haven’t had a chance to really talk about is that every single person who’s a part of this Adorned series, which all the episodes are out now, so I hope folks get a chance to listen to them, is that everybody reps San Francisco in the Bay Area so hard, which I love. And I’m curious for you who isn’t necessarily a San Francisco native, but I feel also reps this, the Bay Area very strongly. How did that all feel, knowing that you talk about being a part of this community, that now the Bay Area is your community and that you are adorning yourself to go out into the Bay Area community to be one in the same as the residents that we talked to? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mmm, yeah, I think I come from it from a deep place of like awe and admiration for Frisco aesthetics. For example, I really think of like clean \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.derbysf.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwuZGnBhD1ARIsACxbAVhYN2vdsZlkZs9DPATTD0uHhLYsNkxYANJpmMFMB4XVJpKx-8eEKzMaAujVEALw_wcB\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Derby\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> jackets. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I love that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I think of \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://bendavis.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ben Davis\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> jackets and shirts. And my grandfather who lived here had like, he didn’t have a Derby jacket himself, but he had a jacket that looked like it. And I remember the first time I got my own Derby jacket, like eight years ago. And I just I just remember feeling so much pride, like I have a good jacket and he would be very proud of that. And so for me, being able to talk to other creatives who are so proud of being from this soil, it kind of like was my homage to this city and how I just have so much deep reverence for artists who grew up here and are making art that is striving to, like, keep that funky, that goofy energy alive here in this city. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">started this conversation with you talking about the reason for the journey and how you know yourself to be funky and goofy and you want to come back into that skin. So where are you in that journey to get back into that skin? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Y’all, I’m a new person. I’m changed. I had a glow up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Epiphany, ah-ha moments aplenty. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But I do honestly feel a lot more curious, and open minded, and positive. But really, I’m on this journey to like myself again, and I think I feel like I’m enjoying my own company again. I’m enjoying just looking at myself. I know that, I don’t know if that sounds vain, but like…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No, not at all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think there was a deep period where I was just like ‘ugh’ every time I caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror, I was like, I don’t know who that person is right now. I just felt very estranged, I guess is the best way to put it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’re our biggest critics. We always have been and we always will be. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> True\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I think this adornment series, like I do feel like it was successful in that I’m feeling fun again. I feel like I’m liking myself again. It doesn’t feel like an end, like.. Tada!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Tada it’s over!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But I can honestly say I feel so much more embodied in myself and in my skin than when I started this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nice. I’m going to stand in for our listener and say, Marisol, based off the takeaways that you’ve been able to gather from having done this series, what are some pieces of advice that you would share with me? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think…What would your inner child… What would make your inner child happy? And I think, like, I’m going back to having a lot of colors in my wardrobe because that’s what younger me would make me happy. I think I had that– this, like, moment of like, oh, to prove I’m grown and mature, I’m just going to wear like, dark colors, which don’t get me wrong, goth is chic. I love black outfits, but like, it’s also really nice to feel excited and I think colors make me feel excited. And so in trying to adorn myself I’m thinking about, like, What would feed my inner child? What would my inner child want to see in an adult. Like, oh, that it’s okay to like, be funky and be groovy, not so serious all the time. And so I guess my advice to other people is to think about, like, what would feed your inner child? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> All four episodes are out of the Adorned series featuring perfumer, Maurico Garcia, clothing designer and clothing maker Sophia Mitty, floral designer Jessica Cotrim and jewelry maker and the founder of Wyphys, Chelsea Macalino Calalay. Marisol, this has been so much fun and I’m so grateful to you that you invited me to be a part of this adornment journey with you by going to some of these different places. And yeah, just to be a witness to all the change that you’ve experienced, that we’ve experienced through you, and all that experiences that are yet to come. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mmm. Thank you for being on this journey with me, Xorje. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Xorje Olivares:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yay! High five.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> High five. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[laughs]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This Rightnowish series, “Adorned” was produced by the fabulous Xorje Olivares and hosted by me, Marisol Medina Cadena. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chris Hambrick is our wicked cool editor. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Christopher Beale is our amazing engineer. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the Rightnowish team also includes Pendarvis Harshaw, Sheree Bishop, and Ryce Stoughtenborough. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We get additional support from Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña, and Holly Kernan.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Again, thanks much for listening to my adornment journey. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jewelry designer and brand creator of \u003ca href=\"https://wyphys.com/\">Wyphys\u003c/a>, Chelsea Macalino-Calalay exudes fierceness, but also serenity. Rocking bleached brows that match her shag-mullet, a crystal blue gem on her canine tooth, delicate rings, and a gold heart pendant choker, that was inherited from her auntie, Macalino-Calalay’s style is all encompassing. If her style and brand aesthetic was personified in a doll, it’d be more akin to Bratz then Barbie, because her custom jewelry pieces are about making statements, not meant to take the backseat to the wardrobe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Macalino-Calalay cites her strong sense of style to her fashion-forward family. She tells me that her grandparents who migrated from the Philippines to San Francisco’s SOMA neighborhood in the 1970s, are some of the flyest dressers she knows. “My grandpa was like jerry-curled out with matching suits. My grandma was in platforms and baby doll dresses on the weekends.” \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[aside tag ='adorned' label= 'More From the Adorned Series' num='3']Wearing their flyest threads, Macalino-Calalay’s grandparents, aunties, and parents would go all out for church— and the afterparties that would go down in the basement of St. Patricks. (The church has been a stronghold for the Filipino community in SOMA). There, the DJ would regularly blast popular songs from the Philippines.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933866\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13933866 size-large\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-1020x1360.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-160x213.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-768x1024.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315.jpg 1512w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wyphys jewelry features gold plated pieces with spunky charms and one of a kind vintage beads. \u003ccite>(Photo by Chelsea Macalino-Calalay)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Maintaining a relationship to the homeland is also a big part of Macalino-Calalay’s craft and reflected in her Wyphys jewelry. Take her recent collection, \u003ca href=\"https://wyphys.com/ready2wear/the-palengke-collection\">Palengke\u003c/a>, named after the wet markets in the Philippines. The beaded earrings and charm necklaces pay tribute to the ingredients and foods she’d see while visiting. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One pair of \u003ca href=\"https://wyphys.com/ready2wear/p/sapin-sapin-earrings\">dangly earrings\u003c/a> is made up of peach quartz, a green glass bead, and dalmatian jasper to replicate the layered, multicolored rice cake snack sapin-sapin. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933868\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13933868 size-large\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-1020x1360.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-160x213.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-768x1024.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254.jpg 1379w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Wyphys brand is a celebration of the Filipino diaspora. \u003ccite>(Photo by Chelsea Macalino-Calalay)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Macalino-Calalay\u003c/span>’s gold plated Wyphys jewelry is colorful, spunky, and perfectly suited for all the occasions \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">— \u003c/span>stunting at the workplace, hanging with the homies, even hittin’ up the skateparks. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Macalino-Calalay\u003c/span> actually beta tests the durability of her bling by roller skating with it because as she says, she makes accessories for the “sweaty girlies” and “active people” who don’t sacrifice comfort for fashion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On this week’s episode of Rightnowish, Chelsea Macalino-Calalay talks about adornment with custom bling, the historical significance of gold for Pinoy folks, and how her Wyphys creations are a celebration of friendship, queerness and the hyphy state of mind. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC5108830999&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of sorting through beads and charms]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay, Guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jewelry making to me is like playtime. My studio’s the one place where I’m like, Don’t talk to me. Don’t call me. My phone’s on DND for the next 7 hours. I have to, like, focus and really, like, hone in all the artistry that’s calling to me right now and get it out of my body before I forget it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena, Host: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey Rightnowish listeners, welcome to another episode of our “Adorned” series. Today, we’re getting blinged out with Bay Area jewelry designer Chelsea Macalino Calalay. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Her jewelry line, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://wyphys.com/words-w-wyphys\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Wyphys\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, features gold plated chain necklaces and bracelets with bright whimsical beads and charms. These adornments are cheeky, bold, and hella cute! And also deeply inspired by her Filipino heritage. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think the part of what makes you like a good jewelry designer, though, is having a strong design aesthetic. So anyone can do what I do. But I feel like not everyone can design from the same place as I do. And I take a lot of pride in that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As a proud queer Filipina-American who grew up in San Francisco’s SOMA neighborhood, Chelsea is making waves in the accessories world with her custom jewelry. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Marisol Medina-Cadena: In this episode, Chelsea talks to me about the historical significance of gold in her community, how our jewelry can act as armor and why sometimes, you just gotta have pearls! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m your host Marisol Medina-Cadena. Stay with us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b> \u003cb>Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Well we’re going to be talking about jewelry, so why don’t we start with how you’re adorning yourself today. You’re got these fly rings, necklaces… jewelry. Let’s talk about it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thank you. So, today I’m wearing a lot of heirloom jewelry on my hands. All of the jewelry on my hands is actually given to me by my grandparents or my parents. I’m wearing my mom’s wedding band when my parents were still married. It’s flashy, it’s cute. My bangles are heirlooms from my grandpa. My necklace is from my Auntie Leah. And then I got these earrings from a local market here. I just put a charm on it from a local maker, too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And what about the waist beads you’re wearing?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh!\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My waist chain I made, actually. I made it out of freshwater pearls and some biwa pearls that are from the Philippines. I also put a bunch of vintage beads on it. Some of them are like glass beads. Some of them are just local charms that I bought from the Mission. \u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Music] \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s like you still got to have the bling be the main thing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. I think also because I grew up a little bit more on like the tomboyish side. I mean, I never compromise like the femme side of me, but I definitely find that the most comfortable versions of myself is the girl in the baggy clothes and cargos and like, sneakers. But I still want to feel cute. I still want, like, my jewelry to speak for me. And I feel like when I design, I really try to pull from that version of myself, that space in my inner child wonder and stuff. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I feel like for me, stepping out, the house is like a lot. You’re kind of stepping into a lot of energy and so, like, putting on earrings is kind of like my armor. Like I’m kind of bracing myself with this form of protection. Does it feel similar to you when you put on jewelry? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, yeah. I always find that the jewelry aspect actually takes me about 10 minutes to, like, put on because I’m sorting through different layers. But I am mostly a gold girl, and gold makes me feel powerful. Also the Philippines, like we’re really good craftsmen when it comes to gold. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I know that I absorb a lot of energy, so the jewelry makes me feel protected, safe and grounded. Um, and I try to wear, like, jewelry that reminds me of my grandma. So that always makes me feel like there’s an extra layer of protection with me. Yeah. So it makes me feel prepared for the day. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Like for me, I put the earrings on after I pick out what I wear because it’s like, complementing, but because you’re a jewelry maker is jewelry the \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">first\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> thing and then you put your clothes on around that?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It depends but sometimes when I’m super excited about something I make, I will base my entire outfit on the jewelry I just made. It’s also a way for me to beta test the design too. I’ll make, like, a pair of statement earrings based on that color palette. I’ll pull clothes from that, and then…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of traffic]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">if it’s like a nice sunny day in Oakland, I’ll take the bus downtown and just walk around, say hi to a bunch of people. Occasionally I will skate with them to see how durable they really are. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I love this image of you skating as a beta test, like you’re making jewelry for the active girlies. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mhmm!\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The sweaty girlies. The active girlies because I’m that person. I, I don’t drive, so I tend to like BMW everywhere. Bart Muni Walk.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> [laughs]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea\u003c/b> \u003cb>Macalino-Calalay\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: That’s like the running joke for Frisco kids like yeah I got a Beemer, a BMW I Bart, Muni, walked here. But yeah, I make it for the active girlies. The active people. The people who want to not compromise comfort for fashion. I love seeing people like that. It just makes me feel good. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it’s also just… I’m like, collecting pieces for inspiration. So when I see other femmes or other folks that that look like that and that embody that kind of energy, it gets me all boosted and ready to like, design some more. That’s the part that I feel like heals a part of me when I’m not feeling like myself. Just being out in community and like doing my best to show up as the best version of myself in that moment and in that space. Good community will always take you as you are, though.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although Chelsea was born here in San Francisco, she spent a good portion of her youth with her grandmother back in the Philippines. And coincidentally in a town \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">also\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> called San Francisco, located just outside of Metro Manila. It was there that she \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">absorbed\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> the culture that is reflected in her jewelry work today. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I noticed on your website where you sell a lot of your jewelry you have different collections and one is called the Palengke Collection. And in Tagalog, that means marketplace. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, “wet market.” So my recent collection is all about, like, wet markets. My love letter to wet markets. The one thing that we did regularly with my grandmother was go to the wet market, which we call \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Palengke\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of wet markets, people talking, farm animals, traffic]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But other than buying, like, your fresh food, your vegetables, all that stuff for the day at the wet market, you can also buy clothes. You can buy anything there…buy anything. And I even made some earrings that remind me of like, the cleaning materials you’d find in the Philippines. So we have what we call walis tingting and walis tambo. One is made out of like a bunch of sticks that you tie together. It’s more of like an outdoor broom. And then the other one is like an indoor broom that’s made with like coconut husk, I think, and like palm dry palm branches that are tied together. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What material did you use to replicate that? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So for the actual pile of sticks, I just took pin needles and I would arrange different colored beads and then I tied them together so that they would look like a little broomstick. And I’d hung them as a drop earring. And then for the walis tambo, I took a bunch of different beads that were semi-precious stones, everything from like aventurine to like amethyst. I linked them together and on the bottom I added a pom pom for the little brush part. So yeah, they were really fun. They’re very statement, they’re long, they’re big and they’re colorful.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of traffic, car horn, distant chatter]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I did a few different like designs. I did some that were like charm necklaces. And that one is mostly based on the color palette of what I see when you walk into the wet market, especially the areas where you’d buy agar agar, which is super common in the Philippines. We make a lot of our drinks with agar agar. We make like this sweet drink called sago’t gulaman. I actually made a necklace called Sago’t Gulaman, that was based on that drink. It’s like cola colored and it has tapioca, agar agar and brown sugar. It’s really just a sugar drink with gelatin in it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So was the necklace like brown, shades of brown?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, like Tiger’s Eye with a bunch of pearls to signify the tapioca that’s made of agar um and a few little charms thrown in there just for some flair and it was really cute. It was super fun. Being able to make charms, charm necklaces and being able to make them one of one is part of what keeps me being able to make more designs too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s also interesting to think about, like, this jewelry as a means of sharing that history of the Philippines. Like, I had no idea gold was so present and important. And so just like that information, learning through this piece of jewelry, like who would have thought. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of colonizers, pillagers would come to the Philippines to actually take gold. To occupy, and to essentially ravage a place because we were a society that really was abundant with gold. So everyone from the datus, the kings and the queens would wear gold. Countrymen would wear gold. Soldiers wore gold, even slaves and serfs wore gold. It just was a normal thing to have, and it was a way to adorn yourself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I like to design, like, almost like, in a, like, nerdy way. Like, I love to think about design concepts based around, like, history and mythology, historical events. And also just from, like, my own family and my own personal experience. I find that my peoples, my diasporic peoples, a lot of us struggle with connecting to our roots. Making jewelry has been a way for me to, like, really reconnect with that and also find a way to connect my community together. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Being that I am Filipino. I also understand that, like, not a lot of us see eye to eye. You know, a lot of us, like, have very different opinions, have very different upbringings. And that also spills towards like my own design too. My parents come from like two neighboring tribes that don’t like each other. But my parents loved each other at one point. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I even made a piece all about that, like all about how my mom comes from Pampanga. My dad is a Manilueño, but is ethnically Ilocano and historically they don’t like each other. It’s almost like forbidden love. I did it like half and half. One was like representing my dad and one was representing my mom. And in the middle there was a rose and how they come together. It was really cute. So being able to geek out and design from like that personal experience has been really cool too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: You actually started jewelry making as a young person, beading specifically because that was their way of disciplining you.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Talk to me about that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So arts and crafts has always been a part of our home but you know when my mom would get sick of me and my sister fighting, she would just sit down and make us craft together, be like, Here you go. Here is yellows and whites. You’re going to make like 17 daisy chains. And before you can get up, I need to see 17 or else you can’t go and watch TV. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I was young and like, looking for different outlets to explore crafting and jewelry making and stuff like that, I recall a lot on the daisy chains. But really, I just I like to pull from all the tools that my parents were able to like, provide for me when I was young, just allowing me to explore and play when they were together and, you know, when I had time with them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This activity that really started as something to kind of teach you to calm down and patience… now is your business\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the name of your business is Wyphys. Talk to me about the name and why that is the brand of your creations.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So I’ve been going under the moniker Hyphy Wyphy since I think I was like freshly 22 years old. I was going through a lot during that age and I just wanted to, like, rebrand. Like I, I knew that I wanted to make art for the rest of my life and I want to continue working retail. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But I also felt such ownership to the Bay Area. I felt such ownership to like San Francisco and the culture that like raised me. So when I started my business, I really wanted a way to tie it back to the moniker that really made me and my online presence who I am, but also pay tribute to my friends and my community that really shaped that that version of me. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/i> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So the W in wyphy stands for the word wifeys, but it also stands for like community, friendship. Because my friends are the backbone of my business. I am like a one woman business. But if it weren’t for my friends that showed up to my pop ups, that pull me out of bed for those days, that like check in on me to ask me about, like, what I’m doing today, I wouldn’t have the brand that I have. So yeah, we’re hyphy. It’s all about the Bay Area. It’s all about like, community and diaspora. But it’s a big thank you to my family and my friends. That’s why the name Wyphys is still intact and it just sounds cute. It’s like it’s cute, but it’s like spelled like wifey. Like you’re my girl. But also, I know you’re hyphy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And talk to me about what the aesthetic of your line is. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My jewelry really embodies that spirit of community and fun and loudness. I want it to not only compliment me, but for it to be the thing that introduces me to people. You know, I want it to be a conversation. So when I design, I design thinking for the person who, like, wants to be that and they don’t have to be like that all the time, but when you put it on, like it makes you feel that way. That to me is like, I know I’ve done my job, I’m doing it right. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So my design aesthetic, I would say, is playful. It’s fun, it’s unique and one of a kind, which is why I only like to design one of one pieces too. And honestly, it makes you feel at home. I think that’s what it is for me. Like it makes you feel like this body is mine, this autonomy is mine, and the way I want to be perceived as all under my control. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It sounds like you get a lot of pleasure and joy, satisfaction out of like seeing folks adorn themselves with… with your with your custom jewelry.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. It’s like my life is one big art show. You know, like, I get to walk down the street and see all these people who I think are so cool, who I admire and who I respect, and they’re wearing my stuff. It’s like, I don’t know, I get a little… I get a little, like, butterflies in my stomach every time I see it. It makes me feel good. Um, yeah. It’s a simple pleasure. Honestly. It makes me feel like I’m doing my job. 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However, on the days where I just feel like I need a little bit more, I just look for the lightest piece that I can move around and dance a little bit, you know, get all that funky energy out. But also the most obnoxiously, like, loud piece I have too, and I put it on. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think that my design aesthetic and how I design, I pull a lot from like just everyday life too. So being out and like, sharing space with people who I know will like, cleanse my energy, but also like with whatever I have to give. It’ll be like… it’ll be reciprocated. That feels really good. And I feel like that always grounds me back to where I need to be. And the loud jewelry, like the funky jewelry just like helps with the “faking it until you make it” part.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I know that making custom pieces is… is really big for your brand. And like, a lot of people reach out to you and you work with them and finding this, like, sweet spot of something that will, you know, celebrate themselves or fulfill their intentions. And I’m wondering if maybe we could do that together. Yeah. Knowing that, like, I’m trying to stand out and feel embodied! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I love that. Can we make something that matches your outfit? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I love that. Okay, let’s make some earrings. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chelsea takes out her tools and two plastic containers full of organized beads and charms that she’s collected over the years. Together we look for beads to compliment my funky cropped sweater, which is fuschia with cherry and gold colored swirls. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How do you feel about these? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of rustling through beads] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These are vintage glass beads from Italy, I believe 1970. I bought them at the Alameda flea market. They’ve got flowers on them, too. It’s like a cute little floral motif. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oooh.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of rustling through beads] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then I’ve got these really cool peach agate stone beads. We can do, like, a drop down effect, you know? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I love that there like\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s like a pumpkin. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Like a pumpkin. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They look like pumpkins to me, I love them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But like, soft pink pumpkin.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mhm.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. I’m definitely liking that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I also have pearls. Pearls are like the signature Wyphys thing, too. I have these really cool brown pearls that I feel like would complement this very well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol:\u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I love brown. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s like bronzy Brown, you know?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, very pretty. I have two of them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">…\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. I think we’ve got all the pieces and now we can connect them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Chelsea wraps each bead with wire and then connects all the pieces together into one dangly earring. Each bead really shimmers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s the first earring. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, my God!\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I love it. It’s like 5 beads!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They’re like chakras.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A charm of a strawberry at the end. And like the shades go from, like, red to pink to bronze to moon white to like this glass clear bead. Aww… It’s fun. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s cute. It’s unique to you too, and unique to your current outfit. Which is what makes this even more fun. I’m like, oh, it matches the outfit you’re wearing right now. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How do I look? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s cute! And it goes with your sweater really well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I feel very hyphy wyphy with these on. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m glad…you feel like you?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s good.\u003c/span>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thank you so much\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Of course. I’m so happy. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Honestly I consider the jewelry I wear as protection pieces – something that helps makes me feel grounded and supported… Like Chelsea, my jewelry is also a way to honor my \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">own\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> cultural heritage. So, its dope and affirming to see the ways we women of color rep our lineage through jewelry. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m so stoked to now have these Wyphys originals in my regular earring rotation. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Huge thanks to Chelsea Macalino-Calalay for making me such beautiful bespoke earrings. Watching you work in person was incredibly fun and fascinating!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you’d like your own custom bling, you can visit Chelsea’s brand on Instagram at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/wyphys/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Wyphys\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">…spelled w-y-p-h-y-s or go to wyphys-dot-com. You can also catch her vending at\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">the Sucka Flea Market in the Mission or purchase her bling at Mira Flores in Oakland’s Temescal neighborhood. Thanks again, Chelsea!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Time to give credit to the whole squad that makes this podcast happen. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Xorje Olivares produced this episode. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chris Hambrick is our editor. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our engineer is Christopher Beale. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Rightnowish team also includes Pendarvis Harshaw, Sheree Bishop, and Ryce Stoughtenborough. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Additional support from Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña, and Holly Kernan.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m your host Marisol Medina-Cadena. Thanks so much for listening. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Wearing their flyest threads, Macalino-Calalay’s grandparents, aunties, and parents would go all out for church— and the afterparties that would go down in the basement of St. Patricks. (The church has been a stronghold for the Filipino community in SOMA). There, the DJ would regularly blast popular songs from the Philippines.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933866\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13933866 size-large\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-1020x1360.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-160x213.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-768x1024.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2315.jpg 1512w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wyphys jewelry features gold plated pieces with spunky charms and one of a kind vintage beads. \u003ccite>(Photo by Chelsea Macalino-Calalay)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Maintaining a relationship to the homeland is also a big part of Macalino-Calalay’s craft and reflected in her Wyphys jewelry. Take her recent collection, \u003ca href=\"https://wyphys.com/ready2wear/the-palengke-collection\">Palengke\u003c/a>, named after the wet markets in the Philippines. The beaded earrings and charm necklaces pay tribute to the ingredients and foods she’d see while visiting. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One pair of \u003ca href=\"https://wyphys.com/ready2wear/p/sapin-sapin-earrings\">dangly earrings\u003c/a> is made up of peach quartz, a green glass bead, and dalmatian jasper to replicate the layered, multicolored rice cake snack sapin-sapin. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933868\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13933868 size-large\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-1020x1360.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-160x213.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-768x1024.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/IMG_2254.jpg 1379w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Wyphys brand is a celebration of the Filipino diaspora. \u003ccite>(Photo by Chelsea Macalino-Calalay)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Macalino-Calalay\u003c/span>’s gold plated Wyphys jewelry is colorful, spunky, and perfectly suited for all the occasions \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">— \u003c/span>stunting at the workplace, hanging with the homies, even hittin’ up the skateparks. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Macalino-Calalay\u003c/span> actually beta tests the durability of her bling by roller skating with it because as she says, she makes accessories for the “sweaty girlies” and “active people” who don’t sacrifice comfort for fashion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On this week’s episode of Rightnowish, Chelsea Macalino-Calalay talks about adornment with custom bling, the historical significance of gold for Pinoy folks, and how her Wyphys creations are a celebration of friendship, queerness and the hyphy state of mind. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC5108830999&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of sorting through beads and charms]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay, Guest: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jewelry making to me is like playtime. My studio’s the one place where I’m like, Don’t talk to me. Don’t call me. My phone’s on DND for the next 7 hours. I have to, like, focus and really, like, hone in all the artistry that’s calling to me right now and get it out of my body before I forget it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena, Host: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey Rightnowish listeners, welcome to another episode of our “Adorned” series. Today, we’re getting blinged out with Bay Area jewelry designer Chelsea Macalino Calalay. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Her jewelry line, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://wyphys.com/words-w-wyphys\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Wyphys\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, features gold plated chain necklaces and bracelets with bright whimsical beads and charms. These adornments are cheeky, bold, and hella cute! And also deeply inspired by her Filipino heritage. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think the part of what makes you like a good jewelry designer, though, is having a strong design aesthetic. So anyone can do what I do. But I feel like not everyone can design from the same place as I do. And I take a lot of pride in that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As a proud queer Filipina-American who grew up in San Francisco’s SOMA neighborhood, Chelsea is making waves in the accessories world with her custom jewelry. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Marisol Medina-Cadena: In this episode, Chelsea talks to me about the historical significance of gold in her community, how our jewelry can act as armor and why sometimes, you just gotta have pearls! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m your host Marisol Medina-Cadena. Stay with us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b> \u003cb>Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Well we’re going to be talking about jewelry, so why don’t we start with how you’re adorning yourself today. You’re got these fly rings, necklaces… jewelry. Let’s talk about it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thank you. So, today I’m wearing a lot of heirloom jewelry on my hands. All of the jewelry on my hands is actually given to me by my grandparents or my parents. I’m wearing my mom’s wedding band when my parents were still married. It’s flashy, it’s cute. My bangles are heirlooms from my grandpa. My necklace is from my Auntie Leah. And then I got these earrings from a local market here. I just put a charm on it from a local maker, too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And what about the waist beads you’re wearing?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh!\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My waist chain I made, actually. I made it out of freshwater pearls and some biwa pearls that are from the Philippines. I also put a bunch of vintage beads on it. Some of them are like glass beads. Some of them are just local charms that I bought from the Mission. \u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Music] \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s like you still got to have the bling be the main thing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. I think also because I grew up a little bit more on like the tomboyish side. I mean, I never compromise like the femme side of me, but I definitely find that the most comfortable versions of myself is the girl in the baggy clothes and cargos and like, sneakers. But I still want to feel cute. I still want, like, my jewelry to speak for me. And I feel like when I design, I really try to pull from that version of myself, that space in my inner child wonder and stuff. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I feel like for me, stepping out, the house is like a lot. You’re kind of stepping into a lot of energy and so, like, putting on earrings is kind of like my armor. Like I’m kind of bracing myself with this form of protection. Does it feel similar to you when you put on jewelry? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, yeah. I always find that the jewelry aspect actually takes me about 10 minutes to, like, put on because I’m sorting through different layers. But I am mostly a gold girl, and gold makes me feel powerful. Also the Philippines, like we’re really good craftsmen when it comes to gold. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I know that I absorb a lot of energy, so the jewelry makes me feel protected, safe and grounded. Um, and I try to wear, like, jewelry that reminds me of my grandma. So that always makes me feel like there’s an extra layer of protection with me. Yeah. So it makes me feel prepared for the day. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Like for me, I put the earrings on after I pick out what I wear because it’s like, complementing, but because you’re a jewelry maker is jewelry the \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">first\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> thing and then you put your clothes on around that?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It depends but sometimes when I’m super excited about something I make, I will base my entire outfit on the jewelry I just made. It’s also a way for me to beta test the design too. I’ll make, like, a pair of statement earrings based on that color palette. I’ll pull clothes from that, and then…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of traffic]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">if it’s like a nice sunny day in Oakland, I’ll take the bus downtown and just walk around, say hi to a bunch of people. Occasionally I will skate with them to see how durable they really are. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I love this image of you skating as a beta test, like you’re making jewelry for the active girlies. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mhmm!\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The sweaty girlies. The active girlies because I’m that person. I, I don’t drive, so I tend to like BMW everywhere. Bart Muni Walk.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> [laughs]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea\u003c/b> \u003cb>Macalino-Calalay\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: That’s like the running joke for Frisco kids like yeah I got a Beemer, a BMW I Bart, Muni, walked here. But yeah, I make it for the active girlies. The active people. The people who want to not compromise comfort for fashion. I love seeing people like that. It just makes me feel good. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it’s also just… I’m like, collecting pieces for inspiration. So when I see other femmes or other folks that that look like that and that embody that kind of energy, it gets me all boosted and ready to like, design some more. That’s the part that I feel like heals a part of me when I’m not feeling like myself. Just being out in community and like doing my best to show up as the best version of myself in that moment and in that space. Good community will always take you as you are, though.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although Chelsea was born here in San Francisco, she spent a good portion of her youth with her grandmother back in the Philippines. And coincidentally in a town \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">also\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> called San Francisco, located just outside of Metro Manila. It was there that she \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">absorbed\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> the culture that is reflected in her jewelry work today. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I noticed on your website where you sell a lot of your jewelry you have different collections and one is called the Palengke Collection. And in Tagalog, that means marketplace. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, “wet market.” So my recent collection is all about, like, wet markets. My love letter to wet markets. The one thing that we did regularly with my grandmother was go to the wet market, which we call \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Palengke\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of wet markets, people talking, farm animals, traffic]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But other than buying, like, your fresh food, your vegetables, all that stuff for the day at the wet market, you can also buy clothes. You can buy anything there…buy anything. And I even made some earrings that remind me of like, the cleaning materials you’d find in the Philippines. So we have what we call walis tingting and walis tambo. One is made out of like a bunch of sticks that you tie together. It’s more of like an outdoor broom. And then the other one is like an indoor broom that’s made with like coconut husk, I think, and like palm dry palm branches that are tied together. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What material did you use to replicate that? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So for the actual pile of sticks, I just took pin needles and I would arrange different colored beads and then I tied them together so that they would look like a little broomstick. And I’d hung them as a drop earring. And then for the walis tambo, I took a bunch of different beads that were semi-precious stones, everything from like aventurine to like amethyst. I linked them together and on the bottom I added a pom pom for the little brush part. So yeah, they were really fun. They’re very statement, they’re long, they’re big and they’re colorful.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of traffic, car horn, distant chatter]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I did a few different like designs. I did some that were like charm necklaces. And that one is mostly based on the color palette of what I see when you walk into the wet market, especially the areas where you’d buy agar agar, which is super common in the Philippines. We make a lot of our drinks with agar agar. We make like this sweet drink called sago’t gulaman. I actually made a necklace called Sago’t Gulaman, that was based on that drink. It’s like cola colored and it has tapioca, agar agar and brown sugar. It’s really just a sugar drink with gelatin in it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So was the necklace like brown, shades of brown?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, like Tiger’s Eye with a bunch of pearls to signify the tapioca that’s made of agar um and a few little charms thrown in there just for some flair and it was really cute. It was super fun. Being able to make charms, charm necklaces and being able to make them one of one is part of what keeps me being able to make more designs too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s also interesting to think about, like, this jewelry as a means of sharing that history of the Philippines. Like, I had no idea gold was so present and important. And so just like that information, learning through this piece of jewelry, like who would have thought. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of colonizers, pillagers would come to the Philippines to actually take gold. To occupy, and to essentially ravage a place because we were a society that really was abundant with gold. So everyone from the datus, the kings and the queens would wear gold. Countrymen would wear gold. Soldiers wore gold, even slaves and serfs wore gold. It just was a normal thing to have, and it was a way to adorn yourself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I like to design, like, almost like, in a, like, nerdy way. Like, I love to think about design concepts based around, like, history and mythology, historical events. And also just from, like, my own family and my own personal experience. I find that my peoples, my diasporic peoples, a lot of us struggle with connecting to our roots. Making jewelry has been a way for me to, like, really reconnect with that and also find a way to connect my community together. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Being that I am Filipino. I also understand that, like, not a lot of us see eye to eye. You know, a lot of us, like, have very different opinions, have very different upbringings. And that also spills towards like my own design too. My parents come from like two neighboring tribes that don’t like each other. But my parents loved each other at one point. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I even made a piece all about that, like all about how my mom comes from Pampanga. My dad is a Manilueño, but is ethnically Ilocano and historically they don’t like each other. It’s almost like forbidden love. I did it like half and half. One was like representing my dad and one was representing my mom. And in the middle there was a rose and how they come together. It was really cute. So being able to geek out and design from like that personal experience has been really cool too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: You actually started jewelry making as a young person, beading specifically because that was their way of disciplining you.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Talk to me about that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So arts and crafts has always been a part of our home but you know when my mom would get sick of me and my sister fighting, she would just sit down and make us craft together, be like, Here you go. Here is yellows and whites. You’re going to make like 17 daisy chains. And before you can get up, I need to see 17 or else you can’t go and watch TV. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I was young and like, looking for different outlets to explore crafting and jewelry making and stuff like that, I recall a lot on the daisy chains. But really, I just I like to pull from all the tools that my parents were able to like, provide for me when I was young, just allowing me to explore and play when they were together and, you know, when I had time with them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This activity that really started as something to kind of teach you to calm down and patience… now is your business\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the name of your business is Wyphys. Talk to me about the name and why that is the brand of your creations.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So I’ve been going under the moniker Hyphy Wyphy since I think I was like freshly 22 years old. I was going through a lot during that age and I just wanted to, like, rebrand. Like I, I knew that I wanted to make art for the rest of my life and I want to continue working retail. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But I also felt such ownership to the Bay Area. I felt such ownership to like San Francisco and the culture that like raised me. So when I started my business, I really wanted a way to tie it back to the moniker that really made me and my online presence who I am, but also pay tribute to my friends and my community that really shaped that that version of me. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/i> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So the W in wyphy stands for the word wifeys, but it also stands for like community, friendship. Because my friends are the backbone of my business. I am like a one woman business. But if it weren’t for my friends that showed up to my pop ups, that pull me out of bed for those days, that like check in on me to ask me about, like, what I’m doing today, I wouldn’t have the brand that I have. So yeah, we’re hyphy. It’s all about the Bay Area. It’s all about like, community and diaspora. But it’s a big thank you to my family and my friends. That’s why the name Wyphys is still intact and it just sounds cute. It’s like it’s cute, but it’s like spelled like wifey. Like you’re my girl. But also, I know you’re hyphy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And talk to me about what the aesthetic of your line is. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My jewelry really embodies that spirit of community and fun and loudness. I want it to not only compliment me, but for it to be the thing that introduces me to people. You know, I want it to be a conversation. So when I design, I design thinking for the person who, like, wants to be that and they don’t have to be like that all the time, but when you put it on, like it makes you feel that way. That to me is like, I know I’ve done my job, I’m doing it right. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So my design aesthetic, I would say, is playful. It’s fun, it’s unique and one of a kind, which is why I only like to design one of one pieces too. And honestly, it makes you feel at home. I think that’s what it is for me. Like it makes you feel like this body is mine, this autonomy is mine, and the way I want to be perceived as all under my control. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It sounds like you get a lot of pleasure and joy, satisfaction out of like seeing folks adorn themselves with… with your with your custom jewelry.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. It’s like my life is one big art show. You know, like, I get to walk down the street and see all these people who I think are so cool, who I admire and who I respect, and they’re wearing my stuff. It’s like, I don’t know, I get a little… I get a little, like, butterflies in my stomach every time I see it. It makes me feel good. Um, yeah. It’s a simple pleasure. Honestly. It makes me feel like I’m doing my job. I’m doing what my ancestors want me to do. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Do you have any advice for how I can think about jewelry as a way to, like, tap into that self-love or call in energy that just will help me feel kind of more confident? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I honestly, I struggle with those feelings, too. And on the days when I don’t feel like myself, I do find myself reverting to the ancestral jewelry that I have and the heirlooms that I have. However, on the days where I just feel like I need a little bit more, I just look for the lightest piece that I can move around and dance a little bit, you know, get all that funky energy out. But also the most obnoxiously, like, loud piece I have too, and I put it on. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think that my design aesthetic and how I design, I pull a lot from like just everyday life too. So being out and like, sharing space with people who I know will like, cleanse my energy, but also like with whatever I have to give. It’ll be like… it’ll be reciprocated. That feels really good. And I feel like that always grounds me back to where I need to be. And the loud jewelry, like the funky jewelry just like helps with the “faking it until you make it” part.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I know that making custom pieces is… is really big for your brand. And like, a lot of people reach out to you and you work with them and finding this, like, sweet spot of something that will, you know, celebrate themselves or fulfill their intentions. And I’m wondering if maybe we could do that together. Yeah. Knowing that, like, I’m trying to stand out and feel embodied! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I love that. Can we make something that matches your outfit? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I love that. Okay, let’s make some earrings. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chelsea takes out her tools and two plastic containers full of organized beads and charms that she’s collected over the years. Together we look for beads to compliment my funky cropped sweater, which is fuschia with cherry and gold colored swirls. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How do you feel about these? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of rustling through beads] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These are vintage glass beads from Italy, I believe 1970. I bought them at the Alameda flea market. They’ve got flowers on them, too. It’s like a cute little floral motif. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oooh.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of rustling through beads] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then I’ve got these really cool peach agate stone beads. We can do, like, a drop down effect, you know? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I love that there like\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s like a pumpkin. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Like a pumpkin. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They look like pumpkins to me, I love them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But like, soft pink pumpkin.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mhm.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. I’m definitely liking that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I also have pearls. Pearls are like the signature Wyphys thing, too. I have these really cool brown pearls that I feel like would complement this very well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol:\u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I love brown. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s like bronzy Brown, you know?\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, very pretty. I have two of them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">…\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay. I think we’ve got all the pieces and now we can connect them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Chelsea wraps each bead with wire and then connects all the pieces together into one dangly earring. Each bead really shimmers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s the first earring. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, my God!\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I love it. It’s like 5 beads!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They’re like chakras.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A charm of a strawberry at the end. And like the shades go from, like, red to pink to bronze to moon white to like this glass clear bead. Aww… It’s fun. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s cute. It’s unique to you too, and unique to your current outfit. Which is what makes this even more fun. I’m like, oh, it matches the outfit you’re wearing right now. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How do I look? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s cute! And it goes with your sweater really well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I feel very hyphy wyphy with these on. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m glad…you feel like you?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s good.\u003c/span>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thank you so much\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Chelsea Macalino-Calalay: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Of course. I’m so happy. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Honestly I consider the jewelry I wear as protection pieces – something that helps makes me feel grounded and supported… Like Chelsea, my jewelry is also a way to honor my \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">own\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> cultural heritage. So, its dope and affirming to see the ways we women of color rep our lineage through jewelry. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m so stoked to now have these Wyphys originals in my regular earring rotation. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Huge thanks to Chelsea Macalino-Calalay for making me such beautiful bespoke earrings. Watching you work in person was incredibly fun and fascinating!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you’d like your own custom bling, you can visit Chelsea’s brand on Instagram at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/wyphys/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Wyphys\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">…spelled w-y-p-h-y-s or go to wyphys-dot-com. You can also catch her vending at\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">the Sucka Flea Market in the Mission or purchase her bling at Mira Flores in Oakland’s Temescal neighborhood. Thanks again, Chelsea!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Time to give credit to the whole squad that makes this podcast happen. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Xorje Olivares produced this episode. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chris Hambrick is our editor. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our engineer is Christopher Beale. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Rightnowish team also includes Pendarvis Harshaw, Sheree Bishop, and Ryce Stoughtenborough. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Additional support from Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña, and Holly Kernan.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m your host Marisol Medina-Cadena. Thanks so much for listening. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The dahlia is San Francisco’s official flower and it’s also a favorite for the Excelsior raised floral designer, Jessica Alicia Cotrim. Her love for San Francisco and her neighborhood is on full display when you walk into her cozy shop, \u003ca href=\"https://www.beijaflordesigns.com/about-designer\">Beija Flor Flower Gallery\u003c/a>. Between the hanging dried roses, there’s Muni inspired artwork and pieces flaunting the 415 area code. The register table is adorned with hella stickers promoting local businesses and creatives. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Besides repping her San Francisco pride, Cotrim’s store honors her Brazilian and Salvadoran roots. When the words “beija” and “flor” are paired together in Brazilian Portuguese, it translates to hummingbird.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Cotrim says the symbolism of the hummingbird in Salvadoran and other Latino cultures represents the spirits of loved ones that have passed on. In this way, her business Beija Flor, honors her family’s lineage that shaped her craftsmanship and work ethic.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933382\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13933382 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A person with long black hair wearing a gold niners jacket and dress leans over buckets of flowers in a bright interior space. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jessica Alicia Cotrim prepares flowers for an arrangement at Beija Flor Gallery in San Francisco’s Excelsior neighborhood on July 27, 2023, a storefront and gallery with local art she owns and operates. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When creating custom bouquets, Cotrim seeks to match customers’ energy and desires with flowers and she does that by tapping into her ancestral intuition to bring forth healing floral experiences. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dahlias are really good for grounding. The solidago… is known for encouragement, good luck, and success. So if you have that around, it might help you bring in financial stability. Yellow snapdragons are symbolically known for creativity… Eucalyptus is symbolically known for purification,” Cotrim informs me as I pick out stems for my own bouquet.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933384\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13933384\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67343_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-09-BL-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67343_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-09-BL-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67343_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-09-BL-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67343_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-09-BL-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67343_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-09-BL-qut-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67343_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-09-BL-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67343_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-09-BL-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jessica Alicia Cotrim cuts eucalyptus for a bouquet. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jessica got started in the floral industry through a city job training program, known as New Door Ventures.\u003c/span>\u003cb> “\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I started working with flowers, my first job did really upscale events and deliveries. I would see how happy [flowers] would make people. But I noticed really early on that it was a very specific type of people,” recalls Cotrim. “I just felt like there was more that flowers could do for our community that wasn’t really being done. I try to make sure that my people can always afford to bring in that little luxury into their lives and into their homes.”\u003cbr>\n[aside tag ='adorned' label= 'More From the Adorned Series' num='5']\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With the high costs of running a business, Jessica’s doing what she can to promote accessibility while still paying the bills. Cotrim sells $20 bouquets at pop up events around San Francisco. At her store, clients can also create bundles ranging from $10-50. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Her flower offerings range in price. So, in addition to designing for high end weddings and banquets, s\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">he even offers delivered bouquets throughout the Bay Area starting at $70. And whenever she has leftover flowers from events, she puts out a bucket with a sign “Flowers for the Hood” offering them for free. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On this episode of Rightnowish, Jessica Alicia Cotrim talks to me about the ways flowers can promote wellness and how we can cultivate our intuition with the help of our flower friends. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC8573961372&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And if you want to mostly just like, gather them and then we can go back and, like, design them a little bit better. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ok\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. That sounds like a plan. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hey Rightnowish listeners, welcome to the third episode of Adorned. Today we’re taking time to smell the roses and make bouquets with the help of Jessica Alicia Cotrim. She’s a floral designer and the owner of Beija Flor Flower Gallery in the Excelsior neighborhood.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The Excelsior in San Francisco is just really special to me, especially seeing how much it has changed and will continue to change. Just owning this store, this studio, in the neighborhood that I grew up in, it just makes it that it was a way for me to like, hold space in my community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b> \u003cb>Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Jessica’s custom flower arrangements also help folks express their emotions. If you need flowers for your altar, or to leave at the gravesite of your loved ones, She got you. If you want to celebrate your homies new promotion by sending them a bouquet, she got you too. Or maybe you just want to buy yourself some flowers, give yourself some TLC because you deserve that! Jessica can\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">absolutely help with that\u003c/span>\u003cb>. \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Whether it’s making elaborate arrangements for weddings or small bundles for a casual customer…Jessica takes her craft seriously. She knows that flowers can truly transform one’s space and mood. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sometimes when you’re, like ,in a city setting, it’s really hard to get those moments,\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">getting out in nature,\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">unless you, like intentionally, like drive somewhere for it. So I think, like, flower shops and creating bouquets of cut flowers are like a really nice way to like, get your hands in nature and creating with nature while still being within, like, the city setting.\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this episode, Jessica talks to me about the power of adorning our spaces with colorful flowers and how creating bouquets can help our intuition blossom. I’m your host Marisol Medina-Cadena. That conversation coming up right after this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m looking at these sunflowers that you have toward the entrance of the shop. They’re really calling to me. You work with so many beautiful flowers. Do you have a favorite flower? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Growing up sunflowers were actually my favorite flowers, I actually have one tattooed on my finger [laughs] So they… they still hold the spot as like one of my favorites. But as I started working with flowers, it’s just really hard to pick one. So now I’ve developed a list of my top five favorites. So when people ask me. like what my favorite flower is, I just have to say them all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So sunflowers are still on there. Dahlias. I’m in love with, um, there’s just so many different types of dahlias, and they’re also like the official flower of San Francisco, which is the reason that I like them a lot. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then roses, but specifically light pink roses. For some reason, they just, like, bring this, like, softness to my space that I feel like I need sometimes. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Black calla lilies I love. I just think they’re, like, super unique and elegant…like a balance to remind you that like there is darkness in the world, but it’s beautiful too. And then my fifth favorite flower would be the King Protea. It just… it dries really beautifully. Yeah, it holds a lot of power. It’s kind of shaped like a crown. So it kind of reminds me of like royalty and power. So those are definitely my top five.\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Do you have suggestions for, like, places or how to use flowers in our homes to kind of bring a different mood or an energy? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think any room in the house should have flowers and can have flowers. I think that, you know, just their presence will bring like a little bit of a more, like, homier feel but somewhere near the entrance when you’re, when your guests are coming in or when you’re coming home at the end of the day, maybe having like a little table or something near your door and having an arrangement there is really special because they’re kind of like greeting you and creating like the energy for the space. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bathrooms are really popular, like having like a nice small, bud vase, usually maybe something fragrant and whatnot. and like, kitchens are also another one where people love to have flowers a lot of times like, you know, just like on a counter you have like an island or something having like, a little vase of flowers somewhere in your kitchen. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then I would say like your bedroom, like having something near your bed, maybe something a little more intentional, like looking into like the different symbolisms of flowers and having, like, eucalyptus or lavender or, like, flowers that help promote, like, rest and ease your mind at the end of the day and having that, like, near your like, your bed is definitely like, a great idea. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Why is that… that flowers, like, really have this impact on like, our mental health and and our wellness?\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The most basic reason is just that they’re really pretty to look at and they’re like the colors of them and how unique they are and how they’re such a gift from the earth. Like, they’re not trying. They’re just beautiful. And I think that people kind of pick up on that energy. And I think it subconsciously reminds people that things are just beautiful. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Buying flowers for yourself, I think that that’s like a really great thing that people can do to cheer themselves up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Aside from buckets of fresh flowers, Jessica has adorned her shop with artwork made by her friends and other local artists. There’s spray painted canvases with the city’s 415 area code and collages with the old school transfer tickets Muni used to give. The space is \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">steeped\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in San Francisco imagery, making it feel like a love letter to the city. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Jessica doesn’t just rep her Frisco roots. She hangs a Brazilian flag and one from El Salvador in the shop to celebrate her mixed identity. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, you always hear, like, people that are um born here but have family or like, first generation saying like, “no soy ni de aqui ni de alla.” When I think of myself, I think of me being from El Salvador, Brazil and San Francisco. And I feel like for me it’s like I’m split between three “no soy ni de aqui, ni de alla, ni de alla!” So I try to just bring all of it in and like, represent all of it as much as I can so that I don’t feel like I’m leaving out any of my culture and anything that I do. And so I just try to represent that everywhere. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b> \u003cb>Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Let’s talk about the name of the place, Beija Flor. I know it has layers of meaning for you. Can you tell us what’s the story behind it? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. So Beija Flor is a Portuguese word, Brazilian, Portuguese. And it basically means hummingbird. But when you take the two words apart, it also means to kiss a flower. So beija and flor and it kind of just came to me one day that it was just really powerful to me because my dad, being from Brazil and me not being as close to that side of my family as I am to my Salvadorian side. So just kind of trying to bring in that connection a little more. And just how significant like hummingbirds are overall in like Salvadorian culture, Mexican culture, Brazilian culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So yeah, definitely just the connection to like the afterlife and just like the spirit of people that aren’t here anymore is what I think of when I come across hummingbirds or when I think of hummingbirds. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b> \u003cb>Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Were flowers kind of always a part of your life? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When my grandma first came into the country in the 80s, she actually worked at a flower shop in San Francisco. She’s always told me that. So I kind of always knew that there was like a little background of, like flower shop work there. And like, when she comes in here, she’s always like, “Oh, like I used to clean the leaves and the petals or do this or that or whatever.” So there’s that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And my grandma on my dad’s side, and I think this is one of the reasons why sunflowers are my favorite flowers, is my grandma’s house in Brazil always had, like, really big, tall sunflowers in the front. She passed away a few years ago, so it’s kind of like I just associate sunflowers with her. That’s a really early memory of flowers for me. So I guess, like connections to my grandmothers a lot. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On your web site, you talk a lot about how when you’re designing floral arrangements, you also, like, tap into your ancestral intuition. And that really, like, resonated with me. And I’d love to hear you explain that or say more. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I definitely think about it in like the spiritual way of your ancestors energy being around you. So yeah I feel like sometimes when I’m choosing to put like a rose next to a dahlia or something in a specific arrangement. And I’m not really, like, thinking about it. It’s just like a flow that’s coming out of me. And it’s just, it just comes out that way. I think it’s because of the way that like I appreciate flowers and and that and just like this this wisdom that’s in me but that it’s been passed down like through like from my people and from my culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So just like a really deep lineage of creativity and diversity and ways of doing things and thinking about things. And I feel like sometimes it’s not like a conscious decision. It’s just you’re this way because of your ancestors and that’s why your work comes out that way. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Hearing you talk about your intuition, I’m realizing, like, I feel a little separate from that right now. And I’m wondering, like, do you have maybe some advice about how I could cultivate that intuition again through flowers?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One thing that I could definitely recommend is like visiting like a flower shop or, you know, looking up like local floral classes or like just being in a space where there is a variety of flowers for you to choose from and just kind of like spending your time with them or like, you know, just like admiring them and getting your hands dirty with them. So like letting yourself be attracted to different ones without not so much thinking like, oh, what will the end result be? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But just kind of like choosing flowers that are sticking out to you for, you know, for whatever reason… just be open to the fact that the decisions that you’re going to that you’re going to be making, even if you’re not thinking about the end result too much, is the right decision for you because you’re making it from a place that’s guided by like all this history.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Can we get our hands on some flowers and like, make a small bouquet together…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> If you want, we can like have you choose some and then I can tell you what the different energies that you’re putting into, like, the bouquet that you’re making and whatnot. So we could definitely do that yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I choose some flowers that I’m drawn to…Jessica says they’ll each serve a different purpose in my bouquet, so the solidago I find will be my filler flower. It’s a green stem with clusters of bushy golden flowers. My secondary flower is called a snapdragon. I pick really tall ones to give the arrangement some height. I also select some eucalyptus to add some texture. Lastly, I pick two different colored dahlias as my focal flowers, including one that’s a deep plum purple. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> the main thing you have here is the dahlias. So you’re attracted to like a very, like, elegant flower…which actually, this is funny because this was your intention, spiritual evolution. So what you’re trying to do is, like, tie in with like, your spiritual side and your intuition a little more. Dahlias are really good for, like, grounding and whatever. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The solidago, which is like the filler flower that you chose. That is known for, like, encouragement, good luck, success. So if you like, have that around, it might, like, help you bring in, like, financial stability and that kind of thing. And then the little yellow snapdragons, these are symbolically known for, like, creativity, which I think is really cool because you’re like, trying to be creative with the flowers right now. And then for the eucalyptus that we’re working with for the… the greenery, eucalyptus is symbolically known for like purification and the magical powers that is… that it has is for healing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Cool\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It sounds like what I was called to are things that I’m trying to channel. So it was like this nice….Like I put out that energy and that’s what I got back. I’m attracting it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, definitely.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mariosl Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Next, Jessica shows me how to assemble the individual stems I picked into an elegant bouquet. First, we start by removing all the leaves and petals on the lower parts of the stems ‘cause petals in the vase water ends up creating bacteria and we don’t want that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of flowers being clipped and placed inside a vase]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So then once you have that stripped, the next thing I do is to go through and look at it and just make sure that nothing on it is like dying. So, like, let’s say it was like a rose you would cut, you would pluck off all the like wilting petals and whatever, which actually also is known to help flowers last longer because you’re kind of taking away the little parts of the flower and might be spending too much energy trying to heal or bring back. So if you take off like a leaf or a petal that is dying, you’re letting the flower concentrate on like… on the good parts, and then it’ll help it, like, last a little longer because it’s not wasting energy trying to bring that back. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So once you have, like, your stems and you’re like, okay, this seems like it’s ready to work with, um, I like to start with the greens because you kind of like, create this base. So you, um, yeah, you grab your greens so that, um, you have a little, like fluff to work with. After the greenery, I will go for the filler flower next because you’re still kind of creating like this little nest where you’re going to put like the focal flowers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And since both of what we have left is dahlias. They’re both technically focal flowers, but since these are a little smaller, I would go with… in with these next. So usually I’m putting in like the larger flower last.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because it’s, like, really like the star of the show. So once you have like everything kind of shape, then, you know, like where there’s space to really show off their focal flower. So I would do the little flower, the littler dahlias first.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They’re kind of like a sunrise color, which I think is why I was drawn to them, because they really pop with the yellow snapdragons. The snapdragons, almost kind of like this highlighter yellow. But then these are more soft. And so it’s this nice play.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A little, like, sorbet, like sunset type of situation going on. And then you’re going to put it in like the darkness of the night. It’s like this whole process of the sun going down that you have going on. I love it. Yeah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Clinking sounds of flowers being arranged in a vase]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I kind of like the way like the flowers kind of hug each other. Just based on, like, where you put them. I like that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, they definitely, like, play with each other and, like, um, just kind of like, vibe off each other. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I like it, I’m happy with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It looks really beautiful. It’s definitely giving that, like, end of the day, like, all the vibes you need to get, like, a nice rest. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I love it. It’s so beautiful \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Do you ever name your bouquets?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You know, on my website, um, certain, like, arrangements have names that I’ve put just to be able to, like, recognize them. But when I’m doing, like, hand ties and stuff like that, not really. you should give it a name.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I really like what you’re saying about sorbet. I don’t know. Is it cheesy to call her sorbet? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No, I think it goes! sorbet. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sorbet, I’m really feeling the sorbet. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Dahlia sorbet? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dahlia sorbet!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. You did a great job. I love it. Thank you. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As soon as I got home, I placed the flower bouquet in a glass vase to rest on my altar. With Jessica’s guidance on changing the water every 2 days and trimming the dead leaves, my bouquet lasted me a good 10 days. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For me, putting flowers on my altar is a two fold offering, one to myself and one to my ancestors. It’s a way to tell them, I’m thinking of you. This abundance is for you and in turn is a mirror to remind myself there is beauty around me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So big, big Thank you to Jessica Alica Cotrim for having me into your space and showing me the ways of the floral world. I learned so much from you! \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you, RIghtnowish listeners, also want to learn from Jessica, she offers in person workshops on how to make your hand tied bouquets/ so be sure to follow her on instagram to stay in the loop for upcoming dates. Her handle is @beijiflorgallery \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And For those of you who want to order yourself or a loved one a bouquet for pickup or delivery you can order directly on Jessica’s website at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.beijaflordesigns.com/flwrbookingform\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">https://www.beijaflordesigns.com\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> (beija is spelled B-E-I-J-A)\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Now time to give thanks to the whole squad that makes this show possible. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Xorje Olivares produced this episode.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chris Hambrick is our editor. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our engineer is Christopher Beale. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Rightnowish team also includes Pendarvis Harshaw, Sheree Bishop, and Ryce Stoughtenborough . \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Additional support from Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña, and Holly Kernan.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m your host Marisol Medina-Cadena. 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In this way, her business Beija Flor, honors her family’s lineage that shaped her craftsmanship and work ethic.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13933382\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13933382 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A person with long black hair wearing a gold niners jacket and dress leans over buckets of flowers in a bright interior space. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/RS67351_230727-BeijaFlorGallery-16-BL-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jessica Alicia Cotrim prepares flowers for an arrangement at Beija Flor Gallery in San Francisco’s Excelsior neighborhood on July 27, 2023, a storefront and gallery with local art she owns and operates. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When creating custom bouquets, Cotrim seeks to match customers’ energy and desires with flowers and she does that by tapping into her ancestral intuition to bring forth healing floral experiences. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dahlias are really good for grounding. The solidago… is known for encouragement, good luck, and success. So if you have that around, it might help you bring in financial stability. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With the high costs of running a business, Jessica’s doing what she can to promote accessibility while still paying the bills. Cotrim sells $20 bouquets at pop up events around San Francisco. At her store, clients can also create bundles ranging from $10-50. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Her flower offerings range in price. So, in addition to designing for high end weddings and banquets, s\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">he even offers delivered bouquets throughout the Bay Area starting at $70. And whenever she has leftover flowers from events, she puts out a bucket with a sign “Flowers for the Hood” offering them for free. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On this episode of Rightnowish, Jessica Alicia Cotrim talks to me about the ways flowers can promote wellness and how we can cultivate our intuition with the help of our flower friends. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC8573961372&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And if you want to mostly just like, gather them and then we can go back and, like, design them a little bit better. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ok\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. That sounds like a plan. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hey Rightnowish listeners, welcome to the third episode of Adorned. Today we’re taking time to smell the roses and make bouquets with the help of Jessica Alicia Cotrim. She’s a floral designer and the owner of Beija Flor Flower Gallery in the Excelsior neighborhood.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The Excelsior in San Francisco is just really special to me, especially seeing how much it has changed and will continue to change. Just owning this store, this studio, in the neighborhood that I grew up in, it just makes it that it was a way for me to like, hold space in my community. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b> \u003cb>Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Jessica’s custom flower arrangements also help folks express their emotions. If you need flowers for your altar, or to leave at the gravesite of your loved ones, She got you. If you want to celebrate your homies new promotion by sending them a bouquet, she got you too. Or maybe you just want to buy yourself some flowers, give yourself some TLC because you deserve that! Jessica can\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">absolutely help with that\u003c/span>\u003cb>. \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Whether it’s making elaborate arrangements for weddings or small bundles for a casual customer…Jessica takes her craft seriously. She knows that flowers can truly transform one’s space and mood. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sometimes when you’re, like ,in a city setting, it’s really hard to get those moments,\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">getting out in nature,\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">unless you, like intentionally, like drive somewhere for it. So I think, like, flower shops and creating bouquets of cut flowers are like a really nice way to like, get your hands in nature and creating with nature while still being within, like, the city setting.\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this episode, Jessica talks to me about the power of adorning our spaces with colorful flowers and how creating bouquets can help our intuition blossom. I’m your host Marisol Medina-Cadena. That conversation coming up right after this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m looking at these sunflowers that you have toward the entrance of the shop. They’re really calling to me. You work with so many beautiful flowers. Do you have a favorite flower? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Growing up sunflowers were actually my favorite flowers, I actually have one tattooed on my finger [laughs] So they… they still hold the spot as like one of my favorites. But as I started working with flowers, it’s just really hard to pick one. So now I’ve developed a list of my top five favorites. So when people ask me. like what my favorite flower is, I just have to say them all. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So sunflowers are still on there. Dahlias. I’m in love with, um, there’s just so many different types of dahlias, and they’re also like the official flower of San Francisco, which is the reason that I like them a lot. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then roses, but specifically light pink roses. For some reason, they just, like, bring this, like, softness to my space that I feel like I need sometimes. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Black calla lilies I love. I just think they’re, like, super unique and elegant…like a balance to remind you that like there is darkness in the world, but it’s beautiful too. And then my fifth favorite flower would be the King Protea. It just… it dries really beautifully. Yeah, it holds a lot of power. It’s kind of shaped like a crown. So it kind of reminds me of like royalty and power. So those are definitely my top five.\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Do you have suggestions for, like, places or how to use flowers in our homes to kind of bring a different mood or an energy? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think any room in the house should have flowers and can have flowers. I think that, you know, just their presence will bring like a little bit of a more, like, homier feel but somewhere near the entrance when you’re, when your guests are coming in or when you’re coming home at the end of the day, maybe having like a little table or something near your door and having an arrangement there is really special because they’re kind of like greeting you and creating like the energy for the space. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bathrooms are really popular, like having like a nice small, bud vase, usually maybe something fragrant and whatnot. and like, kitchens are also another one where people love to have flowers a lot of times like, you know, just like on a counter you have like an island or something having like, a little vase of flowers somewhere in your kitchen. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And then I would say like your bedroom, like having something near your bed, maybe something a little more intentional, like looking into like the different symbolisms of flowers and having, like, eucalyptus or lavender or, like, flowers that help promote, like, rest and ease your mind at the end of the day and having that, like, near your like, your bed is definitely like, a great idea. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Why is that… that flowers, like, really have this impact on like, our mental health and and our wellness?\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The most basic reason is just that they’re really pretty to look at and they’re like the colors of them and how unique they are and how they’re such a gift from the earth. Like, they’re not trying. They’re just beautiful. And I think that people kind of pick up on that energy. And I think it subconsciously reminds people that things are just beautiful. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Buying flowers for yourself, I think that that’s like a really great thing that people can do to cheer themselves up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Aside from buckets of fresh flowers, Jessica has adorned her shop with artwork made by her friends and other local artists. There’s spray painted canvases with the city’s 415 area code and collages with the old school transfer tickets Muni used to give. The space is \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">steeped\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in San Francisco imagery, making it feel like a love letter to the city. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Jessica doesn’t just rep her Frisco roots. She hangs a Brazilian flag and one from El Salvador in the shop to celebrate her mixed identity. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, you always hear, like, people that are um born here but have family or like, first generation saying like, “no soy ni de aqui ni de alla.” When I think of myself, I think of me being from El Salvador, Brazil and San Francisco. And I feel like for me it’s like I’m split between three “no soy ni de aqui, ni de alla, ni de alla!” So I try to just bring all of it in and like, represent all of it as much as I can so that I don’t feel like I’m leaving out any of my culture and anything that I do. And so I just try to represent that everywhere. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b> \u003cb>Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Let’s talk about the name of the place, Beija Flor. I know it has layers of meaning for you. Can you tell us what’s the story behind it? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. So Beija Flor is a Portuguese word, Brazilian, Portuguese. And it basically means hummingbird. But when you take the two words apart, it also means to kiss a flower. So beija and flor and it kind of just came to me one day that it was just really powerful to me because my dad, being from Brazil and me not being as close to that side of my family as I am to my Salvadorian side. So just kind of trying to bring in that connection a little more. And just how significant like hummingbirds are overall in like Salvadorian culture, Mexican culture, Brazilian culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So yeah, definitely just the connection to like the afterlife and just like the spirit of people that aren’t here anymore is what I think of when I come across hummingbirds or when I think of hummingbirds. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b> \u003cb>Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Were flowers kind of always a part of your life? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When my grandma first came into the country in the 80s, she actually worked at a flower shop in San Francisco. She’s always told me that. So I kind of always knew that there was like a little background of, like flower shop work there. And like, when she comes in here, she’s always like, “Oh, like I used to clean the leaves and the petals or do this or that or whatever.” So there’s that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And my grandma on my dad’s side, and I think this is one of the reasons why sunflowers are my favorite flowers, is my grandma’s house in Brazil always had, like, really big, tall sunflowers in the front. She passed away a few years ago, so it’s kind of like I just associate sunflowers with her. That’s a really early memory of flowers for me. So I guess, like connections to my grandmothers a lot. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On your web site, you talk a lot about how when you’re designing floral arrangements, you also, like, tap into your ancestral intuition. And that really, like, resonated with me. And I’d love to hear you explain that or say more. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I definitely think about it in like the spiritual way of your ancestors energy being around you. So yeah I feel like sometimes when I’m choosing to put like a rose next to a dahlia or something in a specific arrangement. And I’m not really, like, thinking about it. It’s just like a flow that’s coming out of me. And it’s just, it just comes out that way. I think it’s because of the way that like I appreciate flowers and and that and just like this this wisdom that’s in me but that it’s been passed down like through like from my people and from my culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So just like a really deep lineage of creativity and diversity and ways of doing things and thinking about things. And I feel like sometimes it’s not like a conscious decision. It’s just you’re this way because of your ancestors and that’s why your work comes out that way. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: Hearing you talk about your intuition, I’m realizing, like, I feel a little separate from that right now. And I’m wondering, like, do you have maybe some advice about how I could cultivate that intuition again through flowers?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One thing that I could definitely recommend is like visiting like a flower shop or, you know, looking up like local floral classes or like just being in a space where there is a variety of flowers for you to choose from and just kind of like spending your time with them or like, you know, just like admiring them and getting your hands dirty with them. So like letting yourself be attracted to different ones without not so much thinking like, oh, what will the end result be? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But just kind of like choosing flowers that are sticking out to you for, you know, for whatever reason… just be open to the fact that the decisions that you’re going to that you’re going to be making, even if you’re not thinking about the end result too much, is the right decision for you because you’re making it from a place that’s guided by like all this history.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Can we get our hands on some flowers and like, make a small bouquet together…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> If you want, we can like have you choose some and then I can tell you what the different energies that you’re putting into, like, the bouquet that you’re making and whatnot. So we could definitely do that yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I choose some flowers that I’m drawn to…Jessica says they’ll each serve a different purpose in my bouquet, so the solidago I find will be my filler flower. It’s a green stem with clusters of bushy golden flowers. My secondary flower is called a snapdragon. I pick really tall ones to give the arrangement some height. I also select some eucalyptus to add some texture. Lastly, I pick two different colored dahlias as my focal flowers, including one that’s a deep plum purple. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> the main thing you have here is the dahlias. So you’re attracted to like a very, like, elegant flower…which actually, this is funny because this was your intention, spiritual evolution. So what you’re trying to do is, like, tie in with like, your spiritual side and your intuition a little more. Dahlias are really good for, like, grounding and whatever. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The solidago, which is like the filler flower that you chose. That is known for, like, encouragement, good luck, success. So if you like, have that around, it might, like, help you bring in, like, financial stability and that kind of thing. And then the little yellow snapdragons, these are symbolically known for, like, creativity, which I think is really cool because you’re like, trying to be creative with the flowers right now. And then for the eucalyptus that we’re working with for the… the greenery, eucalyptus is symbolically known for like purification and the magical powers that is… that it has is for healing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Cool\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It sounds like what I was called to are things that I’m trying to channel. So it was like this nice….Like I put out that energy and that’s what I got back. I’m attracting it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, definitely.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mariosl Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Next, Jessica shows me how to assemble the individual stems I picked into an elegant bouquet. First, we start by removing all the leaves and petals on the lower parts of the stems ‘cause petals in the vase water ends up creating bacteria and we don’t want that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[sounds of flowers being clipped and placed inside a vase]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So then once you have that stripped, the next thing I do is to go through and look at it and just make sure that nothing on it is like dying. So, like, let’s say it was like a rose you would cut, you would pluck off all the like wilting petals and whatever, which actually also is known to help flowers last longer because you’re kind of taking away the little parts of the flower and might be spending too much energy trying to heal or bring back. So if you take off like a leaf or a petal that is dying, you’re letting the flower concentrate on like… on the good parts, and then it’ll help it, like, last a little longer because it’s not wasting energy trying to bring that back. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So once you have, like, your stems and you’re like, okay, this seems like it’s ready to work with, um, I like to start with the greens because you kind of like, create this base. So you, um, yeah, you grab your greens so that, um, you have a little, like fluff to work with. After the greenery, I will go for the filler flower next because you’re still kind of creating like this little nest where you’re going to put like the focal flowers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And since both of what we have left is dahlias. They’re both technically focal flowers, but since these are a little smaller, I would go with… in with these next. So usually I’m putting in like the larger flower last.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because it’s, like, really like the star of the show. So once you have like everything kind of shape, then, you know, like where there’s space to really show off their focal flower. So I would do the little flower, the littler dahlias first.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They’re kind of like a sunrise color, which I think is why I was drawn to them, because they really pop with the yellow snapdragons. The snapdragons, almost kind of like this highlighter yellow. But then these are more soft. And so it’s this nice play.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A little, like, sorbet, like sunset type of situation going on. And then you’re going to put it in like the darkness of the night. It’s like this whole process of the sun going down that you have going on. I love it. Yeah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Clinking sounds of flowers being arranged in a vase]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I kind of like the way like the flowers kind of hug each other. Just based on, like, where you put them. I like that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, they definitely, like, play with each other and, like, um, just kind of like, vibe off each other. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I like it, I’m happy with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It looks really beautiful. It’s definitely giving that, like, end of the day, like, all the vibes you need to get, like, a nice rest. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I love it. It’s so beautiful \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Do you ever name your bouquets?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You know, on my website, um, certain, like, arrangements have names that I’ve put just to be able to, like, recognize them. But when I’m doing, like, hand ties and stuff like that, not really. you should give it a name.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I really like what you’re saying about sorbet. I don’t know. Is it cheesy to call her sorbet? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No, I think it goes! sorbet. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sorbet, I’m really feeling the sorbet. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Dahlia sorbet? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dahlia sorbet!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Cotrim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. You did a great job. I love it. Thank you. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisol Medina-Cadena: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As soon as I got home, I placed the flower bouquet in a glass vase to rest on my altar. With Jessica’s guidance on changing the water every 2 days and trimming the dead leaves, my bouquet lasted me a good 10 days. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For me, putting flowers on my altar is a two fold offering, one to myself and one to my ancestors. It’s a way to tell them, I’m thinking of you. This abundance is for you and in turn is a mirror to remind myself there is beauty around me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So big, big Thank you to Jessica Alica Cotrim for having me into your space and showing me the ways of the floral world. I learned so much from you! \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you, RIghtnowish listeners, also want to learn from Jessica, she offers in person workshops on how to make your hand tied bouquets/ so be sure to follow her on instagram to stay in the loop for upcoming dates. Her handle is @beijiflorgallery \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And For those of you who want to order yourself or a loved one a bouquet for pickup or delivery you can order directly on Jessica’s website at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.beijaflordesigns.com/flwrbookingform\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">https://www.beijaflordesigns.com\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> (beija is spelled B-E-I-J-A)\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Music]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Now time to give thanks to the whole squad that makes this show possible. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Xorje Olivares produced this episode.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Chris Hambrick is our editor. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our engineer is Christopher Beale. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Rightnowish team also includes Pendarvis Harshaw, Sheree Bishop, and Ryce Stoughtenborough . \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Additional support from Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña, and Holly Kernan.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m your host Marisol Medina-Cadena. 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"content": "\u003cp>In 2005, \u003ca style=\"color: #41a62a\" href=\"https://www.instagram.com/wellmanangela/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dr. Angela Wellman\u003c/a>, an acclaimed trombonist, founded the \u003ca href=\"https://opcclasses.squarespace.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Oakland Public Conservatory of Music\u003c/a>. For nearly 20 years, the institution has provided musical lessons for people of all backgrounds, with a specific aim at teaching young African American students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this year, Dr. Wellman earned her PhD from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. 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You also have to have really well developed knowledge and understanding of harmony and theory in order to be able to, in the moment, communicate effectively, clearly, beautifully, melodically, lyrically, rhythmically, and democratically with all of the musicians that you are playing with. 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"content": "\u003cp>After growing up in Southern California, Anwar Bey spent his formative young adult years in San Francisco. He moved to the Bay Area to live out his dream of creating video games. Then in 2021, after spending a decade in Northern California, he moved to Johannesburg, South Africa. 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My friend Zim used to run this company that she founded called Travel Noire. It was an on-site travel group experience and I signed up. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I went to Cape Town and I had a good time with the group, but when I came to Johannesburg, that’s when it really hit me that like, oh, there’s like magic here in the form of just seeing and being within an endless sea of African people that are artists, that are entrepreneurs, that are celebrating success and struggle and just evolving. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was very welcoming and I never felt as connected to any place. That trip just really solidified that the continent of Africa, as a whole, is really a place that was for me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>HARSHAW\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: How do you even go about creating these worlds and scenarios? How do you even make that up? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003cb>BEY: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve been working as a professional video game developer, focused on creating 3D characters for games and animation for the past like 15 plus years, so I’m just really deep into this kind of entertainment, science fiction stories, cinematic visuals. I think it’s a mix of that and my travels. Through my travels I see the breadth of humanity. 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I see humanity’s highs and I see humanity’s lows, and I see the in-betweens. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>HARSHAW: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you were to send a letter to back home, what message would you share with people?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003cb>BEY\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: I think that for the people that are considered Black and struggle, it’s because home is on the continent. It’s the place where you will be surrounded by people that look to you in the form of interest and intrigue, with care and love and with gentle touch. I would really invite you to come and visit. 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"content": "\u003cp>Inside of \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/mohammadnonprophet/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mohammad Gorjestani’s \u003c/a>office, there’s hella artwork. The filmmaker and co-founder of \u003ca href=\"https://evenodd.studio/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Even/Odd Studios\u003c/a> has painted collages of wrestlers from Iran mounted near photographed images of Bay Area sideshows. There’s stories embroidered on skateboard decks, family heirlooms in the form of pottery and even a tiny replica IranAir airplane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928667\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13928667 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05079-800x535.jpg\" alt=\"Mohammad Gorjestani showing one of the edited books he owns from Iran. \" width=\"800\" height=\"535\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05079-800x535.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05079-1020x682.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05079-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05079-768x513.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05079-1536x1027.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05079.jpg 1616w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mohammad Gorjestani showing one of the edited books he owns from Iran. \u003ccite>(Pendarvis Harshaw)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Books written in Farsi line the walls, and Persian carpets on the floor require you to change out of your footwear and into slippers, as is the custom in Iran.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/mohammadnonprophet/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gorjestani\u003c/a> was raised on the west side of San Jose and has lived in San Francisco for two decades, but his heart remains tied to the place he was born, Tehran, Iran.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He has childhood memories from his homeland, the last of which are from when he and his family left the country during the Iran-Iraq War. He hasn’t visited home since moving to the United States, but he has never been severed from the culture. As he soaked up all of the game the Bay Area offers, he simultaneously held true to his roots. At the same time, he grew critical of the United States; now he uses his art to question the forces that cause oppression here and abroad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13928659\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13928659\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05076-800x535.jpg\" alt=\"Mohammad Gorjestani showing some of the artwork in his office.\" width=\"800\" height=\"535\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05076-800x535.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05076-1020x682.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05076-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05076-768x513.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05076-1536x1027.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/05/dsc05076.jpg 1616w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mohammad Gorjestani showing some of the artwork in his office. \u003ccite>(Pendarvis Harshaw)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Gorjestani’s work spans from an art installation honoring the victims of \u003ca href=\"https://1800happybirthday.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">police brutality\u003c/a> to films highlighting the impacts of\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6IFfcuddM0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> post-traumatic stress\u003c/a> on former soldiers. His production company recently teamed up with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kiarostami.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kiarostami Foundation\u003c/a>, an organization named after the late Iranian filmmaker Abbas Kiarostami, to produce a children’s book inspired by Kiarostami’s film, \u003cem>Where Is the Friend’s House?\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gorjestani says that if given the chance, he’d write a letter to a version of himself that never left Iran. And in some ways, his work is the embodiment of that letter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC3261423808&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://bit.ly/3VOmqpH\">Read the transcript\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Below are lightly edited excerpts from my conversation with Mohammad Gorjestani\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>HARSHAW:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I see one of the pieces of art on your wall is a print of a wrestler. This piece, the skateboard, the sculptures. Why is it important to have these aspects of culture here? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>GORJESTANI\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: I wasn’t part of the wave of Iranians who left during the revolution. My family, my parents, we stayed. We’re more part of an unknown part of Iranian history, the Iran-Iraq war, and that was an eight year war. My parents stuck through all eight years. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">As I’ve gotten older, I’ve just realized how much I have an affinity to not just my culture, but to trying to understand who I am and where I come from. So for me, having this space is a little bit of a reclaiming of your identity, a reclaiming of your culture. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>HARSHAW: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> What’s your mission statement as a filmmaker? \u003c/span>\u003cb> \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>GORJESTANI\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: I’m trying to basically create these artifacts that when they’re left behind, someone can understand what it was like for a kid who grew up in Tehran, who has the memories I do from that war. Man, I didn’t have a bad childhood, but there was struggle with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And as you get older, you understand that you’re existing in this system and this system that’s here, that’s oppressing the people you love and the culture you love and things you love, was the same thing that caused you to leave where you’re from. 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His production company recently teamed up with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kiarostami.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kiarostami Foundation\u003c/a>, an organization named after the late Iranian filmmaker Abbas Kiarostami, to produce a children’s book inspired by Kiarostami’s film, \u003cem>Where Is the Friend’s House?\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gorjestani says that if given the chance, he’d write a letter to a version of himself that never left Iran. 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And so this location is where our ancestors, for thousands and thousands of years, held Big Head dances and ceremony,” says Valentin Lopez, chairman of the Amah Mutsun Tribal Band.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the last seven years the tribal band has organized support from the local community, religious leaders, conservation groups and nearby city councils to stand in support against the development of the Sargent Quarry project, a proposal to use the land for mining purposes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_13926062\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13926062 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/DSC05038-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A view of Juristac's grassy fields with a stream running through it and cows grazing amongst rolling hills in the distance.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/DSC05038-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/DSC05038-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/DSC05038-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/DSC05038-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/DSC05038-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/DSC05038-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/DSC05038-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Juristac’s grasslands, oak woodland, freshwater ponds and streams offer vital habitat for an array of species. \u003ccite>(Pendarvis Harshaw)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Santa Clara Board of Supervisors is currently reviewing the proposed mining project’s \u003ca href=\"https://plandev.sccgov.org/policies-programs/smara/sargent\">environmental impact report\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week we hear from Valentin Lopez , the tribal chairman of the Amah Mutsun, speak about the historical and spiritual significance of Juristac, and the movement to protect the land for the Amah Mutsun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC1911012959\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://bit.ly/3J6DGQJ\">Read the episode transcript.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Below are lightly edited excerpts of our conversation with Valentin Lopez. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003cem>Marisol: The proposed plans for this mining project include making three open-pit quarries that would extend 250 feet deep in order to remove sand and gravel from this site, for the next 30 years. 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